Found out this morning that Windows 7 absolute earliest release date is December this year and that is with a lot of luck. Official release date is Q1 2010.

Removing all downgrade rights. Anyone who purchases Windows 7 note there will be no downgrade options, which users of Windows Vista could do legally, downgrade to XP.

Also some cool windows 7 features showed like wiggling your open window around minimizes all background programs etc.

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Also some cool windows 7 features showed like wiggling your open window around minimizes all background programs etc.

"cool" ? because press windows+m and clicking the window you want is sooooooooo hard

"cool" ? because press windows+m and clicking the window you want is sooooooooo hard

wiggle sounds easier still

Also some cool windows 7 features showed like wiggling your open window around minimizes all background programs etc.

You mean like cmd+option+H which Mac OS X has had for years? Neat.

Is Windows 7 actually going to have anything original? Or does it consist of microsofty mac osx and compiz effects?

when I posted this thread I clearly forgot how much people criticize rather than appreciate anything.

You mean like cmd+option+H which Mac OS X has had for years? Neat.

Nah, he means wiggle the foreground window will make the background ones minimise I think :)

They'd probably have done that with mac years ago but you can't tie up all one mouse button :D

That wiggle and minimise thing is working on my 7 desktop right now!

That's a lot easier than a clucterf*** of button combos. Just wish I could do the dock the window to a half screen thing along the seam between my monitors now :)

i look at Windows 7 to be like Vista except not slow or s***.

Found out this morning that Windows 7 absolute earliest release date is December this year and that is with a lot of luck. Official release date is Q1 2010.

oh noes an extra couple of months

what is it with having just one button on those things?

plugging a normal mouse in to a Mac and right-clicking gets options the same as the Windows GUI does.. why ditch that? It's bloody annoying not having the option on a Mac mouse. Does the '2 button mac mouse' cost another optional $400 or something?

/end rant.

Removing all downgrade rights. Anyone who purchases Windows 7 note there will be no downgrade options

it comes with a VM and a legit copy of WinXP Pro SP3 built in on most versions. Why would you need to backdate (other than needing a serial dongle to run a program) ?

I can apreciate that people were sketchy on the idea of running MS VM on a Vista machine so you had an old version of XP to run certain tasks, but computers have more power and memory now. Why the hell wouldn't you?

The wiggly thing is a bit homo, but I like the snap to things it has when you drag a window to the left, right and top parts of the screen.

The wiggly thing is a bit homo

no ur!

Windows 7 rocks, I converted my HTPC over to it when the RC hit. Its been running all month rock solid. The new media centre interface is very nice, got channel logos in the guide, media browser running all my TV show and movies. Admittedly this is what Vista should have been but I'm not complaining, bring on the RTM.

elvis has Windows 7 as his coaster for his Ubuntu mug at work.

Is elves your husbands nickname? Does he even post here? Did you meet him on OCAU?

"cool" ? because press windows+m and clicking the window you want is sooooooooo hard

That's awesome, I didn't know you could do that (noob), thanks!

Removing all downgrade rights. Anyone who purchases Windows 7 note there will be no downgrade options, which users of Windows Vista could do legally, downgrade to XP.

By the sounds of it, we won't need to downgrade from Windows 7, unlike vista.

i love vista, cant wait for this. also, i heard oct off msdn.

Is elves your husbands nickname? Does he even post here? Did you meet him on OCAU?

he worked at gamedude afaik

thats something i'd keep off my resume

Is elves your husbands nickname? Does he even post here? Did you meet him on OCAU?

yes. no (but he has a wiki page for some reason). no.

(do people question Spook if his wife is a member when he refers to her as 'Petal'? No. So back the f*** off)

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elvis has Windows 7 as his coaster for his Ubuntu mug at work.

Does Elvis have Twitter? I now feel the sudden need to be updated on his day to day goings ons.

(do people question Spook if his wife is a member when he refers to her as 'Petal'? No. So back the f*** off)

Ahaha f*** you're a gem Kat.

i look at Windows 7 to be like Vista except not slow or s***.

So basically not Vista :P

I wonder when the hell businesses will adopt Windows 7? XP bores me to tears.

Vista was NT6.0 yes? And Windows 7 is NT6.1 (not version 7)

So essentially it isn't anything 'new'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows

Windows 7 NT 6.1.7100
Windows Vista NT 6.0.6001

I wonder when the hell businesses will adopt Windows 7? XP bores me to tears.

For us we will be doing a full hardware refresh in about 18 months when our current hardware is out of warranty.. if I don't win my business case for changing to Macbooks then we'll get Win7 then.

Most businesses will probably follow the same time to change as WinXP will be end of support soon and most of the people that decide these things will know Vista doesn't present any real reasons to use once Win7 is out.

So essentially it isn't anything 'new'

Yeh, except for all the new s***!

You don't see us making threads about how lame linux is... why not just back the f*** up yourself, and enjoy using the Windows 7 cd as a coaster. Bitch.

Also some cool windows 7 features showed like wiggling your open window around minimizes all background programs etc.

I Prefer the Win+Home key combination. Minimizes all windows except the one which has focus. The mouse gestures are lame.

I Prefer the Win+Home key combination. Minimizes all windows except the one which has focus. The mouse gestures are lame.

They have to have gestures, becuase otherwise all the graphic designers will cry and go back to their mac's.

Yeh, except for all the new s***!

Windows 7 is vista 2.0, not a stand alone new windows. That's what I mean by 'new' (hence why I used the ''s :P)

windows 3.1, windows 95, windows 98, windows 2000, windows xp, windows vista, windows 7


see how it works?

edit (i'm aware thats not how it really works).

And Windows XP was win 2000 mark two - they also shared a common base kernel and stuff like drivers etc worked between them.

What is your point, if you have one?

yeah, i see win 7 as the same sort of leap from 2000 to XP

1.01 1.01

2.03 2.03
2.11 2.11

3.0 3.0
3.1x 3.1
For Workgroups 3.1
NT 3.1 NT 3.1
For Workgroups 3.11 3.11
3.2 (released in Simplified Chinese only) 3.2
NT 3.5 NT 3.5
NT 3.51 NT 3.51

95 4.0.950
NT 4.0 NT 4.0.1381
98 4.10.1998
98 SE 4.10.2222
Me 4.90.3000

2000 NT 5.0.2195
XP NT 5.1.2600
XP 64-bit Edition 2003 NT 5.2.3790
Server 2003 NT 5.2.3790
XP Professional x64 Edition NT 5.2.3790
Fundamentals for Legacy PCs NT 5.1.2600
Home Server NT 5.2.4500

Vista NT 6.0.6001 \
Server 2008 NT 6.0.6001
7 NT 6.1.7100



(no point, I just ended up formatting it anyway, so thought I would post it - leaving thread now)

DONT COME BACK.

PS UBUNTU IS s***.

Actually they are mostly paired to 2 releases per kernel.

3.0
3.11
(Graphics over DOS)


win95
win98
win32 kernel that is s***HOUSE and falls down a lot. Somehow defeats Apple anyway.

(various seperate NT server releases up to here)

Win2000
WinXP
Integration of NT kernel into client OS THANK GOD.

Vista
7
Long overdue changes to security and HAL to seperate administrative and user rights. Heaps of s*** breaks because dumbs*** developers did stupid things like writing at runtime to HKLM without checking for permissions. People are upset. Microsoft takes this one on the chin and business is stuck with XP SOEs.

Windows7 rides in with a shiny facelift, bunch of services everyone hated turned off and cashes in on the 2 years of hardware work bringing Vista drivers up to speed. Hailed as the second Jebus by Windows users.

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Just wish I could do the dock the window to a half screen thing along the seam between my monitors now :)

Try this: http://www.ivanheckman.com/allsnap/

Probably the best peice of software I have on all my machines for organising windows.

it comes with a VM and a legit copy of WinXP Pro SP3 built in on most versions. Why would you need to backdate (other than needing a serial dongle to run a program) ?

I can apreciate that people were sketchy on the idea of running MS VM on a Vista machine so you had an old version of XP to run certain tasks, but computers have more power and memory now. Why the hell wouldn't you?

Probably not a problem for home users but big problem for IT nerds. My work is all XP as their has been no compelling reason to upgrade to Vista that outweighs the negatives....but that's not a problem....just buy computers with Vista then put on XP SOE. From my understanding this new licensing restriction will mean if you buy a new PC with Windows 7 you must run Windows 7. Changing OS in a business with lots of computers and old weird expensive software can be a MAJOR PITA. Even mainstream apps like Office etc...can be a pain to change OS if they are customised to suit a corporate network environment.

Question for other IT nerds: are XP licenses still available and if so for how long? I just get Vista licenses atm and downgrade to XP....surely they are not going to force new PCs to be either Win7 or Vista....for a long time yet? either way this is a f*** in the ass. If you can buy XP licenses still then that's great but what about when we decide the time is right to move to Win7? Then we have to buy new licenses.

I think this is the first bad news I have heard about Win7...and it is seriously bad news for nerds :(

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I'm pretty sure I'm becoming a Windows fanboy as we speak due to Windows 7 and new things like Visual Studio 2010 and stuff. Dammit.

Its OK 3dee. I love the iPhone :(

haha suckers, no confusion here:
apple is s***, windows is ok, perl is dreamy

Then we have to buy new licenses.

Thats what normally happens when you upgrade to a new version of Windows?

Its OK 3dee. I love the iPhone :(

I wonder what happens when someone becomes a Windows and Mac fanboy. Head asplode!

It would be like a homosexual catholic.

Coochie - any IT 'nerd' (I presume you mean someone responsible for the management of a companys IT infrastructure) will know that you need to update your OS every few years and if they don't upgrade from XP to Win7 then they are left with a legacy OS with no security updates being worked on leaving a massive business risk on the desks of all their employees.

MS need to cut the strings at some time in the life cycle of a product as it would become unprofitable to continue supporting older products when the new products are available to use.

The question is, how easy will MS make the upgrade path from XP -> Win7 and so far from what I've seen, there is no option to upgrade.

Windows 7 is f***ing awesome. I really hope my workplace upgrades.

Vista was NT6.0 yes? And Windows 7 is NT6.1 (not version 7)

So essentially it isn't anything 'new'

So I guess by that reasoning, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Mortal Kombat vs DC and Mirror's Edge are all pretty much the same game, nothing new or different between any of those. I mean, they use all the same engine (Unreal Engine 3), with only some minor changes, so they must all be the same and offer the same experience as one another right?

Windows 7 looks decent. when I get a bigger hdd in this comp I'll definitely dual-boot it.

this years osx release looks to be pretty boring. except for OpenCL.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/

With Snow Leopard, the next major version of the world’s most advanced operating system, Mac OS X changes more than its spots, it changes focus. Taking a break from adding new features, Snow Leopard — scheduled to ship in about a year — builds on Leopard’s enormous innovations by delivering a new generation of core software technologies that will streamline Mac OS X, enhance its performance, and set new standards for quality. Snow Leopard dramatically reduces the footprint of Mac OS X, making it even more efficient for users, and giving them back valuable hard drive space for their music and photos.

and that's how you market a boring OS release.

http://brandimpact.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/buzzword.jpg

Thread needs more elves.

http://www.stickfreaks.com/images/ms_coaster.jpg

You said you'd leave the thread :(

(elvis made me do it - elvis > qgl)

MY COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM IS BETTER THAN YOUR COMPUTER OPERATING SYSTEM

LOL THATS SO COOL KAT TELL ELVIS HE IS AN HERO

HE SAYS HIS GOD CAN BEAT UP YOUR GOD!!!

Question for other IT nerds: are XP licenses still available and if so for how long? I just get Vista licenses atm and downgrade to XP....surely they are not going to force new PCs to be either Win7 or Vista....for a long time yet? either way this is a f*** in the ass. If you can buy XP licenses still then that's great but what about when we decide the time is right to move to Win7? Then we have to buy new licenses.

Not for purchase directly. Only (big) OEM still sell this, i.e. Dell. I recently just purchased a Dell Vostro notebook with XP SP3 installed ("downgrade" from Vista Business LOL).

They won't keep this up for long though...

haha f***ing dicks.. MY OPERATING SYSTEM IS BETTER THEN WIN7 SEE I"LL PROVE IT BY SHOWING MY DISTASTE OF WIN7 BY PUTTING MY UBUNTU CUP ON IT

THEN THE WORLD WILL KNOW I AM GREATEST

omg for f***s sake kat we get it....and we still dont care!!!

anyone ever noticed how all windows releases (from win95 onwards) are based on the year they were? and how originally like windows 3.1 was based on the 'version' or core or whatever its called... and yet, after switching to naming windows based on the year... the ONE freaking time they go back to naming it the 'next version' of the 'core' just so happens to be 7 when its freakin 6.1.


s'like they are saying...

Whiney nerd: this is vista with a sp!
Microsoft Spokesman: NO ITS NOT! look, LOOK, we called it windows 7! not 6.1, but 7!

Having run this for <10 minutes I can say that Vista is a whole different Windows...

Normally I tollerate kat but ffs, give it up.

Ubuntu is okay, but it wont replace windows for a lot of users.
Go read the ubuntu forums, even THEY are saying that windows 7 is f***ing good.
I feel confident that when the team went from 8.10 to 9.04 they didnt rebuild the OS from scratch so what the f*** is your point about windows 7?

all that the photo shows is that he has waaaaay too much time on his hands to order a cd to make a f***ing coaster to take a f***ing photo that isnt even f***ing funny!!!

Before you question it, I run Kubuntu 9.04 at work AND windows 7 on my other machine.

It's funny cuz it's noobuntu.

I got up too late for this, quite annoyed cuz it sounded interesting.

HE SAYS HIS GOD CAN BEAT UP YOUR GOD!!!

Torvalds Vs Gates ... man that'd be an awesome fight.

There's nothing funnier then developers endlessly preaching about their pro open source bulls*** operating systems, expressing their "rebellion" by putting an ubuntu mug on a windows cd is a fine example.

The reality is they are douche bags, the rest of the world and big business aren't going to waste time with these operating systems, they're going to use windows.

So unfortunately guys like that are always going to be douche bags.

I've been running Windows 7 for a while now and its sweet as pie.

all that the photo shows is that he has waaaaay too much time on his hands to order a cd to make a f***ing coaster to take a f***ing photo that isnt even f***ing funny!!!

He didn't order anything. He got it given to him.

Torvalds Vs Gates ... man that'd be an awesome fight.

Who are your bets on?

http://lwn.net/images/ns/lca/d-linus-2.jpg vs http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/bill-gates-1983.jpg

I don't know but can you stop s***ting the thread?

elvis has Windows 7 as his coaster for his Ubuntu mug at work.

Yeah she casually drops in the name of this Elvis dude like we're all meant to know him.

It's like me saying "OH YEAH ABDUL RAHMAN MAHMOOD HAS A MAC AND SAYS ITS COOL"

Get the f*** outta here.

Kat is the most successful troll in QGL history.

"OH YEAH ABDUL RAHMAN MAHMOOD HAS A MAC AND SAYS ITS COOL"

So what you are saying is terrorists prefer macs ?

Nah, that's not what i'm saying, that's what ABDUL RAHMAN MAHMOOD is saying.

You know ABDUL RAHMAN MAHMOOD yeah? he is friends with MUSTAFA HAROON MALEEK JABBAR, the one that always trips over his own beard at work.

Get the f*** outta here.

Kat is the most successful troll in QGL history

Really quite accompolished.

haha suckers, no confusion here:
apple is s***, windows is ok, perl is dreamy

2/3 spook not bad ;)

ok ok i'll get off the perl hate train