Cnet have posted Steve Jobs' keynote speech from the Mac thing that is happening, which features John Carmack demonstrating their new engine, running on a Mac with a GeForce 3. The quality is not astounding, but I had my Oh Face on. Oh. Go and watch it! Thanks rerun for the link.

Farrrk!, that owns so hard, did you see the character detail in the doom3 characters?? I guess gone are the days where we call them 'models' when this baby comes out...

Ahahah its so going to own

OMFG thats looks sweet but i still wouldn't get a mac

quick! somebody pass me a towel!

swwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttt

Local mirror?

aiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

crikey

Local mirror is in the pipeline....

Coming soon to www.rukh.net

FAAAAAAARRRRRKKKK

That is so goddamn sweet

Imagine playing a game like that in single player with all the f***ing lights off, headphones on with the volume cranked......

f*** me, it'll be the best s***scare since Unreal Single Player

FARK THAT OWNS!!!!!!!!!

you got scared playing unreal singleplayer
ahahahaha

wait, wait ..

ahjahahaha
ahahahahahahahahha
aahahahahahahaha, ahah, aahaha .. ahaha aha

okay .. I'm done

PS - ahahaa . ahaha

Woah

Thats...thats...woah

Wow

Did i say scare?

No sorry i meant amusement for acid =P

Seriously, the opening levels of unreal chasing that alien was pretty cool

After that it was just mindless boring killing

http://www.rukh.net for all your Doom 3 zipped .asf needs :)

Rukh's Haus

make it clicky next time for the lazy ppls =)

Im buying one of these f***ers the second it hits the beach!

Bugger the footage - no one picked up Trog's awesome usage of an "Office Space" quote!!

Hehe. Psycho? You got kids? Cause I reckon you'll have to sell one just to pay for it :).

Creepy, everyone who's ever been to a QGL has seen trog's "Oh Face" its nuthin new :P

Boy 'o boy, cant believe that was all real time rendering - pretty awesome!!
Heh, John Carmack speaks funny..mm..mm

:p

yeah carmack does a good impression of talking under water

K, just finished looking at the movie (courtesy of Rukh's site)

That's a damn cute looking engine...but I couldn't help feeling that the game is probably a very long long way off from release...since they'll need to wait for Hardware to catch up for one thing...

I actually found the demo of Luxo Jr. to be more jaw dropping...GF3 looks mighty sweet.

the only thing that didnt mercilessly rock ass about that movie was john carmacks voice...

The luxo jr thing wasn't bad, but the shadows and the lighting in the id demo impressed me more. Especially the shadows near the end of the demo with the moving light sources, light shining through slats/fans/etc onto creatures. That was just awesome.

Call me a skeptic... but I'll believe it when I see it on my desktop. Looks too pie in the sky for me...

And Carmack sounds like a total geek... not that there's anything wrong with that :)

blah - you're a skeptic ;p

The raw power of the GF3 should easially be able to handle the poly count, the free antialiasing helps, and the programmable nfiniteFX Pixel Shader(tm) should handle all of the neat per-pixel shadow stuff.

The real question is - what's it going to look like on cards other than the GF3? And how are MS going to handle programmable GPUs through DX?

I like this quote from Broussard:

In 1991 my partner Scott and I went to Shreveport to meet with id Software about the new Commander Keen engine they had written.

At a small Chinese restaurant, over dinner, a simple question was asked of John Carmack. We wondered how he was able to do such amazing things with his engines (back then - a smooth scrolling platform game engine was a big deal).

He looked up from his dinner and with all due modesty just said: "Well, I like to think I'm pretty good at what I do."

We all nodded and accepted the statement matter of factly and went back to talking about games and eating our dinners.

That statement has always stuck with me, and I've told the story many times to internal developers. I feel it's appropriate to re-tell now.

Ten years, and many engines later, it's no different.

Last night John sent a shockwave through the world of gaming that will be felt for years. We got a peek at Doom 3 - or at least it's engine.

Yup, he's pretty damned good as what he does all right :)

/applause

Thats not just a quote, thats his entire plan, which is already linked to in another news post by trog.

Not to take anything away from your post or nothing :)

I think that this quote by Brak from Space Ghost is even more relevant...

"I like Pork!"

And remember kids: "John Carmack" rearranged spells "rope the goat".

I think there's something in that for all of us.

While most of us drool, i bet most of us will have to play the game with every setting 'off' just tog et a decent frame rate...same as Q3A.

If you watch Q3A being played in high-res in 32 bit with everything 'on', its looks unbelievable, but alas, you goto a LAN (ala QGL) and check out what people are running. Vertex, blurry pic_maps and simple items. Some prefer it because they can see things more clearly, others for the big frame boost to keep the game smooth.

So unless we all go and buy GF3's for however many thousands of dollars it will be, will Doom3 end up being 'Doom3 looking like GL Doom2'?

While most of us drool, i bet most of us will have to play the game with every setting 'off' just tog et a decent frame rate...same as Q3A.

If you watch Q3A being played in high-res in 32 bit with everything 'on', its looks unbelievable, but alas, you goto a LAN (ala QGL) and check out what people are running. Vertex, blurry pic_maps and simple items. Some prefer it because they can see things more clearly, others for the big frame boost to keep the game smooth.

So unless we all go and buy GF3's for however many thousands of dollars it will be, will Doom3 end up being 'Doom3 looking like GL Doom2'?

GF3 -> US$600

thats about $1.1k here (probably more)

plus its going to be for macs first

and steve jobs is gay

If steve jobs were truly gay in every sense of YOUR word.... you wouldn't even have a GF3 so quit yer bitching

Muwhaha suckers!! You see, you are hooked, you pay big dorrah!

The Geforce3 is due out in the next month or two. The 'New Doom', on the other hand, isn't likely to see the light of day until at least 2002, I would assume. By then, the Geforce3 will be extremely cheap - going on Nvidia's usual performance, the 'GF3 Ultra' will be released towards the end of this year, and who knows what after that.

In other words, GF3 will be affordable for the average user by the release of the new Doom (hell, it could quite possibly be the low-end card on the market).

As to the 'turning everything off', the new doom is supposed to be predominantly single-player. The reason people turn everything off in Q3 is cos we want the maximum frames possible. That isn't as important in single-player, where you can more fully appreciate the eye candy :)

The thing I want to know is this:
How f***ing much?

More than your mum makes in a month :P

True Nats, but sif an id game aint gonna own in multiplayer :P

Now now hunter....

you know how the little boys get cut when you make references to their parents paying for stuff

like $2k a year insurance for silvias

*ducks*

"If steve jobs were truly gay in every sense of YOUR word.... you wouldn't even have a GF3 so quit yer bitching"

another stupid comment wher do u find them all ;)

if it wasn't for steve jobs we'd have the gf3 on pc before mac

Yep, I'll definitely have the thing cranked for singleplayer.
I dont mind if it drops under 30 when im playing sp.

but its inevitable that pro-fagets are gonna be running it like poo so they can see people easier in deathmatchs.

/me gives neff a steve job

i reckon it'd be awesome if id just forgot about the deathmatch and made it an uber coop game

yeh, cept not only 3 player co-op like dykertahorea.

sif you'd want to get past the laser things anyway

They can't say that we didnt give it a chance, I mean really .. we tried :/

yeah and from what guv said it actually got better after the frog/mosquito levels

well, it kinda did stop making me nautious .. oh ffs would you get on ICQ

oh hold on i'll have to restart to win2k

stupid rally masters keeps blue screening so i have to run 98

sifnt kiwibox, i've got like 1035 kiwipoints ..|,

you're such a kiwislut acid

wait, i beter link it just in case anyone is actually reading this drivvle.

Kiwibox is some gumby site, but it has a java instant messenging client that keeps your contact list and you can use ICQ, MSN and AOL through it.

If you actually make an account, use a referral from "AcidReign" that way I'll get more kiwipoints! :P

but its rad if you only have web access at uni or work and you want to use ICQ. It only uses port 80 and doesnt have to isntall any software so its all good.

yeah and you can read up on all the latest kiwi gossop as well

I disagree creepy you only thought it was better cause your a dumbass