Long story, will try keep it short.


about 2 and a half months ago I paid 2630 dollars to croydon racing developments for a new gt3071r turbo for my car. 3 weeks pass, i ring them and say helllo is my turbo coming? this is what they said

"yeah sorry mate we dont even actually know when we are going to get any of these, GARRETT hasnt even given us a date yet, it could be 1 week it could be 10 weeks"

so i was like uhhhh well were you going to let me know?

he then offered me a refund or to wait, to which i said f*** you and il get a refund thx.

this is where it gets lol.

i asked for a refund on a tuesday, to which i was told my money will be wired back to me on the friday because thats when their book keeper is in the shop. no dramas.

following monday, tuesday and wednesday pass, no money. so i ring them and they tell me they forgot, and are going to write me a cheque. no dramas. another week passes, no cheque. i ring them and say wtf is going on (i was always 100% polite to them, obviously because they have my money and i didnt want to tick them off)

they said they forgot again, and they were gonna send my cheque out straight away. another week passes, no cheque. i ring them and speak to someone there who says he has JUST sent my cheque that day. cool no worries. ANOTHER WEEK PASSES, NO f***ING CHEQUE

i ring them and say wtf again, they apologise i speak to their boss, who ensures me he is going to send me my cheque.

another couple of days pass, and FINALLY my cheque arrives. except they made it out for $26.30 instead of $2630 !! i lol and ring them back, tell them they f***ed up. that was 2 WEEKS AGO.

so i called them last week and said did i need to get solicitors involved to get my money back, they backpeddled so hardcore and i have just got my remaining money today.


cocks!!

So did you get splendour tickets or not?

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heh, those dodgey mexicans.

also, did you try to cash the 26.30 cheque now you have the other one?

Add the two cheques up ara.

havent cashed either of them yet.

and yes my mate bought me a splendor ticket today, so f***en happy

my life is no longer in ruins

bah, there is nothing to add up but i get your point.

10$ says they bounce.

a cheque's worth nothing at all until it's cleared.
get them in the bank asap

You should have just gone down there and got them to write the cheque as you waited.

Sounds like they are in financial trouble, lucky you got it back.

a cheque's worth nothing at all until it's cleared.
get them in the bank asap

+1

Also, you shouldn't have paid in full. Should offer a deposit, then the business imports. Their investment/risk is the import and that you will pay - up to them how much deposit they want - but f*** paying in full, especially at that price.

awesome story, rated 5 !

(ps when it bounces make sure to come back and update us all pls.)

CRD are dodgey mc dodge c***s

a mate bought a 2871 off them and it blew up inside 12 months, they wont replace it
when he first got it, the wastegate was f***ed
sent it back, got it back again with the wrong wastegate

sent the wastegate back alone, eventually got the right one
had nothing but dramas with them

wow, sound like a high quality establishment.

gl when the cheque bounces.

bad luck mang, that sounds pretty heinous

Bad luck dude. Fingers crossed they cash.
Looks like I won't be going through them for a set of Racing Harts I'm keen on.

I didn't have any dramas with them when I dealt with them but I didn't order a turbo.

man cheque better not bounce, surely that wouldnt happen though? whats the next step if it does bounce? fly down there and break a c***s face


definitely do not ever shop at croydon, they are absolute rubbish

if the cheque bounces i would be going down there to take some s*** straight from their shop. tell 'em they will get it back when the cheque clears or they give you cash.

f***ers...

surely that wouldnt happen though?

ahaha you nub

Yeah, I'd say there is an above average chance the cheque will bounce.

They're probably just buying time.

theyre obviously a company that is well in the red. all of their actions of avoidance are stalling tactics because theyre more then likely about to go belly up. id cash that cheque asap if i were you

yeah sif trust mechanics :)

yeah sif trust mechanics :)

you say it in jest but they're dodgy c***s.

the only mechanic you can really trust are the ones who aren't running the business as well and don't have a direct hand in the $ you are supposed to be paying them.

hey f*** you i'm a mechanic

f*** mechanics, i'd rather get all greasy than deal with dodgy c***s who do half arsed jobs and charge me top dollar for it.

at least my half arsed job was for free.

That's like ultratune up the road from my work. Useless bastards. I rang them up asking for some injectors, a few days pass no call back so I ring up again "oh I forgot, I'll ring you tomorrow". Tomorrow comes, no call so I ring again "oh the guy lost the part number can you bring your car in again" I just said yeah whatever and hung up & got my injectors elsewhere.

Then a while later I rang up enquiring how much it'd be to do my gearbox, says he'll ring me back and I'm still waiting for that call 2 months later.

The ironic thing is, they sent me a letter telling me my car is due for its 6 month service, how the f*** they can expect me to actually go to them again for a service is beyond me, I'd take it there and they'd probably just forget to work on it but charge me anyway.

f*** mechanics, i'd rather get all greasy than deal with dodgy c***s who do half arsed jobs and charge me top dollar for it.

I used to think this way but I have no spare time anymore, I work from 7:30am - 5pm so it's always dark when I get a chance to work on my cars and since I drive a FWD now, just to change the oil you have to pull half the front end to bits.

My gearbox needs a rebuild and I'm dreading having to pull that son of a bitch out, CV's, all the s*** that's bolted to the box for the heater & air intake, oh it's going to be a bastard. Does anyone have any place they'd recommend to send it once I do get it out? Not sure I cbf replacing the syncros & all the bearings myself.

why rebuild and not just replace?

and since I drive a FWD now, just to change the oil you have to pull half the front end to bits.

what fkn car is this?

Toyota Corolla, AE92. I was exaggerating slightly but if you don't have the correct tool (which I don't) I've got to pull the distributor out to get at the oil filter because the aircon pump and the manifold bracket is in the way. There's also 2 plastic covers underneath the car that need to come off to get at the bottom of the motor (only one if you're not doing gearbox oil as well).

I tried a tool that fits up there but it just slips & doesn't undo the filter so I just thought f*** this & took the dizzy out, took like 30 seconds.

why rebuild and not just replace?

Because I don't know if the one I get from the wreckers is in any better condition, been looking and it seems c52's were common for popping out of 5th so I don't want to go spend $400 on one from a wrecker only to find it too needs a rebuild. Granted there's a warranty and if it's f***ed I can take it back but I can't actually find too many c52 boxes at my local wreckers. I was going to head up to the big one one boundry road on the weekend but I hurt my back & couldn't even stand up :(

last edited by whoop at 18:38:47 15/Jun/09

working on cars is s***. do what i did and get a new car. problem solvered

why so much h8 for mechanics. seriously, 5% of mechanics give the rest a bad name.

why so much h8 for mechanics. seriously, 5% of mechanics give the rest a bad name.

yeah the headlight fluid is due for a flush and refill.

the electrons in the windscreen wiper motor have just about run out, have to replace the motor.

why so much h8 for mechanics. seriously, 5% of mechanics give the rest a bad name.

are you a mechanic?

yeah the headlight fluid is due for a flush and refill.

Is that why my headlights are dimmer than usual?

just fyi, rob @ east coast beat CRD's price when I bought my 3076

http://www.eccustoms.com/

are you a mechanic?

no. was going to be one though.

east coast customs... like that lancer they did up that some guy at work has which has the fully sick bodykit, fat muffler and standard motor and the too cool for school graffiti style sticker all over its rear windscreen.

wonder how much that cost and if the return on investment in pussy is worth it\\\

Good work on the splendour tickets. I finally got mine just before after probs clicking refresh a couple of thousand times.

wonder how much that cost and if the return on investment in pussy is worth it\\\

Do you think he'd actually attract any sort of quality pussy with that though? It'd be 17 year old ricer skanks full of AIDS.

i think im getting a 2nd hand GT-RS now

:)

no. was going to be one though.

well, that ruined my setup there but my point stands.

people like you become mechanics, by which i mean morons. the stupid s*** you've said on here regarding cars is bad enough without you turning spanners.

existence, have you considered just ordering a turbo from the states directly (or from a garrett distributor there)?

with the dollar the way it is you might save a packet even including the rediculous amount you'll pay in freight.

warranty is worth the extra few bucks for buying in .au

and if you arent planning on huge power just get a cheaper turbo (kkr/hypergear etc)

Im glad you got your money back pete!

kkr/hypergear are not very good! stick to garrett and hks always!

postage from the US can be quite ridiculous though. One manufacturer quoted me $400USD for shipping on a set of springs! (although they were quite happy for me to organise my own shipping at under half the price).

yeah but a quick google says US$1,4000 for a GT3071R in T3 0.63, which is pretty good with the dollar where it is.

is that the full kit tho? this was braided lines everything to bolt on.

also, i read some bad things about the 0.63 with boost creep, but then i read that that only happened in the nissan housings not the genuine garret housings.

also been given some advice that prob wont beable to get the most of out the 3071r without doing cams and metal headgasket, and i def cant afford that atm, so yeah

feel free to help me / advice :)

what car? 3071 is pretty much perfect for sr20
set of mild cams would really set it off but its fine without them

really nf. what 'stupid s*** about cars' have i said?
i've said that i like lpg and lpg increases torque in the lower rev range, and that's about it.
and i chose not to be a mechanic because its s*** money

you just go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it ^

oh

wow I thought I'd been teleported into boost cruisin for a second here.

you just go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it ^

like the energizer bunny?

FYI - Dan from Elite Racing Developments is a local Garret distributor and will likely be able to smash most other peoples prices. Also prob the best guy to get to install the thing if your not going to do it yourself.

http://www.erd.com.au

Hey exi, you still own your ute? Saw it today on Blunder Rd this arvo when I left the Oxley job.

wtf isnt oxley done yet! f*** that site has taken forever. nah i sold it a while ago now.

i banked that cheque today, so i will report back friday and tell yous if it bounced. haha f*** i hope it doesnt

i said to the teller, what do i do if my cheque bounces

and she goes;

shoot them. hahaha

what year vs ute was yours exi? and how much did you sell it for? i picked up a 98 sIII 3seater the other day.. what they worth?

Yeah I would swear it was yours, some large cru cut ass lookin' mofo in it.
Goodluck with cheque again :\

yeah that sounds like the guy that bought it..

mine was a 2000 vs olympic edition. sold it for 8grand with 125thou k's on it

my workmate has a 96 3seater manual he paid 6 for it last year

so about 6?

Why don't you open up a car sales yard already Suhaib? :)

really nf. what 'stupid s*** about cars' have i said?
i've said that i like lpg and lpg increases torque in the lower rev range, and that's about it.
and i chose not to be a mechanic because its s*** money

i'm not sure i can remember you saying anything that wasn't stupid when it was car related (or probably otherwise).

however things that are especially memorable from a stupidity point of view is your complete non-grasp of the concept of torque. and you've just gone ahead and demonstrated it again.

having the same capacity engine:
- making less torque = less power
- making peak torque at a lower rpm = less power
- making less torque at a lower rpm = guess what, less power.

the e-gas lpg falcon makes less power, less torque and makes peak torque lower. its worse in every way. i'd attempt to explain it to you but i think you are far too stupid to understand it if you haven't gotten it by now.

lpg increases torque in the lower rev range

yeah and

the e-gas lpg falcon makes less power, less torque and makes peak torque lower

Makes sense to me?

It may still make less peak torque but it's peak torque moves down lower in the rev range, increasing torque in the lower rev range (compared to what torque it did produce in that range on petrol).

Am I missing something here? BTW I don't know if any of those claims are true.

Ahhh unless when you say 'makes peak torque lower' you don't mean - peak torque lower in the rev range - which is what I read it as. Just lower peak torque figure at the same rev point.

exactly mission. it flattens the torque curve. nf can't fathom that with his tiny brain. and the egas falcon in standard trim is a very, very poor example of how to LPG a car.

here's an example of a car that's been properly converted with a decent ('non-taxi style') system
http://i43.tinypic.com/iwp7bk.jpg
(xr6 turbo if you're interested)

oh and by the way nf, the old land rover V8's love LPG.

last edited by MrHardware at 21:53:18 16/Jun/09

what does that s*** dyno picture prove. they mislabelled the lines ? they used 91 RON ? its not tuned for unleaded ? could there possibly be any more variables for engines ? 200kw for taxi ? 4.0 litres and 200kw... sad.

just saw the turbo bit

turbo... 4.0litres... 200kw.... maybe in 1956 that would be impressive but f*** youd be disappointed lugging around a 2ton car with 200kw thats supposed to be a performance model. almost as funny as the porsche cayenne being considered a performance car, or a suzuki swift gti... RAFFOUTROUD

last edited by cainer at 21:59:36 16/Jun/09

well considering the motors origins are in the late 50's i'm not surprised
same oil filter type from 1959 to 2006

200rwkw from a factory turbo. so what. it was never intended as a horsepower hero.

last edited by MrHardware at 22:07:36 16/Jun/09

Every workshop has the same problems, good stories and bad stories..

Did you even shop around to get best deal for the turbos, or did you just go to croydon because of their name?

I got a turbo on an old 626 name your price!?!!one!

Makes sense to me?

It may still make less peak torque but it's peak torque moves down lower in the rev range, increasing torque in the lower rev range (compared to what torque it did produce in that range on petrol).

Am I missing something here? BTW I don't know if any of those claims are true.

Ahhh unless when you say 'makes peak torque lower' you don't mean - peak torque lower in the rev range - which is what I read it as. Just lower peak torque figure at the same rev point.

sorry, it was badly worded. mr hardware was saying that peak torque being at a lower rpm was a good thing, i'm saying its not. if you understand the difference between torque and power you'd know that the peak torque lower (and presumably its going to be a narrower and steeper curve to boot) is a negative.

its because power is a multiple of torques and revs, that you want peak torque as high up the usable rev range as possible. or rather you want still want to be making significant torques for your whole rev range (aka a flat torque curve). diesels suck because they have a really peaky curve thats very low in the rev range. lpg suffers from the same thing due to the (i think) flame speed of the gas.

turboed or in a very high compression motor, it can work quite well though (lpg that is). but as a dual fuel its a heap of s***.

oh and by the way nf, the old land rover V8's love LPG.

hahah, negative. i like my space thanks all the same.

We just bought a turbo diesel and it's better than any petrol car I've driven (although I've never really driven any 'performance' petrols).

Having the torque down low makes it easy to drive, very responsive and it goes up hills like they're not there, without having to get the revs up. I'm not suggesting what you have said is incorrect - I have no idea.

So from my experience I'd take a modern diesel over a petrol anyday for my style of driving and use of the car ie: old man stylze reprezentin'.

last edited by mission at 15:12:37 17/Jun/09

yeah definitely turbo diesel ftw
mine doesn't really see 2000rpm unless im pushing it
8.5-9.5L/100 though

mr hardware was saying that peak torque being at a lower rpm was a good thing

No. This is the basic fact that you fail to comprehend time and time again. Once again your tiny brain can't distinguish between 'more' and 'peak'. This basic failure completely negates all your arguments and shows nothing other than you fail at basic comprehension.

shut the f*** up in my thread f*****s!!!!

Every workshop has the same problems, good stories and bad stories..

Did you even shop around to get best deal for the turbos, or did you just go to croydon because of their name?

i got a quote of the same turbo kit from 4 shops, crd was the cheapest by 200 bucks.

i had never even heard of them before i found them on sau

well you now know, cheapest isn't always the best..

what car is the turbo/s for?

Wtf is a "turbo"? Is that the thing that makes the pfft pfft pfft sound at 1am when you young'ins are up to no good?

no, that's a blow off valve or wastegate billy, some, but not all turbo cars feature noisy ones.

A turbo is for doing skids and other sic stuff.

for an rb25det

how isn't cheapest quote the best on the same item? i had no way of possibly knowing this s*** was gonna happen.

3071 is good/responsive for rb25, 3076 is balls out power

Just saying, cheapest price isn't always the best, especially in the car scene..

What other places did you goto?

No. This is the basic fact that you fail to comprehend time and time again. Once again your tiny brain can't distinguish between 'more' and 'peak'. This basic failure completely negates all your arguments and shows nothing other than you fail at basic comprehension.

Haha, but you still haven't clicked. Marginally more torque at some arbitrary point at lower RPM (I'm presuming you are comparing some unseen torque graphs), is still not a good thing.

What people think of as grunt in a diesel is the fact that the torque curve drops off so suddenly that you have to drive it within the upper end of the torque curve. The motor runs out of puff at higher rpms. You have lower gear or final drive ratios to make up for the fact it doesn't have the top end power which means you end up with less torque at the wheels (which is the torque you actually feel) and thats a factor of rpm and gearing, aka its a factor of horsepower.

The car with more horsepower can always put more torque to the wheels. It's just a matter of being in the right gear.

Horsepowerinabox.com ? I have had dealings with them before.

3071 is good/responsive for rb25, 3076 is balls out power

T04Z or nothing ;)

pete - seriously, http://www.erd.com.au

if he can't beat croydon's price i'll be amazed.

i've only had to order stuff from croydon once and it all went smoothly (was a set of splitfires)... ah well.

last edited by Strik3r at 18:01:21 17/Jun/09

to4 is going to suck a big fat one on an rb25 imo
you'd need to really keep it high in the rev range

i have it on my 26.. (100cc - not a lot of difference). Not really laggy at all.. you just need to get all the supporting mods to help spool it up a bit quicker. I see 1 bar of boost at 4000rpm, 25psi by 4400. makes peak torque at 5000rpm and holds it through to 7000rpm. 620hp at the wheels. With an 8500 rev limit, i have an effective rev range of 4000rpm (4500-8500).

when you think about it, stock GTR turbos arent really all in till about 3300-3500 and most "responsive" setups arent on full noise till 3700-4000. Im only 500rpm behind them and have a bucketload more power.

Can I just say that a T88 on an rb25 doesn't start boost till around 4-5k and then all mother f***ing hell breaks loose. The T04Z should be just as spastic. Strik3r yours must be clazy!

http://www.erd.com.au +1
Dan is a friendly dude and great prices.

Existence what car is it for, skyline?

ps. East coast customs (lol). My sil80 had a big ass sticker on the rear windscreen from them. First thing i did was chisle it off.

Finally got my turbo fixed up too (the actuator wasnt even hooked up, unlimited boost). I'm wondering if its something east coast did.

Interesting story exi, needed more weeks of waiting.

Just go to bunnings & get a leaf blower, hook that up to your intake.

Google searching the companies name is only showing this thread at the end of the second page. Why has google forsaken us.