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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Nokia have released a new Linux-based mobile computer/phone device called the N900. It sounds very cool. Here's a quick feature list I've thrown together from the official site and a few other places: - 800x480, 3.5" touch-sensitive display - "Up to" 1GB RAM, 32GB built-in disk, microSD card slot - slide-out QWERTY keyboard - Mozilla-engine web browser - full multi-tasking support (meaning you can run applications in the background) - GPS (and GeoIP tagging of photos) - 5MP camera - Adobe Flash support - Bluetooth, FM transmitter - Runs Maemo, an open source Linux-based OS with all the freedom you could want. - Approximately USD$710 Check out the full tech spec list for more details, and the full feature list has more information about the phone and included software. No jailbreaking, no filtered AppStore, root access and software freedom - it sounds pretty good on paper and the actual device looks nice. |
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| #0 02:38am 28/08/09 |
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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #1 02:24am 28/08/09 |
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greazy
Posts: 1579
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The press release about the n900 said that it will be approximately 500EUR which equals ~$850AUD.
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| #2 05:14am 28/08/09 |
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 3216
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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looks fukin rad
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| #3 07:06am 28/08/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 26022
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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iphone killer
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| #4 07:08am 28/08/09 |
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 3217
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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pretty sure any phone that doesn't explode in your face is an iphone killer
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| #5 07:23am 28/08/09 |
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3dee
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Looks pretty cool actually. Prolly the best move was to go Linux instead of Symbian.
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| #6 08:07am 28/08/09 |
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 3218
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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is it just the N97 with linux?
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| #7 08:15am 28/08/09 |
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Mass
Posts: 621
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Looks like most of the HTC pda styled phones......nothing special there cept the used the word linux so Trog is already walking around like a half open pocket knife at the mere thought of it.
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| #8 08:33am 28/08/09 |
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Steve Farrelly
Posts: 1812
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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as long as they're not still partnering with douche companies like Real Player (as they have again with the N97), Jamster or Ovi |
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| #9 09:43am 28/08/09 |
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infi
Posts: 13261
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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looks pretty much like n97 except it doesn't have tilt screen, and tilt screen is seriously handy.
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| #10 09:52am 28/08/09 |
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Morax
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #11 12:25pm 28/08/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 2994
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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that looks bad ass and has some of the features that make me wonder why apple have so badly crippled the iphone :(
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| #12 12:30pm 28/08/09 |
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paveway
Posts: 10358
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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make me wonder why apple have so badly crippled the iphone it's so they can add a new feature each year so you'll be lining up at midnight once or twice a year for like 10 years until you finally have the phone you want |
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| #13 12:33pm 28/08/09 |
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infi
Posts: 13264
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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holy s*** i just watched the video and that interface is amazing.
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| #14 12:36pm 28/08/09 |
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Mass
Posts: 625
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Good Video........wonder how long it took them to come up with the circular motion zoom, at least it avoids the Apple law suit.
Still haven't said whether or not it can do Push email.....will be deal breaker for business adoption if it can't |
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| #15 12:38pm 28/08/09 |
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Midda
Posts: 3881
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Good Video........wonder how long it took them to come up with the circular motion zoom, at least it avoids the Apple law suit. Apple don't have a patent on using two fingers to zoom. The Palm Pre and HTC Hero both use the same multi-touch gestures as the iPhone. In fact, if memory serves correct, Microsoft demonstrated those gestures before the iPhone was even unveiled on the Surface. |
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| #16 02:08pm 28/08/09 |
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Nathan
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Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
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Trog is already walking around like a half open pocket knife at the mere thought of it. trog doesn't like linux, he just dislikes iphone even more |
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| #17 03:19pm 28/08/09 |
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Bonez
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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"d[o_0]b Posted 07:23am 28/8/09 pretty sure any phone that doesn't explode in your face is an iphone killer" LOL, right now from the way the press makes it sound, the iPhone is an iPhone killer. After reading about all phones exploding I've definitely changed my mind about getting one. Now I'm back at looking at the Nokia's. Any word as to when the N900 will be available in Aus? |
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| #18 05:25pm 28/08/09 |
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deadlyf
Posts: 436
Location: Queensland
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The Nokia N900 will be available in select markets from October 2009 with an estimated retail price of EUR 500 excluding sales taxes and subsidies. So we should expect to see it in Australia a few years after that. |
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| #19 05:44pm 28/08/09 |
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The Match Fixer
Posts: 1289
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah and costing twice as much.
last edited by The Match Fixer at 18:39:12 28/Aug/09 |
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| #20 06:39pm 28/08/09 |
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simul
Posts: 553
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Looks pretty nice, am so so so glad Nokia actually exploring non-Symbian OS's. Though I think their big fault is that they didn't go Android, thats going to haunt them. Interaction doesn't look very intuitive at all though.
Apple don't have a patent on using two fingers to zoom. The Palm Pre and HTC Hero both use the same multi-touch gestures as the iPhone. In fact, if memory serves correct, Microsoft demonstrated those gestures before the iPhone was even unveiled on the Surface. There are a crapload of patents / lawsuits going on about multitouch in a portable device (ie: Surface doesn't count, although surface was ripping off MT gestures that Ishii did 10+ years ago). http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/08/elan-turns-the-tables-on-apple-sues-for-multitouch-patent-infri/ |
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| #21 07:25pm 28/08/09 |
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Damo
Posts: 4014
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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this could make me stay with nokia, just have to see what their applications will be like
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| #22 07:44pm 28/08/09 |
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3dee
Posts: 4405
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Interaction doesn't look very intuitive at all though. The mouse gesture etc looked cumbersome to use frequently. FLickinh out then tapping the mouse then dragging the mouse... |
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| #23 07:48pm 28/08/09 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27684
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ooks pretty nice, am so so so glad Nokia actually exploring non-Symbian OS's. Though I think their big fault is that they didn't go Android, thats going to haunt them.Maaaaaybe. Don't forget, Android is about the cloud, and using your data in the cloud. Maemo looks more like it's about owning your data on your device. |
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| #24 07:51pm 28/08/09 |
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Midda
Posts: 3884
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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There are a crapload of patents / lawsuits going on about multitouch in a portable device (ie: Surface doesn't count, although surface was ripping off MT gestures that Ishii did 10+ years ago). It's my understanding that you can't patent the action of someone using two fingers to navigate a device, only the implementation. I could be wrong, but I don't think you can patent the physical act of pinching your fingers to zoom, and if you can, that's f***ing retarded. |
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| #25 07:56pm 28/08/09 |
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simul
Posts: 554
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Maaaaaybe. Don't forget, Android is about the cloud, and using your data in the cloud. Maemo looks more like it's about owning your data on your device. Thats a good point - my thinking on Android is more about Nokia's history about supporting cool OS's, but then not moving forward for 10 years (cough s60), Android would help them with that. That and also Android already has a semi-decent app store, and its something that is actually evolving quickly. Nokia just seems to be all over the place since they tried the Ngage, and its a shame. It's my understanding that you can't patent the action of someone using two fingers to navigate a device, only the implementation. I could be wrong, but I don't think you can patent the physical act of pinching your fingers to zoom, and if you can, that's f***ing retarded. http://news.worldofapple.com/archives/2009/01/26/apple-awarded-multi-touch-patent/ |
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| #26 08:30pm 28/08/09 |
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greazy
Posts: 1582
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The patent only applies in the US. I'm sure as soon as it goes international it will have trouble and will probably be thrown out of court.
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| #27 08:48pm 28/08/09 |
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ara
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Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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that is a different touchscreen tech to the n97, that one looks good. i played with a n97 a few weeks ago and it was f***ing ass, people who are holding their breath for that the be an iphone alternative will be disappointed. |
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| #28 10:18pm 28/08/09 |
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Fn
Posts: 5480
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Hmm looks great.
Hopefully its the full package. As long as they don't try to limit what you do on it i'd love to buy one. |
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| #29 06:13pm 29/08/09 |
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3dee
Posts: 4418
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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As long as they don't try to limit what you do on it i'd love to buy one. It's Nokia, not Apple... |
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| #30 06:36pm 29/08/09 |
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
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Location: Ireland
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looks f***ing awesome....
just as I had made my mind up to get an iphone when I head back to Aus, this comes out!!@#$ Apple does have all the cool aps though... |
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| #31 09:36pm 29/08/09 |
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Fn
Posts: 5481
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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While this runs linux, is it foolish of me to think it'll run normal simple linux apps or will they need to be modified for the nokia version of linux?
Obviously it won't run Linux opengl games but linux versions of notepad, browsers and perhaps network monitoring tools yea? EDIT: Heh me too Heardy, I hope I'm glad this came out to stop me :) last edited by Fn at 23:35:23 29/Aug/09 |
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| #32 11:35pm 29/08/09 |
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trog
AGN Admin
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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While this runs linux, is it foolish of me to think it'll run normal simple linux apps or will they need to be modified for the nokia version of linux?that is an awesome question. I'm sure the answer is on the site somewhere. As it runs native Linux I would be surprised if most stuff didn't at least partially work. I guess some X-related stuff might be weird (not sure if it's running some form of X to do the display stuff? Anyone looked at that?) |
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| #33 03:53am 30/08/09 |
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trog
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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They have pre-orders on the site now - 500 pounds / 649 euro == $1,102.52 AUD ! |
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| #34 03:41pm 04/09/09 |
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Fn
Posts: 5483
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Getting closer to new phone day :)
I'm gonna be boring and wait for a month or two after release at least, for real world reviews first tho. |
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