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power
Posts: 2567
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #0 08:09pm 28/04/02 |
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Rommel
Posts: 1253
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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other hopeful competitor :)
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| #1 08:10pm 28/04/02 |
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eXplague
Posts: 279
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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they dont stand a chance !!! sorry
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| #2 08:15pm 28/04/02 |
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power
Posts: 2570
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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why?
i mean where did nVidia come from and it's not like SiS are a small company...they have been around for ages it's about time someone gave nVidia a kick up the arse and said stick that GF6 up ur arse! |
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| #3 08:17pm 28/04/02 |
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cerb
Posts: 1896
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ooher - AGP 8x has finally reared it's head. :D
I wonder if this is the card that Hardware.fr were referring to when they said there's a card coming that's twice the speed of a GF4ti4600... I don't think it is. Good to see, though, that the lower-profile companies are not giving up on the graphics chip market. Even if they aren't able to match nVidia, the SiS chip should be a decent low-price solution. |
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| #4 08:17pm 28/04/02 |
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pilsudski
Posts: 435
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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apparently the new xabre chip outperforms the gf4 mx 440 :) so sucked in to any people who got conned into the gf4 mx deal haha
Apart from that I was trying to find one of those pictures : Welcome to last month but have had no luck and its nice to see another offering for pc graphics |
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| #5 08:40pm 28/04/02 |
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Rommel
Posts: 1255
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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explague, you dont seem to realise the fact that SiS are just some tin-shed operations...
they're a big company, and its not exactly like there is secret to making a fast video card. |
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| #6 08:26pm 28/04/02 |
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§hotty
Posts: 1942
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You also fail to realise that none of the SIS xabre cards are designed to go head-to-head with GF4Ti's. Or any other high performance card. Only to go with low performance (cheap) sector.
Not that this sector is small :p |
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| #7 08:30pm 28/04/02 |
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EvisceratoR
Posts: 1720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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pilsudski... umm what the f*** ...
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| #8 08:31pm 28/04/02 |
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Rommel
Posts: 1256
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I dont fail to realise anything....
there is no special hold that nvidia holds on the market, other than no one else can be f***ed to do it because it is not seen as a highly profitable venture... just that simple |
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| #9 08:35pm 28/04/02 |
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cerb
Posts: 1898
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The high-end gaming market gets you recognition in the gaming sector, but doesn't often yield high profit margins. The low-end, business (workstation) market is where most companies make the bulk of their money. The thing is that the business market doesn't give a s*** if you have a flagship card that can do 100+fps in q3 at 1280x1024 at 4x antialiasing, or if you support DX8.1 or anything. So long as the drivers are stable, quality is satisfactory and the price is right, then business users will buy it. Have you seen recent SiS chips (prior to the Xabre)???!?! They kinda suck, but I reckon they sell a s***load coz they cost next to nothing.
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| #10 08:37pm 28/04/02 |
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Ad
Posts: 462
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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nvidia have just been making s***eloads on geforce cards.. they add 20fps and charge another 800 dollars and +1 on the label..
at least sis wont sell out like 3dfx did.. yay go competition :) |
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| #11 08:43pm 28/04/02 |
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Hunter
Posts: 3560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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When nVidia capitulates I will dance on their grave in my underpants.
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| #12 08:46pm 28/04/02 |
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rcsgd
Posts: 1178
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Hunter - That'll happen when the competition adopt better business tactics.
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| #13 08:54pm 28/04/02 |
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§hotty
Posts: 1943
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Competition Still rules. Low prices for everyone!
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| #14 08:55pm 28/04/02 |
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Tpyodemon
Posts: 804
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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but nvidia only had one person to compete against ... and that was 3dfx.
So realy they had to compete with a company whos idea of customer service, was to try and enforce everyone to use a property graphics api, or telling gamers that we realy didnt want 32bit colours, and telling developers not to use dx or opengl... umm what else did they do... Oh yeah instead of actualy improving the preformance of there cards, they just made it so you could use two cards at the same time. Then you have truly s*** driver support, legal action for the wrapper for it to work in openGL, oh and telling everyone that motion blur was the biggest thing on gods green earth. Then Nvidia bought 3dfx. and all rejoiced. |
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| #15 09:03pm 28/04/02 |
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Tpyodemon
Posts: 805
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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nvidia isn't actualy bad ... it has good hardware and good driver support... On top of that there beta drivers get released often for the hardcore freaks to run the "fastest" driver set at any time.
People who use beta drivers cant bitch about them being unstable. There development cycle is rather fast ... but everyones development cycle is fast ... even if 3dfx was still around (hahah asseeff) they would still be looking at a high develment cycle... Hell that is how they make money. Not to mention that games are increasing with every generation. And lastly if your bitch with nvidia lays with either beta drivers being unstable, build a bridge. If your bitch with nvidia is that they have a fast develment cycle ... sucked in for being a poor unemployed bum. Hobbies are expense, computers are a expensive hobby. |
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| #16 09:07pm 28/04/02 |
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Tpyodemon
Posts: 806
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and then ...
:) of course i realy love the idea of multiple companys making good and fast graphic chipsets. Too much means that companies go out of business and the prices go up. But a couple of realy popular companies mean good stuff at dirt cheap prices. |
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| #17 09:09pm 28/04/02 |
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Ad
Posts: 463
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Oh yeah instead of actualy improving the preformance of there cards, they just made it so you could use two cards at the same time. yeh man! add a f***ing "ti" on the end of the card and charge an extra 300 dollars! for sure! same chip, cept they just probably pull out a few corks they had stuck in there originally.. 2 cards, makes sense.. they have 2 cpu's in systems, why not 2 graphics cards? |
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| #18 09:52pm 28/04/02 |
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doober
Posts: 1207
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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aren't people sick of 'wow big fast mega ultra chip comin out to kick everyone's asses' type stories? They never happen.
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| #19 10:34pm 28/04/02 |
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Denny
Posts: 599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeh man! add a f***ing "ti" on the end of the card and charge an extra 300 dollars! for sure! it is an entirely different prefab process using entirely different materials, obviously that material being Titanium |
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| #20 10:37pm 28/04/02 |
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MorgÏsh©
Posts: 1464
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Xabre400 clock is at 250MHz and 500MHz (DDR),
NG! thats pretty s*** clocks |
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| #21 10:44pm 28/04/02 |
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WhoopAss
Posts: 892
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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why does everyone hate nVidia? I don't see anything wrong with them.
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| #22 12:16am 29/04/02 |
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pilsudski
Posts: 437
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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its becuase most of them cant afford it ;)
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| #23 12:43am 29/04/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 1609
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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voodoo2's rocked typo. get a clue.
i once had a sis card. they r s***. slower than a lame turtle. |
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| #24 01:39am 29/04/02 |
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c0rr
Posts: 724
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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once again, morgish proves his retardedness.
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| #25 03:13am 29/04/02 |
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Koopz
Posts: 2356
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i once had a sis card. they r s***. slower than a lame turtle. compared to? compared to my GF3 a Sis315 is slow, but it sure as hell walks all over a GF2mx 200 and anything less. Sis have done well here, and deserve a little more recognition than they are currently getting. |
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| #26 08:09am 29/04/02 |
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§hotty
Posts: 1945
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Gotta LURV tall poppy syndrome.
One of Australia's healthiest national traits, which involves taking a sceptical view of people who are rich, powerful or successful, and cutting them down to size when they appear pretentiousA few years ago you were cheering for nVidia, yet now your falling over for other 'underdog' companies. At least companies new to the (semi) high performance category. Give credit where it's due, nVidia slaw. |
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| #27 08:14am 29/04/02 |
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Koopz
Posts: 2357
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I do dude... I went out and spent $1000 bucks on one of their videocards.
I back the small guys to the hilt though, the same way I did back when Nvidia stood in 3DFX's shadow. |
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| #28 08:20am 29/04/02 |
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Koopz
Posts: 2358
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever shell out a grand for a videocard ever again.
the power increase is never worth bucks you part with imo. And sif you'd brag about wasting $1k on a popular brand videocard. |
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| #29 08:29am 29/04/02 |
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excess
Posts: 129
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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first no one wanted to use another API, glide rocked
second i hardly think a voodoo1 was anywhere near as fast as a voodoo2, whats wrong with sli? 2x voodoo2s run about as fast as a voodoo3 which is prety good i think. go SiS! |
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| #30 09:01am 29/04/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 1610
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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they were slow compared to everything. i'm not saying the new chip WILL b slow, but in the past sis have been less than mediocre.
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| #31 11:36am 29/04/02 |
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Tpyodemon
Posts: 807
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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voodoo 2 cards did rock ... but that was 3dfx answer to new tech... Dodgy engineering.
I'm not saying that the end result didn't own everyone f***ing silly but it wasn't the right answer of improving the feature list. |
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| #32 02:05pm 29/04/02 |
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Koopz
Posts: 2362
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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but in the past sis have been less than mediocre. have you actually run a 315? they own dude. sure they're no GF3, but the 315 is more efficent than a GF2mx and cheaper too. |
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| #33 03:36pm 29/04/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 1611
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah i agree with u there typo.
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