Any software around that can diagnose what the f*** is wrong with my comptuer??

have found a few on google....dled a trial version that gave me a week trial which was over as soon as i installed :S gay AMIDiag

splat you dont know what i want!!!!!!!!!!
i know there isent a prob with the software...i want a PROGRAM (software) that will diagnose what is wrong with my hardware...ie if it is overheating....or if there is a device conflict...bla-ty bla.

and yes i think it may be heat as well....but ive put an extra fan in there now and it has allowed me to run with the case on :)

what is wrong with your computer?

most of that software can't diagnose s***

Matt its not software cus you reinstalled and it was still happening so its hardware right? not many proggs diagnose hardware faults

From what you said about you PENT3 being at like 43 deg im willing to say

1) HEAT
2) HEAT f***ED YOUR CPU
3) CPU f***ED
4) what was the fan that wasn't origionally working?
5) that component is also f***ed

Check your temps
check your fan rpms
check your northbridge temp
check your vid card temp
check your cabels
check that the Mobo isn't shorting
check all voltages
check correct instalation
check correct settings
check correct bios revision
check pants

check pants

rofl!

noone else know about diagnostic progs?

Like they said - most diagnostic programs are crap. But if you're really that interested do a google search for "Diagnostic programs" or "Diagnostic utilities".

Why not say what's wrong with the PC and pick our brains though? Pretty much everyone else does it :)

yeah if there was such a program don't you think computer techs would be a little broke atm.....

Skrybre.......ive already done that....i know a few guys who have almost finished IT degrees and they have got no idea whats wrong with it...its completely f***ED

Power.....there ARE such programs out there....i have seen stuff on them on the net.....just none that i can use/dl....i was asking if anyone knew where one was that i coulkd dl and TRY out....cus atm im desperate.

There are programs, BUT they aren't much good for anything other than stress-testing various components. The only true way to diagnose a computer comes in the form of a tech.

yeah hunter atm anything is all good.....tech do s*** all....i took it to a tech once and there like.....i reformated the HDD...and its working FINE.....we ran it over night...and didnt glitch...f*** HEADS

Si-Soft Sandra MAY offer some assistance.

yeah hunter atm anything is all good.....tech do s*** all....i took it to a tech once and there like.....i reformated the HDD...and its working FINE.....we ran it over night...and didnt glitch...f*** HEADS

if thats the case then maybe the the error lies between the keyboard and the chair...

Maybe you're doing something causing it to f*** up

yeah maybe i need a new optical mouse.....or maybe some extra fans.....wanna help me out with some cheap ones boxhead?? :P

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?

I think that maybe the problem

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BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.. they have internet in prison boxhead?!

You mean the good-old 'Replace user and hit any key to continue.' error message?

Getty s***ty at people on here because you're computer is rooted as a result of something you've probably done (or haven't done) isn't the smartest idea if you wanted their help.

not really...don't know how i could help really..just maybe get someone else to install an os on it for you.. so you don't break it again

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ermm it says that actually..

BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.. they have internet in prison boxhead?!

Haha I guess they do, lol.

also ta Crunch, My suggestion was to get someone else to pull it apart and to go through it, maybe its something you are missing, but to you im some prisioner in wacol (how you come to that conclusion i'll never know)

ermm it says that actually

Um...... no

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?
DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?
DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?
DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?
DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?

THAT MAY BE THE PROBLEM.. WHAT DO YOU THINK!?

I have reinstalled HDD....i bought a new HDD so i COULD reinstall....its a problem with the hardware....just i have no IDEA whats wrong with it....ive been having problems for probly a year and a half with it (ive had it for 2 years) and always put it down to windows problems etc and as i said i did take it back to em and it did s*** all. I have installed XP (then it f***ed up totally) so i installed 2000...which ran for a little while and then kept restarting itself (evidence of temp problem? or maybe a device conflict?) so i went back to 98 which worked for a while then last night i got a registry error which took me back to my very first registry backup (despite running it for 2 weeks and doing countless manual backups)

so yeah....:@

splat, so how might that problem happen? Maybe he didn't attach a heatsink properly? maybe a fan is stuffed? how will software correct someones inability to attach a heatsink and fan combo???

and can you read?? ffs

there is no wacol or any reference to it in the next 4 lines:
Boxhead
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i know a few guys who have almost finished IT degrees and they have got no idea whats wrong with it

Erm, IT degrees dont really teach you f*** all, and anything they do is gay for tech s***..

In my IT degree they said its COAX cable from your ISP to your CABLE/DSL modem...

Uhm, its fibre optic from your ISP to your HOUSE, from your WALL its coax to the modem.

IT degree's are s***, the true IT people are the people who play with computers and s*** all the time (i.e. pretty much the guys on these forums) but do an IT degree just to get the paper which says "yep, I'm not an incompetent f***head"

its got a fan on there....dont know much about fans and s***....and it doesnt stuff up in the mornings (when its been off all night and the cpus cooled down) so yeah thats what i think the problem is....just i want a proggie that could maybe confirm that for me....before i go out and waste my money on a new fan/heatsink...for an out of date p3 866...which may not work anyway cus the chip may be f***ed

so i installed 2000...which ran for a little while and then kept restarting itself (evidence of temp problem? or maybe a device conflict?)

Control Panel --> System --> Controls & Environment settings (or whatever it is) --> Enable Automatic Restart on system failure (CHANGE IT TO NO ?@^$#%!) that might help you figure out whats wrong with it

there is no wacol or any reference to it in the next 4 lines:

So i guess QGL ppl that are put in prison have special options to change their location? Might want to get onto that after court..

and can you read?? ffs

well.. no

loki.....thats exactly why i am posting here to get help from people who know s*** about computers

Im gettin annoyed at people who reakon its all my fault......the reseting thing also happens in win 98 as well...but im going to try reinstall XP next week so i will try that no reset on system failure thx loki :)

lol.. shutdown fireblood

Use your brain, if its a temp related problem with the CPU you have 2 things to try,
1) your thermal probe on your motherboard could have died, or is dying and is reading incorrectly, making windows go omg omg omg i have to shut down. Try the CPU in a friends motherboard and see if the temps read normal or wacked.
Or go buy one of those senfu Temp probes for $20 and stick the sensor next to the CPU core and see what temp thats reading, then mod it into you case so the $20 was worth spending :)

2) try a different P3 chip in your motherboard and see if the temps read normal or high like your existing chip.

then you will know if its the CPU or motherboard, myself id be leaning toward f***ed thermal probe. But you wont know 100% till uve tested it all.

loki.....thats exactly why i am posting here

Come back when you make sense...

I just told you to disable automatic restart in Win2k, which will allow you to see the error its giving you..
THUS you can TELL US what error it is giving you.. and we can HELP you...

If you already have disabled automatic restart, then its probably either overheating, or some device isn't seated properly and causing a reset... or somehow voltage is dropping across the board.

if you ahven't already disabled auto-restart then DISABLE IT! ...

If you have then take everything out and re-seat it. then see how you go...
Next step, take everything out, and put everything back in piece by piece trying to find the culprit.

It probably will not be a conflict as windows manages itself (this aint win95 days), and a conflict should not produce a reset. Just stops processes from working that need the device (which could be a problem)... Does it reset when trying to perform certain tasks? such as loading a game?

A omputer can steadily sit with a desktop running if devices are conflicting since they're not being used and aren't trying to interrupt each other at the same time on the same Interrupt line.

flaimbait ++

also check the core voltage in BIOS, stupid techs may have upped it or something i dont know why they would but u never know, just something i thought of just now :)

Im gettin annoyed at people who reakon its all my fault......the reseting thing also happens in win 98 as well...but im going to try reinstall XP next week so i will try that no reset on system failure thx loki :)

Just ignore them if they aren't genuinely helping.

I've suggested a few things I would do to start with.

Hoorah for loki... king of logic!
i was being serious

loki.....i didnt read your second post and im on splats gay 56k so its slow as s***....and my computer is at home so i cant try it yet....is there an autoshutdown thing in win 98 as well??

rubbachicken...you know you may be right there....i have an asus motherboard and i use the asus probe program and it reads my cpu @ 9 degrees with a max of 30 (mobo @ 29) in the bios it reads 45.....:S

thx for the suggestions fellas....i will try them as soon as i get home

Your computer should shutdown via the bios reading temperatures I would be lead to believe?

Unless your Program has an option to automatically reset/shutdown the computer at a certain temp itself...

In which case, try disabling that. 45 degrees is nothing, and your cpu should only start getting hurt at around 80-90

[edit] so automatic shutdown should be at around 80-85 degrees, which would occur in a matter of seconds if a HSF failed/wasn't present.

Oh, also, I'm not putting it purely down to heat, because a computer should shutdown on excessive heat failure, not just reset... it shutsdown to cool down/prevent damage... what's the point of resetting itself and keep running (thus not lowering temperatures/preventing damage)

#41.

Asus motherboards have a big reputation for incorrect temp readings.

my bro has a Duron 900 in an Asus A7V266-E and motherboard moniotor reads it as say 50 where its actually 41 in BIOS f***s me why, it just does.

My Abit KR7A, and my old Aopen board with a celeron 400 read correct within 1 degree :)

Have you looked at your enviornment?

The techs said it worked fine when they ran it over night. Maybe you have dodgy power in your room.

are you running a heater in your room? :D

I have a similar problem fireblood. I thought it was heat related, i have a dual PIII 933 system. My cpu's run at a constant 35 degrees after i installed a couple of FOP38's and two case fans. Seemed to fix the problem for a while, but then the problems started happening again. Pc would just reboot or shutdown for no apparent reason. I've actually put it down to my AGP slot, because it only seems to happen when i'm doing something thats graphic intensive on the system. If you can get hold of another motherboard, give that a go. Its just a matter of trial and error. Try and isolate what the problem is and replace the part.

I think it may be a IRQ/Memory Conflict....now that you guys have pointed out that it pretty much cant be the heat of the f***er...even though i will look into that auto shutdown s***. when i first reformated i noticed that my Geforce 2 and my SB Live! where on the same irq...which im sure as hell is not good i have scince fixed that but theres still a f***load of s*** on the one irq(s) but windows wont let me change it and i can exclude the irqs via bios which now that i know its not heat ill be trying.

Graffix card is fucxord?

Wolfiiee are you runnin 98/xp?

I'm running win2k and you will also find that even though bios may assign an IRQ to a device, the operating system can assign its own settings especially if your running win2k or xp. My PC only falls over when running graphics intensive applications or opengl applications for an extended period of time. I also have a dual cpu system which adds to the complexity of the equation. If and when i upgrade i'll let you know if a new motherboard solves the problem. I really havent dicked around with the problem much, but when i get home i'll up the voltage to the AGP slot and see if that will stabilise it. Might not be getting enough power to the card.

what mobo do you have fireblood?

i got an Asus CUSL2

heres link to Asus webby for specs
http://www.asus.com.tw/mb/socket370/cusl2/overview.htm

Fireblood - how about you list all your hardware and while you're at it all the drivers you're using/trying to use. It's kinda like a mechanic trying to diagnose a car not running right when he doesn't know whether the engine is petrol or diesel :)

And no that's not me taking the piss out of you I'm trying to help.

And I agree 100% with Loki's opinion of IT graduates. Book learning -v- real world. Can't beat real world :)

Oh, and make sure you list the type of PSU and what wattage it is while you're at it.

Irq channels = Pci slot the card is plugged into?

ive already done that....i know a few guys who have almost finished IT degrees and they have got no idea whats wrong with it...its completely f***ED

after you have finished uni you're ready to begin learning to become a tech. Few people are the exceptions to the rule.

yeah hunter atm anything is all good.....tech do s*** all....i took it to a tech once and there like.....i reformated the HDD...and its working FINE.....we ran it over night...and didnt glitch...f*** HEADS

there's more to your problem than meets the eye. did you seek out a reputable tech, or did you just take it back to the dudes who sold you the machinery?

DOES ANYONE THINK THAT A PENTIUM SHOULD BE RUNNING AT AROUND 45 DEGREES?
THAT MAY BE THE PROBLEM.. WHAT DO YOU THINK!?

MAY CAPS BUTTON IS STARK.

and my dual P3 933 runs @ 57deg currently. well done for getting your under 50. is your system in the OCAU database? I'd like to learn from your example

In my IT degree they said its COAX cable from your ISP to your CABLE/DSL modem...

Uhm, its fibre optic from your ISP to your HOUSE, from your WALL its coax to the modem.

1. we're not in Canberra
2. my Optus course taught me that fibre optic is a rare event in Qld

loki.....thats exactly why i am posting here to get help from people who know s*** about computers

good onya :)
I believe you would achieve greater results becoming a member of http://overclockers.com.au . These guys go out of their way to help people (for free :)

my bro has a Duron 900 in an Asus A7V266-E and motherboard moniotor reads it as say 50 where its actually 41 in BIOS f***s me why, it just does.

have you tried an updated ver of the software? I used to have the same prob.

have a similar problem fireblood. I thought it was heat related, i have a dual PIII 933 system. My cpu's run at a constant 35 degrees after i installed a couple of FOP38's and two case fans. Seemed to fix the problem for a while, but then the problems started happening again. Pc would just reboot or shutdown for no apparent reason. I've actually put it down to my AGP slot, because it only seems to happen when i'm doing something thats graphic intensive on the system. If you can get hold of another motherboard, give that a go. Its just a matter of trial and error. Try and isolate what the problem is and replace the part.

FOP38's... they're loud eh. *lots* of vibration happening there. vibration + cpu = problem.

what mobo do you run wolfieee?

I think it may be a IRQ/Memory Conflict....now that you guys have pointed out that it pretty much cant be the heat of the f***er...even though i will look into that auto shutdown s***. when i first reformated i noticed that my Geforce 2 and my SB Live! where on the same irq...

bingo

i got an Asus CUSL2

overclockings the game, Overclocking's the name

;)

Holy crap that's the biggest post I've ever seen AND it's not by trog! :)

ok well...here goes this computer is 2 years old...and my dad ordered it via Global Computer Group...so im not sure on all of the specs.

p 3 866 CPU
384 Meg SDRAM
Asus CUSL2 mobo
32meg Asus 6800 Deluxe Geforce 256 (DDR)
30 gig HDD
80 gig HDD - Segate
Dexxa Optical Mouse
Sound Blaster Live!
EZ Connect USB/Ethernet Adaptor
Acer 10/100 Network card

I dont know much else.....i really havent looked much into the specs i didnt know much about the s*** when i got it (still dont really know the excact specs and s***)

koopz :

overclockings the game, Overclocking's the name

Ive never overclocked it at all!! and im not about to start it has enough problems!!

skrbre....ive updated pretty much every driver i can get my hands on.....my registry is f***ED but so ive now lost my whole registry pretty much so ive gotta reinstall all of em again :(
gettin a real Xp on monday

Oh man... You have an original GeForce not a GF2? That could cause problems. Is you AGP knocked down to the lowest level? Try it at AGP1 (turn the AGP aperture size right down in the bios - that'll do it). See if that then runs stable.

The GeForce + Live is often problematic in the older setups.

my bro has a Duron 900 in an Asus A7V266-E and motherboard moniotor reads it as say 50 where its actually 41 in BIOS f***s me why, it just does.

think long and hard about that statement, can you think of any particular reason why the temp readings would be different for a CPU at bios and then at OS ?

Did you ever consider that loading and running an OS could easily add 9 degrees?

Did you ever consider that loading and running an OS could easily add 9 degrees?

Most people I've seen see within a 1-3 degree variation between bios and OS.

1. we're not in Canberra
2. my Optus course taught me that fibre optic is a rare event in Qld

COAX cable is s***! it's lke 64kb (voice comm rate), sif you'd be getting up to 1M on COAX (Reaching Max cable speeds).

You don't think they lay down new "lines" for nothing, its Fibre Optic? ADSL is COAX telephone line with power boosters.

If you want to measure temps in your computer, don't rely on any of the stuff that comes with your motherboard - buy a decent thermal probe (preferrably the IR type that you just point at things to find out their temp).

Asus Probe typically reports 10 degrees hotter than the temperature really is. I'm not sure if they fixed it in the latest version or not. You can confirm it by running MBM side by side with Probe.

Another thing to think about is this - temps measured by the older mobos (I think anything short of the A7V333) don't read the actual CPU Core temp - so you can add between 10 and 20 degrees to what the temp says and that is the actual CPU temp. Which is probably why Asus whack an extra 10 degrees on in probe...

One problem using the infra red temp probe Hunter - if you want an accurate reading of the CPU temp you need to remove the heatsink. And we've all seen the videos of that :)

too bad my asus probe reads @ 9...when its bios reads @ 40-45

Skyrbre....ill try find that s*** in the bios :)

Yo people thanks for all ya help....i think i found the prob.....the chipset didnt have the right drivers and s*** for it...so im gonna install those f***ers....but i got a new computer anyway so its all good :D (mmmm 128meg GF4 Ti)

how much do you want for that old mobo dude?

^bump^

sorry bro......im still keeping that computer....i did a reinstall of the whole thing...and installed mobo drivers and s***...and it didnt work....the guys that we bought the new computer off (bunch of CHAMPIONS: GLOBAL COMPUTER GROUP at Mt Gravatt(weve bought ALL our s*** from them (13 years worth)))....he said to bring my old one in and hes gonna have a look at it....so yeah im pretty much stumped...if these guys cant fix it itll be pretty much unfixable.

if these guys cant fix it itll be pretty much unfixable.

I give you 2 dollah :)


actually, I've give ya 10 bucks.


thanks for the reply

nuffin wrong with mobo....they replaced the old mobo bout 6 months ago cus the power shorted out and all my fans stoped working :S