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Topic: Atari's Future
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 16948
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

CNN Money have an article speculating about Atari's future:
The Atari of old offered games and a home console – the Atari 2600 – that could be found in the living rooms of cool kids everywhere. The Atari of today is plagued by a revolving door in the executive suite and boasts a questionable line-up of upcoming games.

Fourth-quarter losses for the firm, reported earlier this week, came in at $9.1 million – better than last year's $17.3 million loss, but hardly confidence inspiring. And the comments from company executives in the conference call following the earnings announcement weren't exactly upbeat.
Interesting read.
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Midda
Posts: 489
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Poor Atari... I had no idea things were so dire for them, and I also had no idea that they were making another Matrix game. Lets hope that it's better thean Enter the Matrix was...
sLiNky
Posts: 298
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Midda, Did atari Make Enter The Matrix?!?! I enjoyed that game thoughly. It held my intrest for a week or soo.
WetWired
Posts: 1719
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
was that that week you spend trying to get the game to run, failing and then attempting to get your money back?
Hunter
Posts: 1938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hmm I once watched some doco on the inception/creation of Atari... was quite interesting.

Out of those losses, I'd really like to know exactly how much these execs are taking home... And I'd like to know if any of the execs have a f***ing clue about games/gaming. My guess is they don't and that's why they keep leaving.
typo
Posts: 4129
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Out of those losses, I'd really like to know exactly how much these execs are taking home... And I'd like to know if any of the execs have a f***ing clue about games/gaming. My guess is they don't and that's why they keep leaving.

I'd like to know if Qantas executives can fly large commercial planes.
#6 06:09pm 20/06/05
z0r
Posts: 1297
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hahaha.
the difference is qantas execs need to know how to run a cargo business, which is mainly logistics.
gaming is a creative process with a fickle audience.
#7 06:14pm 20/06/05
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 16952
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gaming is a creative process with a fickle audience. Most of gaming now is about brands and licenses. How many new titles have you played recently?! I don't remember the last original PC game I played.
#8 06:31pm 20/06/05
Bah
Posts: 1206
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Maybe they'll go bankrupt again, then someone else can buy the name and use it to sell their s***ty company.
#9 06:38pm 20/06/05
typo
Posts: 4130
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hahaha.
the difference is qantas execs need to know how to run a cargo business, which is mainly logistics.
gaming is a creative process with a fickle audience.


That's why they hire Game Designers, and Market Research personal. Besides, in creative industries the chances are the executives would have different tastes to their markets anyway.

I'm not saying that there is a lot of things wrong in the Executive circles of Atari and I don't know if they actually listen to their Designers/Research personal, or how talented they are.
#10 06:43pm 20/06/05
typo
Posts: 4131
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Most of gaming now is about brands and licenses. How many new titles have you played recently?! I don't remember the last original PC game I played.

Just because you haven't played any doesn't mean they are not out there.
#11 06:45pm 20/06/05
Tuco
Posts: 390
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Most of gaming now is about brands and licenses.dont forget graphics and blood.
#12 06:48pm 20/06/05
typo
Posts: 4133
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dont forget graphics and blood.

And don't forget complete darkness immersion.
#13 07:04pm 20/06/05
z0r
Posts: 1298
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
do you think the omg doom3 is dark joke will ever grow old?
#14 07:21pm 20/06/05
parabol
Posts: 1425
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
do you think the omg doom3 is dark joke will ever grow old?
Nah, as long as there exist people who have only watched a mate play, they'll keep retelling the joke of a game they haven't played.
#15 08:23pm 20/06/05
dark_death78
Posts: 2
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
never thought it was that funny to begin with, lol... but then again, i'm someone who's played it.

Companies don't make games like they used to. You may notice how recently they've been getting worse (i think so anyway)... but i have to say that the more recent line up is getting better, i think they've realised that Graphics won't be enough to get games sold...
#16 09:50pm 20/06/05
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Midda
Posts: 495
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Someone want to summarise typo's post? Someone should write a script or something that automatically sammarises/shortens all of typo's posts.
#20 12:30am 21/06/05
taggs
Posts: 202
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he pretty much said that hunter is wrong. seriously thats all he said.
#21 12:40am 21/06/05
Tuco
Posts: 392
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah, reading his post sure was hard...
#22 12:59am 21/06/05
sc00bs
Posts: 1568
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
any posts larger than 2 paragraphs are a no go :P
#23 01:01am 21/06/05
koopz
Posts: 5349
Location: Queensland
I'm betting they're all CS fags
#24 07:53am 21/06/05
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 16953
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just because you haven't played any doesn't mean they are not out there. Of the 106 new titles that I catalogued at E3 this year for our various games databases, 57 of them are either sequels or based on a brand. This is a biased pool in some ways, as I mostly went out of my way to add titles that seemed 'new' - for example, I didn't add a whole host of EA Sports' lineup, and it in no way represents a full list of games that were announced at E3 - but I'd be surprised if the mix wasn't at _least_ 60% brand/sequel versus 40% new titles.

Of the titles that aren't brand/sequels, 8 of these suffer from 'colonitis' - their name has a colon in it. The last year or so has truly been the Year of the Colon when it comes to games, as everyone is frantically trying to establish their brand so they can peel of a zillion sub-games later.

So, they're certainly out there, of course. But the probability that they're going to be worth playing keeps getting worse, because publishers make more money off games that are already doing the brand thing.

Case in point - Enter the Matrix by Atari. It sold like 4 million copies or something overall. I never played it, but by all reports it was a fairly terrible game - I had lots of actual serious gamers tell me it was buggy and not much fun. It didn't sell 4 million copies because it was a good game - it was market positioning of the Matrix brand (ie, just before it was destroyed by the last two movies so I guess it was more good timing :)
#25 08:48am 21/06/05
rolo_tomasi
Posts: 897
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
^^ GEE YOU ARE A SMAERT CONSUMER!!!@@ ^^
#26 09:07am 21/06/05
Tuco
Posts: 394
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the alighty ollar claims another victim.
#27 10:52am 21/06/05
dark_death78
Posts: 3
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
lol, the funny thing is that people keep buying games based on outsied opinion. Very few gamers like myself look for what they like, then buy... That is pretty much our only option now, otherwise you'd be buying a game and later thinking, why on earth did i buy this junk, and a few times of that, and people might eventually stop buying games... not good for business overall.

Companies need to pick up their game. (lol, that's a pun... isn't it?)
#28 04:50pm 21/06/05
Khel
Posts: 10035
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Thats why you buy games from EB. 7 day return guarantee for the win.
#29 04:54pm 21/06/05
Khel
Posts: 10037
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Sounds like your memory isn't so good.
#30 05:16pm 21/06/05
Midda
Posts: 499
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
eXistenZ is one of the lamest movies I've ever seen. EVAR!!! So dumb...
#31 06:14pm 21/06/05
dark_death78
Posts: 4
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
lol, EB staff were giving me a funny look when i went back about 6 times i think... i couldn't decide what game to buy :(

i never heard of that movie...
#32 07:41pm 21/06/05
fpot
Posts: 11674
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Sounds like your memory isn't so good.Didn't the Wachowski sisters lose a plagiarism case in court and have to pay someone lots and lots of money?
#33 10:52am 22/06/05
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r_mazing
Posts: 769
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i thought it was more like dark city
#35 12:58pm 22/06/05
Khel
Posts: 10043
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
I dont care if it was an original idea or who it ripped off, the first one was still a really really cool movie. All these other people who had all these great ideas that were apparently ripped off never made any really really cool movies like the Matrix, they just cry about it when someone else does.

Maybe the wachowskis should just stick to ripping off other people's ideas and turning them into awesome movies, cos when they tried to write their own they ended up pretty lame compared to the first one.

And to make this relevant to the thread, my brother bought Act of War in an EB sale recently, and its put out by Atari, and its a really really cool RTS, I'm really getting into it, has a cool Command and Conquer feel to it, with a plot that could almost be an episode of 24.
#36 08:52pm 22/06/05
DrFrag
Posts: 1739
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I thought Atari were making t-shirts these days.
#37 03:57pm 27/06/05
dark_death78
Posts: 5
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
aren't ALL companies making T-Shirts or something anyway?

For example... wormwear... those were some good t-shirts, lol. I wonder if i can still find some now...
#38 12:07am 29/06/05
sc00bs
Posts: 1613
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
sif wear games shirts/clothes/hats etc... go and buy proper clothes lol


im sure people who wear games shirts would pick up heaps *rolls eyes*
#39 12:51am 29/06/05
NaK0r
Posts: 2835
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i was using a really old calculator today that ive had since grade 1 (1991) and saw that it had the atari name on it with their symbol/logo

just thought that was a pretty kool tidbit considering the thread ^_^

/insert dragons and trolley bars here
#40 01:50am 29/06/05
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