can i fit a HKS MS BOV to a standard turbo S13 silvia?

the rice shop

You can fit anything into a car if your willing to spend the money.

s***, C&W put a Supra engine into a Trueno.

Course, there wasnt much else in the Trueno, but it went like the clappers dinnit?

can i fit a HKS MS BOV to a standard turbo S13 silvia?

only if you have a milo tin exhaust, plenty of neons, a 4 foot spoiler and a big stereo.

Bling Bling got teh monies?

How much would a small turbo cost for a 93 daihatsu charade 3 cylinder? :D

your pride and self respect

wat tung said..

asif turbo a charade..you gotta be joking dood.

Why would you bother using a HKS BOV on a standard car? Just use a Turbosmart one or something cheaper... You don't *need* a HKS one, but it's always nice to be able to say it ;)

also, silvia's are f***ing gay

Especially S13s :)

Anyone that owns a silvia should live at sunnybank with the rest of the poofters.

Silvia's are more homosexual than Elton John in a tu-tu, buy a real mans car...For starters don't buy something almost completely made of plastic.

yeah lets all buy VL Commodores hey! good idea! practically all versions of silvias would slaw all your poofta cars into the ground anyway and i dont even own one, well i DO own an S13 but not a silvia :D

asif turbo a charade..you gotta be joking dood.

Anyone who says that obviously has no clue. I've seen 11 second turbo'd charade's - and yes, that's with the original motor.

i own a s13 silvia turbo. think before you speak ya little f***s, ya don't know dick

RhOmEL damn right

as for the rest of you, obviously you dont have a clue between the lot of you

my last post was my lil bro, but anyway, mr sub "woffer" needs to actually go do some research into cars first, do you actually know what a blow off valve does and why its there?
or just that it makes a cool *PSCHHH* noise and means the car is turbocharged and that makes it r33t and go very fast!!&*^*

oh and seeing we all know u dont have ur license yet, dont be expecting to own a turbo car and be able to have it insured and drive it before you are 25, any insurance company with a brain wont touch you with a barge pole, and if you do find one that will, you'll probably be paying more for insurance per year than you did for the car itself

i own a s13 silvia turbo. think before you speak ya little f***s, ya don't know dick

Because you have added such insight into the conversation...

RhOmEL damn right

as for the rest of you, obviously you dont have a clue between the lot of you

Damm you must be a mechanic also with that amount of knowledge...

boxhead again you amaze me

your insiteful comments did well also

the rice shop...yep...

they arent the best cars by far it just irritates me when morons say RICE at the first hint of a mod

Fine to give you something to play with..

just to justify my post, It began to drop down the forum a bit, I assumed someone had seen or knew where to find the right information so I bumped it.. BUT i didn't say bump, I chose something witty so ppl could have a chuckle also...

I'm glad I amaze you, means I've had more of an effect on you then you have had on me.. good work...

i didnt mean in a good way

Anyone watch Race Scar? They had some damn nice silvia's in a drift comp last night. Its on Briz 31 at 7:30 Wendnesday nights and Saturday morning sometime. Good ol community TV

i didnt mean in a good way

yep i'm pretty much devestated now... really...

Boxhead do you think you'll be ok?

*sniff* hold me mission... :p

anyways.. car topics are always popular on here, thinks thats why Auscars was made?
If you want to find something out about cars, and not cop s***, check a car forum or yahoo group..

www.performanceforums.com
or us at redline

bi_channel_subwoofer: make sure you look around before getting a kit, there are alot of s13 kits around. The front runners imo are the Combat Veilside Kit and a custom kit from some guys in brissie called A1 custom bodyworks, i can give you there phone number if you like.

i own a s13 silvia turbo. think before you speak ya little f***s, ya don't know dick

OMG, get the stickytape of your eyelids and stop acting like your asian.

narrow mindedness is prolly the worst disease affecting qgl forum trolls. just because something is japanese doesn't mean its a ricer. a ricer being someone thats made a piece of non performing s*** look brilliant.

ne ways, sif an s13 won't deficate all over a dirty lil commonwhore of the same day

yes, i have to say i wasnt a big fan on silvias b4 my freind bought one, but now after driving in it and well yea i would buy one over an older commonwhore

previous post was by me btw
stoopid plague and hes gayness

Smart is gay.

yea
that broken link looks nice

Hellborn groupie.

haha dont be like this!
get on icq u whore

silvia's are too common, i was in tehe city the other day, evry second car was like a silvia or a skyline

prolly becuz they are very good cars...
but yes they are common...

s13's rock... only tried out a CA18DET, but man for a 1.8ltre engine it flys... I know for a fact no standard commie would stand a chance against it... either would any car that german pretends he has!

ok.

let me first state that i'm not some narrow minded fool who thinks fords suck, holdens "rul" and everything else is "gay"

however.. you've got to look at it this way.. some people can't AFFORD a silvia but they can afford a boggadore.

take me for example. I have 10k to spend. roughly. maybe a little over that

but i sure as hell won't be buying some s***box and ricing it <- waste of money.

and i sure as hell won't be buying a vl commodore <- i think my f***ing DOG owns one they're so common and slow.

and for gods sake.. i don't feel like working my ass off to keep a car so i won't be buying a skyline or a silvia (even if i could be f***ed saving more for one) <- waste of my time

solution? i'm gonna morph myself into one of those wankers that drives a 2 door 96+ body lancer .. green or red.. with about 2k to spend on a stereo. :)

commonsense++;

ppl waste too much money on cars :/

What s***s me in these 4 v 8 debates is the fact that most of the fast 4's have the absolute bejeezus tuned out of them in the way of turbos/cams/bored/etc and then proceed to claim that they are sooo much quicker than stock/slightly modded v8's.

If you took a decent stock 4 and a decent stock 8 (say, the 5.7L from the new holdens) and spent the same amount of money on both I'd like to see which one is quicker...

/me retreats into fireproof bunker

/me walks in the backdoor of the bunker and shoots Crunch

cant compare 2 differnt things. its like saying cats are better than dogs.

but you 4 fans do it all the time!!

they both suck

i can tell you now my current car sr20det 180sx is just about as fast as a HSV Clubsport R8(255kw motor)

the good thing about turbocharged 4's is for a relatively small investment you can make huge gains in power(with filter/exhaust/intercooler and upped boost) whereas in a V8 it requires more expensive parts to improve the engine ontop of what it already is

there all the same, cant you see the resemblance? (eh spelling)

i reckon if these 2 motors had sex they woudld create the SUPER ENGINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://photo.msn.s8.com/MS8zLzAvMS8xMDI5LzE1NS8zMi96OG4zSEVYNHk2dU9KSkJnOS1qbWp3/1c5a579328dea9f7330995a276431229/clbk=HcZNnT9kkUhNCeUkLCtcBE56TnXGEzYEqUehRzkKAzUOLWxUoq3d*9MAfMWVUVmTohI59x2c*qc$/jpg.jpg
http://www.mkiv.com/mkiv_gallery/mkiv_gallery/tuners/top_secret/topsecret4.jpg

i bet it couldn't stu... :)

bet y ou couldn't even beat my car.. and it's standard moit!

Stu, right on. I own a 180sx with a few mods and the car can beat practically anything on the road, except a few rotors. Forced induction is the way to go. I've got a high 12 second car with 16k spent all up, including insurance and mods. Now where you can get an Australia car for that price that will hammer down the quarter at that speed? The japs know their s***.

sinft buy a pulsar GTiR :)

wolfiee it must be quite a s*** heap if it cost you that much... and i'm quite sure you would have had to do quite a bit to knock down to low 12 second quarter.

Also , dongs

Thats right its the biggest s*** heap i've ever seen in my entire life. Youre a moron mick and youre speaking out of your anus. Simple mods such as weight reductions, exhaust, hi flow air filter, boost control and a car that weighs less than 1200 kgs and it will go down the the quarter in under 13.

weight reduction ?? you cut the back off tard

I've never driven a s13 with a SR20DET.... so i wouldn't know. work any car and you can lower your 1/4 time. I just mean under 16,000 for a s13 must mena u got a pretty s*** qual one dick HEAD

I know it must be hard to wrap your mind around it, but lots of people have different hobbies, their time doesnt equate to money. Such sintalating replies, ouch, burnt.

what?

you homo mick

ive had a guy in my car who owns a clubsport r8 and winds it out a lot and he said it was just about as fast as his - it would basically depend on launch - pfft you might have 20kw on me but you've also got 200kgs :)

PS. Ricky said Dans 1.8 could beat your car so i dont think id have too much trouble :)

i reckon if these 2 motors had sex they woudld create the SUPER ENGINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well in theory a big V8 engine or any cylinder based engine for that matter is just the same as a 4 cylinder just with more cylinders which equate to more engine volume
so it is quite possible to turbo/super charge a bigger engine.

well there are turbo 4 cyl and 6 cyl so it should be possible for 8 or 10 or 12, maybe the ferarri engines are turbo?? i dont know anyone clarify that?

i dont know why its not done maybe there is a reason or itd just be insanely fast or the power gain wasnt really worth the money

only thing i could think of is that bigger engines start off slower and if u want an acceleration machine a 4 cyl turbo would get off the mark quicker than an 8cyl turbo and the higher speeds the 8 could reach would be too far down the track past the finish line.

Sig Test

Of course you can turbo any engine... ffs man you know nothing at all.... and Ferrari's? Of course not!! How dare you comment if you don't even know that? ANd just cos an engine has more capacity doesn't make it better in any way... there are MILLIONS of other factors like head design, induction etc etc.

Japanese cars = awesome. Euro cars = DA BEST!!!

Aussie cars s*** boxes that fall apart, American cars are far worse than Aussie cars! If you don't like Japanese cars you are a complete and utter deads*** and have no right to comment.

hows ur volvo goin ana?

well its pretty easy to work out that you can turbo any sized engine, OR kind of engine for that matter,
to what i understand turbocharging is fuel injection using the exhaust gases which can get that fuel into the cylinders very quickly and under pressure more of it will go in, hence why turbo cars eat more fuel than naturally aspirated ones

but the question remains, why arent there any turbo 8 cyl? can u answer that anarot?
is the power gain just not worth it?

Acutally turbos just blow air into the induction system and to keep the air/fuel ratio correct more fuel has to be injected by the injectors/fuel induction system.

Bloody editing poof!! :P there are turbo V8s. Maserati has/had them, and there are tonnes of guys twin turboing Holden V8s and the like around Australia. s*** loads of power and MOUTAINOUS torque! Problems are finding gearboxes to handle the torque and the cost of building the induction systems cos they are more complex due to more cylinders needing fuel. Bentley used a Turbo V8 in their performance versions. It works awesomely! But the problem is the size of the motor - the car has to be huge to handle the physical size of the motor (except the Maserati's which use small capacity V8s). Turbos are good cos they give more torque (and power of course) to smaller engines whereas bigger engines produce torque easier without turbo. That is a basic answer to your question anyway.

Smart - Volvo is long gone :( I miss it but I have an N14 Pulsar with SR20DE now :) It feels like if I hit anything it'll disintegrate compared to the Volvo but it goes hard and handles better (although I hate front drive) so its cool.

but why no turbo 8's!???

ah i have done my research :) turbos use the exhasut gases to spin the lil turbine dooby which in turn blows air into the induction system pressurising it allowing more air to be jammed into the cylinders and then the oxygen sensor goes lotsa air!! need more fuel and puts in more fuel. Extra fuel and air in the cylinders results in more power.

and also seeing you are using exhaust gases it makes the wee lil turbo hot and thats where the intercooler comes in, stealing the hot air and cooling it down again so mr turbo doesnt go MELLLLTY

basically it is an uberfied fuel injection system.

Stu ; yeah but it's ricky and he knows umm nothing!

Look up! I can edit too!

well ricky is gay but he was pretty convinced dans was faster then yours.. anyway

As if turbo on an 8, put a supercharger on it... With the 8 cylinders you can afford the power consumed by the supercharger itself and you don't have to wait for higher RPM's like with a turbo.

Also, I thought we all learnt not to have car threads ?!?!

ferraris are already highly tuned engines with already high compressions, if u try to force induction things like heads, break.

Everyone has a right to comment anarot, it's called freedom of speech...learn it

if anyone remembers The Judge, he had a twin turbo V8 in some dodgy italian car shell;
his car was super fast until he didnt stop :(

http://www.twinturbov8.com/index.html

some americans twin turbocharged a dodge vipers enginer...thats right...8.5L V10 with twin turbos.

The lotus espirit has a twin turbo v8

it's not unheard of, it's just less common.

prolly because v8 engines are far more expensive to manufacture than 4 cylinder ones. If you have a look at the price of engines you can buy, you'll notice that 4 cylinder engines such as the sr20 really very cheap indeed. It just makes so much sense, big power at a low price.

like anarot said you need a big car to handle a massive engine. the amount of fule you use in a big v8 is bad enough as it is, put turbos on a massive v8 and you'll use even more, it gets rediculous, and then the car is so damn big. all you have is a big car that mat have s***loads of power, but is so heavy that it goes just as fast as a smaller sports car except... it's way more expensive in every way. doesn't make much practical sense, unless you just desperately have to fit your extended family in the back. Most people who want a fast car aren't interested in having a large one.

by the way, i have to comment on crush using the 5.7 liter chev as an example of a good v8, i think that's bollucks, i think that engine sux major balls.

omg Axis is back!

I haven't seen him post since I started my account!!!

Spook it wasn't dodgy Italian body!! How can you say that!! It was a Giaccotolo, a modified Alfa Romeo shell and looked beautiful!! That car was one of the most awesome things I've ever seen, save for the Holden badge on the engine...... Had he used a Lexus Quad cam instead then *OMFG SPOOT*

Eye Kandy don't be gay! If there is one thing I hate it is f*****s who have an opinion bit no knowledge to back it up, so stop defending your bum-buddy!

but why no turbo 8's!???

Actually, the way I came to believe it (my own logic)...

V8's are supercharged because the supercharge is constant...

Now, a lil' 4 cyl generally has a wider-range of RPM's than a big 8, so it can be "up on the rev's" more, thus the turbo can spin up harder (yes exhaust emissions are used to spin the turbine in a turbo)...

Now, this is all great and all and does actually work on a V8, but why be "up on the rev's" on a v8 when they have such awesome amounts of torque even at the low RPM's?

This I think is the driving reason to supercharging rather than turbo'ing...

8's are genereally used for their phenomenal BHP [Break Horse Power].
Supercharging works at all RPMS including while idling. Which mean's that big V8 can just give it the go from the beginning and produce even more torque and usability of its power, especially at the low RPMS (which 4 cyls are not gifted with, their best torque occurs, I think usually/generally at a realatively much higher RPM)...

So while V8's can be turbo'd, it would seem more preferable to supercharge them, (as explained, giving greater power at the already advantaged low-rpms, combined with generally not red-lining as high.. the bigger it is, the slower it turns :D)

That is exactly what I think Loki :o)

I have seens pics of a supercharged Gemini though !! :D c'arn the 1.6L Isuzu :p

Not all 8's have torque down low, Ferrari's for example... you are just talking about the s***test V8's on the planet, the ones made in American and Australia.... Ferrari, BMW, Toyota, Maserati etc etc V8s rev just as good as your average 4 cylinder. Turbos are usually used because they take up less space than a f***ing huge 6/71 blower that would be needed to produce the same horses. (I'm talking road cars here... if you wanna talk drag cars its a whole different story, but who the f*** here drives a drag car?).

my VH will be pretty wild on the street

but the 8/71 blown 327 that i build for my next car (prob HQ/HK coupe) will be essentially a drag car