The first trailer for the new Star Trek is up on Apple's usual site. Like most Hollywood movie trailers these days its a hodgepodge of random action scenes that doesn't really give you any insight into the movie; without actually knowing s*** about it it looks like an "origins"-type story showing how young Kirk and young Spock started off.

Looks flashy but doesn't inspire me to see the movie; I'm no hard core Star Trek nerd but I'd actually like to know more about what the hell its about rather than seeing a bunch of s*** blowing up.

The only Star Trek series I actually enjoyed 100% was Deep Space 9. Watched all 7 seasons (one season per week) and it was fantastic, though nothing can beat Babylon 5 when it comes to SciFi. Voyager was alright but lacked interesting story arcs, the episodes were almost standalone and completely off-topic.

I can't remember the previous movies much, but this new one looks to be trying to reach and impress too wide an audience so I expect it to be fairly shallow in substance. The excessive action I could have excused as you don't want to bore people with shield polarity-inversion technobabble (which is actually 90% technically incorrect anyway), but bra scene? Seriously ...

About time some more Star Trek stuff came out!

Being somewhat interested in ST and having seen most of the recent movies (read: TNG+), I hired out Voyager. It was good but man the technological explanations and claims are so incredibly far out it made it slightly funny as well as listening to them trying to figure out how to pull themselves out of a black hole or allow some big nebula sized lifeform to heal itself by using some tachyon photon negative polarity beam of healingness.

That being said, this movie probably will be good to see (havent watched this new trailer yet). I saw the Spock in Zach Q. as soon as I saw him in Heroes. Bit of a coincedence he ended up as Spock lol.

looks pretty good imo. im not really into star trek, but i have seen a bit of enterprise and the first 2 next generation movies and enjoyed them.

bleh. looks like it'll be a fukn disaster imo. director of mi:3 & lost (s*** & yawn), screenwriters of transformers & mi:3 (2 pieces of s***) & a whole bunch of noob actors playing the most familiar characters from the original star trek. more proof that hollywood is too fkn conservative to try NEW IDEAS !@#$! rather than re-hash stuff that worked well before.

the first few episodes of the original star trek series stated that it was the first time that kirk & spock had met was when kirk was assigned to be captain of the enterprise. so you can forget any sort of continuity & just expect some lame soap opera with lasers n spaceships.

I should've continue ST Enterprise.. It was starting to get a lot better but they f***ing chopped it :( f***ers.

What with the nude Vulcan and all

Can't wait to watch Sylar crack open Kirks head like a tin can.

Bahaha.
Kirk: "I [lengthy pause, thoughtful expression] dont know why youre [lengthy pause, incredulous expression] eating my brains..."

Spock: "On the contrary, Captain. I'm not eating your brain. I am examining your speech centers for abnormalities."

Kirk: "But it... [raises eyebrow]... hurts. "

last edited by 3dee at 15:41:48 18/Nov/08

star trek needs an adult franchise. its far too PG.
i love sci-fi but 90% belongs on the disney channel.

i cried when data lost his daughter

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=euwBiiiWcYE

Clearly aimed to appeal to the non-Trekkie mainstream crowd. My housemates fit into this group and were impressed, at least..

I'm sure there'll be follow-up trailers that concentrate more on the story/theme of the film..

Eric Bana as some crazy alien and Simon Pegg as Scotty bump this up to something I'm interested in.

J. J. Abhrams or whatever the f*** his name is made a pretty good movie out of another s***ty franchise (Mission Impossible). He can probably do the same with this one.

It was good but man the technological explanations and claims are so incredibly far out it made it slightly funny as well as listening to them trying to figure out how to pull themselves out of a black hole or allow some big nebula sized lifeform to heal itself by using some tachyon photon negative polarity beam of healingness.

Is that the episode where they jammed voyager in the creatures wound and used the shields as some sort of charged whatchamacallit to make it heal itself?

Also you have to remember it is science fiction, back when the original ones first came on I bet people were all like my word what is this "beaming" they speak of, what rubbish terminology is this? Now we're more tech savvy and know all the secrets of the universe I guess they have a hard time thinking up new words for stuff that don't actually mean anything so people can't say that's not how a charged particle plasma canon works, what nonsense.

edit: One thing I did always like about most of the star trek series (haven't seen enterprise) is that the ships are the stereotypical metal crates with grates for floors, sheet metal for walls and power/utility cables for ceilings. The ships were always well lit with none of this flickering light bulls***, even when they're being blown up they're still lit up by emergency lights most of the time. One thing I didn't like, mostly about voyager, was how brittle the ships are, one good hit from anything and stuff falls apart. Seriously, how can a ship capable of travelling 11ty billion miles per hour and crossing galaxies through black holes be so fragile?

last edited by whoop at 01:04:00 19/Nov/08

Also you have to remember it is science fiction

Well Babylon 5 is science fiction too, created and aired around the same time as Voyager. The difference was Babylon 5's primary focus was more on politics and philosophy, not science/technology. When things went up s*** creek in the story, the characters had to deal with the consequences - often showing themselves several series later as major story arcs. That's what made it so f***ing awesome and gave it the 8.8/10 rating it deserves on imdb.

Meanwhile in Voyager, random technology would come in to save the day each bloody episode when a moral dilemma was faced. Go to Warp 10, mutate into an alligator and breed on some island - that's ok, the doctor will just reverse your DNA changes instantly. Everything back to normal, nothing to see here - problem solved, difficult decision averted, no lessons learned.

Hell, all of their scripts have a "TECH" wildcard term in them and a 'science advisor' comes in and fills the word with something technical sounding later on.

last edited by parabol at 01:43:00 19/Nov/08

If I wanted major story arcs that last for months in a series I'll watch lost. Most series I expect each episode to be neatly wrapped up by the end. This isn't a mini series about some guys struggle to keep control over his subordinates it's an episode about drilling holes in rocks and blowing planets up.**

I'll accept that some series might work with an on going theme but for the most part s*** that drags out loses my attention, curse you ADD.

**I just made up 2 fictional plots, insert your own favourite plots here.

If I wanted major story arcs that last for months in a series I'll watch lost.

Those aren't story arcs, that's planting seeds only to make s*** up as you go along and pretend you were planning it all along :)

I'll accept that some series might work with an on going theme but for the most part s*** that drags out loses my attention, curse you ADD.

It works well when they have 90% of an entire series written before starting filming, as was the case for B5. Didn't drag on (except for a stuff-up near the end when they got unexpected funding and had to expand a season), plenty of progress in each episode, everything planned carefully, etc.

For shows like Lost, Prison Break, Heroes and even Battlestar Galactica to an extent it can get very boring when s*** drags on while they're making up the story without much direction.

last edited by parabol at 02:39:06 19/Nov/08

Story arcs that sometimes drifted into Soapy styled Sci-Fi.

Now theres an Idea !