I thought I'd update everyone about the progress on the CS stats on qgl, as you know we are building AusGamers for you all, with guys from all over Australia, part of the network will include a new stats system, and it will be a national system, collecting statistics from servers all over the country and compiling them into a overall stats summary.

So players that play on AusGamers servers can see how good they are compared with people on Optus Servers or players on Optus servers can see how they compare with people on Wireplay servers etc etc. Its very cool stuff. Auscstrike.com when it opens will be doing features and little comps based on these statistics.

Here are the current top 20 players in Australia based on about 20 different counterstrike servers around Aus:

Rank Name Kills Deaths Ratio Kills/Round

1 |task| spooKa 53 28 1.893 5.300
2 REPEET_OFFENDER 111 35 3.171 3.171
3 [SFP]HuntA 74 34 2.176 2.643
4 -|St. Jon|- 108 65 1.662 2.634
5 =ACT=Rated R 127 30 4.233 2.309
6 [EAC]Shameful 196 73 2.685 2.253
7 Dark Templar 176 106 1.660 2.023
8 C R A Z Y 70 13 5.385 1.944
9 ..... 51 10 5.100 1.889
10 [GMi] B 4 |< L 4 S H 79 21 3.762 1.837
11 |POO-t|Fixxxer 245 79 3.101 1.828
12 [EAC]SiKoTiC 105 24 4.375 1.810
13 [107th]_PoE 137 64 2.141 1.779
14 -|St. WRaiTH|- 100 73 1.370 1.754
15 r33t 58 19 3.053 1.706
16 #3003 112 36 3.111 1.697
17 [SoG]McFly** 262 79 3.316 1.669
18 reTard 82 39 2.103 1.640
19 aDdMaN 213 132 1.614 1.638
20 -[AoD]YoDa- 72 12 6.000 1.636

If you run a counterstrike server on the net and would like your server added to the Australian Counterstike Statistics then email me or Biggles

w00t!
One of my members is ranked 3rd.
w00tage!

see di dosn't all suck yods is a -[DI]- player now w00t :)

pretty slack term

those stats should be in a table

heh I trid, and completly b0rked the page. Obviously my brain cant function this late at night

hehehe go term :)

maybe you should make your servers use punkbusters :D

i bet half of them cheat.

theres already a crack for punkbuster

u'd know res...

Rank	Name	Kills	Deaths	Ratio	Kills/Round
1	|task| spooKa	53	28	1.893	5.300
2	REPEET_OFFENDER	111	35	3.171	3.171
3	[SFP]HuntA	74	34	2.176	2.643
4	-|St. Jon|-	108	65	1.662	2.634
5	=ACT=Rated R	127	30	4.233	2.309
6	[EAC]Shameful	196	73	2.685	2.253
7	Dark Templar	176	106	1.660	2.023
8	C R A Z Y	70	13	5.385	1.944
9	.....	51	10	5.100	1.889
10	[GMi] B 4 |< L 4 S H	79	21	3.762	1.837
11	|POO-t|Fixxxer	245	79	3.101	1.828

very very smick

email me html code? =)

i sure would, i like to see the latest cheat that some f***tard could be using agaist everyone

Another Sneak Preview...

Teams		Frags	Deaths
COUNTER-TERRORIST (3 players)	WINS = 3	8	4
VOTEMAP 18		7	2
idle.com	DEAD	1	1
Idle		0	1
TERRORIST (4 players)	WINS = 1	5	10
Pegasus	DEAD	3	3
purplemonkey		2	2
B-Raddu		0	3
no	DEAD	0	2

i reckon CS should score you on people you have crashed in a game

the whole frag thing is irrelevant

in that case it'd be a tie

whats your top score res?

mines about 9 i think

for anyone who hasnt already worked this out....

the tables you see just above are LIVE updates of the stats, you will see how many people are in the servers if there dead alive there frags deaths so on... it updates as often as you refresh.

biggles first post (5 posts up) is the stats accross all servers

theres even more then that but you'll see it all when its done ;)

i got a whole server once... it was an asian server

21/22 ppl

:)

Frags per hour would be a good way to measure people, or somthing along those lines. i loved action quakes "damage meter" as apposed to frags, that way, if you shot someone down to %1 only to be finished of by someone else, you would still get the bulk of the points (or damage whatever).

Is there any way we can see the whole list?

Interesting that the ranking is done based off frags/round.
That would disadvantage smaller servers quite a bit I imagine.
Why play on a server with not many people when it's going to affect your average frags/round even if you are godlike and can kill all the enemy by yourself round after round when you could play on a busier server instead?
Maybe frags/round shouldn't be used as the sole ranking value.
Just my opinion.

i think theres something wrong with those stats

o yes .... where r the bomb plants? hostie rescues? blah blah blah

personally, i think so far they r a load of s*** which says nothing about a player

o ... and how the f*** can u make 5.3 kills per round when u die after 1.8 kills?

something wrong there ...

makes no sense at all

gen: that is the rankings, you can search by player and get the information you are asking about

u gaybobos
lets seem some q3 stats
cs is ghey and boring

sif

I love how losers criticise things when they haven't even seen the finished product. That so ownz me :)

Saint = owned

what are you refering to saint?

WOOOT!!!!

ONE OF MY PLAYERS IS RANKED 1ST!!!!

GO SPOOKS YOU OLD DOG




The Australian s*** Kickers
|task|

phfft @ qgl stats

why don't you get the top 4 players from the ROD [GOG] server, and the top 4 from the ROD [DC] server, and finally the top 8 from QGL servers and have a war? 8on8

GOG
http://arena5.darkside.au.net:8000/csstats2/index.html
DC
http://arena6.darkside.au.net:8000/csstats/index.html

if they were links i might have cared

rofl
you people are all stupid idiots
really, you believe these bunch of clowns can beat the might of the top players in the DC and GOG members.
How dare you, bloody bunch of no name losers, qgl is a bloody newbie server, except for the occasional player that owns in like an hour, such as, [SoG]-McFly**, and [ACT]-Rated R and maybe that EAC Sikotic. The top guy on the server got 53/28, rofl. Can't believe you morons are claiming that these players are the best in Aus. How exactly did you come to the 20 players you have, did you just take the top player on each servr and stick his name there, pfft. Different servers have different quality of players, this whole news piece is BS.

if you could read, he said over 20servers

its not just qgl


open your eyes and you might understand abit more

stats are for s***kunts who play too much, nuff said.

omg, phalanx takes the cake as the stupidest person in aus thats for sure

LOL and once again we have stupid people criticising the stats when they haven't seen the finished thing :)

resilient. what is your point?
i didn't say it was "just qgl"
heh

btw i agree with phalanx

Player: [TS]-snipe

Kills: 12
Deaths: 10
Rounds: 15
Ratio: 1.200
Kills/Rounds: 0.800

Player: [TS]-Phalanx

Kills: 5
Deaths: 4
Rounds: 7
Ratio: 1.250
Kills/Rounds: 0.714


hahaha yeh I'm sure you do

rofl
your all a bunch of stupid idiots, if you actually read and understood my post you would know that i did not mean that this is just from one server *@ resilent*, all i'm saying is that if you have server full of quality skilled players they would most likely beat the best out of some other servers. Since this person has posted 20 players i'm assuming he went to 20 popular server stats and took the best person of each and then added them to the list. Take the qgl server, basically full of people who got cs for xmas. Now the top person in that server wouldn't have to try to hard to become the best in that server *newbie factor*. But take a popular server with skilled players * ROD PC* you would have at least 100 ppl from that server able to rape the top person on the newbie server.
*@ term* your plainly someone who has got problems, first off all you judge people on the spot for a comment, thats just my view so don't post BS about my post, plainly your a f***ing dumbs*** who couldn't think of anything intelligant to say to me, or what you were trying to achieve, insult me.
*@ Saints* pfft, critising, i'm writing my opinion about the news post not the Ausgamers stats you stupid moron.

anyone could put a name such as *[TS]-snipe* and start playing on a server and f*** up the stats, so your stupid post is totally irrevelant

so why are u posting on it?

And still you don’t get it, we haven’t gone running around 20 different server stats pages and collect the top 20, the stats from these servers are placed in a database and the results are generated.

To just criticise something that you cant understand is pretty silly, I'm sure you think that the server you play on is 'the best' server, doesn’t everyone? An easy way to resolve that of course is to get the admin of that server mail me and we can start gathering stats from it too, it will be quickly apparent if you are correct or not.

For you to call people (just about everyone here) idiots because YOU cant understand something that was posted is not only dumb but ignorant

i wants it now!!

you dont want yours peacekeeper, they aint to good :)

I'll give them to you when your doing a bit better

LOL oi

ill show u all..one day..u'll see..

Well then post the god damn servers ffs
I'm simply calling you *Term*, resilent and Saints idiots because thats what you are, you still don't understand what i mean and by the way it looks you still won't get it for a very long time. How long have these stats been up ??? i'm only given certain infomation and thats what i base my opinion on, so to call a person dumb and ignorant for not knowing *anything* about these *stats* is dumb and ignorant of yourself.
List the servers
wouldn't surprise me if they mainly consisted of Paradise and qgl servers
*@peacekeeper* he needs to be told

well infact term, that was the first time I have ever visted your "server", it was on nuke.. and it was like 4on8 or something similar.. i was only there to check it out. if you want to test how good we are, organize a war with us? besides, i wasnt trying to point out that i am some ownage player, your attempt to proove that i am NOT by posting my score from playing for 10mins is quite pathetic actually.

and now that you are trying to make me/the clan that i am part of look like newbies, i am forced to proove that we arent. from what i can quickly find on ROD server stats

nick, kills, kpd, rate
Phalanx 391 129 3.03 2008.9
Phalanx- 98 40 2.45 1527.8
[TS]-007 120 51 2.35 1520.3

Who's the moron who thought I was talking about him? I can't recall seeing your name anywhere in my post Phalanx.

/me thinks phalanx is having illusions

when did i ask u anything phalanx? all i said was i wanna see my stats coz its fun j00 f00l. :)(

this is getting boring fast
i'm right
your wrong term
thats it
i'll never read this forum again so don't even bother posting, but thats your thing isn't it, wasting your time. Much like this Ausgamer stats bs
so its all based around the kill / per round is it ???
there are so many faults with that i won't even start *probly take another 60 posts with all the bs on this site*, its nearly as bad as the theclq stats, ffs.
* if a player owns a newbie team on a newbie server, say qgl, then he would obviously take alot of kills per round, say 7. Now this person never plays under that name again. I don't see how these stats correctly portray the true talent in the Aus community. The whole stats is wrong and if anyone of you mindless morons and half a mind you wouldn't bother with this Aus stats.
Now may i bring up [SoG] 896 Kills 275 deaths Thats is 3.26 kills per death, and your apparent number one player in Australia has a kill ratio of 1.8 53 kills, and 28 deaths, need i say more.

It's people like phalanx that make me sick...abusing people for making an effort to help the community. (Especially when he made an ass out of himself assuming it was just the QGL server).

Besides which, SAS recently beat DC in a close game and they mostly play on QGL.

gg moron

Phalanx: After critising Term for make a judgement about you without knowing you you then go and make similar judgements about Term, Saint and resilient.
As for the stats: I do get what Phalanx is trying to say. Or at least I think I do.
Comparing stats between different servers while fun maybe is pretty flawed in practice. If all the servers had roughly equal number of players with a roughly equal spread of skills it would be fine.
Of course that's not how it is. Ranking by frags/round is a particulary suspect measure IMO. Whilke it wouldn't be much better maybe using something like frags/round/players (either one one team or on both teams). That at least allows for both large servers and small servers.
It doesn't of course address problems where you might have a server of really good players and a server with not so good players.
The whole stats thing is a pretty hard to get "right" I know. There's probably no perfect solution. As you've said we haven't seen the final product yet but hopefully my thoughts might give you some further insight into it. Just trying to help :)
(if you like I could try helping to work on the stats system)
Looking forward to seeing the final product.
As long as I'm ranked #1 due to my awesome awping and general leetness ;)

not to mention that the server he is calling a gumby server is the one he gets slapped down on

Player: [TS]-Phalanx
ID: 9398
Kills: 5
Deaths: 4
Rounds: 7
Ratio: 1.250
Kills/Rounds: 0.714
Last seen on: AGN CS1

Stats can be seen on a by server basis, so you can see who is specificly better on a server, or available global, wether a player desides to use global (australian) rank is upto him, we are just doing it cause its cool.

Current servers that are under the stats:

All Optus servers (7 server)
All Wireplay servers (6)
3 independant servers
and All AusGamers Servers

Cluepons for everybody!

those 10min job scores have already been explained term, take a read at what i said above about it. i would prefer if you explained to me how a person with those stats is "#1 in Australia" ?
don't worry about if we played for 10mins and got killed.. the point of the argument here is the stats, not OUR stats-how about you stop bringing up BS that has already been accounted for.
if you are going to post a comment, try to make it relevant and stop repeating yourself. moreover.. the server was referred to as 'newbie' not 'gumby', but i guess it can be described as gumby as well if that's how you think of it

heh, phalanx, i'd say you're fairly pathetic if you need to judge your skill by stats, if you were actualy any good you'd know you are and be content with that. obviously your insecure if you have to resort to acting the way you do. stop being a child.

no, i haven't read the post carefuly, and if you read this i'm sure you'll try to point out that they were in the wrong first or something childish.

oh, i'd hardly call qgl newbie at all. qgl/regen have probably been around longer than you've had a computer/internet connection, plus it's run by excellent people (term, saint, the lot of them), played on by good people, and guess what? none need blow their own horn, because hey, it's a game, the community that the game brings together is what's important.

heh, not exactly a response, but i felt you needed enlightenment.

right. so the server/s that i have been referring to are not part of your little fiasco. have you noticed lately that the most dominant 3 clans in australia have their server hosted by ROD? meaning that they play there in wars, and regularly for practice. by not having these servers included, you are eliminating the best clans and players from being deemed the best.

FEEL THE BURN!!!!

Snipe, who's excluding what? Term said, right in the original post, that if you want those servers added, they can be added.

I don't really understand why you guys are being so abusive about this; this is a new service that is being provided to making gaming better for players all around Australia.

{OK!!}

can you guys stop whining!

wait untill the page opens and then you can spank over out good it is (i find the stats too have alot of usefull info and i hate cs)...

If you notice though there has been additional information added to that stat, that is what server the player was seen on last.

I dont care what you two think, your site is evident of what respect you show other people....

No stats are perfect, there are always people that may object to some part of them.

Rather than whining about it in the first place, why didn't you politely suggest we contact the people in charge of the ROD servers to see if they would like to be added?

i am disgusted at these ungreatful f***ers.
i feel like apologising to the qgl admins for being a cs player. no wonder the cs players are hated so much.
term etc are doing so much for cs gamers and they practically hate the game, and you TS c***s still abuse them!
how f***ing dare you.
the only thing we have learnt from their input is that the clan [TS] are s*** eating newbie f*****s. go f*** yourselves.

Just wanted to jump on a bit:

have you noticed lately that the most dominant 3 clans in australia have their server hosted by ROD?

Can you name another provider who provides clan servers? I sure can't think of one.

Your elitist bulls*** is unnecessary and entirely against the point of the system Term and co have been talking about. A national stats system would allow a CS player anywhere in Australia to play on a server and have their states collected in a central place. In addition, server admins don't have to do anything with regards to stat pages, etc.

I know the guys working on the system have put a lot of effort into the system, flaming them because of your elitist beliefs over 'which server is better' is immature and unnecessary. Grow up.

Saint, i didn't know whether the ROD server were or were not part of this stats system
saVage, thanks for the constructive critisism..
Term.. exactly, no stats are perfect and I was simply pointing out the part I don't like about yours. it's not only me - a lot of players who are 'ownage players' would be quite pissed off to not see themselves in the top20 cs players in Australia etc. anywho sorry if I offended anyone.. i was simply stating my point of view
Nathan, the whole point of this argument is so what you are saying can be true. ie "allow a CS player anywhere in Australia to play on a server and have their states collected in a central place" - but i doubt the ROD servers will be a part of it if i dont even ask? by the way.. it's not about which server is better, i get a excellent ping on qgl as well as ROD.. i am simply saying that from my point of view the best players can be found on ROD... once again sorry to offend, it wasn't meant to be like that.

Well you can blah blah you blaggers until the cows come home.

It still doesn't change the fact that cs is being treated as f***ing quake with guns.

Frags per hour
Kills per minute

It proves me exactly right that there is very little teamplay on a game that by it's very definition is a team oriented effort.

Bull s***

All this cs s*** doesn't mean a thing to me because those top 20 people or whatever, they can kill a lot of people, who f***ing cares....

It's teamwork that gets the bomb planted

It's teamwork that gets the hostages rescued

Not 2 or 3 shining f***wits with aimbots or a good eye that wins a map.

The objective is work as a team to complete the objective, not eliminate the opposition.

Let's see you s***kunts do THAT in real life with a whole colombian army staring down your throat with reinforcements on the way.

My 2 cents and you c***s will prove me right by abusing me =P

nuff said

it is a team game, but they need to be able to kill to win :P

thus u all want l33t killin' machines like me in ur clan *hint* :P

lo yeti :D

yeh im the SoG guy phal :)
and upon looking at the top 20....i can smoke all those newb's, shesh

hmmm rated r is the only one there that gives me the willies

*yawn*......flame me

*sprays self with newb flame repelant*

lol blink

hrm these stats dont really show opponets skill :D

also im all for the war between top 4 on GoG and DC servers vs top 8 on qgl servers

even 6 v 6 would be fine :D

-[GMi] L O K i

also id like to point out the #1 guys stats
53kills for 28deaths

that is liek 1 map, probably against fairly ordinary CS players, also that is not an 0wnage score, as i myself have scores of 44-2, 41-1, 56-6 against newbies lol

I can't believe something as simple as stats could cause this much s***.

If I only know one thing about the guys here at QGL that is that they are always as helpful as they can be.But to be honest I can't at times see why they bother because of dicks like Phalanx and co.

What I think is happening here there are a couple of guys(Phalanx,snipe)that have over inflated views of themselv'es and are now dirty that their stats won't be included from the servers they choose to play on.Mind you if they had read the news story on this ppl were asked if they wanted a server included they only had to ask.

Well Term,Saint & Nathan I say f***em with the piss poor attitude these dick heads have displayed in this thread you should give them 5 ths of f*** all.

If you wankers don't like it f*** off I like this site and pretty well all the ppl that work on it and visit it so I'm with them.

|...told...|

Just another thing you wankers prolly think your realy elite and that the QGL and even SA servers are full of newbies,but I'd like to see yas take on some of the better players that frequent those servers you'd get slappped.

wow loki those scores are pretty impressive agaist newbies


I WANT TO BE LIKE YOU!

sif you'd have any idea what's a good score and what isn't anyway res

yeah :)

had to come back and read what you guys wrote, so funny. Really its my opinion, i don't know exactly what your doing posting s*** about me and snipe, we're just adding opinions and I quite frankly don't give a s*** about what you guys think of them.
-Taipan- Its not to do with my or snipes stats, *already explained*, its to do with this comment that Term wrote *Here are the current top 20 players in Australia* pfft. Also i'm critising how the stats account the best ppl in Aus, Kills per round is total BS, but again i've already EXPLAINED this in previous posts, it seems to me Taipan that you been looking forward to this Aus stats and can't face the reality that its bs in recording good members.
If you want more reasons why the stats won't work in showing the better players in AUS, which i belive is there aim *Term likes to f*** around with everyones words* post another reply here listing your questions or even better still read the previous posts that HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS!!!

resiliant the point i was trying to make, that server stats need to take into account the quality of the opposition. I wasnt bragging about my scores ffs

-[GMi] L O K i

Phalanx If you have a problem with the way something is being done wouldn't it but better to be contructive rather than just call ppl stupid?Hmmm I think SO!You never know you may just get what you want if you'd tried to be nice about it.

Don't bother wirting back with some dumb arse reply trying to make yourself look like some kind of hero.Everyone here has you pegged for the wanker that you are already.So go back to the dark little hole you crawled out of,hopefuly you'll disappear up your own arse and we'll be rid of one more d*******.

arrrrrr dont get me started taipan, you a dial up? you remind me of dial ups who piss me off about their 'lag'
i've played on AXG and few other servers
yeh loki's right too...NFI have mad stats that go by skill of your opponents, erm....havn't played on NFI in weeks though hehe.
soz but its all about population
there are more people in NSW and VIC then the other states so the odds are that we'd get better skilled players and more of them.
there is a borderline however.....i play on US servers abit and i dont know whether im picking the newbie ones of not but the 20 pingers there really suck vs 360 ping blink >:D
you'd think with their pop they'd have an army of gods
*sprays extra coat of anti newb flame repelant*

get back in your cage Taipan
again you have missed the point of the post totally. I don't believe you intellect could manage to comprehend that very simple post. Don't post crap like *everyone has you pegged as a wanker*, just because my perspective on the Ausgamers stats is different to many people, like yourself, does not make me a wanker. Obviously you are a bit obsessive about qgl * 388 posts* come on, get a life. If you can't handle it, have a cry, just don't tell me about it k.
I believe my critism was constuctive and it has made its point. Thick heads like you just can't come back with a decent reply thats worth reading. *So go back to the dark little hole you crawled out of,hopefuly you'll disappear up your own arse and we'll be rid of one more d********, rofl, was that meant to cut me up, children these days

Blink I have optus cable what the f*** dial up has to do with me god f***ing only knows.And if you want to get into numbers to do with state population QLD has the highest number of PC,s per head of population in AUST.Just another thought for you to Blink England has roughly 4 times the pop of Aust but it doesn't stop us from giving them a hidding in just about every sport there is does it.

Phalanx I don't give a flying f*** what you think of the stats,my bitch was the way in which you voiced your some what piss poor views in such an abusive manner.Noone here was abusing you to start with so thats a problem you created for yourself.And by the way if your gonna sling s*** get your own matirial.

Just admit it you guys a crying because you thought you'd miss having your stats collected ffs like stats mean f*** all anyhow,just play and enjoy the game instead of stamping your feet like the spoilt little bitch that you are.

Didn't i say Taipan that if your going to have a cry, i don't want to read it. Anything get through that little head of yours ffs.
Its not about my stats or Blinks stats you stupid moron. Its about claiming that these 20 people are the best in AUS, so don't get in a hissie fit when someone voices an opinion on it, ok, DO YOU UNDERSTAND. Want me to make this post a little more simpler for you to understand * Taipan thinks- understand - big word, my head hurts".
I do enjoy the game Taipan, i play for fun, not for the stats, i was just disgusted to see ppl posting the top 20 players in AUS, when it was based around 20 servers. BUT ONCE AGAIN I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS TAIPAN. Reply with some relevant critism or comment, and f***ing read the posts that have been posted before ffs. *Puts Taipan back in cage*

You seemed to of missed the point I was trying to make I don't give f*** what you didn't like about the news item.However I think your a f***ing COCK HEAD for starting to abuse ppl here,if you had just politely informed them of your point of view this arguement never would of gotten to the point that it has now.

But no you come to this site and started jumping up and down abusing ppl like whining little school girl.FFS did you ever think that if you talked to ppl with a little more respect then you may have just abit more success getting your point across.All you have done now is cement your postion at the top of the all time f*** wits list.Your point if you even had a valid one was lost in all of your perthetic and ungrounded abuse toward ppl here that didn't deserve it.

Do us all a favour pull your bottom lip over your head and swallow.I won't be back to this thread as I can tell your just the sort of f*** head that loves to get the last word,well not this time.

your a perthetic little boy.

LAST WORD

care factor 0
stop typing with one hand

hm interesting to see ur still here with that care factor phalanx ;D

pfft has anyone topped my 500+ knife kills?

would have been nice to have it at 666 but nooo :P

and for those who still dont know yet

Nob IS God :)

*hehe go Taipan QLD rox*
** I don'T* kno*W what's* with the **over use** of the ***astericks's*****

No but seriously, Phalanx just had a whinge because there is no site as big as QGL where his stats are displayed

:*( poor bubby

With the QGL Server Stats covering the Optus @ Home servers, Ausgamers and a couple of others, I would count that just about best in Aus anyway.

Now obviously, and you have to be stupid not to notice this, you just want to be recognised for your ***skill***

That is as plain as day.

So what can you do to fix that?

Well, A) you can play on one of those *20* servers around Australia and play the majority of Australia, just not one contained group of not-so-newbs to the point where u know there personal style.

Get out of ur contained 3-server world, and play with a variety of people, and see how you go. And perhaps along the way you might get your stats recorded on the QGL web site, and maybe even in the top 20 - but only if your as good as you imply you are.

oh and B) -- or u can zip up and put up

Once again another stupid f***wit has come on this commentfest and posted questions to which answers have already been givin in previous posts by me and others.

Finno- there are 6 ROD servers, variety max, I also tend to play in NFI and SD servers.
My stats are not the issue here *for the third time*, what really is pissing me off is that some fags have got cs like 3 months ago and they think there top s*** and know everything about the game and the cs communtiy, ie Finno.
You obviously do not know who are the current best clans in Aus, and yes the best clans in AUS have also the best players.
How long have you been playing Finno ???
How much have you played Finno ???
Have you ever played in a ROD server ???
Do you even understand the concept of "clan" ???
Do you know any of these clans , SoG, DC, ACT ???

i give up taipan

i already said that heaps of US players suck and they have way more than 4 times our pop
your england thing proved my point again
and of course population is one element
another is lifestyle and competition
(but then again i played newbs my entire life as a dial up on lab cs and lexicon...i was scared of people from netspace cause i thought they were gods hehe)
which brings up another element.....natural skill....*yawn* im falling asleep

my final words before i start spamming "HEV" alot are.....cant we all just get along?....of course Melb has to be accepted as the city of gods.....we can produce legions of gamers muah hau hau hau
know kneel!!!! kneel before VICTORIA!! KNEEL AND BE COUNTED AS SLAVES MUAH HAU HAU HAU

yer i dont use newb flame repelant anymore cause it doesnt work on people like taipan :\
ok on with the HEV SPAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

OOHHHHHH OHHHHHHHHHHHH YER YER THATS IT!!
YOU GOT HEV? I SAID HAVE YOU GOT HEV!?!?

Blink your newbie repelant doesn't work on me PAL because I ain't a newbie.And don't get on the Vic's bandwagon I was born there and while I like the place Qld is f***ing great.Oh and by the way I didn't prove your point about population I rebutted it,you said that you must have the best players down there purly because you have a bigger pop,while that made be a good point in a perfect world incase you haven't noticed this isn't a perfect world.

By your way of seeing things England and the US should flog us but hey they don't particularly not England anyhow.

So-to someone who made this new ausgamers stat system-
Does it work based upon a players name? IP? what..? Beacuse if it is on name means fags will go round posing as some fella who is up the top, dragging down his stats in the process.
Also- those top 20 at the top - were WP servers included for this one?

i thought you left Taipan ...
*puts taipan back in cage*

tackleberry: Yes all wireplay servers are included, and as too wonid v player name, there are problems associated with using both approches.

Currently we are using player name simply because it is far easier in terms of programing. However I *think* we will be moving it to wonid at some stage in the future. I'll ask and someone will post more on that... but you will be able to see them in about a day or two when Auscstrike opens anyway

What are problems associated with Won ID?
It seems a far better approach than player name... but I could be wrong...

phalanx, taipan is right, you're a whiney little bitch who thinks too highly of himself.

Well I'm only guessing here but I would say that the problems with using the WonID rather than names are
1) I doubt the average person knows their WonId. If you used WonId as the primary key then you might have more than WonId with each name (in case people use the same name as you) and you wouldn't be able to easily know which record was yours unless you know your own WonId. Also if played from another machine than your own then none of that would count towards your stats as it would use a different WonId.
2) You would be the only person that could really use your own machine. If other people use your machine and even if they chaznge anmes they would still be affecting your stats.

Now it would be possible to fix point 2 by distinguishing by both WonId and name as a combined primary key. This wouldn't help with point 1 though. You would still only be able to play on your own machine for the stats to count. I doubt there would be a way to "link" different records to the same main record.

What that would need would be if HL had a proper username:password login.

On another topic sort of: Term, are the CS servers at the lan going to logged for stats too? That would be cool.

Apparently logging doesn't work properly with WON ID. Every second person who joins has their WON ID shown in brackets .. the others simply aren't shown afaik. This could be a bug with Half-Life.

To celebrate this topic hitting 100 posts, I would just like to state that the new AusCStrike stats are gonna rock the CS community - bigtime!

I have had the privelage of seeing a preview of what is to come, and you stats freaks are gonna explode with happiness.

No s***, what term, cold and biggles have done is f***en amazing.

Not long yet until all is revealed...

Well then. That sort of puts a damper on the WonID thing :)
Shame really.

Still wouldn't mind seeing the stats system used at the LAN as well :)

rukh is a small-town hick who couldn't shoot straight if his life depended on it

he can spit tobacco like no other though

Stats are gay. That means I'll have to play serious under my name ALL the time. Oh well, I'm not playing CS after Wednesday, except at the next QGL LAN, so it shouldn't be a problem :P

Skipping the last 10 posts back to Blinks:

You contradicted yourself in the same post my friend.

I am not really sure how old this is now but Phalanx f*** Off! I dont know how many people its gonna take to tell you this but "YOUR A COCKSMACK!!" Im thinking maybe 60 or 80 myself but you never know how far it is up there ;)

explain my sprinkly friend
over a bottle of hev?

Gomer you stupid lame f***er

stfu, i ain't whining at anything you dumb moron, i'm simply posting my views on the post. anyone else got a stupid comment to post about me ??? relevant factor

gooooooooooooooo phalanx! keep gettin pissed off at us! w00t m8!

Somewhere back you said that Mel and Vic has better players than QLD because of the population difference. In the Same post you said it didnt matter

na i'm not pissed off at you Peacekeeper
you done nothin to me

the way the stats r now there will be LOOTS of bitch fights about frag stealing ect ect

every player has his oun game (try playing deeper in q2) then play geno in cs there boath good players.
in every state thay will have there deepers and geno's
live with it