running vista... i installed an old sata drive i had from a windows xp box and it's now sitting as D:\ (c:\ being my drive with windows on it) the problem is whenever i touch files under d:\ uac pops up asking me if i want to cancel or allow. I've tried setting all ownership for the files and subdirs to be my new user... anyone know how to get around this without disabling UAC ? thnx

You need to find the key to the Delta Complex.

why have uac on at all?
its f***ing annoying;

You need to find the key to the Delta Complex.

1 Gold star

I agree.

+1 for killing UAC on first login...

Move files off drive, format using vista, copy files back? Maybe there's some file permission set somewhere vista doesn't like.

+1 for killing UAC Vista on first login...

Fixed.

Vista recently blocked me from installing Firefox on a fresh Administrator account, gg.

You need to find the key to the Delta Complex.

lulz

You need to find the key to the Delta Complex.

lol, classic, you don't get much better than that..

btw what was microsofts aim of UAC??
Annoyance is the only one I can think of..

^^ It's supposed to help secure your PC against rogue software just installing itself or doing naughty things to system files but yeah after a while it becomes more of a nuisance than anything.

+1 for UAC

Adds extra level of security to user or auto-triggered events. I am only as annoyed by UAC as sudo under Linux - both I think are necessary and both I can handle the annoyance.

What sort of pages do you guys visit that needs so much security?

:looks left:

:looks right:

Who's asking?

it doesn't matter what sort of pages you visit, this is how you should use a computer responsibly

Thanks whoop!

Also anyone with windows vista who turns things off like the file version rollback feature, background file indexing, uac, windows protector, system restore etc etc moss well be running widows 2000 or xp.

People who use all these features and have had them each contribute to helping from day to day (like i have seen uac save me from malware at least twice before) would understand why vista is such a great operating system now that its been patched up a bit.

Then again, like most of the trollrats on this thread, it's much easier to 'bahh' along with all the other sheep and not actually test/experience the world yourself just follow what everyone else says/does! kgogo you 'smart' sheep!!

I can appreciate what UAC is trying to do. I have it disabled because I feel it's a bit -too- invasive, but I think I'll leave it enabled in Windows 7 (they've scaled it back somewhat, from what I've read). Even still, it's no more annoying than sudo in Linux, which I've dealt with no worries.

moss well be

"may as well be"

I can appreciate what UAC is trying to do. I have it disabled because I feel it's a bit -too- invasive, but I think I'll leave it enabled in Windows 7 (they've scaled it back somewhat, from what I've read). Even still, it's no more annoying than sudo in Linux, which I've dealt with no worries.

Agreed.

Its certainly useful from a security perspective but its used way too much. Mac OS has a similar feature (but actually asks you for your password) but only pops up on the rare occasion you need to install something or change a driver or some critical system change, not when you want to change the wallpaper or maybe drag an icon across the screen (overly exaggerated examples which I'm sure are completely false...).

The difference is, when Mac OS X asks me for my password to continue, its usually once every few days or a week, whereas Vista will be asking me to continue several times a session.

But then again, I've practically forgotten what viruses and malware are like in Mac OS X... **hint hint nudge nudge Microsoft**

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But then again, I've practically forgotten what viruses and malware are like in Mac OS X... **hint hint nudge nudge Microsoft**

Not quite sure what you're hinting at Microsoft to do, there. Reduce their marketshare to a minority?

I've practically forgotten what viruses and malware are like in Mac OS X

then i'm sure you've also forgotten how easy it is to install and run almost all software available that doesn't come pre-installed on your mac not to mention games...

Not quite sure what you're hinting at Microsoft to do, there. Reduce their marketshare to a minority?

Same, no real point of that. Eh. See below I guess.

then i'm sure you've also forgotten how easy it is to install and run almost all software available that doesn't come pre-installed on your mac not to mention games...

What? Drag .app bundle into "/Applications/" and off we go? I haven't had any security problems with my Mac at all. I don't even think of security risks on my computer anymore. If I can completely forget about "security risks" on my Mac then maybe Apple has done a decent job (or maybe noone cbf making any malware)...

If I can completely forget about "security risks" on my Mac then maybe Apple has done a decent job (or maybe noone cbf making any malware)...

Not saying that Apple don't do a good job at security, but I think the latter of your statement as more to do with it than anything. I'll be very surprised if the iPhone doesn't end up having f***loads of malware floating around soon (if it doesn't already), considering it's getting a large amount of marketshare in the mobile phone business.

What? Drag .app bundle into "/Applications/" and off we go?

I think he was talking about software availability more than ease of installation.

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UAC is annoying and in your face because the software and apps you are using - including some MS stuff! - is requiring access to protected parts of the OS or file system. Things like HKLM (machine registry), boot sector, root area of drives, writing out to the reserved Program Files folder etc etc.

This isn't a new thing - since NT 4 (earlier?) users have had limited access to stuff, and the best practice guidelines in how to work with permissions in Windows has been around forever. Its just that everyone ran their computers with local admin and vendors got really lazy, so a lot of bad practices became de facto normal.

Proper seperation of user and admin context had to happen for Windows to become more secure. A random exe just shouldn't have as much power as it does on most XP desktops where the user is an admin. UAC itself is no more invasive than su or any other method of assuming root or admin when needed.

Its just that lots of software needs you to do it just to run at the moment. Fortunately its also a big fat arrow pointing at chuckleheads to fix their code :)

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