Well, I'm only gathering that last portion of the headline from this description of the new "The Sandman" weapon: "a highly collectible bat that smacks baseballs at the other team, stunning the living crap outta anybody dumb, slow, drunk, mute or Australian enough to get in the way."

A new site has been launched surrounding the update, with tidbits being revealed each day in the lead up to the full unveil (Feb 24). You can check out the teaser site by clicking right here.

Of course any and all other Team Fortress 2 info and media can be found on our game page.

I can see the tongue-in-cheek side to that. But hey, why stop there. Why not something that refers to black people as n*****s. Those are always funny things to put up there on the internet, right?

Seriously, tongue-in-cheek stuff like this that targets a great number of people need to stay within a small group of friends, imo. I'm all for anti-politically correctness, but implying every single Australian is "dumb, slow, drunk, mute" is just idiotic.

Hahaha. f***ing cry more you patriotic f***.

It gave me a good chuckle. Stop being so easily offended.

lol, who gives a crap.

Its widely known that you cant discriminate people based on race, but you can based on where they live, at least thats they way i work.

You dont see people crying when you call the french cowards, americans fat lazy arrogant bastards, and new zealanders sheep f***ers.

Im sure they say something similar in a southpark episode.

I'm sure it was dig aimed at the sniper (who is supposed to be Australian) more than actual Australians.

I thought it was a dig at Australia's poor internet speeds, and how if it lagged you would be a sitting duck.

If you'd like to actually discuss the update and Australia bagging

If you'd like to bag Australia, check out the latest Flight of the Conchords episode :P

but implying every single Australian is "dumb, slow, drunk, mute" is just idiotic.

They weren't applying all of those insults to Australians, they were listing classes. Slow = Heavy, drunk = Demoman, mute = Pyro, dumb = Soldier perhaps.

Also, get over it.

Yeah, if you play TF2, you understand that it's a reference to the sniper... who is Australian. They're all references to classes.

Come again? Where's the QQ?

You've got an OP reporting on something got to do with Australia, and a poster mentioning its idiocy, facts please.

Yeah, you can publicly say the french are cowards, americans are fat lazy arrogant bastards, and new zealanders are sheep f***ers. However, it still doesn't change the fact that it's a stupid thing to do, and will only make you look like an idiot.

Go away Moro

yet having a whinge over an internet forum with people known not to really give a f*** about people whinging is any less idiotic?

americans and australians throw puns at each other more then any other nations as far as i've experienced, except professional sport with us and england

Isn't the sniper's accent more South African anyway?

Pot calling the kettle black.

It's a forum. You'll find people post their opinions a lot on those things. If you don't like it, don't read the bloody comments then.

Forums don't have comments, they have posts.

i want some form of money for this horrible racial slander...

thats what black ppl say, right?

Why not something that refers to black people as n*****s.

Way to be racist you racist racism racey racist.

Maybe the title should be changed to "Moro's Opinion on Scout Details", lol.

or moro is a dickface and should stfu?

Isn't the sniper's accent more South African anyway?

valve have said hes australian and that its just a really bad attempt at an aussie accent.

or moro is a dickface and should stfu?

If I'm a "dickface" what does that make you?

ravnos is right, the sniper is an "Australian outback" as described on this page.
http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper.htm

Give up Sc00bs, you can't compete against logic like that. I mean, really.. what ARE you?

he are burned

hahahaha ouchies anyone got some burn cream for my major burn that u just burnt me with moro.

i'd say that makes me the guy calling u a dickface?

lol Exactly what I thought.

Valve stated that the voice actor of the Sniper is a Pom, and is doing a crap impersonation.

They said him being Australian is abut as believable as the Demo being a Scot, and the Medic, a German.

:S f*** u dont understand the concept of paying someone out do u...

So is your face... So is your face.

Also a few of big wigs at valve are australian.

Haha, is Moro just a troll account or something? If so, you're not living up to the genius of pumpkin_pete

thing is making a pom bung on an aussie accent fits with the comic theme of the game

Hardly should I be considered a genius, lol. No, just a simple man from QLD that reads the Ausgamers news and sometimes posts his opinion. To which the community one day said "Hey lets discuss Moro's opinion instead", sort of derailing the thread. I don't know if I should be honoured or horrified. Or maybe a bit of both.

The accent in the game is pretty cool. Not as good as the Dubbo in Halo vs imo.

You made a typo with your username and missed a letter Moro. Have a laugh at your own expense aye.

Update will be a good excuse to get back into TF2, I love zee bonking.

dumb, slow, drunk, mute or Australian

Implying that we are neither dumb,slow,drunk or mute!

His accent is really horrible, he sounds so damn British it's not funny.

While we're on the subject of whinging about things that don't matter:

In his former life as a tracker of dangerous game in the unforgiving Australian outback...

I can't think of anything I would consider 'dangerous game' in the Australia outback, can you? I mean what is he doing, sniping snakes and spiders?

A really pissed off Kangaroo which murdered his grandfather?

we do have seven of the world's deadliest snakes - and have you ever seen a four-legged land great black? It's the opposite of a great white in every way (except for the deadliness).

Cryptozoology confirms it

Seriously, tongue-in-cheek stuff like this that targets a great number of people need to stay within a small group of friends, imo. I'm all for anti-politically correctness, but implying every single Australian is "dumb, slow, drunk, mute" is just idiotic.

W...T...F...Isn't there some place you can go to whine like the same place that takes down perfectly good ads on TV because 1 brain damaged fwit found it offensive?

he is like the old lady(that every school has), that would complain, because the kids are sitting on her front fence or making too much noise.

Reading this thread, I think valve have got it wrong.

They don't need to have both dumb and Australian in that list.

I can see the tongue-in-cheek side to that. But hey, why stop there. Why not something that refers to black people as n*****s. Those are always funny things to put up there on the internet, right?

You're the n*****.

Like that Mother add, yeah I know what you mean.

But no, It wasn't intended as QQ, that's just my opinion of that. You're just going to have to live with the fact that other people may have opinions different to your own, unfortunately. I know... there there, would you like a hug?

fact that other people may have opinions different to your own

no way! i cant believe this for a second

I know... there there, would you like a hug?

hey hey, 9 posts doesnt mean u can start acting all gay and trying to make out with me

But no, It wasn't intended as QQ, that's just my opinion of that. You're just going to have to live with the fact that other people may have opinions different to your own, unfortunately.

oh okay Moro, f***face. First take a big step back and literally f*** your own face. Now I don't know what kind of troll act you have going on here but my opinion is clearly more correct than yours. So whatever you are thinking you better think again. Otherwise I'm going to have to head down there and I will rain down an ungodly f***ing firestorm upon you. You're gonna have to call the f***ing United Nations and get a binding resolution to keep me from f***ing destroying you. I am talking scorched earth motherf***er. I will f*** you up.

That guy is bads*** insane man, he will f*** you up.

just a simple man from QLD

Southern Cross tattoo wearer spotted!

Funny because we Queenslanders are the most Unaustralian Australians you can find.

Yo dawg I have a Southern Cross tattoo on my Southern Cross tatoo so I can Southern Cross tattoo on my Southern Cross tatoo

anybody dumb, slow, drunk, mute or Australian enough to get in the way."

I fit 4 of those categories and find their list highly offensive. I demand monies.

new arena and cp community maps

I can see the achievement servers filling up again once this comes out...

I can see the achievement servers filling up again once this comes out...

why bother, just use the unlocker

The Watchtower map looks alright.

Too bad I don't like the Arena_ game style ...

Maybe that's because you're an Australian hating f*****.

Ewwww @ new maps. I don't play Arena at all, sounds like a cool map though. The new CP map doesn't sound too good, tight maps are fail and really don't lend themselves to larger servers (~24 players or more).

Hopefully the new payload map will be good, badwater basin is definitely the best map in the game so far.

Big open spaces with lots of different heights and paths ftw.

Theses days I'll only play Goldrush and Badwater on a min 24 player.

Generally just Goldrush on the 32 player instaspawns unless I feel like playing Spy where insta is too hectic.

The other maps are zzzzz


WTB more cart maps pls

Theses days I'll only play Goldrush and Badwater on a min 24 player.

Generally just Goldrush on the 32 player instaspawns unless I feel like playing Spy where insta is too hectic.

The other maps are zzzzz


WTB more cart maps pls

They are releasing a new payload map this update, it's a Valve one too, be patient ;)

Come play Internode #14 rubba, Goldrush / Badwater 32 player, awesome regular crew every night and a fair few QGL players.

Not insta though, but that's a good thing :D

I do sometimes usually for spy but I get sick of the respawn wait when playing other classes.

Instant spawn is f***ing awful.

insta spawn owns, just not on 32 player goldrush =p

24 player insta spawn dustbowl is good tho

Insta Spawn makes the defense way too strong - it almost seems like there is no point killing them since they just reappear a few metres away.

Also have gotten well tired of the non payload play modes, and would like more payload maps.

Sort of like the way you tried to spell 'Midna', you dickface

go QQ

Why do you have more than one account?

Sort of like the way you tried to spell 'Midna', you dickface

I always figured it was because his surname was Midda.

Sort of like the way you tried to spell 'Midna', you dickface

go QQ

wtf are you talking about

He's just a retarded troll. Has been from the start.

wet i was curious about that too, its a WoW emoticon for crying eyes apparently

QQ was around long before wow.

Sort of like the way you tried to spell 'Midna', you dickface

go QQ

Hey f*** you f***er. Midna is the sexiest Imp you have ever laid eyes on.

The new Energy Drink is up on the site and all the achievements to go with it.

Runnin’ rings around all them molasses-slow dummies out there on the battle- field is thirsty frickin’ work. But when it comes to quenchin’ that thirst, only one thermonuclear thirst detonator packs all the “Atomic Punch” you’ll ever need. Bonk! is fulla radiation, which as we all know is pretty great for givin’ people superpowers. Just one can’ll blast ya into a few-second rush of radioactive energy so powerful you’ll be dodgin’ bullets like they ain’t even there! Note: Bonk! contains several hundred times the daily recommended allowance of sugar. After the beneficial effects of the radiation wear off, drinkers have reported experiencing feelings of lethargy that can last several seconds. Reading this sentence absolves Bonk! of any liability for killing sprees inspired by or deaths resulting from the ingestion of Bonk! Enjoy Bonk! responsibly… Or by the case!

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/images/AchievementIcons/im_bat_man.png

I'm Bat Man:

haha awsome


apparently these are the achievement descriptions

First Blood - make the first kill on the arena
First Blood pt.2 - kill 5 enemies using "First blood" bonus. (lolhuh?)
Quick Hook - kill an enemy on the Well before the round starts
A Year to Remember - kill 2004 enemies
The Cycle - kill enemy while in air, on the ground and underwater, all during one life
Closer - destroy 25 teleporters
If You Build It - destroy 25 buildings while they are being constructed
Gun Down - destroy 5 sentries using pistol only
Doctoring the Ball - Kill 3 enemies while ubered
Dodgers 1, Giants 0 - Kill heavy and get his sandwich
Stealing Home - Start capping the point as soon as it becomes possible
The Big Hurt - Cause enemy's death by stunning him
Batting the Doctor - Kill 10 fully charged medics
Beanball - Stun scout with his own ball (♥♥♥♥ YES)
Artful Dodger - Get 1000 "missed" damage during 1 life
Caught Napping - Kill 50 stunned enemies
Out of the Park - Bat the enemy so he flies 25 meters
Cap 3 points in 1 round without dying - Triple Play
Steal intel 3 times during 1 round - Triple Steal
Round Tripper - Steal intel 250 times
Belittled Beleauger - Kill the enemy carrying your intel while you are carrying theirs
- Make 1000 double jumps
- Endure 500 damage in 1 life
- Kill 100 enemies while double-jumping
- Stun 25 ubered enemies
- Die because of double-barreled shotgun's recoil (!!)
Brushback - Stun 50 capping/pushing enemies
- Stun 25 enemies for a maximum time (???)
- Kill 10 slowed down Scouts
- Kill 50 enemies by shooting them in the back with doublebarreled shotgun
Side Retired - Capture the last point
Set the Table - Start 50 succesful point captures
Block the Plate - Defend the point 100 times
No Hitter - Steal and cap intel without shooting
Race for the Pennant - Run 25 kilometers

last edited by ravn0s at 11:08:57 20/Feb/09

Its going to be completely mental with the baseball when it all unlocks.

Theres gonna be balls flying everywhere in all of the servers for a few days.

BRING ON THE NEW PAYLOAD!!!

I'm always skeptical of the class updates being that TF2 is extremely balanced already but Valve always seem to impress me.

Both new unlocks sound awesome so far :D

This energy drink could be sweet, something that springs to mind is that scouts can sometimes escape the tracking of sentries already, an extra burst of speed could allow scouts to slip past the guns with ease.

You guys think the drink is going to replace the pistol? If so, I predict 110% of people have the drink in the loadout.

Pistol is the worst weapon ever created.

last edited by CHUB at 12:02:00 20/Feb/09

According to this picture, the new map/game mode is a cart race of some kind.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/3293172347_66b9bb987a_o.jpg

Pistol is excellent.

Mid-long range its very effective on the engy and scout. I get tons of kills with it when I play those classes.

The spy's pistol is also another very underrated weapon thats way more powerful than most think.

According to this picture, the new map/game mode is a cart race of some kind.

:D:D:D

That sounds awesome!

I reckon its probably an opposite race, so they start at opposite ends and will pass each other at some stage.

Map offers interesting possibilities cause it *could* support 3 modes of play

1) 2 spawns next to each other, carts racing up the slope, only really usefull for f***around play

2) cart starts at your spawn and you have to push it up to near the enemy spawn (starts off fast but becomes a grind near the end)

3) cart starts at the enemy spawn and you have to go in and push it out (grind at the start and gets easier as you get further from their spawn)

an opposite race would be interesting but I doubt that's the way it would work, there would be no ramp up to a heightened conflict at the end of a round, the peak would be in the middle and then teeter off as they pass each other to a boring finale.

unless they both finish in the same spot ?

YOU'RE KILLING ME VALVE! New CP map + fastlane fixes (terrible map, get rid of it).

Looks like they're holding onto the new payload/gamemode as long as possible, a good sign.

interesting new community map, completely new art style. It's a very clean looking new map though, perhaps a bit too clean visually.

That egypt map just doesn't look right, the whole thing is one bright colour - like de_dust, except there were versions of dust that looked more grity and convincing.

Classes with the ability to ascend rapidly (Soldiers, Demomen, and Scouts using the new scattergun unlockable

INTERESTING

Sounds like some kinda of super recoil scattergun thats going to allow you to jump higher than a double jump with it... presumably it will stop you in your tracks and push you back when firing it normally.

i really like the look of the egypt map, whether it plays well is another story.

the actual achievement descriptions are available now too.

bonk emote now kills and you can hit people away with the bat.

Caught Napping: Kill 50 enemies from behind with the Force-A-Nature.

hmm name for the new gun?

yeah the new gun is the Force-A-Nature.

Appears to be a double barrelled shotgun. It seems that it might crit from behind, or something else from behind.

I would hope it doesn't crit from behind.

Give the spy a chance, people already look behind far too much.

It's already done (with pyro), BORING and it would be way overpowered, scouts are already raping people from behind, especially snipers.

I do sometimes feel like there should be more rewards for shooting someone in the back. I often pick backburner pyro just because of this reason. It's not overpowered because you lose your crit chance from the front, and if you run into a regular pyro front on you're usually f***ed unless you can outcircle them.

I love when two enemy backburner pyros or two enemy spies fight, they do this funny circle dance trying to get each other in the back, it's great.



last edited by thermite at 17:24:38 21/Feb/09

scout is already terribly overpowered as it is ~

then again, the number of retards playing them might be amusing for some free heavy kills - bring on natascha

Scout in the hands of a skilled player can easily turn a battle.

though most people play scout are s***.

I'd rather see the backburner totally removed... its the ultimate nube weapon.

I play with a mate alternating medic a lot and its complete rape on the cart maps, uber through and get behind the cart being pushed by a bunch of people and you'll kill most of them.

Not unusual to get 10+ kills in 1 run.

any pyro worth his salt uses the blowback on the normal flame thrower.

HAHAHHA I just read this item, haven't seen it until now. I haven't read all the threads, but you guys remember that the guys that INVENTED TEAM FORTRESS are Australian, right?

Robin Walker is still at Valve and is one of the main guys working on TF2. There's a few other Aussies there.

i think valves forgotten todays update

LOL @ Force-a-nature intro description.

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/force-a-nature.htm

If they go by the vote, we might get it first:

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/tf2_force.png

last edited by parabol at 13:37:16 24/Feb/09

New gun sounds cool.

Bring on new payload/gametype!

bring on thursday so i can play some new TF2

Its going to be completely mental with the baseball when it all unlocks.

That was a good enough reason for me vote for the force-a-nature unlock first.
When Valve do the inevitable free weekend, at least it'll take a while before the nubs get the baseball bat unlock.

apparently this is the guy the modeled the scout after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUbWjIKxrrs&feature=related

you know most nubs cheat now and get them unlocked straightaway

I want a slap chop. How easy is that. SOLD!

I want a slap chop. How easy is that. SOLD!

+1

haha slap chop for the win.

I don't know why people would cheat on unlocks. That's like buying a game and then hiring someone else to play it for you because you DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR FUN.

What if getting achievements is not something I consider fun?

I barely play tf2 more than 30mins-1hr a week now, I dont want to spend it going out of my way for achiements.

I am yet to use an unlocker but I just can't be f***ed doing the achievements now.

unlock the weapons but not the achievements?

i was blasting noobs with natascha, eating sandviches and punching ppl with my gloves last night, and i unlocked some achievements at the same time.

haha 'your gonna love my nuts'

Im not even going to bother read anything but the initial post.

less qq and more pew pew.

TF2 is the gathering of races,

and if you play TF2 with friends you have a ball.

While the idea of achievements to unlock stuff is an ok one, some of them are nigh on impossible to complete if you're playing legit on your own.

I can't get over how much the Slap Chop guy's arms and shoulders move exactly like the Scout.

While the idea of achievements to unlock stuff is an ok one, some of them are nigh on impossible to complete if you're playing legit on your own.

I get all 3 unlocks from a few hours of play... yes I still have achievements I haven't finished, but they're not needed to get the unlocks.

last edited by thermite at 17:52:01 24/Feb/09

Achievements are one of the things they need to work on. They should do it similar to the xbox games where completing a level gets you an achievement but you can only get so many (say enought for the first unlock). The rest need to be worked on.

My tf2 is now downloading a rather large update, that isn't listed on the update news. wtf?

My tf2 is now downloading a rather large update, that isn't listed on the update news. wtf?

ummm yes it is...

______________________________________________

February 24, 2009 - Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

New features


Added The Force-A-Nature, The Sandman, and Bonk!

Added 35 new Scout achievements

Added crit boosted on/off sound effects

Added new sounds for upgraded teleporters

Added new sound for a fully charged medic dying

Add bonus points section to scores

Scouts earn a bonus point for killing Medics who are actively healing a target

Added several new speech concepts, mostly hooked up to new Scout lines

Added new "Remember last weapon between lives" option to the Multiplayer Advanced dialog

Spies can now control which weapon the enemy team sees them holding. Hitting the "last disguise" key while disguised updates the disguise to show the Spy's currently held weapon

Added several new Arena mode announcer speech events.

Added "First Blood" to Arena mode

Removed 2x item respawn times in arena

Changed backstab handling to fix facestabs

Spies disguised as enemy team can now see player IDs for enemies


New maps

Added community maps: cp_egypt, arena_watchtower, and cp_junction

Updated cp_fastlane with Arttu's new version


Mapmaker requests

Added new input for forward speed modifier to FuncTrainTrain

Added TeleportToPathTrack input to func_tracktrain


Bugfixes

Fixed a bug where players would sometimes gib from non-gib damage kills

Fixed stat screen showing an entry for a class called "map."

Fixed item model panels not using team skins


- Fixed obscure bug where spectators were able to carry the flag

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2288/

Nice spy changes right there.

its live! updating now. sigh if only i didn't have work in a couple hours.

if you have the beta steam client installed, choose the gamespace server to download off as it's the fastest atm

ahhh I updated before the update was released! :P


Sadly, no payload race mode :(

Yeah, and no "Meet the..." video either... Sad :(

haha it's madness with full teams of scouts

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