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mongie
Posts: 6219
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I've noticed a lot of spam appearing on the forums in recent times... HOW DO YOU STOP IT?
edit: There is a captcha on the signup page... so its this actual people trying to spam the forums? What f***s! discuss. |
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| #0 09:16am 27/04/09 |
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Saint
Cainer
Posts: 2349
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The only sign up form is on AusGamers now and it has a captcha, so people are really going out of their way to sign up to spam.
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| #1 09:15am 27/04/09 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26658
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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We have captchas on signup. I have a few ideas for it but basically atm its easier just to delete them and permaban the retards doing it - they appear to be actual humans paid to shlock their cheap products rather than bots (as near as I can tell, anyway). I was thinking maybe just stop new users starting new threads with links in them, which I think would probably do the trick. I thought you meant spam on email, of which I have noticed a f***ton of in the last week or so. |
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| #2 09:16am 27/04/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6220
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Yeh, I thought I'd check for a captcha since that seemed fairly obvious.
Maybe a system when someone has to be "approved" before they can start threads? Or have a certain number of posts? are you able to tell us how many users sign up per day / week? |
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| #3 09:18am 27/04/09 |
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Obes
Posts: 7496
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Maybe a system when someone has to be "approved" before they can start threads? Or have a certain number of posts? I don't like that idea because occasionally a new person will actually join and start by posting a "hi" thread... which we then all s*** in. |
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| #4 09:24am 27/04/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6223
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Another forum I'm a member of has a separate forum for new members.
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| #5 09:29am 27/04/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 24855
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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qgl/ausgamers is big biznes now:
google searchers bring the spam(mers) |
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| #6 09:49am 27/04/09 |
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HerbalLizard
Posts: 3096
Location: Queenstown, New Zealand
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What about making a wait time of 48hrs or so before first post
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| #7 10:43am 27/04/09 |
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sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 4234
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I wouldnt be too harsh.
How would we get by in life without fake nike trainers and anti-floppy penis pills, I ask ya? |
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| #8 10:50am 27/04/09 |
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Hogfather
Posts: 2633
Location: Cairns, Queensland
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occasionally a new person will actually join and start by posting a "hi" thread... which we then all s*** in. Haha its funny cos its true :( |
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| #9 10:54am 27/04/09 |
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TicMan
Posts: 4534
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Make an authentication system like old school RPG's. Ask a bunch of random questions that only;
a) Long time users would know the answer to b) New users could be arsed finding the answer using the Wiki. Here is some examples to get you started; Q: When will his funeral be? Q: What two things can be added to a post to make it worth reading? Q: When Spook was wrong about vacuum cleaners, what is the second letter of the fourth word in the 3rd paragraph? Q: Out of the various doctors in the health system, who is the best to ask out on a date? |
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| #10 11:00am 27/04/09 |
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3dee
Posts: 3401
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Q: When will the next QGL LAN be?
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| #11 11:05am 27/04/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 24857
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Q: List all of chubs hobbies, in alphabetical order:
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| #12 11:26am 27/04/09 |
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TiT
Posts: 2208
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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make it so they have to reply 10 times before they can post a thread
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| #13 11:37am 27/04/09 |
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sparrow
Posts: 329
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Make an authentication system like old school RPG's. Ask a bunch of random questions that only; Maybe not quite so obscure. I've been here for ~8 months and I only know the answers to half those questions. Does that mean I can't post s*** links? |
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| #14 11:43am 27/04/09 |
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TicMan
Posts: 4536
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Clearly your new thread rights need to be taken away then.
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| #15 11:44am 27/04/09 |
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Raven
Posts: 3582
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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so then we have spam as replies to threads rather than just new threads? All that does is clutters up existing threads, and stops spam on the threads index.
Bots are too good at beating CAPTCHAs. |
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| #16 11:47am 27/04/09 |
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scuzzy
Posts: 13370
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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If the sign ups are being done in an automated fashion, theres a few things you can try to get around bots that scrape forms:
- Timestamps in hidden fields that check when the form was created vs submitted. - Unique ID's in hidden fields that expire once a form has been sucessfully submitted. - using CSS/JS (display:none) to hide a "honeypot" field, that when filled out by a bot, blocks the sign up process (could have the next next to it "do not fill out") |
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| #17 12:21pm 27/04/09 |
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Furgle
Posts: 874
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using CSS/JS (display:none) to hide a "honeypot" field, that when filled out by a bot, blocks the sign up process
^^ I use that one. It's gold. |
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| #18 01:21pm 27/04/09 |
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reso
I can't read
Posts: 4672
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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sounds alright scuzzy, except it'll probably take 10 years to implement in to ausforums.
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| #19 01:23pm 27/04/09 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26663
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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If the sign ups are being done in an automated fashion, theres a few things you can try to get around bots that scrape forms:afaik, they are not |
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| #20 01:25pm 27/04/09 |
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tequila
Posts: 2075
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I can't remember who did it originally, but I loved the idea
let them think they posted the link, but just don't display the post/thread to anyone else Ie, they sign up - go to post a thread with a link it it show it to them, they think they're on to something but the rest of us don't get bombarded with it |
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| #21 03:12pm 27/04/09 |
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DecayingCorpse
Posts: 1649
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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charge people.
i'd pay $10 something awful style. let em spend them money and ban em if they spam. |
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| #22 03:17pm 27/04/09 |
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maxe
Posts: 13782
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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disable signups completely and make people hunt you down for a change to get an account
or recommendation only somehow involve a "VIP section" and turn the wank factor up to 11 sparkling_diamond.gif sparkling_diamond.gif sparkling_diamond.gif sparkling_diamond.gif sparkling_diamond.gif sparkling_diamond.gif so awesome |
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| #23 03:38pm 27/04/09 |
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TicMan
Posts: 4538
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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There already is a VIP secti.... oh wait, I've said too much.
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| #24 03:52pm 27/04/09 |
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reso
I can't read
Posts: 4673
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It's where QGL LAN announcements are made.
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| #25 03:57pm 27/04/09 |
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Pinky
Posts: 1386
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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FaceMan speaks sense in the VIP section. |
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| #26 04:42pm 27/04/09 |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26667
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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disable signups completely and make people hunt you down for a change to get an accountYeh, I like these ideas too |
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| #27 05:05pm 27/04/09 |
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mongie
Posts: 6227
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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invite only for the "QGL" forum would be ok... but wouldn't that kinda be bad for "Ausgamers" ??
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| #28 05:07pm 27/04/09 |
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Fireblood
Posts: 9177
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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seriously, trog has already said it :
I was thinking maybe just stop new users starting new threads with links in them, which I think would probably do the trick. Stop users starting threads with links in the post (make sure they cant edit to put a link in). Then once they hit 50-100 posts then they can go for gold. Also make sure that no variations.....ie no "www " "com " |
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| #29 07:29pm 27/04/09 |
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whoop
Posts: 13856
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Security image and valid email address that is NOT a free host like gmail or hotmail, must be a business or isp email. Then if they spam just ban that email address and if more pop up from a particular domain block that entire domain.
invite only for the "QGL" forum would be ok... but wouldn't that kinda be bad for "Ausgamers" ?? There's already an invite only qgl forum, no one ever posts on it :( |
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| #30 07:59pm 27/04/09 |
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spidz
Posts: 10381
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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While we're implementing new things, how about a feature that doesn't allow Maxe to post pictures of himself?
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| #31 08:06pm 27/04/09 |
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E.T.
Posts: 1858
Location: Queensland
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FaceMan speaks sense in the VIP section. Hey dont dis Faceman Pinko. He got me free mofie tickets by getting locked up in a time capsule for the next 25 years. |
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| #32 08:51pm 27/04/09 |
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sparrow
Posts: 330
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Security image and valid email address that is NOT a free host like gmail or hotmail, must be a business or isp email. Then if they spam just ban that email address and if more pop up from a particular domain block that entire domain. I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before, and as pointed out then, lots of valid forum users use hotmail and gmail as their main/only email address. last edited by boba at 09:25:55 28/Apr/09 |
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| #33 09:25am 28/04/09 |
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Spook
Posts: 24861
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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While we're implementing new things, how about a feature that doesn't allow Maxe to post pictures of himself? im pretty sure that would stop maxe from posting fullstop |
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| #34 08:27am 28/04/09 |
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Pinky
Posts: 1390
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Security image and valid email address that is NOT a free host like gmail or hotmail, must be a business or isp email. Then if they spam just ban that email address and if more pop up from a particular domain block that entire domain. Terrible idea. If you're trying to build a community, that is. Who uses their ISP email as a main account anymore anyway? That's rule #4 in Intarweb n00bness 101 - don't tie yourself to your ISP by becoming reliant on your ISP email account. |
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| #35 09:54am 28/04/09 |
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maxe
Posts: 13784
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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While we're implementing new things, how about a feature that doesn't allow Maxe to post pictures of himself? then why even have QGL in the first place? |
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| #36 10:04am 28/04/09 |
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 3081
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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haha crazy idea make qgl and ausgamers seperate
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| #37 01:50pm 28/04/09 |
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