GO!

apple is s***

windows is s***

/thread.

This can only end well.

haha!

Paging 3dee and Hogfather.

lol wat.

HAI. OS/2 4 lyfe.

Hey, I recently got a Mac for work (PhD student), and it's everything I had hoped for and more :O I'm currently working out how to install it on my home PC so I can dual boot between Vista and OSX.

Basically if you want to neatly organise your work without having to get too fiddly, go OSX. If you have more of a clue about computers and you need "more control", go Windows 7 (Vista can DIAF).

If you know how to use a computer: use anything but mac.

Might be a dumb question but do you get some sort of payment for being a Phd student? Or is your only source of income doing tutorials etc

Just that you siad work as a Phd student :/

Heh, Im a Windows Sysadmin and I just bought a macbook pro and its awesome. I love going home and using OSX after being in windows all day.

Billy, I use OSX on my desktop at home, its darn easy. Ill find some links tonight for you.

Sweet - thanks Eds. I'm a little hesitant cause all of the walkthroughs I found said, "Backup everything because you might lose everything on your computer.."

Mission, I am on a scholarship. I am awesome.

Oh s***, I can't commit to a 20-pager at the moment.

If this thread survives then tomorrow maybe :)

with os x you can dual boot for windows,

so os x + windows beats just windows.

edit: on a completely random note: hmm chrome does image size filtering, win

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with os x you can dual boot for windows, so os x + windows beats just windows.

I don't really see a massive benefit of having two toolboxes because my hammer wouldn't fit in the first.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH this thread HAHAHAHA ahh i need that, thanks james

I don't really see a massive benefit of having two toolboxes because my hammer wouldn't fit in the first.

Huh? you only need one, coz two hammers now fit in the one. or something.

I don't really see a massive benefit of having two toolboxes because my hammer wouldn't fit in the first.

What if you had an orange tree and a pear tree and they bore fruit in different seasons? and say you only had two fruit picking lads, one from norway and another fruit picking lad who was a local?

THEN WUT?

I swapped to OSX for a couple of years from XP, and have swapped back to Vista. Dozens of reasons why, but overall I find Windows not just easier to use but far better supported (duh).

Im dual booting at the moment, Hackintosh and Vista (soon to be win7) obviously I cant play games in osx so thats why I've got windows still.

Being a Muso and an IT worker, im torn between the 2, osx is awesome for things like garageband but windows is better for games and running other non-osx apps.

Seriously considering getting a Macbook pro for portable audio stuff.

Windows because I play games, and dual-booting is f***ed.

I don't own an OSX machine and haven't used an Apple personal computer since they were monochrome so I haven't actually got anything to contribute.

I'm sure they're lovely if you swing that way, not that there's anything wrong with that.

if i had any chance of keeping a straight face i would totally be convincing you to go the OSX option right now

No linux....? but seriously macs are just a plain pain in the ass we have them at school and finding any program that you need is a pain. i think they cost us $2000 my rig cost less then that when it was at its peak price which was about 1500. programs are a pain to get if you need hardware you need to buy mac compatible i feel they are a fad and will pass

Winders? Haha!

Got a 2 year-old 2.2Ghz MacBook Pro which I dual-boot between Mac OS X Leopard and Windows 7 64-bit. Windows 7 is definitely an improvement on XP and Vista but little niggles are still annoying: control panel is bloated and confusing; need to go through so many settings just to enable media sharing; need to install programs like virus scanner and Adobe Reader just to open PDFs, etc. After just 2 months my install of Windows and start up has started to feel slower. However it's great for games ;)
On the other hand I use Mac OS X for everything else (web browsing and design) and with MacDrive installed I can access both partitions with either OSes :)

Meh, I find all the app I need for it, which admittidly isnt much because I only really do photo processing, office stuff, interwebs and email at home but the mac warez scene is pretty huge.

As for being a fad....I dunno, didnt bill gates say that about the internet

But you do have one good point, some of their gear is very expensive, but $1800 for a macbook pro and add an extra $180 for your extra ram and hdd, its compeditive with the likes of a Dell 1340, which gets outperformed by my macbook pro in windows 7 (to compare apples with apples)

Both windows and OSX Have their place and their purpose really. I prefer it at home because I know it will "just work" at the risk of sounding like a marketing ad, where as windows, I cant trust to do the same.

After being in windows most my day it is refreshing to not use it at home as well, means I can be more relaxed when using the computer instead of feeling like im still at work lol.

thread cliffnotes:
apples are for kids

Comparing Windows to Macs is like comparing linux with Dell.

I'm running WindOSX with a red hat kernel and a front side school bus.

Yeah for the premium end of the market mac's compare well. That's where mac is gaining the most market-share. As far as OS X and Windows - it gets a bit closer with Windows 7 - but I've grown to appreciate the quality of OS X, and it being a unix comp makes it better for me for web development. and mac apps rock. it's like what you'd get if microsft threw away windows, and started again to build the best OS evar. Although, they'd probably end up with something more like Vista. Sigh.

Also, the yearly OS X release is only a couple of weeks away. It's lookin good. http://www.apple.com/macosx/
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/148219/snow-leopard.jpg

Anyone ever use Lindows?

I tried to use Lindows once, wouldn't run at all on my PC. Was probably just me being noob but considering it was meant to be an easy alternative to windows and I was capable of installing windows from scratch I'd say their easy alternative was epic fail.

I had a play with a mac at dick smiths the other day & my mate was with me. Both of us agree that when that "finder" thing is on a certain mode (looks like large icons) it looks exactly like windows for workgroups 3.11's program manager. We had a good old chuckle at that.

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loving windows 7 at the moment, and I hate vista with a passion.

Can't say much for apple - maybe if I didnt play games I'd consider looking at one more...

What is Lindows? I am intrigued..

Hey, I recently got a Mac for work (PhD student), and it's everything I had hoped for and more :O

:O You went mac billy?! I leave the country for a few months, and the world turns upsidedown.

Mission, I am on a scholarship. I am awesome.

You make it sound like there are people who do PhDs without scholarships...

Also, I'm all for windows. The brief period I had to use oxs on macs last year (it was all year, so yes, I had time to get used to them) I just didn't like them. To be fair, I went in hating macs, so it's not like a gave them a good change, but I think that because I've grown up with windows and know how to get around all windows issues, its easier than oxs, because I don't know how to get around oxs' issues.

What is Lindows? I am intrigued..

Its a distribution of Linux that aims to be like Windows (an "alternative").

Linux isnt and I dont think will ever be, an alternative to windows or osx as a consumer desktop o/s.

pretty much ^^ though its good for netbooks and stuff

Linux isnt and I dont think will ever be, an alternative to windows or osx as a consumer desktop o/s.

That depends on what you as a consumer, do with your PC.

Firefox, Thunderbird, (Open)Office. Its literally all the software that many people use at home, hell some dont even use more than Firefox. There is no shortage of people for whom Linux is perfectly usable as their desktop OS, because the Operating System they use is completely irrelevant when the software they want to use is available on every platform.

"Lindows" hasn't been called that for the better part of a decade. It's called Linspire now.

I have nothing against OS X, but it doesn't offer me anything that Windows doesn't (especially now that I'm on Windows 7), so I feel no need to switch. I had OS X installed on my PC for a short time about a year ago, but didn't find it anything terribly amazing, other than the fact that I couldn't play games.

It's called Linspire now.

Shows how much I know about Linux...

so I feel no need to switch

Pretty much this.

I never needed Mac OS X before I wanted to do iPhone dev. There was just nothing I could do on it that I couldn't do (and more) on Windows. Granted, I don't do a lot of stuff now that requires Windows so I don't have any problems.

The problem with linux, is that there are so many different flavours, becuase its community driven, so you end up with all this cutting edge stuff that may be cool, but the everyday person just doesnt care about.

Linux has its place, as does osx and Windows, I dont think you have to have one or the other.

Comparing Windows to Macs is like comparing linux with Dell.

You're so right, Dell is way better than linux!

lol

In that case my Dell running linux must be f***ing awesome!

Not as awesome as my linux running Dell.

That depends on what you as a consumer, do with your PC.

Firefox, Thunderbird, (Open)Office. Its literally all the software that many people use at home, hell some dont even use more than Firefox. There is no shortage of people for whom Linux is perfectly usable as their desktop OS, because the Operating System they use is completely irrelevant when the software they want to use is available on every platform.

kind of, except people don't just open firefox and look at about:blank - there's a bunch of underlying systems required to allow firefox to actually browse the internet and that's where the operating system can become relevant depending on the user/hardware combination

the Operating System they use is completely irrelevant when the software they want to use is available on every platform

The operating system will determine whether or not the application can actually run or do anything useful.

This doesn't matter as much if its a controlled hardware-os pairing (like eePC) but you absolutely can't say that Linux is ready to be handed on a disk to every mamma and poppa out there who at the moment are running Windows on a Dell or worse some random mongrel PC smashed together by their grandson out of leftovers.

Edit: I think I may have just parroted Jim, although he worded it dumb. People will accuse me of being your pet Jim! Say something stupid (again) so I can point out how wrong you are.

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What are you talking about? Linux funs fine on my leftovers PC. My ram sticks are carrot sticks, CPU is celery and the hard drives platters are thinly sliced ham. Works great.

nah I worded it awesomely hogfather, so awesomely your face melted

I tried linux for a while but it just had niggly little annoyances and I found I was spending a lot of time fixing it rather than using it :(

Loving my hackintosh currently.

http://img216.yfrog.com/img216/3928/picture5guk.png

f*** you mac users are s***

I use mac at home, linux and windows at work.

so really im a user of all 3

How does Leoparr handle 8gb ram (or <32gb on the Mac Pros for that matter). Isn't leopard 32 bit?

As far as I know, Leopard has a 32/64bit hybrid kernal in it, allowing it too address that much ram and use it when the situation calls for it.

I had it described to me as the stepping stone from tiger too snow leopard.

Leopard is 64 bit enabled, although will work on 32 bit as well. Tiger was 32+64 bit as well, on the powerpc u could run 64 bit apps on a 32 bit kernel, the whole 64 bit OS is just a x86 pain.

Snow leopard has all of the core apps rewritten for 64 bit, although why calculator is 64 bit but motion isn't drives me batty.

Anyway, more info here:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Conceptual/64bitPorting/intro/intro.html