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Topic: CS 1.5 Not far Off
zed
Posts: 687
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Counter-Strike 1.5 and a Half-life 1.1.1.0 patches are in their final stages and are expected to be released sometime in the next few weeks. Heres what Valve had to say:
Both updates (Half-Life 1.1.1.0 and C.S. 1.5) include the Ricochet Mod, phase two of the recently introduced anti-cheat technology, as well as various fixes and tweaks. The Ricochet Mod source, which includes animation blending and multi-serve technology, will be added to the Half-Life SDK. In addition, Counter-Strike 1.5 includes de_piranesi, a new mission created by Iikka Keranen.
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Virgil
Posts: 92
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
......... revolutionary.
Jerds
Posts: 295
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

shupt
Reverend Evil
Posts: 560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not long now till we'll be beta testing it for them.

8-)
Goa`uld
Posts: 4282
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
OH great, I have to not only download HL, TFC, and DMC, but also Ricochet, just to play CS and DoD... f***sticks.
This has to be a conpiracy with ISP's all over the world just so they get to charge more for the bandwidth.
dais
Posts: 2890
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yay
SmegHead
Posts: 239
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I thought we just had a release of HL and CS...that was pretty quick.
GeNociDe
Posts: 1713
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
o FOR f*** SAKE
Virgil
Posts: 95
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

yeah Smeghead, its not hard to add a few extra lines of code and repackage the installation file ya know :)
DeePer
Posts: 2256
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
Dear John,

Hurry up your production of Doom3 so CS can f***off and die.

Thanks.
Virgil
Posts: 98
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you never know, they may come out with a CS-type mod for Doom III... be scared, very, very scared.
[K]
Posts: 7
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you never know, they may come out with a CS-type mod for Doom III... be scared, very, very scared.


Err Doom III = Q3 engine??? = Urban Terror???
Tael
Posts: 1510
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
[K] - Doom III uses its own engine.
God
Posts: 12
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Why is CS 1.5 being released so soon after 1.4?
Cheetah
Posts: 604
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
What new features is CS 1.5 going to have?

When are they going to stop fkin updating it so rapidly.
DarkAngel
Posts: 497
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cs 1.4 was sposed to be 1.5
but the release of condition zero was pushed back so they never realeased the full thing
1.5 just enhances the graphics a bit and adds new weapons n stuff
like customisable models, molotov cocktails and a LAW, etc
it looks pretty sweet
Hunter
Posts: 4531
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
New features? CS? Since when has that ever been the case with any version of CS in the last 2 years?
OmniDummett
Posts: 427
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
"animation blending and multi-serve technology"

what are these?
mojo
Posts: 4112
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
all these ppl who hate cs, why?

pretty quick after 1.4, new features sound good.
Goa`uld
Posts: 4289
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
CS:CZ is coming out in a few weeks, so this is the version that will allow CS mod users to play with CZ customers on the same server.
DarkAngel
Posts: 498
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its just for all the ppls who couldnt be bothered goin out and buying CZ
... or finding it on a warez site
Unit
Posts: 19
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

cs on doom3, sif that wouldnt own
SmegHead
Posts: 242
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Unit I guarantee that when Doom 3 is released someone will make a CS like game on that engine. So dont worry it will happen.

Wonder why they bothered releasing 1.4 if they where going to release 1.5 a little while later? Its not like there was any big differences apart from the GUI and the jumping.

However the new changes sound good, and it will be worth a look at.
GrayFox
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hurry up your production of Doom3 so CS can f***off and die.
ROFL.
Cheers
Posts: 432
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
no chance 1.5 will be out
Virgil
Posts: 111
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hmm... I have a theory about why they released 1.4...

Every time they release a new version, its a celebration, so they have a large party with heaps of caviar and wine and stuff....

now...

the team leader slept with his secretary the day 1.4 was due to be released.. anyways, he was feeling pretty bad about it, because he would have to go home and face his wife, SO.. he decided to release 1.4, chuck a big party, and drown his sorrow in a bottle of good white wine.

Thats my theory.
Stu
Posts: 280
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
err yes virgil.. dont worry the van with padded walls is coming soon to take you away
Cheers
Posts: 439
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
lol lol sound liek the xbox game designers
Virgil
Posts: 112
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

*pouts* me no want no van with padded walls... :(
MattaC
Posts: 879
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So soon, I can still remember the day 1.4 came out.
Cheers
Posts: 443
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
1.5 will be out when cs zero is out
Goa`uld
Posts: 4299
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lol @ people predicting Doom III release will be the 'death of cs'. Didn't you people say that about RTCW, Max Payne, and JK2 aswell?
Cheers
Posts: 445
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
lol lol cs will never die with cs zero coming out the multiplayer will be aweosme for cs




go the gas mask
MattaC
Posts: 882
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
CS will always be popular. IMHO
fpot
Posts: 4832
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
lol @ people predicting Doom III release will be the 'death of cs'. Didn't you people say that about RTCW, Max Payne, and JK2 aswell?

It will be, till everyone finishes it.

It is silly saying that a single player game will be the death of multiplayer one.

Cheers
Posts: 448
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
once bill gates takes over the world everything will be microsoft so no one will have a choice
Cam
Posts: 1037
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hehe you know cs is being kiled off when Deeper hates it.
fpot
Posts: 4835
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
DeePer has "hated" CS for f***in' ages now :)

To quote "DeePer quits smoking as well as he quits CS".

(he still smokes btw :P)
MattaC
Posts: 884
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sif that will ever happen.
Cheers
Posts: 454
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
everyone says cs is dead but i always see ppl playing it at LAN's so i dont reacon it is
Goa`uld
Posts: 4304
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I understand what you're saying :P
Angelus
Posts: 76
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Who cares. I cant even remember the day CS 1.0 came out let alone that f***ed up 1.4 that forced me to download a new Half-Life patch to play Day of Defeat online
Nathan
Posts: 1711
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"Animation blending" refers to interpolating frames that aren't in models (I'm assuming)

Say you have a model, one frame its head looking forward, and then next frame (50 msec later) its 10deg to the right. IF you're frame rate is greater than 20 fps (50msec in 1sec / 20) than blending the animation would fill in incremental changes during those frames instead of being one position for a few frames and snapping to the next.

Valve havent elaborated as to what they mean by 'multi-serve' technology as of yet. We're hoping it means optimisations for running more than one CS server per computer.
zathras
Posts: 13
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
CS:CZ is coming out in a few weeks, so this is the version that will allow CS mod users to play with CZ customers on the same server.
According to my current price-lists, it's still TBA...
closethedoor
Posts: 1563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
honestly
cs will brush off doom3 just like all the other games
i dont like cs all that much but im forced to play it until i get a new pc (september)

cs community while pretty screwed up is still huge
Cheers
Posts: 461
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
u need a good pc to run cs now and when cs zero comes out u will need a better one
sKryBe
Posts: 1068
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
CS will die out eventually, but that may be five or ten years away. Basically, it'll take until a much better game with similar gameplay is released and the people who want to play it (all several million of them) have the hardware to cope.

I reckon CS 1.5 is being released so soon because they were beta testing stuff in 1.4 and 1.5 is the "real" release that was planned.
-Morgish-
Posts: 1881
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
what is there soo many cs realeases ?
Cheers
Posts: 463
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
i cant see valve releasing it any time soon
Crunch
Posts: 250
Location: Perth, Western Australia
I don't know when/what they are releasing, but since it's from Valve I'm positive it will be at the absolute cutting edge of gaming.
DeePer
Posts: 2257
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
haha, nice call.
Fade2Black
Posts: 746
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Nats when I read it I assumed the same thing.
Lobo
Posts: 138
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
cs has set the record

it will be a long long itm etill it dies out
tension
Posts: 3172
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Nathan loves cs, u can tell by his eyes =p
Torment
Posts: 1023
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Lobo, where did you get that picture ??

I want it !! :))
Exocet
Posts: 2105
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what is there soo many cs realeases ?

I dunno -Morgish-. But by reading the thread I am slightly enlightened on the fact. Perhaps you should do the same rather than just replying to a topic so you can be PostCount+1.
trog
Posts: 6625
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I reckon there's so many releases because they're finally getting closer to TF2
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 3656
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sucks to be playing an experiamental game..
mojo
Posts: 4115
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
tf2 sounds great, ey and what engine is it gonna be using or will it be a new
Hunter
Posts: 4562
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
TF2 doesn't exist. It's about as real as my sex life.
maxe
Posts: 4069
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://maxe.ausgamers.com/images/owned.jpg
DeFCoN
Posts: 525
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer about 1.5, sounds like a big change if its gonna have something to do with cs : cz.. coolies :)

cs coulda done with change since... version 1
Hunter
Posts: 4566
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Maxe, I wrote that btw, it's not an edit job.
maxe
Posts: 4070
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I thought as much.
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1163
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It is silly saying that a single player game will be the death of multiplayer one.


Quake was designed (belived it or not) as a single player game. Which is why it was so good.

Overbalancing made quake3 gay.
I C E
Posts: 1683
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
rofl @ whole thread

oh u queenlanders

quit smoking dpr, it will kill u, like ur addiction to CS
mojo
Posts: 4117
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
y live in qld when there in melbourne
Goa`uld
Posts: 4347
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
btw de_comrade is in cs1.5 aswell
Cheers
Posts: 493
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
pd_warehouser iis goin to be in it
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 111
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Great I hate to put a dampner on things but I hate updates for any of the Shaft-Life games because it usually means more lag and lower frame rates! Also bigger d/l's so Valve can force their useless new features down our throats e.g the HLTV thingy ....God what a waste of time that was :/
Azaria
Posts: 238
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"e.g the HLTV thingy "

1. dont play it.
2. HLTV was and still is an excellent idea. And its implementation and the amount of people who use it and enjoy it shows it. I couldnt go to the cpl qualifiers but managed to watch some of the games from home because of it.
Cheers
Posts: 510
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
lol slaps_forehead
Virgil
Posts: 132
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I must be a bit behind... but what is HLTV?
Neldy
Posts: 19
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

i think the reason why they brought out 1.4 and then 1.5, as well as the hl updates, out so soon after is so that they could impliment the final stages of the hl anti cheat?

had to wait to see what cheats came out for it, how they worked and such

thats what i heard ne ways..
Goa`uld
Posts: 4357
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Half Life TV is spectator server, that you use your hl client to connect to, and you can watch a game being played.
It's very clever the way it's done, it's like watching an intense movie. Because they have the camera change place to where the most interesting things are happening (it's on a delay too, so you actually go to the interesting part a few seconds before the interesting thing happens)
EniGma
Posts: 1183
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I like how the camera follows the grenades.
Cheers
Posts: 516
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
the camera work is better in waverace
Azaria
Posts: 240
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats cause waverace is the benchmark all aspire to :)
Draffa
Posts: 1176
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland

It's about as real as my sex life.
That explains soooo much
Hunter
Posts: 4588
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Half Life TV is spectator server, that you use your hl client to connect to, and you can watch a game being played.


You mean a proxy server :).
ironfist5
Posts: 49
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Hurry up your production of Doom3 so CS can f***off and die.


And if CS died, what game would all the cheating lamers move on to next?

I think its better if people keep playing CS, it keeps a lot of cheats/noobs/just general retards away from other multiplayer games.
closethedoor
Posts: 1564
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
lol
u could put it that way

or u could see it as that cs population is bigger
so therefore the amount of lame and cheat involved is also higher

oh and lets not forget the perfectly designed, totally bug free HL engine :P
Twisted
Posts: 4122
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

/me sighs

This whole BS arguement again...joy!

The only things I have seen about 1.5 is screenshots of supposed new HLTV features;

http://csnation.counter-strike.net/images/content/image_4609.jpg

The other one is here; Screenshot 2.

And the new map, which...I guess...is designed for 1.4/1.5 jumping, but it's too big and it's a huge campers map which will just make CS on Pub Servers even more camp like, IMHO.
Azaria
Posts: 241
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
screenshot 2 the guy is getting over 99fps?
FuKNuKle
Posts: 680
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it would seem.
Neldy
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
someone said something before about enhanced graphics??

but i'd doubt that affects how the engine works ?

hoax?
Cheetah
Posts: 608
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I reckon this could all just be one big fking hoax, as people have said.

Even though if it is true it probably won't happen for another 6 months.
Chubbles
Posts: 476
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
i thought doom 3 was more aimed at the single player game rather than multi. So its not likely to take over from cs anyway
DeePer
Posts: 2279
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
It will take over from CS for me, I know that much.


TF2: trog, stop trolling.
imho
Posts: 693
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
On the FPS issue;

Many verions of OGC allow you to get true FPS, without the limit of 99.

What does this have to do with it? The pics were leaked by someone linked to the official OGC development.

Great Source.
Chubbles
Posts: 479
Location: Hobart, Tasmania
no one can prove anything untill it's released
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