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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26476
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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We're constantly getting deluded with people who can't figure out how to download files from the Internet. While this might sound like they're just newbs, the reality is a lot of time it's made quite complicated by poor software. Google Chrome, for example, can't download files greater than 2.1GB (really? aren't we in 2009?), a problem shared by lots of other software that can't deal with the sheer number of bytes that are in files that size. Some people are still running FAT32 so hit file size limits (the biggest file you can have on FAT32 is 4gb). Some download software won't correctly resume downloads for large files, or some won't prompt to resume by default and will overwrite your half-completed file, making you start again from scratch. I wrote a tutorial for using WackGet with AusGamers which I still think is the easiest way to do it, but I'm wondering what download managers do you hardcore pros use to download files and do they obviate the problems I mentioned above? (FWIW, I use wget) |
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boba
Cainer
Posts: 3348
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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DownThemAll
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mission
Posts: 4929
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Google Chrome, for example, can't download files greater than 2.1GB Are you cereal? I use chrome but rarely download large files so I've never come across this limitation. If that is true, then they have a problem on their hands. |
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| #2 10:23am 08/04/09 |
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ravn0s
Posts: 7618
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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DownThemAll qft |
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| #3 10:29am 08/04/09 |
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Mantorok
Posts: 3330
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I just use Opera. I'm pretty sure I've downloaded files over 4G with it, so I don't think it has any FAT32 style limits.
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Triamks
Posts: 2014
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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DownThemAll |
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TiT
Posts: 2121
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Obes
Posts: 7432
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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DownThemAll boba speaks the truth |
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Jim
Posts: 9534
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah mission it's one of the reasons I gave up trying chrome
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Strik3r
Posts: 1576
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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reso
I can't read
Posts: 4661
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I use Firefox with FlashGot extension and then FlashGet Classic installed (it'll auto catch downloads from IE7 as well I think).
Sounds like a lot but I have never switched to DownloadThemAll or anything like that yet as I know how to use FlashGet decently (increasing/decreasing threads etc). From what I've seen DownloadThemAll is alright, as long as you're using Firefox, or does it come stand alone as well? last edited by reso at 11:37:09 08/Apr/09 |
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fade
Posts: 3496
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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+1 for DownthemAll
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| #11 11:39am 08/04/09 |
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Phooks
Posts: 1303
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download statusbar addon for FireFox is all I use. simple and easy
However the Downthemall OneClick! feature is really handy. |
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Dan
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Posts: 9165
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I still swear by flashget (the classic version, not the one with torrent support) and the flashgot firefox add-on.
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| #13 11:47am 08/04/09 |
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infi
Posts: 11916
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah DownloadThemAll is the shizzle.
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euphoria
Posts: 1082
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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DownThemAll+1 |
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Dan
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Posts: 9171
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The thumbs down for downthemall is that if firefox crashes (for any reason, not even related to your large download) it takes your download with it. Separate application with a firefox control add-on ftw.
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Spook
Posts: 24704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i feel like im missing out;
ive never downloaded a file this big :( |
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demon
Posts: 4230
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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so... getright 5.2b isn't the goat download manager!?!?
times, they be a changin' :/ |
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Obes
Posts: 7436
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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The thumbs down for downthemall is that if firefox crashes (for any reason, not even related to your large download) it takes your download with it. Separate application with a firefox control add-on ftw. Never had that happen ... maybe gay erotic sites cause Firefox to crash ? |
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Midda
Posts: 3415
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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DownThemAll.
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HeardY
Gaelic newb
Posts: 16046
Location: Ireland
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I know it's not really a download manager, but bit torrents?
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26492
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I know it's not really a download manager, but bit torrents?I've been using torrents to support/backup big downloads for ages because they're generally easy for people to use, plus they have the added advantage of being able to repair large files. I don't like BitTorrent as a distribution mechanism (when there's a good HTTP alternative), but sadly most BT software appears better than a lot of regular HTTP software which, amazingly, still can't deal with large files (srsly, Google, what the f***). |
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partyhat
Posts: 1185
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Internet Download Manager is a good one, used it for a few years and updated regularly and heaps of cool features.
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Zak
Posts: 1893
Location: UK
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I have downthemall (larger stuff) and the download statusbar (everything else) both installed on firefox. Both work great.
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Skitza
Posts: 8695
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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whoop
Posts: 13756
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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We're constantly getting deluded with people who can't figure out how to download files from the Internet.If by internet you mean ausgamers/bigpond/gamearena then I've found I can't download from any of them without turning off kerio. I can download from any other site on the internet with kerio (before it became sunbelt) running without any problems. If I try from those 3 I get a few kb into the file and the transfer stalls. as for downloaders, I just downed a 4.2gb file from bigpond with opera, seems to have worked just fine. |
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Superform
Posts: 5460
Location: Netherlands
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maybe just start loading files as torrents
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Insom
Posts: 2896
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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downthemall for all your linux iso needs
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Mitch
Posts: 190
Location: Western Australia
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flashgot + free download manager ( i know it sounds bad but it isnt :\ ) Has support for sites like rapidshare/megaupload and a few other sites like that. |
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Midda
Posts: 3416
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Trog, are you sure about the 2.1GB file size limit in Google Chrome? I just searched for some info about it, and the first result was this thread. Didn't really find anything else. Admittedly, I only put about 45 seconds of effort into it, looking at the first two pages of results, but still, I'd have expected it to be well documented.
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sLiNky
Posts: 1063
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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^^ That's what I use. I use free free download manager for pretty much everything. Everything except for what I download off newsgroups.
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natslovR
Posts: 6161
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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All my large files come in torrents everything else I download with chrome
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twat
Posts: 237
Location: UK
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what is over 100MB that you would need to download from the internet?
seriously... i dont dload game demos, what else? |
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Jim
Posts: 9540
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Trog, are you sure about the 2.1GB file size limit in Google Chrome? I just searched for some info about it, and the first result was this thread. Didn't really find anything else. Admittedly, I only put about 45 seconds of effort into it, looking at the first two pages of results, but still, I'd have expected it to be well documented.which thread? look it's really easy to test - go to a site like bigpond files or any other site which has linux iso dvd's larger than 2gb and try to download one. you'll get an error and when you expand it, you'll see a webkit error explaining that the file was too large twat: linux isos, software installs |
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Jim
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Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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MoGs
Posts: 599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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lol good old GetRight ... bloody hell its ages since i've heard that name....
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26495
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Just tested Chrome beta 2.x and large file downloads work fine in that, so at least it should be fixed in the next release. |
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Dan
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Posts: 9177
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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what is over 100MB that you would need to download from the internet?The Age of Conan trial client is 14GB , big files are just a natural progression of online distribution. |
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MoGs
Posts: 602
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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14G for a trial client ... f@ck that!!!!! Besides who plays AOC anymore :P
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Pinky
Posts: 1260
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
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Just an honourable mention to jDownloader for automating free Rapidshare downloads and those kinds of places. |
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Nitro
Posts: 1720
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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Who the f*** uses download managers anymore.. that's for dialup kids.
Anything big you just use utorrent at least that's what I use for all my linux distros. I've got fibre to the node at 30mb/s in my new joint. Hauled down at over a meg a sec last night. Lovin it. |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26505
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Anything big you just use utorrent at least that's what I use for all my linux distros.Lots of stuff still isn't distributed by torrents. Also,torrents suck for a pretty long list of reasons that I won't enumerate here, but they're non-optimal for large file distribution if you're trying to keep traffic localised. I've got fibre to the node at 30mb/s in my new joint. Hauled down at over a meg a sec last night. Lovin it.Nice! Welcome to cable like 5 years ago :) |
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twat
Posts: 239
Location: UK
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Lots of stuff still isn't distributed by torrents excluding game demos... that would be? The i think the biggest thing I dloaded was SP3 for xp ~50MB |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26549
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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flashget f***ing sucks, I have just decided |
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Jim
Posts: 9563
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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twat: linux isos, software installs |
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26551
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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excluding game demos... that would be?Oh, I missed this. Well OS updates are a good example - service packs, patches, etc. iTunes doesn't come from a torrent. I'd say a signfiicant # of the Linux distros I mirror don't have a torrent up for the release still. |
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Twinsen
Posts: 275
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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+1 aswell for jDownloader
so annoying when u get a download broken up into X peices, with this awesome program copy and paste all links into it, and let it handle it all, it even extracts the archive when finished!!!! |
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reso
I can't read
Posts: 4662
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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you know if you just let me download a file with 5 threads there would be no reason for flashget to spam retry, so why not just let me have 5 connections? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 26552
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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you know if you just let me download a file with 5 threads there would be no reason for flashget to spam retry, so why not just let me have 5 connections? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :Dyeh that is actually probably the easiest fix to the problem, except it means we can only serve like 1/2 the # of people simultaneously |
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Obes
Posts: 7467
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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except it means we can only serve like 1/2 the # of people simultaneously double the servers and the pipe! |
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Jim
Posts: 9566
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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needs ftth
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