pedophilic priests deserve to die.

Catholic Church Archbishop describes child sexual abuse as less of a crime than abortion.

At World Youth Day forum in Toronto, Archbishop Pell told his audience (500 young Roman Catholic delegates) that abortion was a worse moral scandal than priests sexually abusing young people.

HE ACTUALLY f***ING SAID THAT to an audience that would have almost definately included young people that have come into contact with sexual molestation in their church.

"According to the view of George Pell, and in effect the Catholic Church, it's not OK to harm a child in the womb but it's not so bad if you harm a child outside it," Ms Johnston, who runs victim support network Bravehearts, said today.

Even after all the child raping church scandals, these dirty f***ing priests still don't get it, and come out with more bulls*** such as this.

The only reason priests are against abortion, is because it's one fewer child available for their molesting.

I think the final statement is over the top, but the situation is apalling.

suss.



reminds me of nudgee

The Pope today apologised for sexual abuse by US preists, but hey, f*** the rest of the world huh?...

*shrug*

dirty dirty priests

simple proof religion is all a sham

i say f*** religeon it causes so much conflict in the world.

and f***ing pope what a bout the fagget priests every where else in the world huh???

f***ing dirty dirty c***s. Any priest that makes a f***ed comment like that should be castrated and slapped in the face with their own balls. We need someone like Superman to come along and teach these losers a lesson.

Self righteous homosexual priests. Its amazing the amount of perverted s*** these guys get up to all in the name of god.

I still cant get over how many priets have been caught...its absolutley disgusting, and

get up to all in the name of god

you're a f***ing moron wolfieee

Whoah, whoah. Ease down Vertical. We're all feeling the pressure here.

My daughter isn't going anywhere near catholic places... Too much goes on there... Then again the priests tend to prefer boys, dirty dirty priests.

gg church

thing is, everyone use to joke around about s*** like that...ie. priests love littles boys, we all said this when we we're younger, and now we find out it farkin true..oh well. IT'S DISGUSTINGS.

CATHOLIC church thx

theres a big difference

haha, religion.

"CATHOLIC church thx

theres a big difference"


Please explain.

religion. = teh gay

Please explain.

I'm with tref (at least, if he's saying what I think he's saying) - as a not-very-religious-at-all-person, I'm just seeing this as 'religious people in authority abusing their power to break the law and exploit younger people'. I'm not differentiating between different religions/faiths/whatever. I would have thought most non-religious types think like this as well - they just see this and go "well, s***, I'm glad I never went to church when I was a kid", or words to that effect.

i think what he's trying to say that the catholic church isnt the only church out there, and also most churches arent catholic, they are other denominations such as baptist, angligan, AOG, etc etc.

the problem is in the catholic church and yet people think it's in every church, which is majority of the problem.

thats very f***in discusting.

As if its worse.

Child Rapists should be tortured for a solid week before being executed.

Of course the church is gunna say that child rape is ok. They are the main offenders.

the problem is in the catholic church and yet people think it's in every church, which is majority of the problem.

Peter Hollingworth was covering up cases of child sex abuse in the Anglican church. So it's not just the Catholic church.

and f***ing pope what a bout the fagget priests every where else in the world huh???

he probably didnt have a right to apologise on behalf of any other priests in the world.

ie, the discussion that apology was quoted from was probably about US priests, and therefore comment on priests across the world isnt relevant.

Do you really think he, the f***ing Pope, would want to be on record saying "Yeah, sorry about the seppos, but just deal with it from everyone else".

you're a f***ing moron wolfieee

f*** you vertical, if you dont think that priest's and people of power in the church (whatever the religion) abuse the rights and the power they are given, then you need to get your brain checked for defects. How do you think these fools justify everything they do ? You think they wake up one day and go, "i think i'm going to molest a child today". They use their power and the fear of god that they instill into people to get what they want.

Further more, have a look at why half the wars on this planet start and why they continue to rage. Its because someone has a god, a religion and a belief and he uses all those means to justify his actions, even if it means taking life or taking away the innocence of a young child.

Why dont you use some logic and actually think before you start abusing people.

Grow up you little immature child.

I reckon that ped priests should be forced to endure kids kicking soccer balls at them on a soccer field immediately prior to commencing their jail term.

The scary thing about rock spiders is that they usually dont think they are doign anything morally wrong. They honestly try to argue that children WANT that kind of treatment. I saw this doco a couple of years ago, it was a shocker. It mainly dealt with peds up for parole and how most frankly admitted that they couldnt guarantee that they wouldnt reoffend.

The amount of self righteous jusitification was appalling, let alone if they had have been priests, which doubtless would have doubled the arrogance.

Anyone who argues (as some lobbyists do) that adults should be alowed to have intercourse with children needs to be kept well clear of any kids. That's some scary s***.

these guys get up to all in the name of god

so using your f***ed logic you could say teachers (the other large group of ped's) is raping for education? dickwad

i hope i dont have to point out that i think sexually assualting childeren is by far one of the worst crimes you can commit, im certainly not trying to justify what any of these sickos have done

Peter Hollingworth was covering up cases of child sex abuse in the Anglican church. So it's not just the Catholic church

good point, let me rephrase, majority of it is contained in the catholic church.

yes im really looking forward to graduating uni with my teaching degree in hand... :(

Through my practicals at schools teaching children and the like I have learnt one very sad thing, When I finally goto graduate and get a job in a school teaching, I am alone...

The education department has basically said (well not "officially) they can no longer protect me as a male in a primary school classroom.. The onus now falls upon me to note and record any possible action on my behalf or a students behalf that could lead be remotely seen as "evil"..

It is really a scarey prospect, I have put in all this time at uni, learning how to help children learn, reach their full potential as people and in general provide them with a worthwhile educational experience but that could all be thrown out the window because of an innocent pat on the shoulder or a touch on the arm to gain attention..

I have heard countless stories of 4th year students who on their final practical have been faced with a bunch of yr7 girls who "didn't like the way he taught", so they decided to play a game of stuffing up his career.. It wasn't until a court case and the girls were called as witnesses that they testified that it was all a big joke.. That student couldn't face another classroom let alone a child again.. I think he ended up as an accountant or something behind a desk isolated from the world..

Why would I enter such a system you ask? Why would I bother putting my life on the line to do such *dangerous* job? Basically because I get a kick out of children learning things, picking up on things I have taught them and they remember. Activities I prepare that the children enjoy all make the personal sacrafice worthwhile, just to have a child say "thank you, I enjoyed that, It was really fun" makes it all worthwhile..

At the end of the day, children do need some sort of male rolemodel, Teachers spend 7-8 hours a day with children for the best part of 13 years, meaning they pretty much become a bigger part in their lives then their parents, that to me is important, I firmly believe that that time should be spent constructivly, always giving children opportunities to develop and improve themselves...

/end mega_rant

yeah i know how bad it is for male teachers boxhead, good work for going ahead anyway

If one thought that abortion was equivalent to murder then what is all the controversy about? A lot of people think murder is "worse" than rape. Assuming he takes the normal catholic stance on abortion all he's saying is "It's worse to kill kids than to rape them."

I don't see how this statement condones child molestation.

Education is a necessity, Religion is not.

If you do not educate a child from birth they will fail. Full stop.

If you do not expose a child to any religious faculty or any form of beliefs from birth they will not be at a loss, and might even be graced with the ability to form an educated non-bias opinion in their future.

If these children were not forced by their brainwashed parents to be exposed to these rock apes in a religious environment in the first place there would be no risk of interference.

It should be a childs right to live free from any form of persuation until he reaches the age of 18, and then the child is free to choose AS A MATURE ADULT what he will and won't beleive in.

Imagine telling a logical educated 18 year old who has never been exposed to religion all the mythical supernatural occurances that appear in the bible. They would laugh with disbeleif.

they dont even beleive in contraception. more babies = more followers = more money = better golf car for pope.

just glad religion doesn't play such a role in our country full of convicts. ticks me off when imigrants bring there religious problems over here, and then take it out on us. dont like it, go back to your homeland.

word tref.

i was brought up to make my own decisions when i was older. i was never baptised. my old man made sure it was my right to chose. and he is also school teacher.

so using your f***ed logic you could say teachers (the other large group of ped's) is raping for education? dickwad

What exactly are you saying ? Do you think you could structure your sentences in manner where people can understand what point your trying to actually prove or whether your just flamming my posts for the sheer hell of it ? Both of us agree that taking away the innocence of a child is wrong.

Teachers are raping for education ? What the f*** is that.....crawl back into your little hole.

Imagine telling a logical educated 18 year old who has never been exposed to religion all the mythical supernatural occurances that appear in the bible. They would laugh with disbeleif

i'm educated, i think very locically, and i became a christian at 17, i know lots of people who have become christians at the age of 17 and well beyond that.

your point isnt correct in any way shape or form

wolfie - what i think he was ranting about was people blaming religion for this, it's like blaming education for the cases of teacher rape/molestation.

which is a very good point, it's not like they teach this in every church or something! when u think about it, if the devel wants to get ppl away from religion who's he going to target into temptation? an athiest or a cathloic priest?

wolfiee, all im trying to say is that your point about priest's raping for god and their religion is equal to saying that teachers are assaulting children for education...as in it makes no sense and is incorrect.

also the ignorance of many of you against religion is pretty impressive, before you slag anything off i think you have to actually have to base your beliefs around something.

tref: What constitutes a religion? At some point you have to believe something. That you put your faith in "Science" rather than "God" doesn't change the fact that at some point you've simply accepted some axiomatic truth and have worked from there. You choose to put that faith in "Church Of Reason" (term lifted from Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintainence) rather than "God". When seen from this perspective can't you concede that each belief system is actually quite similar and that it is only when considered within the context of its own reasoning that the other is rendered nonsensical.

Indeed, your suggestion reads very much like the arbitary "religous" dogma that you are denouncing. You make assumptions that you can't back up then propose solutions that you don't justify. Why is 18 some magical age? What constitutes "acceptable" knowledge to impart to a child below your magical age? How do we impart ethical and moral values to these children?

What you really want is for everyone to be an adherent to the church of western science (no doubt the one you've been "brainwashed" into believing by your parents) and to renounce all other belief systems isn't it? If it is then just say so. Simply accept that you are exactly the same as the misionaries and evangelists of other "religions" that try to foist their belief system onto the entire world.

nice post plok...i was trying to articulate something like that but couldnt :D

verticalseafoodtaco: Don't think for a minute, plok actually believes in what he wrote :)

we need more plok on this board. also, in my book, rape is worse then murder, as the vitctim has to live with it for the rest of your life.

oh yeah i forgot plok does that, heh

Rukh, if you see a flaw in my reasoning feel free to point it out. I haven't at any point stated what my personal beliefs happen to be, but I don't delude myself into thinking that my way of thinking is "right" and all others are "wrong". It is only natural for one to feel that their beliefs are "correct", even obviously so. But how could it be otherwise, when they are reasoning about their own belief system in the context of that very same belief system. A self-denying faith would not live long. So while I feel that everything I think/feel is the "right" way, I can accept that that is more a function of me using that way of thinking to reason about it than it is about some inherent property of existence.

u tork reel good ay

whats that old saying, never talk about politics and relgion :)

"At some point you have to believe something"

No? You definately do not HAVE to believe in any of the varied versions of religions proferred to you. I have said before that if I was to be categarised in any shape or form, I would best describe my self as an Agnostic.
http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/humftp/E-text/Russell/agnostic.htm

I think it is EXTREMELY foolish of anyone to believe in any of these religions or said occurances without experiencing anything of the sort first hand. When you classify yourself as a certain religion, ie Catholic ,IMO you are binding yourself to all of their beliefs and all of their writings. The people that pick and choose what they do and don't believe then still try to adhere to their chosen label are pathetic. I have met some outspoken Catholics who beleive in dinosaurs AND believe in creation!!! Lol their own book timelines this as an impossiblity.

It is entirely possible to be as good a human as you can be without religion. Some of the guidlines outlined by the various churches are logical and extremely beneficial to humans though. Treat everyone as equal etc. If everyone adhered to these rules the world would be a better plac I'll admit.

18 is not a magical age - it's an age that this and many other countries has derived to be apt to label someone an 'adult'.
I have not been brainwashed. I do not adhere to the 'Church of Western Science', ta for the speculation though.

Also, I am not publicly thrusting my POV on anybody. Religions are fabricated by man, and thus form a fabricated entity. Not believing in any of these 'entities' does not constitute being an entity itself though, as you tried to argue - it's just not choosing one of the ones available.

who beleive in dinosaurs AND beleive in creation!!! Lol their own book timelines this as an impossiblity.

actually it does, have a browse around the answers in genisis website if u can find it.

All I'm gonna say is most religions in effect, the message is the same and good etc (if you wanna call it karma, or living by the bible or whatever)

anyway
the institution of most religions are f***ed, simply cause they've been warped by men in high places, who enjoy f***ing a kid, physically and mentally for the rest of their life...
if you look through some history I think you'll notice nearly all the good things done by "the church" have been done by an individual....

geh - mind not currently working due to mix of insomnia and flu but I basically reject all 'real' religions, they're all subject to being warped, take the bible for example, even in its raw its quite possibly warped, most of it is letters from one man to the corinthians or whatever, who says his opinions mustn't have been biased? history is littered with examples of letters containing bias and historical inaccuracies...

its disgusting a lot of these priests get away with what they do.. so now I really only believe in myself, the people around me and the fact that I'll get more "godly" things done if I stop praying for someone to come out and save me and start saving myself.

Religion has a long dark history of being wrong. Whenever someone comes and proves some of their bulls*** isn't realy they say "omg maen you can't take it literally!@!@". But stuff that is yet to be proved wrong is GOD'S INFALLIBLE WORD SO DON'T DISS IT OR YOU ARE GOING TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

You mean this attempt at reasoning?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dinosaurs.asp

You have to be kidding me.

Taken from above link in defense of the bible believers:

"Unmineralized (‘unfossilized’) dinosaur bones.4 How could these bones, some of which even have blood cells in them, be 65 million years or more old? It stretches the imagination to believe they are even many thousands of years old."

It stretches HIS imagination, not anyone elses cause he is a f***EN TARD.

That gem just about sums up the quality of that site.

NO MAN YOU CAN'T TAKE IT LITERALLY LOOK FOR THE HIDDEN MEANING!

tref, it's all referenced and usually backed up by scientific evidence, dont jus read it and go 'oh well he must be wrong cause thats not what i think'.

whats the life of a blood cell outside a body? find the answer to that and maybe u'll change ur tune a little.

So you are saying there were dinosaurs around as soon as thousands of years ago?

I highly, highly doubt that.

Just don't believe anything you read on the Internet and you'll do fine.

plok, the difference between 'science' religion and 'non-terrestrial' (god) religion, is that science provides hard evidence, fact, cause & effect and results.

In no way shape or form has 'God' ever shown me anything to make me believe in...

I believe firmly in science and anything that yields results that it is accountable for.

I have been baptised and I'm a Catholic, instead of following religion or even BELIEVING in it, at best I'd use it as a sub-conscious guide on how to live life, not HOW to live my life, but a guide.

It all makes sense really,
Don't Steal
Don't Kill
Blah Blah Blah
Sex before marriage or whatever, I reckon that one came about from lack of contraceptives in the days of any text being scribed... makes sense not to live a life not sprouting kiddies everywhere.

IMO I *hate* anybody who forces THEIR religion onto others (whether that be god or science), providing some 'facts' to support their beliefs not a problem, but trying to force it on someone is stupid.

I reckon best bet is to believe in what you believe in... if that's what does it for you, great for you.

But most of all believe in yourself more than anything else.

Religion is a poor excuse for war, and has potential for war all the time and has caused wars.
One religion believes they other is worshipping a 'false' god, tries to 'fix' that... The snowball effect starts from there and the s*** goes downhill fast and quick...

But if you want real fun. Hire a foam machine! Girls drenched in foam on a stick!

Loki = teh win

SquarkyD, the referencing they are using (I have read a LOT of that site btw) is bias.

The scientifically proven stuff which you refer to, is the end result of them sifting through ALL scientific evidence and finding an opinion by an 'expert' which is favourable to their cause.

To be truly scientific, they need to post a hell of a lot more than what they do, at least 20 non bias scientifically proven pieces of evidence focussed on one topic for us to paruse not just the one they choose.

Again, they are misleading.

^^ also to my above post, think about how alot of laws and religion's are quite closely related

(Steal, Murder, Rape [respect other's bodies, be monogamous etc. sorta stuff], etc. etc.)

The reason? its common sense really, and necessary for non-chaotic society.

However, there are some things that baffle me like how did the first atom the UNIVERSE get here.. etc etc.

Stuff that I'll never be around long enough to find out the answer to from science.

That leads some openings, but still not one I'm ready to believe in something I can't feel, see, touch or hear.

I'm a kinesthetic person, I learn from doing things, working things out manually through manipulation and experimentation before reading that damned manual =P
For that as one reason, *I* could never instill belief in any 'god'.
If any god at all, I believe *I* am god (of myself of course, I control my own little pathetic world... my thoughts, my imagination, my desires etc etc.)

I don't have a problem with anybody else believing in any god, or their tradition, so long as THEY do NOT expect ANYTHING from ME based on THEIR expectations and beliefs.

Live and let live philosophy.

Peace ..||, =)

No? You definately do not HAVE to believe in any of the varied versions of religions proferred to you. I have said before that if I was to be categarised in any shape or form, I would best describe my self as an Agnostic.

Note that I didn't say you had to believe in "any of the varied versions of religions proferred to you", merely that you have to believe "something", by definition. Inferring from your posts it seems you happen to believe in the value of logic. Fair enough. That's something you accept. It makes sense to you to think and reason logically. 'Logically', organised "religions" don't make any sense at all. They are 'logically' inconsistent. Often the outcome of adhering to their dogma leads to 'illogical' actions giving 'undesirable' outcomes. But all I'm doing here is judging those religions with my own reasoning process (logic) and using my own notions of 'right', 'wrong', 'desirable' etc.

Going back to your original point:

Education is a necessity, Religion is not.

If you do not educate a child from birth they will fail. Full stop.

What I was trying to show was that:
a) How do you delineate "education" and "religion"
b) You say they will "fail" but that is simply your opinion on the worth and purpose of life. A Catholic person would consider someone who died without accepting their beliefs as having "failed", as they would then be burning in hell for the rest of eternity.

Also, I am not publicly thrusting my POV on anybody.

It was my understanding that you were advocating a policy of non-religious exposure to people under 18. I think it's a little disingenious to claim that this won't lead to a greater number of people who share your agnostic tendencies.

I think religions should be taught, but no one religion should be imposed on children. For example; I learnt about Egyptian and Greek culture in Social Science, and I was happy with the knowledge I gained from that. I did not, however, appreciate a child molesting priest coming to my class room and tell me how to live my life.

To outline what my defination of education is:

Education is broad and topic non-specific. It is the teaching of a child the PROVEN FACTUAL basic and non basic NECESSATIES of life - walking, talking, eating, reading, writing, behavioural concepts, right, wrong, progressing to advanced levels of education.

Teaching a child religion is educating someone on a specific topic, which can not be PROVEN to be accurate, hence my view that it should not be taught, nor should any 'child' be exposed to any information regarding religion due to the fact that it is all based on a book written by man which CAN NOT be proven accurate.

Also, you have to type in a specific address to get to this page.

The chances of stumbling onto my rant from the never never land of the internet are negligible.
I would define what I post here as thread specific private responses which are not made available to the general public.

b) You say they will "fail" but that is simply your opinion on the worth and purpose of life. A Catholic person would consider someone who died without accepting their beliefs as having "failed", as they would then be burning in hell for the rest of eternity.

What about people who were forced to be put into a religion at birth, but don't WANT to believe in it & weren't made to attend church etc.

See, IMO religion is so full of it in saying... you will burn in hell if you dont follow what WE think is right or wrong based on some perceptions/interpretations of some WRITTEN text.

It's like talking on the internet, its f***ed unless your CLEAR and PRECISE about your emotion and point your trying to get across. Religion text's can be interpreted in many ways IMO.
The Church should not delegate (right word?) how you act, or believe in the religion, being part of the religion should allow you to use those text's and general beliefs to guide your life (within bounds of the law/acceptability, i.e. NOT raping children)...

If I'm going to hell (if it exists, which I don't believe so) because I don't implicitly believe in god/heaven/hell/etc.
The so be it, that religion that I'm supposedly a part of can go get f***ed for not accepting me for who I am and what I believe in and condemning me to whatever it is I am to be subjected to.

As I said, I believe in alot of the text, just not the stuff that can't be proved and relies only on faith (god etc.)

The rest of it is all common sense... thus I wouldn't really say I believe in religion.

Back on topic, Archbishop Pell is from sydney, he's the head of the catholic church in aust', and it's
not the first time he's said something contentious, he was in the news a few months ago, cant remember what for, lets just say he's a conservative moron out of touch with modern society.

"and I was happy with the knowledge I gained from that"

This is the entire problem.
Children are impressionable. When adults speak of religion the child naturally assumes it is FACT because they lack both the experience and the knowledge to make a non bias judgement themselves.

To me, telling a child about religion and a 'God', is on a par with telling them their is a boogie monster in the cupboard who eats you at night - they will believe you no matter what, despite the fact that it isn't true.

^^ well said tref, the analogy of the boogey monster in the cupboard pretty much sums it up.

That you put your faith in "Science" rather than "God"

I think you are confusing the term faith.

doesn't change the fact that at some point you've simply accepted some axiomatic truth and have worked from there.

Agreed.
Though I would purport that most people who believe in "God" also accept the axioms from "Science".
Furthermore, I think that your conclusion that if someone accepts something as axiomatic that it is an article of "faith" is incorrect.
Faith as you put it can best be described as "Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence."
And an axiomatic truth can be described as "It cannot be denied because its truth is assumed in making any statement. "
"Faith" as a tool to gain knowledge can be denied and I do not have to use it in making my statement.
<OHH!! But Hast! Your above statement has implied concepts which must of been accepted as articles of "Faith">
On the contrary, these concepts (the ones at the bottom of the chain) are examples of axiomatic truths and not "Faith".

to add my 2c to this religion debate..

I wouldn't strictly religious education is about god and what he did many moons ago rather its a cover for the teaching of a basic set of morals and ethics (the teaching of these two is somewhat frowned upon in schools, it has always been seen that a classroom is no place for someone to have their values tested or altered)

The way I see religion in todays schools is a guidepost in the the way in which we, as people, should act and treat one another, that is fairly etc...

Vertical: I did base my opions on the word power. The essence of my point is the fact that the priests are using their positions of power to get what they want from a religious system. Youre talking about religions where priests are almost gods and whatever they say goes. They abuse their positions. People look up to them for guidence, wisdom, etc, but instead they abuse the roles they were instated into. Do you think children know the difference between whats right and whats wrong when all they may have been taught was to fear god. Its obvious the priest was using all the factors to get himself into a position where he could do whatever he wanted. Which is where my point was made. The fact that they manipulate the forces at play to get where they want, such as god, religion, church, etc.

Read my post about talking on the internet, unless your precise and convey exactly what you mean, its f***ed...
It's left open for everyone to interpret it their own way wolfieee.

By no means am I gettin at anybody here... just that I think yas had a mis-understanding of what was meant by the post, and what the other interpreted it as..

Meh. in otherwords, lets leave it at that :)

wolfieee: teachers use their position of power aswell to abuse children...maybe you should of editted your post, so that the point you were trying to make is the same as the one you posted?

Back on topic, Archbishop Pell is from sydney, he's the head of the catholic church in aust', and it's
not the first time he's said something contentious, he was in the news a few months ago, cant remember what for, lets just say he's a conservative moron out of touch with modern society.

He said that Homosexuality was more dangerous than smoking.

/me laughs at the Backberner/Kim Gyngel parody :)

"and I was happy with the knowledge I gained from that"

This is the entire problem.
Children are impressionable. When adults speak of religion the child naturally assumes it is FACT because they lack both the experience and the knowledge to make a non bias judgement themselves.

Did you even read my post Tref?
Mythologies other than Christianity are taught in a way that doesn't impose the beleifs on the children. We all learnt about other religions in grade 8 social science, but none of us make sacrifices to Bastet or do dances in honour of Zeus. If Christianity was taught in a way that gave people THE FACTS ABOUT THE FAITH (not the 'facts' about life) then that would be educational, and not an imposition of beliefs.

Welcome to MY Church, the Church of "If Plok wants to use a thesaurus to replace every word in his sentences, SOMEBODY teach him how to spell".

Today's sermon:

proferred

- "proffered"

disingenious

- "disingenuous"

And the punctuation! God (by which I mean "whatever entity (or nonentity) you do (or do not) believe in") save us.

This post was brought to you by the "plok must be getting paid by the syllable" foundation.

Your beliefs are your beliefs and i respect that but i believe you're an idiot.

haha people call this perverted and forget that whenever they visit a strip joint, they are indulging in perverse behaviour as well.

not the SAME perverse behaviour, of course, but still perverse behaviour.

Did you even read my post Tref?
Mythologies other than Christianity are taught in a way that doesn't impose the beleifs on the children. We all learnt about other religions in grade 8 social science, but none of us make sacrifices to Bastet or do dances in honour of Zeus. If Christianity was taught in a way that gave people THE FACTS ABOUT THE FAITH (not the 'facts' about life) then that would be educational, and not an imposition of beliefs.

that sounds really good, instead of feeding s*** down our throats like some dick sucking homosexuals, which by the sounds, they are, with little boys.

of course this post was MEANT to point out that i agree with Goa'uld's statement, but it got out of hand.

Teaching students about different belief systems and faiths should be standard for every school. At least then, people aren't fairly ignorant/misinformed and rant on about things they don't/barely know about.

Imagine having a typo corrected by someone who collects and posts items for the sole intention of being deliberately detrimental to another human, and in the process attempt to bring himself praise, respect and self satisfaction by making other board goers endure the said posted drivel.

haha people call this perverted and forget that whenever they visit a strip joint, they are indulging in perverse behaviour as well.

Druid, strip clubs are good. No go over and stand in the corner and say ten hail mary's for that comment.

8-)

"Imagine having a typo corrected by someone who collects and posts items for the sole intention of being deliberately detrimental to another human, and in the process attempt to bring himself praise, respect and self satisfaction by making other board goers endure the said posted drivel. "

Imagine taking the internet as seriously as you do, tref.

How exactly am I forcing people to endure my drivel? My drivel is self-service drivel. And the best thing about my it is that it isn't painfully (and rather pathetically) sincere, like the majority of your "contributions".

Further, imagine knowing the full story before commenting on it.

Lol, ta. But it was a serious thread!!

Good ol' StreX starting his serious posts knowing that he'll get a high topic count next to his name :P

whatever newbie.

i post s*** that interests me, and should concern alot of other ppl.

however, it is true that having alot of replies to the thread you created is in direct correlation to having a very large penis.

hahaha strex0r


-10 sincerity points for this post.

however, it is true that having alot of replies to the thread you created is in direct correlation to having a very large penis.

That guy with like a 30 page thread that had over 500,000 hits would have a f***ing GINORMAS peni that when it got happy he would pass out due to loss of blood in the brain

i think you people should stop equating the church with religion and with faith.

was it a war against terrorism?