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Topic: Networking question
fingers
Posts: 363
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hey guys, im not very good with networking and this problem is starting to really bug the s*** outta me

i used to have access to a router, but its been taken now so i dont have it no more. Main computer connect directly to internet, and has 2 network cards. My computer is hooked up to one of the network cards in the main computer.

Ive run the XP network setup thing, made main computer the "connects directly to internet and other comps connect to this comp" thing, and my computer is setup to connect directly to the main comp.

The problem is, the connection keeps dropping out occasionally, and if the main comp restarts, the connection does not re-establish on my computer :( I have to go through the whole bulls*** again in the setup and magically it works after i spend about 30 mins going back and forth re-establishing the connection :| i dont know what makes it tick, but could anyone here give me ideas on howot establish a permanent setup that the computer does not have to think about anything??

cheers for any help and sorry if i sound confusing
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fingers
Posts: 364
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
tosser, f***in tosser.

i said i USED TO HAVE access to a router, i didnt ask whether i SHOULD by a router
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darius
Posts: 276
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Pingu for the win lol
whoop
Posts: 9141
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the windows xp wizard is a piece of s***, I stay clear of it.

I may have missed it but who is your isp?
Spook
Posts: 14618
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i dont have any dramas using ics on xp

u must be doing it wrong if u do have dramas
Bah
Posts: 1433
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Try setting their ips manually maybe?
`ViPER`
Posts: 104
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
all you need to do is go into the properties of the network connection that has the internet connected to it and go to the advanced tab and select allow other computers to connect through this connection.

XP will then manually assign 192.168.0.1 to the other network card you have and will turn on dhcp for the network card.

The other pc should then just pickup the DHCP server and get an IP and off you go.

Saying that, I have seen that once you have used the wizard it screws things up for some reason, even if you seemingly have put back all the settings.

Also, delete and network bridges that may have been created by the wizard, you dont need them.
Jim
Posts: 3705
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i used to have access to a router, but its been taken now so i dont have it no more. Main computer connect directly to internet, and has 2 network cards. My computer is hooked up to one of the network cards in the main computer.
this is how I currently have mine set up and don't have the hassle you're describing, which means you should be able to do it yourself too without the hassle

Ive run the XP network setup thing, made main computer the "connects directly to internet and other comps connect to this comp" thing, and my computer is setup to connect directly to the main comp.
I've never used that wizard, all I've done is right-click 'my network places' and click properties, right click the icon for the nic I have plugged into my cable modem and then click the advanced tab, and check the box under 'internet connection sharing' that reads 'Allow other network users to connect through this computer's internet connection'. This causes windows to automagically give my second nic an ip address and run a dhcp server which handles the configuration of other machines in my house.

As for the automation of the actual internet connection on the gateway machine, well I use bigpond cable and they provide a little util which automatically logs in at bootup or if the connection is dropped, it rarely seems to have any issues keeping the connection up. Chances are there's a way of automating whatever your connection is too.

I'm not sure why yours drops out, one possibility is your gateway computer's power saving setup - there's a chance you have windows set to turn off devices after a period of time to save power (default I think), and windows might be dumb enough to power down a nic despite it being in use to trasmit/receive data, simply because no keyboard/mouse input is being detected on the gateway computer. Just a guess. It could be anything really, even just one of those dumb issues that doesn't seem to have any resolution other than a format and reinstall.
Obes
Posts: 3607
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Jim is full of it, he used all the fat loot he stole off trog who was drunk with power at them (this was loot trog stole off term at qgl who was busy looking at porn) to buy a big f*** off router and some one smart to drive it all.
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 6830
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Do you have a firewall running it could be causing problems :/
0z
Posts: 1175
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Devil Linux Router on a usb memory stick ftw.

last edited by 0z at 09:19:05 26/Sep/05
fingers
Posts: 365
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cheers heaps all, ive tried everything youve said and its showing some signs of progress.

one thing ive noticed that keeps tricking me, i have to pull the power out of the cable modem if i change/f*** with the networking connections to the modem itself.

all i can do now is wait till i get ahold of xp cd and reformat host computer cause it is in a serious state :(

im connected to optus broadband also. i have blackice firewall as well, i keep having to re-allow my connection to the host computer cause it keeps changing the ip address for some reason. what gets me really cut is i have access to everything on the host computer and vice versa, but the net just doesnt seem to like working for me :(
pARODY
Posts: 86
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

first suggestion.. ditch blackice.. get zonealarm if you want a firewall.. or use kerio winroute to share the connection (it also comes with the kerio firewall)
Keato
Posts: 37
Location: Netherlands
I know how to fix this !
Obes
Posts: 3656
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Keato charges mansehcs for solutions
Mantra
Posts: 1361
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Jim is full of it, he used all the fat loot he stole off trog who was drunk with power at them (this was loot trog stole off term at qgl who was busy looking at porn) to buy a big f*** off router and some one smart to drive it all.
So that's where all the phat lewts went! And Keato doesn't know how to fix s***.
Merlyn
Posts: 479
Location: Other International
Ok, i have a problem with a home network as well.
I have 2 Winxp machines (1 english pro, 1 swedish home)
now...
The pro is the gateway to the net and can see the home machine. it cannot access files from it however and keeps getting this message
\\Home2 is not accesable. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.
Now the home machine is connecting to the net via the pro machine. It can use the internet but cannot see or access the pro machine.
I used the xp-cd home network setup wizard.
Any help is appreciated, thanx.
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