I'm about ready to launch this @#$% D-Link 504t heap of s*** into orbit.
Randomly drops port forward settings etc.
Menu is a slow heap of s*** that sometimes just fails to respond/only resolve is to manually pull the power on the router and plug back in.

Preferably a router with wireless capability for use with my laptop around the house.
But otherwise PC connected via CAT5.

Trying to set up port forwards again (that would only take 10 seconds if it didn't crash itself/menu take 10 minutes to update ONE change) has taken me nearly 2 hours just because D-Link routers are useless as s***.

Cheers.

Billion 7404 or get the f*** out

i also like billion, but am quite happy with the 7300g, which is a fair bit cheaper than the 7404

only because you're povo

Well i haven't had too much troubles with netcomm or netgear
but you will need to manually reset those sometimes too :/

I to want to hurl my D-Link into orbit at times.

2 ports don't work and our second wireless laptop seems to drop out randomly. Urrgggh.

Are these recommendations from you guys who frequently do port forwarding and such?
- Is the menu responsive?
- Does the router reset quickly ?
- Does the router randomly soft reset?
- Randomly drop port forward settings etc?
- Wireless capability? Y/N

Just a few of the things I'm sort of looking for.
Cheers again.

i always have ports forwarded for my torrents

set it up once (very simple) and havent had to touch it again

my router does what i tell it to, and promptly

7300g has wireless

Will that work with Optus Cable spook?

I need:

A few wired ports for 360 and printer
Wireless for at least 2 laptops

I've looked at websites on what might be suitable and it confuses the hell out me :( I hate networking.

well, its adsl modem, but you could still use it as a router;
u would still need your cable modem though

Yeah, I still have an Optus cable modem (motorola I think) so I would need it to operate as a router.

Port forwarding for torrents? Just enable UPnP ffs.

7300g is less powerful... if you use torrents a lot, lots of connections will get it bogged down.

I use the 7800N. Its a beast.

Is the OP actually looking for modem inbuilt? If not - I'd have a look at the Apple Airport Extreme.

Very sexy, works really well, and isn't too expensive.

Are these recommendations from you guys who frequently do port forwarding and such?
- Is the menu responsive?
- Does the router reset quickly ?
- Does the router randomly soft reset?
- Randomly drop port forward settings etc?
- Wireless capability? Y/N

billion 7404:
yes
yes
not really but i never need to
no
no
yes

+1 to 7404

If I could sex this modem I sure as s*** would.

Whoa, MSY have even updated their PDF to fancy colours!

cisco 877

we use an airport extreme. it's amazing having a router that doesn't screw up - no dropping wireless, no random screw-ups requiring a power cycle! and -N wireless is sexy fast / range, and of course gigabit.

I've been through netgear, belkin, linksys, and I know what you mean.. it sucks how flaky most routers are. I haven't tried billion though - so it sounds like that'd be my next attempt/recommendation - but I just looked up a comparable router and it is $70 more than this one - so they'd be the budget choice for people happy with 802.11g.

Another thing to note is there's no http interface for admin - instead you use a windows/os x app. Unconventional, but very sexy to use.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/148219/airport-utility.png

there's no http interface for admin - instead you use a windows/os x app

That would be the kind of reason I'd avoid it myself. Routers should be able to be accessed from any device with a TCP stack and a browser, regardless of platform and without needing anything extra.

The Billion 7404 range is pretty damn good. Good for novices, but has enough features to keep the more advanced users happy.

Billion is the way to go!

I have 7404VN
So it does Voip 3g and Wireless N and its awesome doesnt miss a beat and i have around 6 wireless devices and 4 LAN connections

I just bought for small company the Billion 7300N and its awesome as well... Easy to setup does wireless N and it costs $150. took 2mins to setup and i didnt have to do any restarts to it...

with 7300N i had to also change a few settings change the IP address and disable DHCP. When i have tired doing this on Dlinks and Netgrears and belkins i would always have problems with this and would have to factory restart cause would always get confused... with this router i change the ip address then type in the new ip address and it was there no reboot at all!

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Cisco 877 +1, just got mine a few weeks ago after everyone's recommendation. Worth every single cent and it would be the only router you would buy none of this new router/modem s*** every 18-24mths

7404 or gtfo here as well

http://www.ozcableguy.com/review.asp?router=7404VGOM&model=Billion-7404VGOM

Sounds like a 7404 is overkill for me.

All I want is something to plug in that supports at least 2 LAN and 2 wireless) and forget about.

The wireless is mainly just internet so not high traffic/volume stuff.

7300g might get the nod.

Sounds like a 7404 is overkill for me.

When Moses climbed to the top of Mount Sinai (fact) did God give him three commandments? Or five commandments? No, he gave that motherf***er TEN commandments on a massive marble tablet that he had to carry the f*** back down the mountain.

7404. Do it.

Wow. I should be in advertising.

Also Viking PCI ADSL2+ Card + firewall ditro of choice cause the card handles the pppoa/e connections and presents it up as a Ethernet interface to the wan side of the firewall

Also Viking PCI ADSL2+ Card + firewall ditro of choice cause the card handles the pppoa/e connections and presents it up as a Ethernet interface to the wan side of the firewall

Say what? What's the benefit? I don't get this. Is this like a router in a PCI card or what? How does it handle nailed-up connections?

I thought he was given three plaques each with 5 commandments but he dropped one, hence the 10 commandments.

I'm sure 'History of the World Part 1' would be accurate.

Pinky have a read of page 127 of the manual under

NAT Routed PPPoE network configuration

http://www.traverse.com.au/downloads/adsl/viking_cli_config_guide.pdf

pppoa is not transportable over Ethernet from memory

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Herbal why'd ya go for the Viking?

weren't you using Dynalink internals a while ago?

*edit* actually you prolly already answered that

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7404 is overkill? Wtf? I bet thats what you said last time you bought some f*****y piece of s*** router thats not a kick arse 7404

Yeah I was running a an rta1320 which was a temp measure until I got my 877, the viking was used in a cpe fixup. But I bet it will spark your curiosity, beside the manual explains it in detail, actually would have to be the best manual for a dsl product I have ever read

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I know what you mean with the 504T. Probably the least cooperative router in the world. I have one of those at home along with a DI-524 for wireless. The 524 isn't as bad as the 504t but still has its moments. For work we use the Billion 7300N at all our office installs. It has a great interface that is very responsive, it's great with port forwarding, has the least troubles with wireless dropouts so far... basically no issues with it.

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I swear there needs to be a special portion of hell set aside for the dlink engineers who will be forced to troubleshoot their little bastard abominations for all eternity

504T is the biggest piece of balls ever invented. ISPs that recommended this router should be disconnected from the intarwebs.

7404 is overkill? Wtf? I bet thats what you said last time you bought some f*****y piece of s*** router thats not a kick arse 7404

lol I've never actually bought a router.

But if this is the biz I'll go for one of these - will that make you all happy?!?

No, but I sent you a PM with details of my happy if you're keen.

Heres a tip. Why do you need port forwarding?

linksys

heh, I don't even know what port forwarding is.. so I can safely assume I don't need it.

Heres a tip. Why do you need port forwarding?

That looks more like a question than a tip.

ITS BOTH.

At best, its a hint as well as a question.

upnp doesnt work for me and utorrent, never has

i forward ports, and it works a treat

I had to forward ports to use a particular torrent tracker :/

Bet your getting great performance with your port forwarded torrents

Cisco 877, the IOS is fairly simple to configure. Nothing really beats them imo.

Some s*** doesn't work without port forwarding, like old school online games (StarCraft for example).

Bet your getting great performance with your port forwarded torrents

i max out my adsl2 connection (about 1.5m/sec)

Thats not really that crash hot, you'll find if you change it up you'll triple that performance easy

Billion 7401 here. I believe the same as the 7404 except cheaper and 1 VOIP port instead of 2.

Never got around to trying a router with fxo/fxs ports how to they flare

I gave my dlink router to my mate, he used it for about a year and then gave it back :( I now use it as nothing more than a 4 port switch. I love my WRT54G with tomato firmware, there's more options than you can poke a stick at and the content filtering is awesomesauce.

Thats not really that crash hot, you'll find if you change it up you'll triple that performance easy

my connection is maxed at 1.5m/s, thats as fast as she goes captain

Speaking of wrt54. anyone running ddwrt on vmware, out of interest. Also that sucks spook

I got a linksys wrt320n, maybe should have gotten the model up for dual simultaneous radio but was double the price. The cable modem feeds 90Mbit internet to the linksys, the ethernet can handle it, mixed mode wireless including N maxes at ~30Mbits, n only in 5ghz maxes at 50Mbits. Performance ok'ish but lately it has been freezing being unresponsive so cant recomend it at all for reliability.

I'm a Billion fan.

On another note an American friend was telling me she was having problems with her "rooter" a while back, took me a while to figure it out.

Billion 7404 or get the f*** out

The 7404 is a great modem, pity it sucks the most balls in the world with iiNets VoIP that i'm actually probably gonna replace it with something else thanks to some problems between iiNet / Billion.

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Billion 7401 here. I believe the same as the 7404 except cheaper and 1 VOIP port instead of 2.

I've had 2 x Netgear routers, 1 linksys and 1 D-Link.

The first netgear was awesome but 4 port switch packed up after 7 years of use.

2nd netgear router only still kickin on after 5 years very reliable

Linksys router is around 6 years old as well works great only had wireless drop out once that required a reboot. Only problem with it is had a little querk of needing to be rebooted twice if phone line gets DC and then reconnected. Still using it now.

The D-Link lasted less then one day and im not joking. Print server on the thing never worked and after a few hours the 4-port switch was completely dead. When I returned it there was another guy there doing the same with the same router. I switched it for the 2nd netgear router i have.

As far as im concerned you should be happy with anything as long as its not a D-Link :)

pity it sucks the most balls in the world with iiNets VoIP

nope
just you sux
i have both iinet and pennytel voip lines running through my unmolested 7404 and they've both been ticking over like a gold watch for two years now

yeah thats right bitches i've completed a 24-month contract on naked dsl
find me anyone here who's had ndsl longer than me

u must suck at uploading

negatory
maybe i use usenet not p2p
maybe you suck

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I use a Cisco 877 and they're great little units.
Very reliable, easy to configure, lots of debugging functionality and they don't need to be rebooted for config changes.

If you need wireless there is a Cisco 877w model but AFAIK it's a little flakey. Though I haven't really played with them at all.

Only issue I've had with my 877 (and I wouldn't believe it if someone told me) was that it literally lost its config one day.
We had a power outage and the thing had a default startup config when it was powered back up.
It reconfigured ok and I've never had it happen again.

billion 7404

billion 7404

Yeah, this again. And again, and again. Every time.

Pffft.
Cisco trumps Billion any day. :)

As an 877 owner myself, the billion 7404 admittedly does a really good job at its price point

If you need wireless there is a Cisco 877w model but AFAIK it's a little flakey. Though I haven't really played with them at all.

I've got 3 x 877's and 1 x 877w+m
all of them are rock solid, the 877w is an 877 with an extra dot11radio interface basically, it's no more or less reliable than the non-W model

there is also the Cisco 527W which is coming out very shortly, more of a residential grade unit than the 877 which is aimed at small business (but they'll tell you the 527W is for small business and the 877 is for medium sized, whatevs)
I can't find much on the tubes about it but my dudes at Cisco assure me it's coming to Australia within the next quarter

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=8872