I get locking threads, but I don't understand why they get removed, especially if it's because of something as trivial as a typo in the thread title. Unless the thread is full of people saying really horrible things, or people are posting s*** like tubgirl and goatse, why do they need to be removed? Can't they just be locked? What's the harm in letting people still read the thread? That's censorship on Trog's behalf.

I agree with locking threads that are in bad taste...

I don't agree with most of the nukes / locks that are done here.

woefully off topic, but examples? compared to the volume of new threads and new posts, you realise practically nothing is locked or nuked, right?

Before you answer, try to think objectively and see if you're just thinking about one or two times where one of your posts was nuked and you're mentally just stuck on that as your recollection of how crazy we are for nuking

edit: DB search tells me that of your 7151 posts, 35 have been nuked

this lock is my recent favourite : http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/thread.php/2863043

random poster : waa repost
trog: new article, new info, worthy thread
Dan: locked

Dan is a loose cannon.

I get locking threads, but I don't understand why they get removed, especially if it's because of something as trivial as a typo in the thread title. Unless the thread is full of people saying really horrible things, or people are posting s*** like tubgirl and goatse, why do they need to be removed? Can't they just be locked? What's the harm in letting people still read the thread? That's censorship on Trog's behalf.

when people use censorship when discussing things like this that are utterly trivial, then you cheapen the meaning of the word 'censorship' and make people less inclined to be aware of what REAL censorship is - ie, what the government is trying to do to you.

I honestly would rather you call me a stupid nazi f***wit than use the word censorship here.

There's no real reason they're removed that stands out. They're mostly just removed to get them the f*** out of the way. They're really not that interesting that I would want you wasting your time reading them.

The government wants to remove stuff it finds offensive.
Jokes about death is something you find offensive.

We all use QGL based on the rules of the Forum but removing material You dont approve of is Censorship. Its not illegal to make a joke about someones death.
Im sure there are many other reasons for removing threads but I just wanted to focus on this point.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT A LEASH ON THAT BADBOY

I think you're missing the whole "Private Site, Private Choice" and "Public arena, Government enforcement" comparison Faceman.

I get locking threads, but I don't understand why they get removed, especially if it's because of something as trivial as a typo in the thread title. Unless the thread is full of people saying really horrible things, or people are posting s*** like tubgirl and goatse, why do they need to be removed? Can't they just be locked? What's the harm in letting people still read the thread? That's censorship on Trog's behalf.

When I've done it, it's been because of the way the moderation system is currently set up.

At the moment, if you *NUKE* the first post in a thread, it "removes" the thread in the forum listing. with the nuke reason next to it. It's something that needs to be reworked and will hopefully get a look in when the devs get around to enhancing the forum's moderation system.

People are looking in to enhancing the way you can oppress us already!?!? GOOD LORD.

I don't think you're a stupid nazi f***wit Trog.

EDIT: 800 posts! I'm loving the insightful comment that I hit this milestone with...

Yeah, I don't agree with locking threads that are only 'bad taste'.

I think so too. Those death threads that keep getting locked probably started because of Austin Powers, you know when someone dies and they stand around making jokes? Well I suppose that's originally from Bond. The jokes don't work unless the person is dead.

Now I wanna know who the trog abused.

Can you be a Nazi without being a f***wit or stupid?

Yeah, I don't agree with locking threads that are only 'bad taste'.

I think so too. Those death threads that keep getting locked probably started because of Austin Powers, you know when someone dies and they stand around making jokes? Well I suppose that's originally from Bond. The jokes don't work unless the person is dead.

you can make jokes based on almost anything. unfortunately most of them are usually at someones expense, and inevitably someone gets insulted.

only difference here is the person who thought it was in bad taste had the power to change it :)

Don't forget either that forum owners/mods are constantly getting s*** for things posted on their sites, being told they are responsible. Such as the government getting in a huff and writing facebook not long ago over vandalism on a tribute page. There's also the problem of advertisers that might decide to distance themselves.

The government however has no stake in what they are blocking, and much of it would be foreign content so they are not doing it for Australia's image.

There has been (anecdotally) more locks and nukes lately.

Maybe there's a pie chart in the making.

Not a bad idea!

FWIW people have /always/, on every forum I've moderated or visited or whatever, thought "omg now is the WORST time for nazi admins, it was so much better back in day X". I assume this is just the natural human tendency to remember the good old days and is an interesting psychological problem worthy of further investigation by BillyH.

I've always pretty much ignored it but now I will use the powar of DATA to see what is going on. Here is a monthly summary of nukes over the last ~4 years:

http://trog.qgl.org/up/nuked-posts.jpg

Also FWIW I think you guys are taking the "mad with power" stuff way out of context here. Most of the stuff that gets locked or deleted is so utterly boring, trivial, or obviously inappropriate. It's really, really not interesting stuff and I like to think that by removing it we're helping filter the Internet to make the overall quality rise.

Does that include Spams ?
Can you overlay Co2 onto that chart ?

Definetly see a trend back up since about 06, but its meaningless without total post volume for context!

I assume this is just the natural human tendency to remember the good old days and is an interesting psychological problem

I recently started pining for my student days with loads of free time, but then I remembered I had to stickytape the same pair of shoes together for 4 years and well yeah now I'm realising the suck has been consistently high forever. :P

Over december it went down... less moderation over the xmas break? go on holidays trog!

EDIT: i'm loving how this derail hasn't been nuked/moderated or put into a new thread.

2xEDIT: OVER 800 POSTS! Woo!

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2951/53592891.png

yea, def nukes per posts needs to be the y axis

u ain't foolin me nazi

Definetly see a trend back up since about 06, but its meaningless without total post volume for context!

http://trog.qgl.org/up/nuked-posts-total.jpg (the total post count is reduced in scale cuz I'm too newb at Excel to figure out how to make the graph axis have different scales, otherwise the total post count is just massive, but it shows the overall flow accurately)

Just use nukes divided by posts to generate a QGL Nuke Index?

I assume this is just the natural human tendency to remember the good old days and is an interesting psychological problem

Yeah, this is purely people's tendency to forget bad things. I believe it's called 'the grass is always greener'.

I was only having a dig at Trog...

I just don't like Dan.

I assume this is just the natural human tendency to remember the good old days and is an interesting psychological problem

Yeah, this is purely people's tendency to forget bad things. I believe it's called 'the grass is always greener'.

maybe it's called optimism ?

I assume this is just the natural human tendency to remember the good old days and is an interesting psychological problem

Yeah, this is purely people's tendency to forget bad things. I believe it's called 'the grass is always greener'.

maybe it's called optimism ?

I would've said pessimism if anything. Surely optimism would be people thinking the current day is better than the 'old days'?

'Optimism' is temporally loaded. You can't be optimistic about the past (or the present for that matter), it only makes sense when considering potential futures.

The term you are looking for is nostalgia.

italics

are awesome

I prefer emphasis, and let the user client decide what to do

I let my Capitals do the Work for Me.

i stand corrected. apologies all around.

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