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Nokia has been good to me so prob biased towards them but interested in a google phone maybe...

Is there anything shortly coming worth waiting for? or anything out at the moment which is good

I hate everything apple with a passion but the iphone is simply the superior phone in all aspects right now. It's not even opinion.. just fact.

do not want

I hate everything apple with a passion but the iphone is simply the superior phone in all aspects right now. It's not even opinion.. just fact.

Even the price?

Iphone?

no wait,

um

Iphone?



Maybe you should list what you want to do with the phone, if its just calling then any cheapo nokia, but I assume you want more than just that.

Yes, it has no competition so it can be priced however it wants.

reliability for a start. functionality and practicality a snug second.

Get an iPhone. I hear they are awesome.

N97 or something?

/end-wild-uneducated-guess

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I wasted so much money f***ing around trying to not get an iphone. imate's, o2's, nokia's are all s***.

Its not like iPhones are expensive though, the RRP is the same as other smartphones and the cost under a post-paid plan is quite reasonable

Yeah but he has to hate iPhones to stay on the hate bandwagon :P

But seriously, everything you listed? iPhone at the moment. May change but right now, it is reliable, good functionality and practical, considering your N97, HTC and other phones in the same catagory are the same price if not more expensive.

Just my 2c

Trying using one in a store..

i have dropped my 6110 nav so many times and my staffy even chewed on it for a while put a big ass dint in the aluminium on the back and it still to this day serves me perfectly. The only problem i ever had was when i was getting a massage and the chick put her knee on the sucker and cracked the screen, cost me an extra pineapple but what can you do. An iphone is simply not durable enough to outlast the perils my phone must encounter on a day to day basis and aside to this the touch screen is a real turn off.

aside to this the touch screen is a real turn off

Granted, its not like every other touch screen. Apple patented the s*** out of it cause its actually decent. But the glass screen prolly won't be ideal.

smudges, scratches in pocket etc. besides 1 drop and the screen dies i hear.. f*** taking that out on the piss

I have played alot with them they are good pda's but terrible phones imo

smudges, scratches in pocket etc. besides 1 drop and the screen dies i hear.. f*** taking that out on the piss

They're not that weak. I've dropped mine a few times from about half a metre (obviously not that high) and it just scratched a little bit on the corner or something. They're solid phones, but glass is glass.

I think an iphone

infidel, my arch nemesis returns...

I hear Iphones are awesome.

It's not like you can get an iphone even if you wanted one anyway. I've been looking for one for weeks now. I've tried 3, Optus and in desperation even telstra and been told every time that they are sold out.

i have dropped my 6110 nav so many times and my staffy even chewed on it for a while put a big ass dint in the aluminium on the back and it still to this day serves me perfectly.

I've thrown my v3 at the wall numerous times, bounced it off the car window causing the battery to go in one direction and the phone in the other, dropped it on the floor, the screen has never broken, there's a dent in the body but it still works. The only problem with it is the interface is s*** and the speaker is full of steel filings. Phone seems indestructible after the insane beatings I've given it. I threw it at the car passenger front window so hard the phone bounced off & landed behind my seat, bastard still works.

Yes, I am trying to kill it.

I really doubt an iPhone would withstand an accidental drop on to a hard floor let alone the abuse my s***ty motorola has. My phone has internet, email, txt, mms, crappy camera (but seriously if you want a camera buy a f***ing camera not a phone) and short video recording. It even makes phone calls on occasion.

I always used nokia but got the 3gs after using a 3G at an apple store. Quite a slick interface and does all I need. 32GB for 100 euros was hard to pass up on a two year 30 euro contract. 150 minutes worth of calls and unlimited Internet. Nokia's are so crappy compared to it I even hated getting an iphone myself.

If you're scared about dropping it why dont you get a neck carry pouch for it and a helmet in case you fall over and crack your skull. Wouldn't help to wear some nappies as well in case you poop yourself when it falls.

But seriously, I've broken 2 nokia phones when they fell on the ground, keyboard cracked inside. It was a 6610 and a n80. These are small consumer electronics, theyre designed to withstand some abuse but theyre not indestructible. The iphone seems much sturdier than the nokias but I dont really want to be finding out if it breaks and if it does I'll suck it up for being a clumsy f***.

man I have dropped my bloody iphone so many times, and the amount of times I put it in the pcoket with the car keys and forget, and I had 1 scratch on it....that was from sliding on a sidewalk.

I dont know where this 1 drop and its toast s*** comes from hey.

As for no stock, it is true there is an international shortage at the moment, but I ordered some for work and one for my GF (telstra and 3) and they all showed up within 2 weeks. Just have too be patient :)

the n97 is working well for me. camera is amazing, great interface for autouploading media. i haven't tried the music player at all yet. even better their price has come down dramatically on ebay.

email is good but doesn't do submailboxes. the mail for exchange free software works great for exchange servers syncing everything.

you can get one for free on a 79 cap plan (unlimited text) through optus. will cost you roughly 800 on ebay.

N97 or N79 seems to be the way to go at the moment, though if you were looking at an N79 I'd wait for its replacement.

I have a Nokia E71 which I use for personal and work (email, etc) and its awesome.

I tried the keypad on those (E71) and I couldn't help but press about 4 buttons at once. I don't have big fingers too. I think the E51 and 71 have the same style of buttons.

I've got a nokia n96, I am pretty anti-iphone/pod. However I am starting to get SICK TO DEATH of it. The music player f***s it self every now and then, and i have to pause / restart (the little remote died within like 1.5 months gg nokia designing a plug that sticks straight out when it's going to be in a pocket etc). It's SLOW AS f***, the 3G is random at times as well.

Apparently the 30.xxxx firmware fixes all my problems - and more! But noooo Vodafone can't be f***ed upgrading their version of the firmware past 12.018!

In short, don't get a nokia on a plan - buy it outright and make sure it's not branded.

Now I have to work out how to hack my phone, without getting my internet cut off.....which is a pain, and i bet theres no such problems with Iphones.

Aren't they just a bunch of phone/carrier settings with regards to data connectivity?

How about a blackberry bold then? They're pretty sturdy and got great keyboard. I doubt you'll like new HTC android/winmo that's coming out because they'll all be touch screen, except for HTC Snap/Touch pro 2 but touch pro 2 heavy and expensive as f***. If you don't mind winmo then HTC Snap might be a winner, it's sort of like a blackberry style phone with full QWERTY.

Aren't they just a bunch of phone/carrier settings with regards to data connectivity?

That's what I said, but i called them up to complain about the software and they knew nothing about when the new version was going to come out (they said to connect and update and I told them I already had).

So I suggested they let me take it down to Nokia and get them to put generic operating system on it, and they said that's fine, but they'd have to block my internet?! Probably due to some settings crap. After spending 30 minutes on the phone with them to get to this point, I told them thanks for nothing and have now decided to hack.

get a Chinese copy off of eBay... worked for me.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html

thread over.

Now that I think about it I suppose its a bit on the small side 3dee, though I've been using it for ages now and think its great, I bash out huge emails on it with no issue, I love having the qwerty on the mobile.

That HTC does look awesome, is the touch as good as the iphone though?

neda I cant believe you started this thread you s***c***

get an iphone

it will be a f***ing cold day in hell the day i buy a piece of s*** fagboy fashion accessory

The HTC Dream is sweet. I love mine. Does everything I want and more. The only s*** thing about it is the camera, but I seldom use it anyway. It syncs with your google account. So gmail, googlecalender, youtubes, etc.

It's also fast. I've generally got 3-5 apps running at once and it never slows down.

Is that GoogleSync, Carson? Free Exchange (except for Gmail) = win

I've got a HTC Touch HD for the same reason as OP. Works really well, installed quite a few apps, and will probably flash it with winmo 6.5 when it's officially released and cooked by the XDA developers.

Bonuses -
interchangeable microsdhc cards (hotswappable, but you have to take the backplate off)
User replaceable battery
Not dependant on the "App Store" pfft
Cookable Roms

I was also seriously considering Android as well. HTC are coming out with some really nice flavours of Android

Is that GoogleSync, Carson? Free Exchange (except for Gmail) = win

Sorta. You have to login/sign up to a gmail (google acc) when you start the phone for the first time. Then all the programs like calender, gmail, etc sync with their respective google sites/apps.

I'm fairly confident that when Android gets a bit more attention it'll start stealing some market from apple. It's a great OS.

It's a great OS.

I'm waiting to see what Chrome OS turns out like..

I've got N85, not had any problems with it, comes with some toys : sat-nav, fm transmitter, is quite a bit of software available for symbian too.

Two guys I work with both have iphones - both with cracks accross the screen

i'm waiting for the Sony Ericsson Satio to come out

looks pretty sweet on paper

should be out next month or the month after i believe

One major thing that has turned me off htc and iphone is the lack of ability to group your contacts (eg. send an sms to 'all my hoes' group).

anybody know if either of the phones now have that functionality? if not, i'll stick with a regular nokia

i'm waiting for the Sony Ericsson Satio

Thank you, sir, for finding my new phone. Either this or HTC something. Current is S-E W880i - love it, but under-featured by current standards.

(eg. send an sms to 'all my hoes' group).

I manage a group of 60 soccer players and use floAt's Mobile Agent for doing this. I wrote a macro in Excel to get SMSs from the player DB and delimit them with a semicolon (which is what FMA likes). Bought a $20 Bluetooth dongle. Never looked back. Use it from work and home, FMA has an 'auto detect' option so whenever the mobs is in range it's connected to my computer.

sony W series is the walkman series, no wonder it's under featured

K and now C series has been the main line

but it looks like they are doing away with series/numbers

hat HTC does look awesome, is the touch as good as the iphone though?

Not as good but nearly as good, since it's resistive it'll never be as sensitive as capacitative one - though HTC has done a great job with tweaking the sensitivity on their new handsets. The only thing that puts me off about the Touch pro 2 is that it's too heavy to be comfortable for day to day use. That and it's exxxxxxxxy. HTC Snap might be a winner if you want full QWERTY and nice and light Winmo phone.

I saw an app earlier today that allowed group SMS on a winmo device.

E71 here. works fine for checking my emails and browsing QGL on the bus. I have an Ipod touch if I ever want to watch movies or listen to music.

I like the look of the Satio but doesn`t look like you can put it in a case with that camera slide cover and touch screen phones need cases imo.

the Japanese market Sony Ericssons are way more pimp of course tho:

http://www.sonyericsson.co.jp/product/au/premier3/index.html

what is the best phone that is not iphone?

OH I GET IT.. it's a trick question!

My limited interactions with Android have been positive. It's a really nice OS, and I much prefer it to the iPhone's. I'll be getting an Android phone next year when my contract expires.

I manage a group of 60 soccer players and use floAt's Mobile Agent for doing this. I wrote a macro in Excel to get SMSs from the player DB and delimit them with a semicolon (which is what FMA likes). Bought a $20 Bluetooth dongle. Never looked back. Use it from work and home, FMA has an 'auto detect' option so whenever the mobs is in range it's connected to my computer.

The only problem I see with this is, if you're not in front of the PC, you can't do it... I'd need a phone where I can send sms' to a group on the fly

i'm waiting now for the HTC Leo

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Leo-phone-p_3887.html

I've had an E71 for about a year and think it is awesome. The first phone I have had that I have actually liked. Has all the crap in a phone they tell you that you need but never use. You wont have a problem with the buttons after a little getting used to unless you have the syndrome. Plus it looks good and every douche isn't rolling round with one like the iphone.

Buttons ftw.

f***in spam bots

I had a look at my friends HTC Touch last night and it didn't really stand out, saw no reason to prefer it over my E71. Though the Leo does look cool.

id never ever buy an iphone even if they started giving out free handjobs per day with them, just coz of itunes which can go f*** itself;

saw a google phone last nite, it looked pretty flash;

whats wrong with them?

edit: ok, s*** resolution

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Im thinkin N97 at the moment

wat is bad about them?

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If you can wait then get the HTC Hero, going to have an audio jacket and will have flash player (which will be the first phone to s*** on iphone).

That's what im waiting for.

The N97 was slow as hell for me, the feature set is great but symbian can go f*** itself. Nokia spends all this money on R & D for their phones and leave the software the same s***. They havnt caught up.

Omnia i900 if you're into customising things like your firmware. The standard s***ty widget bar makes the phone a piece of arse but if you dump on a clean custom firmware with pagepool then the phone is very fast. Especially since they integrate the latest model firmware for the hardware which increases both battery life and speed of the device.

Custom firmware runs windows mobile 5.

Omnia has a GPS receiver with ability to manually allow it to download the file which helps it search GPS's faster (updates weekly, finds 4-9 satelites in 10-30seconds when standing outside).
Omnia has standard things like wifi, bluetooth.
Omnia has 8 or 16gb standard internal memory with additional options to expand that with a micro sd card.
Omnia has a 5 megapixel camera which is fairly intelligent
Omnia has a screen which is roughly 82mm corner to corner


Thats about it really, I want to update with pictures of the layout of the UI for mine maybe you might like it, but i have to take a screenshot and upload it from my phone because i can't upload from the work PC's. Data security rules.

Hating something just because it is 'fashionable' or popular is just as stupid as liking it because its popular.

htc hero looks not bad as well how far off are they?

That hero looks pretty darn impressive, will have to try and play with it.

As for the samsung omnia, that is the biggest piece of s*** phone that has ever plagued the earth.

As for the samsung omnia, that is the biggest piece of s*** phone that has ever plagued the earth.

Explain how, and i'll explain how to fix it

The touch screen is balls, the interface is awful because trying to use an app that was designed for a stylus is awful, the OS itself is clunky and slow as anything, even the girl in the 3 store couldnt believe how slow it was. The nokia is faster than it and thats saying something.

Im sure its great if you havnt used an iphone but I had and well, it was like going from a BMW to a mazda.

whats wrong with these?

http://www.htc.com/au/product/magic_vodafone/overview.html

The touch screen is balls, the interface is awful because trying to use an app that was designed for a stylus is awful, the OS itself is clunky and slow as anything, even the girl in the 3 store couldnt believe how slow it was. The nokia is faster than it and thats saying something.

I use a iphone daily, i prefer the omnia with my custom firmware and better ui for being able to use more then one application at a time.

The default settings on that phone are s***, the start menu pulls down dropdowns where your fingernails have to be filed to points to press, the widget bar is slow and packed with s*** apps and the phone has nothing special about it.

Hence custom firmware:
http://mysamsungomnia.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screen01.png?w=240&h=400http://mysamsungomnia.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/screen021.png?w=240&h=400
Thats just one of the many improved omnia interfaces. not the one i'm running, but you can see how at least starting an application isn't a matter of holding a stylus (which i threw away the day i got the phone).

What i'd compare this is more a Ferrari from 2009 is more the iPhone - and the Omnia is more a Ferrari from 1965 where you tweak it and it actually still has a soul. You can be proud and unique with it as the interface is what you want.

edit:

the touch screen is balls

Can't deny that the touch screen isn't good compared to the iphone, but its not balls compared to other touch screens.

the OS itself is clunky and slow as anything,

Its not clunky or slow. For example i went to see a car in the goldcoast yesterday. I got a call while i was running my GPS, i answered it on my headset and pulled over, they asked me a question so i alt tabbed to Opera and googled the answer for them, realised someone had msn'd me so i replied to them while i was pulled over on the phone with opera and gps in the background..

Of course with CFW you can add a 'pagepool' which is like your virtual memory page on windows. This plus removing all the s*** apps which are default on the system, plus removing windows6.1 and upgrading to 6.5 PLUS upgrading the omnia's hardware firmware to the latest firmware from samsung... etc etc.

Its not a phone to pick up and play and expect it to work like the iphone. I wouldnt suggest it unless you are a geek or a tinkerer. It suits people who overclock their PC wind up the boost on their car and play with linux in their spare time.

PS: you do know it has a finger mouse so you don't actually need the stylus, you can just move your finger over the black square to bring up the mouse pointer and select what you need..

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Thats the problem, I did my tinkering with 4 different HTC devices. Im over tinkering, which is why i just want a phone that does what I want out of the box without the community having to make home brews so I can spend hours customizing it.

As for runing more than one app at a time? I dont really need too. I have a laptop and a PC for multitasking.

Im glad you enjoy it but for me stock it was completly retarded.

Thats just one of the many improved omnia interfaces. not the one i'm running, but you can see how at least starting an application isn't a matter of holding a stylus (which i threw away the day i got the phone).

Oh I see, they improve the Omnia by making it look like an iPhone.. nice!

i just want a phone that does what I want out of the box without the community having to make home brews so I can spend hours customizing it.

I wish we could get a happy medium between the two. Does it have to be one extreme or the other?

Apparently yes :) But the iPhone is closer for me personally.

I suppose if Jailbreaking got better (more stable and faster) it would almost be that way.

I wish we could get a happy medium between the two. Does it have to be one extreme or the other?

The "hours" is a bit of an exaggeration - it took me maybe an hour to read, download and install the prepackaged custom homebrew firmware which contained the latest hardware firmware and basic interface which i liked. Its as simple as looking for the screenshot of what you like, clicking that makers homebrew and on XP clicking the installer with your phone plugged in, turning your phone off and on again and the rest is automatic.

I suppose if Jailbreaking got better (more stable and faster) it would almost be that way.

Or if Apple added more customisation features.

Or if Apple added more customisation features.

That would be my dream. Or if, you know, another phone maker actually made a decent phone.