Just moved from Telstra 60gb ADSL to Optus cable 30gb due Telstra dropping out 10 times a day. I'm happy with the speeds and quality of Optus cable but 30gig is not enough. 4 comps are pulling about 1.5gb/day and we are being shaped much to early in the month than that is acceptable.
Now my solution is to get a ~$50 Adsl plan on the side for Utorrent, Myspace and Youtube. This leaves the cable for solely for gaming and light browsing.
What is the best way to set this dual connection up? I was thinking a standalone server for downloading/Youtube with the adsl connection and using a "Remote access-like" setup so anyone on the network could gain access remotely.
Ideas?
Foreseen issues?

Why not just get the 150GB plan from TPG for $70 a month?

phone lines not so good....

Zylox I'm in the exact boat as you. Phone line doesn't have enough copper wires or something along those lines to handle ADSL2+ so I'm stuck with ADSL1.

This is going to suck but I suggest going ADSL1 with tpg, $70 for 80gig. When you game you have to make sure nobody is watching videos/uploading or it will increase your ping into the hundreds.

We've managed with 3 desktops and 2 laptops on ADSL1. We have some basic ground rules, like no downloading massive files before 12 midnight, use offpeak if you can, no uploading before 12 midnight etc. If you have a router that enables you to limit interest speed then you can easily shape everyone so you don't get a single person eating up all the bandwidth. I don't think gaming requires massive speed.

Well I had a set-up where I prioritised the gaming ports and all was sweet in that category. The problem was frequent drop-outs, especially when it was hot. I'm not mixing Adsl with gaming for a while. I've had one drop-out on cable and I think that was cos it was in the process of being shaped.

The Billion 7800N modem/router has the ADSL2+ modem built in and an Ethernet WAN port......for configuring two connections.

you can still get the same adsl2+ plans even if you can't sync at more than 2mbit~

just tell them you know it will be teh suck, but you want the 150GB plan

I had their 150gb plan but moved, it was leet
I still used to get shaped every month but i had to try pretty hard

^^

you must have every flavour of linux ever conceived

The Billion 7800N modem/router has the ADSL2+ modem built in and an Ethernet WAN port......for configuring two connections.

Not really.
As far as I could tell by reading the manuals Iit does have an ADSL port and a WAN port but its 1 or the other, not both.

The Draytek 2820 series however allows 2 connections (1 ADSL 1 ethernet) and supports failovers, load splitting, rules based on load and or ip/port/src/dest

I don't know how you guys manage to get that many copies of Linux.. even with 60Gb and only getting HD ISOs I still need to do a mad dash the day before rollover to hit my quota.

^^

you must have every flavour of linux ever conceived

LMAO. And a LOT of g4y pr0n.

Are you sure about that teq? When I spoke to TPG they told me its impossible to get adsl2+ and ill have to settle for adsl1, no way around it. I even asked them to give me the adsl2+ plan with the speeds but they wouldnt listen.

Telstra will definitely put you on an adsl2+ plan even though you exchange may not support it. So speeds do increase to the lines max potential but nowhere near full adsl2+ capabilities.

Any more thoughts on the setup I originally posted? I'm pretty sure there's issues with 2 net connections on the 1 lan.

There's no problems with 2 net connections on the 1 LAN. But you can only have one default gateway so depending on what that is set to will depend on which ISP your traffic is sent out from.

So setup a HTTP/S proxy which has the default gateway of your ADSL router. Set all clients to use that proxy and that will handle web browsing. uTorrent also supports the use of a SOCKS or HTTP proxy so point uTorrent at that proxy as well. Leave the default gateway on your clients to use Optus for any non-HTTP/S & uTorrent traffic (ie: games). If towards the end of the month your quota is going to be exceed for one connection but you have heaps of bandwidth left on the other, then change the default gateway of the proxy.

Also make sure only one router is giving out IP addresses via DHCP.

Why not just get a bigger cable plan?

They do exist don't they?

If not, get Telstra cable :D

Do you own your house? Have you tried a central splitter?

last edited by mongie at 10:35:29 17/Sep/09

No telstra cable here. Fox is via satelite and im max GB on optus. Will look at central filter down the track and rewiring the house.

Cheers Ticman

Are you sure about that teq? When I spoke to TPG they told me its impossible to get adsl2+ and ill have to settle for adsl1,

you can't get it if they dont have a dslam with free ports in your area
if theres a dslam, pretty sure you can

but then the idea is you're range of their dslam, meaning you'll get at least 4-5mbit anyway
i'm right on the edge of the taigum tpg dslam here and i still get 5-6mbit

Are you caching anything with a proxy, how much of the 1.5gb per day per machine is the same stuff?

me?

its 90% torrenting (linux isos naturally)
I just organise my favorite search engine by seeds and go nuts

These days I'm only on an 80gb plan which is 40/40 and its shared with more people in this house, so I can't really torrent my isos here
I just download at work now, i have lots of linux isos at work

I haven't deleted anything since 2005

This may be a newb response but have you tried Internode's ADSL TwoPlus plans? They DONT need ADSL 2-enabled lines. You can get 20Mbit on them.

See http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/adsl/twoplus/faq/

Note: Their plans are worded horribly, theres ADSL 2+, and ADSL TwoPlus, you want TwoPlus (gg marketing gurus)

I meant Zylox,

What I found when my wife and I where share housing is that the other retards would have a tendency to pull down, updates both windows, mac, linux. Then they would sit there and pull down all sorts of s*** on u tube etc and once one of them would pull down something then they would of course want to pull it down again later to show the rest of the idiots at the house that same clip. So updates, u tube etc got cached. So this shaved 10gb+ a month in bandwidth.

Also a rule was made that torrents usenet etc etc got pulled down on one box and one box only, there is nothing worse than three flatmates pulling down the same copy of something at the same f***ing time!!!! So at this stage it was a smoothwall box with red, orange, purple, and green interfaces

Check the NAS first and if its on the NAS then stop. If its not then que the torrent to the torrent box, of which everyone had access to and hey they soon figured out that it was already in the que it obilouly doesn't need to come down. Add QOS, and a urlfilter and some squidy stuff and your set.

With 8 flatmates its a s*** fight, and all of this would run on a 5mb dl adsl1 connection with a 128kb up cap



last edited by HerbalLizard at 14:31:59 17/Sep/09

Why dont you just setup Wireless for the Torrenting ADSL and have the cable through a switch for Gaming.

Disable your wireless while gaming, disable your network card while downloading.