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Topic: No referendum on Recycled Water
Triamks
Posts: 1179
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Just saw this on the Channel 9 news:
Premier Peter Beattie and his deputy Anna Bligh announced the Government has scrapped its controversial plans for a $10 million referendum on the issue, involving 18 councils.

Recycled water still a no go

I believe this is a good move. As it's clear that we need appropriate measures to deal with the water shortage and holding a referendum was going to take too long and waste too much money. Plus the $10 million is going to be added to the rebate system which will be a very good thing if more households and business become water wise.

Of course, the Toowoomba nay-sayers aren't happy! They should just hack it, stop being selfish and therefore accept that it's the right move for everybody.
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XandraX
Posts: 796
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Thank God.
Le Cock
Posts: 3973
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Common sense prevails!!!

Toowoombians are absolute morons. With the choice of recycled water or no water, they chose no water.

Bout time the government stopped pussying around fearing the wrath of uneducated voters and made a decision for the good of the people.
Spook
Posts: 17658
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
good
saves us from the retarts that would vote no
Dan
Special text
Posts: 7366
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
saves us from the retarts that would vote no
heh, I'm suddenly reminded of that old "get a brain morans" pic.
paveway
Posts: 4394
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah well when toowoomba have no water, they can f*** off cause we won't give them any of ours spook needs it all to wash his hair
WetWired
Posts: 3071
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
about f***ing time
Booyah
Posts: 6946
Location: Indonesia
Que infi with his anti-labor/pro libral usual kind of ass cum jazz.
parabol
Posts: 2923
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Recycled water still a no go

I don't understand the title.

Doesn't "no go" mean it's not going to happen?
reload!
Posts: 3479
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
awesome.
Hogfather
Posts: 1105
Location: Cairns, Queensland
Its explained in the article.

Its a go-go for SE QLD, but the other cities have decided not to commit to it yet.

Edit: stupid headline still, the major story is the recycled water for QLD, not what NSW thinks about it ...
Bah
Posts: 2349
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
spook needs it all to wash his hair
Lucky you dont have that problem.
paveway
Posts: 4395
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
absolutely
Kat
Posts: 8711
Location:
Another who thinks this is the best move he has made in the last year
smashingpumpkin
Posts: 478
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Fantastic! Smart move not letting the idiots give their misinformed opinions.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20007
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I love how the media are portraying this as every Queenslander hating the move
Kat
Posts: 8712
Location:
I know, it is like the thoughts of QGL don't reflect the entire state of QLD. Like pfft sif
Fnukle
Posts: 4861
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think its fantastic a decision is getting made and am a fan of beatie.
However I still believe desalination plants are the way to go.
Desalt seawater, pump to dam, water gets treated as per normal, sell salt for moneys, once dam is full shut it/them down till needed again.

They are costly to run however they will only be run till the dams are full.
I don't believe they'll cost more to run/install than laying new pipework EVERYWHERE and the new treatment plants, pumps etc.

Obviously tho there must be some reason I'm unaware of since this isn't the favored plan and hasn't even been spoken about. Anyone know the reason this is not the option to go for?
Crusher
Posts: 174
Location: Newcastle, New South Wales
http://www.abc.net.au/science/expert/realexpert/desalination/01.htm

pumping the brine from desalination plants back into the ocean can cause bad marine life damage if not done correctly


More info/faq here

http://www.abc.net.au/science/expert/realexpert/desalination/
CHUB
Posts: 1928
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I would drink bog water.

What is the bloody problem.
אּמּצּבּ
Posts: 511
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
pumping the brine from desalination plants back into the ocean can cause bad marine life damage if not done correctly

Then why pump it back into the ocean?
This is a problem we have everywhere, we just drain our waste into the river/ocean and forget about it as it flows away.

(not taking a dig at you crusher)
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 3192
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
"It will be treated to the extent that is world accepted ... there will be no skimping on health standards,'' Mr Beattie said.


riiiight just like the hospitals...oh wait..
XandraX
Posts: 797
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Brine just needs to be pumped out past the immediate coastline so that it doesn't get stuck by tidal motions, if I recall correctly. Easily solved.
TicMan
Posts: 1555
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Now we just need this same logic applied to daylight savings.
shad
Posts: 1750
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Good work on saving people from their own stupidity.
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 1439
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
IMO we should just pipe the recycled water into the dams and add it to the rest of the suply. If the uneducated f***wits of this state have a problem with it, they can either a)waste their money on buying bottled water (and whatever else ACA and TT are telling them to waste it on) or b)die.

Problem solved.
sc00bs
Posts: 2166
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
how god damn hard is it to build a refining place to make sea water drinkable.


global warming -> melting ice caps -> more sea water
-> problem solved

last edited by sc00bs at 07:26:53 29/Jan/07
Idol
Posts: 609
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The dams don't need to be full, do they. On the news "omg Dams are only at 20% capacity". Uh.. so? What does that mean...
nF
Forum Hero
Posts: 12806
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
dams aren't much use at 0% though
Scooter
Posts: 737
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dam's need to be atleast 25%, Or we'd have no-where to go Water Skiing!
Actually, if Moogerah could even reach 10% i'd be f***ing cheering.

Thumbs up from me.
Opec
Posts: 4398
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
About time no point in wasting time and money for votes for something we desperately needed.
BoBa
Cainer
Posts: 2494
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Wouldn't the s*** they are pumping out of the dams now cause they are so low, be almost as bad as "bog water". There's gotta be a layer of the most disgusting s*** on the bottom of dams
ara
Posts: 1025
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
yeah, that is where we use to dump the bodies from the qgl carpark.
Predator
Posts: 251
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

It is interesting looking at:
http://www.toowoombawater.com.au/recycled-water/faqs.html

The multiple barrier approach means that we don’t rely on just one treatment process to keep the water safe – for example if the reverse osmosis plant somehow stopped working, the ultrafiltration, ultraviolet disinfection and advanced oxidation would between them remove all the things that might cause a danger to human health.


If reverse osmosis fails, it is the only one in the system that removes hormones from doing some cursory research. Perhaps they could have used a better example considering this seems to be the most contentious issue regarding recycled waste water.

They aren't all redundant, and I don't believe people doubt that current systems in place throughout the world don't remove pathogens.
E.T.
Posts: 519
Location: Queensland
The water will probably improve with this treatment. I'm another who wont complain. Nobody would even know that recycled water is used except for all the media hype.
Insom
Posts: 1256
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
but but all the oestrogen in the water will give me bewbs
demon
Posts: 2621
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
good move i rekn. referendums just cost a lot of money. after ~1billion years of animal life on earth, all water is recycled.
Xy
Posts: 1221
Location: Mackay, Queensland
*Squeeses own new set of bewbs*
f*** yeah! High five!
tung
Token Black Man
Posts: 4590
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the problem with desalination is the huge amount of power required for it, what they said is for a desalination plant to do the work of the recycled water plant that they are hoping for, you would need 6 new coal power stations to provide the power.

so i say, go to desalination, and to nuclear!
E.T.
Posts: 520
Location: Queensland
Nah, this'l be fun, I'm looking forward to the day you are all drinking my bodily output :p
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 20011
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Surely if you're REALLY concerned about the quality of your water, you can 1) run your own filtration system and 2) boil your water before you drink it
ara
Posts: 1027
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
what is funny is that people don't realise that all water is already recycled.

they think that after it gets flushed down the drain that it never gets used again.

water is a finite resource, if it gets recycled naturally or gets recycled by man what is the difference?
TicMan
Posts: 1560
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
water is a finite resource, if it gets recycled naturally or gets recycled by man what is the difference?


I think you used too many big words in there for Toowoombians, so all they know is "poo water drink bad".
Spook
Posts: 17660
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hay, its not just toowoombians

mexicans (nsw) people wont drink their own poo water either
(well, their politicians wont let them anyway)


last edited by Spook at 13:18:46 29/Jan/07
ara
Posts: 1028
Location: Sydney, New South Wales

the NSW govt are easily worst state government in Australia.

- our public transport is horrible.
- our schools and hospitals are under staffed.
- we are running out of water.

- they won't release more land for housing
- they sell the state out to private companies to get road infrastructure built.
- they break contracts with private companies opening the state up for massive law suits.
- they merged Sydney and South Sydney councils to try and gain control of Sydney planning rights.
- when they lost the election for the new bigger Sydney Council they legislated so could they over rule Sydney Council to appease their developer buddies.

if they win the next election i will seriously be considering moving interstate.
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1419
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well things aren't all that merrier up here buddy
paveway
Posts: 4397
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
don't come up here, we don't need anymore of you dirty mexi's
Mr Hardware
Posts: 1420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ha ha so true
Denominator
Posts: 529
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The pipeline for recycled water is allready under construction. Bottled water goes through less filtration than you would think.
Zaphod
Posts: 157
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
dams aren't much use at 0% though

Heh I can imagine him driving along the highway, the fuel guage hovering just above E, saying "oh but the tank doesn't need to be full..."
Denominator
Posts: 530
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its up to little johny now anyways

http://ninemsn.com.au/


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21134044-2,00.html

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has announced residents of his drought-stricken state will be drinking recycled water by end of next year now that dam levels have reached 23 per cent.



Prime Minister John Howard has backed Mr Beattie's water recycling plan, agreeing that other state governments will have to go down the same path.


last edited by Denominator at 15:46:48 29/Jan/07
TicMan
Posts: 1565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I don't get it, even with a helper javascript link people still manage to f*** up linking to news.com.au
Cl1nt
Posts: 545
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
noobs these days.
FurryBear
Posts: 2
Location: Queensland
"Damn this water tastes like s***"....couldn't help that one.

Water is water....freedom of choice means that you either drink it, move, buy bottled water....OR DIE (or a combination of the above).

Either way you look at it, we are plagued with wild weather, pollution, global warming, rising seas......why not treated crap. Some people will say NO to recycled crap, then pour money into goods and services that will help destroy the planet....or themselves....Go Figure Also, I have seen enough kids pull the odd nugget out of their nappy and shove it into their mouth to know that there must be something to it....hahaha.

Seriously though....the safest alternative is BEER....or Rum and Coke for ME!
mscactus
Posts: 27
Location: Queensland
Or send the bloody southerners back where they came from so that we will have enough water!!!!!!
ara
Posts: 1034
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Seriously though....the safest alternative is BEER....or Rum and Coke for ME!


one of the main ingredients of beer and coke is water you noob.
Insom
Posts: 1258
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
time to start drinking more tasmanian beer
FurryBear
Posts: 3
Location: Queensland

I suppose we all get to be noobs at some time or another.

last edited by FurryBear at 11:42:58 30/Jan/07
Kat
Posts: 8714
Location:
I know that there is more water going down our 'sewage' pipes than just toilet. I am sure toilet waste is something like 10% of it.

But yeah, let's focus on the poos and wees of this world rather than gutter run off and grey water
TicMan
Posts: 1572
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I nominate that comment for an "ara award" for stating the obvious.


Welcome to the school of when to stay a lurker.
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