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Topic: Anti-Spam Program
MrHardware
Posts: 5057
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So i find i'm slowly becoming more and more out of the loop when it comes to PCs

I would like an anti-spam program to use that works with Outlook/Outlook Express - Preferrably some kind of plugin rather than a separate program. Any suggestions?
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Alt_F4
Posts: 944
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I use gmail and don't get spam.

Not sure how this helps you, but nonetheless.
Jim
Posts: 9804
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
several of the common windows AV solutions have anti-spam mail client plugins for thunderbird/outlook/outlook express I think
Dodgymon
Posts: 1412
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
spam fighter is a free 1
MrHardware
Posts: 5059
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
had a good look at spamfighter, seems to fit the bill, thanks gents.
Pinky
Posts: 1698
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

I use gmail and don't get spam.

Not sure how this helps you, but nonetheless.

You must be the luckiest GMail user alive. I have been getting maybe 10 spam every 24 hours lately - with maybe 300 spam going to the 'Spam' folder.
FraktuRe
Posts: 917
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
I get about one a day in my spam folder, nothing in my inbox.


on hotmail.
Jim
Posts: 9811
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I signed up for gmail a few years back, and don't actually use it other than to test an address on a mail server I control, has no issues receiving mail from somewhere I don't control. nevertheless, any time I log in to do one of these tests, there are hundreds of spams in the junk folder. pretty amazing given that the address is 'jimsaq' which isn't particularly common and I've never let the address out into the wild

whoop
Posts: 14081
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've noticed a heap more spam in all my email accounts lately. I used to get hardly any, even on the accounts I use everywhere.
Pinky
Posts: 1701
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

I've got an info@domain.com type address being forwarded to my GMail - that probably doesn't help. Then I am a supplier for an international software, and they advertise our support address in plain text on their website *sigh*...

If I turn the setting on our webserver that forwards all email addresses like random_garbage@domain.com to my email I get around 10,000 spam a day! Pretty amazing.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27160
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

The answer to all your prayers.

For OE there's almost nothing that'll work as a plugin (as far as I'm aware). It works really well with OE though as a separate application/proxy setup.

It also has a plugin for Outlook proper.

I've been using it for years and nothing else has come close to its awesomeness. You have to be prepared to spend a bit of time training it but once you've done that it is f***ing spooky good at catching spam.
Raven
Posts: 3703
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Spambayes used to be foolproof, but I think the spammers have now started doing stuff that breaks bayesian filtering - causes too much potential ham to be flagged as spam and vv :(
tequila
Posts: 2445
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I get 150-200 per day to brett@unix.org.au but I've been using spam assassin for so long now I just trust its judgement
anything marked with 'X-SpamAssassin: Y' gets auto nuked

I don't even see them, I don't even know about them
I *occasionally* check through the spam folder and empty it out
Pinky
Posts: 1704
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

This morning I had 5 spam in my inbox and 118 spam in my spam folder in GMail.
Alt_F4
Posts: 945
Location: Brisbane, Queensland


You must be the luckiest GMail user alive. I have been getting maybe 10 spam every 24 hours lately - with maybe 300 spam going to the 'Spam' folder.


I must be lucky indeed :\ Or maybe you sign up to porn sites.

I get a huge amount in my Spam box of course, but in the past 6 months i would have had maybe 2 or 3 slip through to my inbox?
TicMan
Posts: 4726
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I get maybe 1-2 spam emails a week in my Gmail inbox yet about 1000-1500 in the spam folder.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27162
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Spambayes used to be foolproof, but I think the spammers have now started doing stuff that breaks bayesian filtering - causes too much potential ham to be flagged as spam and vv :(
not for me - you just have to keep training. Every year or so I just flush all the training and start again because spammers do change tactics and starting afresh helps - but isn't that big a deal. I almost NEVER get false positives - according to my stats, only 2:

SpamBayes has processed 110439 messages - 54693 (50%) good, 51638 (47%) spam and 4108 (3%) unsure.

2225 messages were manually classified as good (2 were false positives).

2339 messages were manually classified as spam (792 were false negatives).

34 unsure messages were manually identified as good, and 1482 as spam.

2 out of 110,439 isn't bad!@# Of course that's only 2 I know about - but i'm pretty careful and i have a lot of faith in Spambayes to do the right thing.
mongie
Posts: 6439
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah, spambayes has been good to me too.
jmr
Posts: 6319
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ironport
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Posts: 109
Location: Queensland
Ironport ... I'm not a huge fan of reputation filtering ... the whole ...

"oh your from a trusted source... go right on threw... I wont check you"

mentality kind of worries me.
jmr
Posts: 6320
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
threw ay
Clubby
Posts: 110
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ay bruz
Raven
Posts: 3704
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I dunno, I like whitelist/blacklist methodology, it's just that maintaining it is a pain - I'd love to see a challenge-response whitelist implementation. I'd rather see PennyBlack implemented alongside it though, but noone's actually written an implementation.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27163
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I dunno, I like whitelist/blacklist methodology, it's just that maintaining it is a pain - I'd love to see a challenge-response whitelist implementation. I'd rather see PennyBlack implemented alongside it though, but noone's actually written an implementation.
just ignore all mail that isn't digitally signed by someone you have a public key for!@#
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