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Topic: More Left 4 Dead 2 Controversy
Steve Farrelly
Posts: 1521
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

This time though, it's not the fans who're throwing their angry weight around, but the ESRB (the US equivalent to the OFLC), who apparently kicked up a bit of a fuss over the potential cover image for Left 4 Dead 2 which actually featured the little finger and ring finger chewed off, same as the thumb.

Addressing the trivial concern, Valve simply changed the image to have those two fingers bent back - which they've humorously acknowledged here.

Ah poor Valve - all you want to do is make awesome zombie killing simulators, yet you're thwarted at every turn - don't worry though, AusGamers has your back!

For more on the game, visit our Left 4 Dead 2 game page.
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ravn0s
Posts: 7870
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thought this news post was going to be about adam sessler from g4tv having a go at the boycotters
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27199
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

A thousand gold pieces to the first person that shops the logo to make it look like its giving the finger
ctd
Posts: 7344
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
al;ready been done by those online petition guys. Good luck with all that.

http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/66/66fb15e08fd5f67cbbdf70b49034a5fbfee93ca4_full.jpg
FraktuRe
Posts: 929
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
^That's a s***ty shop though, the light is all wrong on the finger. gosh.


Also, I say we boycott all those retards who boycott l4d2.
Carson
Posts: 116
Location: Gippsland, Victoria

Don't worry Valve, I still love you and will still preorder L4D2
Jim
Posts: 9828
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it's not a shop it's an actual photo of a zombie finger

also what's with the mega valve sphincter lips on this l4d2 thing steve
Pinky
Posts: 1732
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

^That's a s***ty shop though, the light is all wrong on the finger. gosh.

They copied and rotated the ring finger, which is why the shadow is on the wrong side. Pretty simple to fix too - amateur GIMP work.
Steve Farrelly
Posts: 1523
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Because I don't disagree with what they're doing Jim - it's only a year later and it's going to offer way more than a few DLC packs for L4D1 would have... a whole new game with new settings and revamped tools just doesn't sound like a bad deal to me
Jim
Posts: 9830
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it doesn't sound like a bad deal to me either - if they'd dealt with the first game properly first
ctd
Posts: 7345
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thing that pisses me off is all these other retarded games developers like EA and Activision shove out these s***ty remakes every year and nothing is said. Like seriously we are about to see the release of COD f***ing 6. Just terrible.

l4d2 > cod6

If they merge the l4d and l4d2 content for everyone that has both and do the online thing like Relic does for DoW and CoH games + expansions I will be happy.
rubba-chikin
Posts: 6396
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If you compare it to what they've done with TF2 the L4D peeps are getting shafted hardcore.
Robbo
Posts: 9
Location: New South Wales

Anyone who is boycotting L4D2 is a spoiled f**k (to put it nicely).

You didn't pay for extra content. You payed for L4D. You got it. The developers could simply stop doing anything if they wanted to as you already have the product you paid for! But wait... Valve decides they want to release some extra content for FREE so they do (with TF2 and L4D). They are adding to the product you have already purchased at their own expense.

Now that they have done this all these spoiled kids think they are entitled to extra content. It's like buying a car and then expecting the manufacturer to come around a few months later and adding a better CD player and paint job.
Khel
Posts: 13404
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Yeah, but really, TF2 is more the exception than the rule. Even amongst other Valve games its the exception.
Obes
Posts: 7706
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Needs more EA like branding

L4D 2009
L4D 2010

RUFiO
Posts: 38
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

2 In The Pink, 1 In The Stink!
infi
Posts: 12598
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wtf rufio.
Deano
Posts: 1
Location:

I don't know why pepople are so defensive of Valve. Valve creates great games and genre defining, memorable ones at that.

That being said it doesn't give them a pass to simply drop the ball on a game and complain about fan reactions to loss in quality.

Left4Dead 1 was released incomplete and promised content that it isn't close to having. The thing that really annoys me is that the simple things that should be working properly aren't:

* Matchmaking is a joke and is random draw with no logic (connect to games with good ping and players with a similar skill level)
* Player Invitations drop out and do not arrive
* Servers time out often, even the dedicated ones
* Short campaign with no real storyline
* Lack of follow up content (maps etc) but good support for fixing exploits

Simply put: shortchanged!

As of now I for one will be boycotting the release of L4D2, but I may reconsider if the price compensates for the lack of L4D 1 content.

I'm ont spoiled or a little kid, I simply have a standard of quailty that my games should live up to :D
ravn0s
Posts: 7873
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Left4Dead 1 was released incomplete and promised content that it isn't close to having.


imo the only thing that made it incomplete was the 2 missing versus campaigns which we now have.
Python
Posts: 302
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Been a while since I've played l4d, I'd play it if they released new maps
Steve Farrelly
Posts: 1525
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

Boycotting the game won't change anything though, you'll probably just miss out the 'complete' experience you feel you didn't get with L4D1. I also hardly think this one act of releasing a sequel this early means Valve's business model has shifted to one mimicking EA or Activision...
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27203
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I'm ont spoiled or a little kid, I simply have a standard of quailty that my games should live up to :D
Discriminating gamers are few and far between; if gamers took more of a stand about not buying s*** games then we wouldn't have so goddamn many of them.

Sadly I think the brand name alone of L4D will lead to enough sales to justify their decision to do this.

All your comments are so totally accurate though; f*** the matchmaking s***s me every time I try to play the thing I feel like it's a waste of time trying to play with friends.
ctd
Posts: 7347
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just Right Click+join off steamfriends servers. Lobby's are for consoles and RTS.
Jim
Posts: 9833
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no, lobbys that work are for much more than consoles and RTS. right clicking and joining an existing game is hardly a solution to the issue being described. don't be silly
bLaZe
Posts: 57
Location: New South Wales

a) Cod6 is a properly developed sequel from the cod4 team, cod5 was the cash-in.

b) At the least you have to feel sorry for the uninformed saps who are making L4D1 the 2nd highest selling game on steam at $40us, when it is going to be free content in a few months.

c)L4D players aren't asking for a free ride, just the content they were promised when they purchased an incomplete game for full price. Valve could make this right by releasing 'L4D2' as a $20us dlc, or a discounted purchase for L4D1 owners(digital distribution makes trading-in kinda hard), or hell just release the sdk and we can make L4D3,4,5...
Jim
Posts: 9836
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The improvements they've mentioned here will be better late than never http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2599
taggs
Posts: 2663
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no Robbo, you utter moron. it's like buy a brand spankin' new car but without paint and the manufacturer promises you they will paint it in a few months to make up for this... then a year later they announce a new model of the car.

you head back down to the dealership and ask about the paint you were promised on the first car you bought, and they tell you not to worry because the new car will have paint and all kinds of great stuff... as long as you pay for it.

having said that i'm not too fussed about L4D2. I got a fair few hours out of the first one - but I'll be looking a lot more closely at L4D2 to make sure it's definately worth the money, cause I feel a little ripped after L4D1.
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