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Topic: great news for hotmail users
vbcoder
Posts: 102
Location: Townsville, Queensland
for those of you who still use hotmail from msn dayz, ull be pleased to hear that gmail can now download all messages from hotmail like it can from almost any other mailbox. this happened only recently, maybe 1 or 2 weeks ago?

great news.

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Triamks
Posts: 2109
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
WoW
Skitza
Posts: 8754
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
has pop3 and imap now as well doesn't it ?
greazy
Posts: 930
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Does it? Because last time I remember, they blocked that stuff that users will never use because its horrible and complicated. Only paid members got it.
Mantorok
Posts: 3420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this happened only recently, maybe 1 or 2 weeks ago?
You've been able to do it for ages. Hell, someone asked about it here a while back (edit: it was Pinky). All you had to do was take the settings used for setting up Outlook Express and slap them into Gmail.

last edited by Mantorok at 23:12:14 21/May/09
Hogfather
Posts: 2786
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Yeh they gave POP3 and IMAP out as freebies around the same time they started calling bloody everything Live.

Once they opened that up it was a very short moment before Google turned it on in GMail cos its pretty much trivial to do.
thermite
Posts: 1559
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
awesome i didn't know this either
infi
Posts: 12320
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
just switch to gmail already ffs
Martz
Posts: 2035
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gmail / hotmail? what's the diff?
Superform
Posts: 5610
Location: Netherlands
i recently had to back up s*** from work and i noticed there skydrive is now 25gig...

i like hotmail again
kos
Posts: 1302
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

just switch to gmail already ffs

I tried to switch to Gmail, just couldn't stand not being able to turn off the conversation "feature".

Went back to Hotmail and love it, plus my @live.com.au email addresses look way more pro than either of @hotmail.com or @gmail.com.

Plus the http access integration into Windows Live Mail for Hotmail kicks ass, way better than either of IMAP or POP3.
Spook
Posts: 25075
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you are definately doing it wrong kos

gmail is king
sparrow
Posts: 371
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I agree, gmail is where it's at, but why would I want to get all my hotmail spam sent to my gmail? It defeats the purpose of having a spam email!
louie
Posts: 15
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i never knew about the skydrive in hotmail...thanks superform, you just made me $150 !!!!!!!!!!!
tequila
Posts: 2228
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
buy your own domain and use it with gmail imo
Nailbomb
Posts: 2690
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Yeah, you can't buy a domain and point it to a hotmail account like you can with gmail. It's possible to point a domain to a Microsoft Live@edu Mail accounts which allows full exchange access to Outlook 2007 clients but it's a bit of a pita to set up, plus you need to be an educational entity to get access to it.
greazy
Posts: 933
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hotmail is horrible. I don't know why I continue to use it over Gmail. I get several junk emails a day. At least half get through the s***ty filter. Even things like CUM IN HER ASS TONIGHT? as the subject. Don't know why it's a question.
3dee
Posts: 3525
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
because its horrible and complicated.

It is?

Also since when have MS granted IMAP and POP3 free to everyone? Last I heard Live mail granted POP3 but only via the Plus upgrade (and thus sucked because its not IMAP).
Thundercracker
Posts: 1990
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gmail for life
$ack
Posts: 551
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Pimpin gmail since '03
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26926
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

I have decided the only way gmail can work as well as it does is that they actually send spam themselves which they know is spam, so it makes their spam filter looks awesome
3dee
Posts: 3529
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I get ridiculous amounts of spam with my Gmail account (a convenience account). I never signed up to any spam!
Pinky
Posts: 1584
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

I have been getting a lot of spam in my GMail inbox lately - the kind with a hash key in it, which seems to avoid the spam detection quite well.

Yeah, I use GMail to download my Hotmail messages via POP3 as someone said above. All my accounts are managed in GMail - I love it. Don't know why you would want to turn conversations off, kos, best feature ever. And archiving. The half-way house between trash and 'should I keep this email?' but when you want a clear inbox.
infi
Posts: 12323
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've been getting more than the normal spam too on gmail. Maybe 2-3 a day. :S
Hogfather
Posts: 2789
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Problem with spam and public email providers is that its easy to work out valid email addresses by spamming name combos and looking for "address is wrong" postmaster replies.
vbcoder
Posts: 103
Location: Townsville, Queensland
i need more than 5 accounts to download mail from in gmail. how do i do this?
greazy
Posts: 935
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
3dee I was being sarcastic, its really simple to setup and all you really need is about 4 fields of information.
mooby
Posts: 4797
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ffs, i remember hotmail and pop3 back in the 90's
3dee
Posts: 3531
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Lol yeah. But when did Live Mail give IMAP access?? I thought Microsoft didn't know what IMAP was.
Hogfather
Posts: 2797
Location: Cairns, Queensland
ffs, i remember hotmail and pop3 back in the 90's

Yeh then they made people pay for it for a decade or so. Lame.
Spook
Posts: 25077
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gmail spam filter is easily the best spam filter i see:

my work spam filter fails massively;
thermite
Posts: 1563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not being able to manage labels in any intelligent way is still a big let down. People have made greasemonkey scripts to do it - but gmail keeps changing so those don't work anymore. I'm stuck with a list of 500 labels I have to scroll through.
TicMan
Posts: 4628
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
I finally had enough of managing my own email and redirected my domain to gmail. I get about 400-500 spam emails a day and even though SpamAssassin is AWESOME it still managed to let slip about 5% of it. Ever since changing to gmail I've had maybe 1 or 2 spam emails in the past 6 months.

LOVE GMAIL, I AM GOOGLE FANBOY!
kos
Posts: 1303
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Don't know why you would want to turn conversations off, kos, best feature ever.

Because all my official emails like bills and payslips were disappearing by getting chunked together in no controllable way, why would I want to click on a payslip from a month ago and scroll down to see my latest payslip?

For those people who think I'm crazy for liking hotmail, don't worry I agree that the web interface sucks, and never use it. I just like how it works with the Windows Live Mail program.
Superform
Posts: 5611
Location: Netherlands
just use both ffs

i have different email accounts for different shizzle..

for signing up to my fav porno site i use yahoo.. for real email i use gmail and for skydrive and other crap i use hotmail

easy peasy
Hogfather
Posts: 2816
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Oops I lied, there doesn't seem to be manual IMAP.

The various incarnations of Windows Live for desktop etc are imitating it, probably by web services or something.
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