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Topic: Carmack talks about GL2.0 in Doom 3
Denny
Posts: 1170
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Someone posted on /. that John Carmack talks a bit about OpenGL 2.0 implementation in Doom3 in his .plan. Anyway it's an interesting read and good to hear that someone is pushing a non-proprietary Graphics Library. Thanks to John and the good people at Bioware the two most promising games coming up will have NATIVE LINUX BINARIES (huzzah?). Also with those hawt driver coding ninjas at Nvidia making excellent (though closed source) drivers for Linux it looks like the day that Linux becomes a viable gaming platform is close to hand.
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Khel
Posts: 2906
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Until linux has directx support and widespread support for all hardware (video and sound and input controllers), then it wont be a viable gaming platform.
Swiss_Cheeseman
Posts: 309
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
OpenGL is a widely adopted standard. So Direct3d isnt really needed. What is needed is audio and input standards imo.
thrax
Posts: 647
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I wouldn't mined using linux it's just that i am use to windows...
Skitza
Posts: 513
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i agree with Khel.
when it does si will give it ago.
but for now.. linux just pisses me off.
Hunter
Posts: 5248
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think Carmack ought to be congratulated for using OpenGL. Not only that he provides a good role model for future game programmers.
Denny
Posts: 1174
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well there's already a set of opensource games librariers for linux called SGL or SDL (i can never remember). I think the fact that ID can consistently produce top notch games using non-proprietary libraries should make the other developers question why they don't?

I agree stuff like drivers for controllers are hard but you'll often find that a lot of that stuff is handled by 3rd party hacks in linux.
Khel
Posts: 2913
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
OpenGL is a widely adopted standard. So Direct3d isnt really needed


Thats all good for future games, but what about the hundreds of games out now that need directx/direct3d to run? Until linux can support all those games too, theres no way I'd use it as my desktop operating system.
Denny
Posts: 1175
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
WineX 2.0 has full DX8 compatibility
Hunter
Posts: 5260
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The fact that Max Payne uses D3D was a BIG downfall imo. Sure the game is great but D3D is far too CPU intensive (compared to OpenGL) and this isn't helped by the fact that the videocard market is tending towards taking the load off the CPU.
Ember
Posts: 1354
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My pc does not even break out a sweat when running max payne...that's a sad lame engine hunter...

-power
orbitor
Posts: 2020
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i'm not convinced it's DX that's CPU-bound. I have a feeling it's got more to do with lazy programming. Something Carmack tends not to do...
Frag
Posts: 562
Location: Queensland

the only thing that ever provided REAL compition for Open GL was Glide. very simple. dx has always sucked and thats just the way it is.

CARMACK IS GOD!!! :D
Mordain
Posts: 122
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
WOOT! i get to be the first to say, LINUX WOOTIES!!! LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX!!

go carmack, now can we just have more colours than brown and yellow and red?
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