After several years of development, slipped release schedules, a leaked alpha, stunning screenshots and movies, and the biggest anticipation for any game, Activision and id Software have announced that Doom 3 has gone gold and we can expect to see it on shelves in early-to-mid August. In classical id style, Todd Hollenshead made the announcement via his .plan before the official press release came screaming down the wire and out to gamers across the world, drooling, slavering and no doubt acting like the hellish fiends that will be present in Doom 3 - the sequel to one of the games that changed the face of gaming and set the scene for how we play today.

If you're looking for a single player, action/adventure title with a strong horror theme and the absolute latest in cutting-edge PC graphics, Doom 3 is definitely going to be something you want to check out.

I feel funny all over

while we're all here, ie trog, can we get some an ausgamers mirror for that painkiller multiplayer demo, the latest battle for middle earth video and that prince of persia 2 video?

Why cheapen this thread talking about lesser games?

PS, Doom 3 links:

• Movies:
  • Doom 3 MacWorld video: The first time Doom 3 was unveiled)
  • Doom 3: The Legacy video: The first E3 trailer.
  • Doom 3: E3 2003 Trailer
  • Doom 3: E3 2004 Trailer.
• Screenshots
• My Doom 3 preview
• Doom 3/id Software interview.

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This represents the dawn of a new era in gaming.

As excited as I am for Doom 3, I am even more excited about the prospect of other games utilising and expanding on the D3 engine.

New MOHAA, COD, AvP etc games on the D3 engine..

w00t!

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about time! bets on that it just looks pretty, and gameplay is crap.

My life up to this point has now been validated

video card manufacturers everywhere are spooging in their trousers!

Trog: the link to your Doom3 preview is incorrect - try this one: (you missed a p)

http://games.bigpond.com/pc/previews/?id=1925279


Does anyone have anything authoritative on the multiplayer side of things? I know it's primarily a single player game, but once that 24 hours is over, does anyone have anything authoritative on the state of the netcode etc?

yeah, they played it all day at qcon 2k3

more doom3 links www.planetdoom.com has some up to date stuff

www.doom3portal.com is rawking along and usually the first with the news

and (self pimp here) #doom3 on etg, where you can utilise 100 crazy american fans spamming news as soon as it comes in.

ive just had to upgrade my computer to process your sig

I wonder how much the rights to the engine will cost for other companies to use and when it will become available. If D3 is meant to be an awesome single player game it will probably be longer than usual for any other games with the D3 engine to come out. I think I read somewhere that it costs $500 000 to use the Q3 engine, so I imagine D3 will be even more exy.

when q3 originally came out, it was a million for the engine (or so i remember).

i wouldn't expect d3 to sell for much less than a mill for the engine.

Or, you could pay a few hundred dollars and license the torque engine which is now being upgraded with full support for specular lighting, enviroment mapping, bump mapping and all those other fancy things.

Out of that million dollars, $100k is probably the cost of the engine, and $900k is the cost of spending a day with John Carmack.

yeah, and you could use linux as a desktop operating system for games also.

Well presumably the business ppl at id (who make up the majority of the company?) would be able to ask for as much as they wanted, and people would pay for it regardless, especially if they market it before other inferior engines like Hlaflivedtwo or whatever that s*** looking game coming soon is called.

yeah, and you could use linux as a desktop operating system for games also.

Despite your sarcasm, that is a very good idea.

I've noticed that with the linux ports of previous ID titles, they run very fast. Much faster than their windows counter-parts.

well thats one gaming company, what about the rest?

What the f*** is with all the troll in this thread.

How abot unless you have something good to say, can it.

As to hemerage's comment in the other thread.

f*** you Doom, you look crap
Games are already out which look REALLY nice, without being cheesy.

You're a stupid f*** stain, PC Gamer have awarded a 94%. If you dont think that it could possibly be a remotely enjoyable game, you're a f***ing idiot.

And with that, Im off to empty my testicles at the new screen shots.

Now what video Card to get??? I heard the Geforce 6800 are the perfered vid card for the game.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjM3

These look the goods i think. If i don't see them in the next few weeks i might just go a X800

well id say thats worth dusting off my qgl forum login, and saying 's*** YEAH!' :D


im hopin we'll see Trog lining up in EB in the city at midnite in his Imp costume to grab the first copy on sale :P

w00t!

Oh, you can grab a Albatron 6800U from Computer Alliance. Such a waste of money though, $969.00.

http://www.computeralliance.com.au/parts.aspx?qryPart=3945

Excellent. Now I can pinpoint the exact day when trog's heart will break from unfulfillable hype :)

trog doesn't much care about single player games any more, even ones id make. I'm waiting for Zoid to Threewaverize it :)

btw dont know if ppl are aware but there is not going to be a DVD version of the game. Personally I think this is a stupid move by id but it's theres to make.

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Well, that sucks. Any confirmation on how many CD's it's going to be?

btw dont know if ppl are aware but there is not going to be a DVD version of the game

So what's the xbox version going to use, hopes and dreams and the perpetual motion machine in Jim's garage?

im hopin we'll see Trog lining up in EB in the city at midnite in his Imp costume to grab the first copy on sale :P

We will definitely need someone to take pics!!

3 to 4 cd's apparently... which is intersting considering a game like UT2k4 takes up 6.

So what's the xbox version going to use, hopes and dreams and the perpetual motion machine in Jim's garage?

Well obviously that will be on dvd but im only refering to the PC version, as far as Im concerned the xbox version doesn't exist.

btw dont know if ppl are aware but there is not going to be a DVD version of the game.

That's the _rumour_ - its not in the press release or ToddH's .plan so my belief is pending

Personally I think this is a stupid move by id but it's theres to make.

I think you'd find it'd be Activision's stupid move, not id's.

3 - 4 cd's

and it's not a stupid move at all.

id clearly stated (hollenshead) in his .plan that releasing it onto dvd is just not feasible, it's still cheaper to put out a 4 cd game, then a single dvd game.

fair enough in my view.

also, bugger waiting for the aus release, import the damn thing imo.

(on review of the .plan i can't find the dvd info, my bad, i'll continue looking for my source.)

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id clearly stated (hollenshead) in his .plan that releasing it onto dvd is just not feasible, it's still cheaper to put out a 4 cd game, then a single dvd game.

Oh, I suck, I must've missed that one.

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That's the _rumour_ - its not in the press release or ToddH's .plan so my belief is pending

Well, I think CNN directly quoting Todd Hollenshead proves that it's not a rumour.

I think you'd find it'd be Activision's stupid move, not id's.

I could be wrong but by the sounds of reading that article on CNN, the decision was made by id, not activision though activision probably were the ones that convinced id to make this decision.

No DVD version is crap. I wonder why DVD's cost more to produce?

no, it's I that suck, it wasn't in his .plan it was on the cnn money article.

I know some gamers are hoping to use the DVD players on their machines for something other than watching movies, but there are downsides," he said. "For us the cost of the goods and the cost of the replication and having to make two masters just isn't worth it."

taken from http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/14/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm?cnn=yes

If you wanna read the review, someone over at Overclockers has put it up there in the Games section.

it won't be up for long, scanning or reproducing the review is a breach of copyright, and aparently pcg aren't happy about all the scans going around.

No DVD version is crap. I wonder why DVD's cost more to produce?

It may even be the same but not worth spending double the amount to make both a cd version and a dvd version, and id probably aren't willing at this stage to cut off making a cd version completely...

i think if other big games are doing this like UT2k4 and Fry Cry and are seemingly doing well regardless, i can't understand why id can't do this since doom3 is probably going to be bigger than both games (the hype alone suggests that it'll far surpass them). It'll be interesting to see if Half Life 2 makes it to DVD.

My question would be though, if you have paid for a cd version of the game, is it legal to put all the cd's onto one DVD for personal use?

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carn quake 4!!!

well thats one gaming company, what about the rest?

Epic with UT2004

I can hear the BFG-IS-CHEATING wankers already!

having to make two masters just isn't worth it."

Wonder why that is?
I guess that they can't crack their own copy protection...

wahoo. got an excuse now to upgrade the old p3 500 : )

While its all good talking about it. Its an idea to pre-order, don't care if its at EB Harvey's or a dodge store wherever pre-order it.

We already know its gonna fly off the shelves, but to save missing out, pre-order it.

i preordered mine with EB the other day, i want my little putta figurine :)

Why are people getting upset when other people say doom3 looks s***? It's their own opinion for f***s sake, You expect to come here and not get others opinion heard?


On topic, Doom 3 looks cool.

your opinion about other peoples opinions is wrong.

And with that, Im off to empty my testicles at the new screen shots.

Where can I empty my testicles too?

hey all,

im just wondering if there is any official word that the 6800 is the preferred vidcard for doom3?

has carmack expressed an opinion on which vidcard / cpu etc should run doom3 best?

it is... but thats always been the case with id and nvidia.

it wasn't always the case. there was bit of a fallout between id and ATI, about the alpha leak.

but that was all rumour, nothing was ever confirmed or denied.

How abot unless you have something good to say, can it.

Haha coming from you that is rich ... not to mention the forum you are saying.

Pot, meet kettle.

You're a stupid f*** stain, PC Gamer have awarded a 94%. If you dont think that it could possibly be a remotely enjoyable game, you're a f***ing idiot.

Quite frankly I wouldn't trust PC gamer as far as your mum can squirt my jizz from her nose.

im just wondering if there is any official word that the 6800 is the preferred vidcard for doom3?

i read that the 6800's and the x800 are roughly even for doom3.

/me cries - my 9800 pro is only midrange now :(

While its all good talking about it. Its an idea to pre-order, don't care if its at EB Harvey's or a dodge store wherever pre-order it.

We already know its gonna fly off the shelves, but to save missing out, pre-order it.

Is the pre-order version 6 cd's or a dvd?

haven't u read the rest of the thread? there isn't going to be a dvd version

boba is such a random

it wasn't always the case. there was bit of a fallout between id and ATI, about the alpha leak.

yeah, i knew that but that wasn't quite what i was refering to, i was talking about back as far as quake 3 days, i remember hearing a long time ago that quake3 was optimized for nvidia chipsets but i can't remember if this was confirmed or not.

Ultimately your probably not going to notice a huge difference between the nvidia and ati cards, nothing you'd physically see while playing the game anyway.

Hey sorry to go offtopic... (sought of) but has anyone played the originals lately??? for old times sake???

Nostalgia is kewl!!! Mucho old sck00l

/me cries - my 9800 pro is only midrange now :(

Erik - I'll give you $200 dorrar for it

Hey sorry to go offtopic... (sought of) but has anyone played the originals lately??? for old times sake???

Everyone that is anyone has been playing ZDaemon Doom on GameArena.

Erik - I'll give you $200 dorrar for it

i only bought it about 6 weeks ago, so no.... :P

u goin to switchlan troy?

This represents the dawn of a new era in gaming.

This also represents a new era in hardware sales! (namely vid cards) I bet the Hardware manufacturers are rubbing their hands with glee.

:)

Regarding the DVD issue.. read the first post in this thread carefully.

Now this guy posted this info a fair time before anyone else so I would hazzard a guess he is on the money.

* Slaps prays quietly to himself that the rumour about the super dbl barrel shotgun still being in D3 is true! *

So when does hl2 come out?

also, doom yay.

September 30, 2003

awesome, preordered it only a few days ago as well.

Time to upgrade;

For people (like me) who dont know much about the s***loads of vid cards avaliable atm...could someone please list a heirarchy of the most decent vid cards with their prices?

Im thinking Radeon 9800Pro ($500?) but feel free to talk me into something more worth while or cheaper.

you can pick up a radeon 9800 pro for around $360 now, and it's a great card, and that's a good price for it

I've noticed that with the linux ports of previous ID titles, they run very fast. Much faster than their windows counter-parts.

You're smoking crack, <1% +/- isn't much faster.

And i qualify that statement by adding that i'm posting this on a linux machine.

Doom3 demo in the next week or so would be good wouldn't it? C'mon Id you pioneered the 'demo' try before you buy thing!!

about teh demo?

Regarding the DVD issue.. read the first post in this thread carefully.

He also says on page 5:

DVD edition is OFFICIALY scratched.... i guess they changed their minds.... we are told to pitch all the boxes for the DVD edition by next tuesday....

appears the only thing we'll have for now is the CD version of DOOM 3....

well spotted...ta

Go the little pinky model!

The bastards only gave me a retarded siderman 2 sticky wall climber ffs "if only i came sooner"

WooHoo. Almost time to get owned online again :)


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i hope they make a 1.4mb floppy box set for old times sakes "please insert next disk"

I cant believe there wont be a DVD version. This makes me sad.

Im annoyed that this is making me consider spending more money on my pc when I wanted to be toning it down for going back to uni :(

i hope they make a 1.4mb floppy box set for old times sakes "please insert next disk"

Similar to ... ?

http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~boldajis/images/ut2004.jpg

Gentlemen, start your engines..

HAHAHA is that real? man please say it is.. funny s***. So I’m assuming it is a little bit bigger then its predecessor right?

jellygoose. Please note the marking on the image, somethingawful.com famous for its users photoshopping.

must... resist... temptation... to... upgrade... computer.... arggggggggggggggggg!!!!!

I don't get it, what's the big deal about it not coming out on DVD?

duly noted, fish just by an Xbox :P

I don't get it, what's the big deal about it not coming out on DVD?

Because it sucks ass changing over the cd's while installing. Like when UT2004 came out, that was like 6 cd's and took nearly half an hour to install the f***ing thing.

8-)

Reverend, just be thankful it isn't as it was when Win95a was released on floppy... from memory it was something like 38 1.44 MB disks. I have a set at work in my office still. Imagine if you lost one of the disks :D.

Or one of em was corrupted, meaning you'll have to backup another 38 and there's no stopping there.

duly noted, fish just by an Xbox :P

already have one... but playing a fps on a console controler is just s***

Agreed ^^

Comming to think of it I dont know how on earth I enjoyed playing golden eye with those controls...

Except Metriod Prime was a blast with the auto lock.

Because it sucks ass changing over the cd's while installing. Like when UT2004 came out, that was like 6 cd's and took nearly half an hour to install the f***ing thing.

Is anyone here old enough to remember Quest For Glory 1 coming out on 10+ disks? Or Tie Fighter, UFO, Rise of the Dragon, Day of the Tentacle, X-Wing, Heart of China, Twilight 2000, or Space Quest 3?
Games were coming out on 6-12 disks all over the place. No big deal. How many times are people expecting to have to install this game?

And yeah, Windows 95 was 25 disks. I have it lying around somewhere with bad sectors on disk 8. :-/
Windows 98 was available on 69 disks for those desperate enough.

Doom 3 on CD? meh.

i remember transfering duke nukem 3d onto my computer from my cousin's.

30 odd floppies i think, or it was 30mb and 15 floppies

I transfered Quake 2 over a serial cable once.

4 hours.

4 hours?

i dont remmeber it taking that long using laplink pro!

yeah I finished xiii on Xbox :) that game rules, I think u get used to it the only reason I’m better at pointing with the mouse I think is because iv played 100's of hours of half-life then tfc then cs and now farcry/beef nam. I want one of those Namco guns from the arcades on my Xbox >:) that would make the job easier.

And yeah, Windows 95 was 25 disks. I have it lying around somewhere with bad sectors on disk 8. :-/
Windows 98 was available on 69 disks for those desperate enough.

Pffft. disk 8? That's nothing imagine the 25th one being corrupted.....

/me rolls into a fetal position...

Well at least if they put it on a DVD you could hit install and walk away and do something while it's installing. Having multiple cd's means you have to be keeping on eye on s***. Farcry was good because of the DVD compared to UT2004.

The reason they dont want to make a cd and dvd version, as quoted on page 3 (i think) was because they dont want to have to pay A LOT OF MONEY for two masters.

Masters are one of the most expensive parts of CD pressing.

That is all.

Masters are one of the most expensive parts of CD pressing.

Why :/

Reverend, aren't you not gonna sooo excited, so you'll sit there and watch the whole installation!!!

It will be like installing Windows all over again!!! Exciting!!!

Demo: our priority was finishing the game first and now we are turning our attention to the demo. I don't have any information to share regarding any specific content, but I don't believe that we have
ever disappointed in that regard in the past. We will release the demo as soon as it's done, but this probably won't happen until after the game has arrived on U.S. store shelves.

Looks like we might have a demo to play just after US release and before it actuallly gets down under (arround the 13-15th August)

Something to fire us up before the full game arrives. sweet.

Something to fire us up before the full game arrives. sweet.

for the rest of us plebs without the uber psycho boxes, a chance to see if our pcs can cope with it!

Doom3 Countdown clock

Doom3 countdown clock using active desktop :P

http://users.bigpond.net.au/khove/images/desktop.gif

6 CDs? Haha! The joke's on them! ...

Wait... no it's not.


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Wow jim, changed your mind a few times eh?

Nah his Edit button was stuck.

All those edits look like a countdown clock for doom to me.

So does the taskbars clock.

So does the paint drying.

So does the grass growing.

I like pressing blahnana's buttons

I miss you Jim :)

jim sux

let's do a brunch

I'll have my people talk to your people.

Disabling the clicking noise makes you happy. Control Panel -> Sounds and Audio -> Sounds -> Program Events -> Windows Explorer -> Start Navigation -> No sound.

Alternatively:

http://www.ua-corp.com/nosound.html

let's do a brunch

Get your people to contact my people, ok?

:)

all our people are talking now, looks like those punkers are making a brunch out of it

Well at least if they put it on a DVD you could hit install and walk away and do something while it's installing. Having multiple cd's means you have to be keeping on eye on s***.

That's why God created HyperThreading. ;-)

BTW, I love the UAC active desktop.

ati x800 is better for HL2
nv 6800 is better for doom3

which do i get :(

oh ati is abit cheaper too

ati x800 is better for HL2
nv 6800 is better for doom3

which do i get :(

oh ati is abit cheaper too

From what I have researched both cards are kick arse pieces of hardware and any gamer could be proud to have either in their rig.

The issues most people tend to dwell on are the feature sets of both. The Nvidia card is defineately a rich in feature card and probably more 'future proof' than the ATI card purely because they support the Shader Model 3 specs. Now wether this is really relevant at this point in time is debatable. Only a few expected titles and some games currently receiving patches to support SM3 justify buying the card for that reason alone. SM3 will most probably not be the 'norm' for many games for some time yet. Also, looking at comparison pics between SM2 and SM3 you aint going to see a lot of IQ difference. Not unless your standing still admiring the scenery and thats generally not advisable in most FPS games. :) The Nvidia card does perform very very well, plus there is that recently added attraction of being able to SLI the cards down the track (in a suitable mobo of course) and doing a fairly cheap upgrade at that point in time. two SLI 6800 Ultras would probably handling any games coming out in the next couple of years I reckon.

The ATI card is also an extremely powerful piece of kit, more a revision of the r300 core but on steroids really. Generally across the broad spectrum of test the cards are pretty equal, but it seems the ATI card eclipses the NVidia card at higher res and with AA/Ansio cranked up.

bit long winded but really as I see it you would be a happy puppy with either card, providing you have the CPU to do them justice. Unless you have a 3ghz or above you are really wasting your time with these babies.

Here a recent 6800 Ultra review with an X800XT in the comparison.

And a review of the his x800xt Pro

Good luck, its a tough decision this time round.

thanks for that Psycho

i think i will end up going for the x800 because of availability and its abit cheaper

I pre-ordered my copy of Doom 3 today and got an EB "promtional pack". Comes with a Pinky pewter figurine about the size of a 20c coin, and a decent sticker the size of a CD. It all came in a box large enough to hold three DVD cases, so the size of the official release box could be scarey. :-)

Hey, says here it should contain a poster too. I didn't get my poster! I want my poster! :-(

Also I hear the original Doom novel "Knee Deep in the Dead" is being sold again to get rid of remaining stocks around the world. I bought it many years ago and I have to say it's one of the crappest novels I've ever read. Utter trash. I ended up cutting out the inside to make one of those secret-compartment books (which I never used). I wish I hadn't now, might have ended up going for something on Ebay.

www.doom3.com is now fully functional with new pics etc and also theres a clip of the new song from Tool,sounds f***ing awesome.

Its in the "media" section :D

I think this is a nice find myself.

Doom3 Footage I have never seen before. Grabbed from a German site dated yesterday and it has a lot of stuff I have never seen in any trailers etc..chaingun, plasma, spawning of enemies..(11.5meg) Comments from the Id team thru the vid as well. Looking scary.

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Nice find there physco never seen that before either.

i think i would get an nvidia card ... ive had my 9700pro for quite a while and there are certain things that piss me off with it such as the control panel section for gamma control of games ... it doesnt freakin work :| my second computer runs a geforce 4 mx and it never has any problems

Thanks Makaveli...you dirty dog, you in the US?...you get it before us!!
arghhhh..

make sure you let us know how spoogeworthy it is as soon as you unwrap it....

:)

kudos Psycho! for the unseen footage. MORE MORE!!!

i like how at the end the guy says "please dont let that game suck" ...

i dunno. for some reason that didnt excite me at all. still looks like running backwards firing is what the gameplay conmsists of.

the first thing i want to do when i get the game, is replace the s***ty shotgun sound effect with the original one. THEN i'll probably have a lot more fun.

is that german site down for all?
i wanna see teh footage

Yeh it isn't working for me ><

i cant

How the HELL does a game go gold before its even released? Or is that just something ID claimed.. tlak about taking tickets on themselves.

this looks good

but i still cant download the movie from here whats the go... can somone host it PLEASE!?

Guys, i just went to fileplanet, signed up and then waited 30 mins to download a 3 minute movie of unseen footage.

OH MY f***ING GOD!

TRUST ME, as a fellow gammer it was worth EVERY second. YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS IN GAME FOOTAGE HOLY s***. There was two bits there like cutscenes that was f***ING scarey even from a f***ing s*** quality trailer! OMFG. I hope they get a demo out before the 3rd.

That tool song sounds really fat, its good to see them aboard the doom train

is that german site down for all?
i wanna see teh footage

No its working ok for me.

3D Gamers are mirroring it as well.

ftp://ftp.planet-multiplayer.de/sites/doom3maps.de/video/doom3g_4.avi

that might help I think

http://www.petitiononline.com/kull1522/petition.html
Sign now!

Die bah. Die.

See thats the kind of attitude that gaming breeds in our young people, and that is especially true for people playing satanic themed games.

Jesus' Second Coming is so vapourware.

haha, I love their storyline.

'We are pretending that the first 2 games didn't exist, and man have accidentally created a portal to hell and the demons are invading!'

They certainly must have brought in the big guns to write that one. I think I even saw one soldier in the gameclip saying "I'm not gonna make it". Can't wait!@!@

Me neither!

I love you dais.

8)

fpot Doom3 is a retelling of the original games, that would be why they are 'ignoring the first 2 games'

They certainly must have brought in the big guns to write that one. I think I even saw one soldier in the gameclip saying "I'm not gonna make it". Can't wait!@!@

Players will revisit the setting introduced in 1993's DOOM but with a more involved story line written by sci-fi scribe Matthew Costello (of 7th Guest and The 11th Hour fame).

What am I ignorant of Dan?

Players will revisit the setting introduced in 1993's DOOM but with a more involved story line written by sci-fi scribe Matthew Costello (of 7th Guest and The 11th Hour fame).

Oh yay, so instead of blue keys we will need to slide things around and solve other obscure puzzles to open doors. I don't know why you posted that, is it meant to impress me? :P

And id suck at singleplayer stories, and they will have to impress me greatly to change my opinion.

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Oh yay, so instead of blue keys we will need to slide things around and solve other obscure puzzles to open doors. I don't know why you posted that, is it meant to impress me? :P

It sounds like you are mixing up storyline with game progression. The storyline of 7th guest and 11th hour was rather good. I still rate 7th guest as an awesome game.

don't worry about Dan fpot. just discount anything he says, and you'll be fine while he dies of ulsers.

don't worry about Dan fpot. just discount anything he says, and you'll be fine while he dies of ulsers.

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/9593/subparslam.jpg

hmmm ok. well thats not comedy gold either. anyway i was being serious. for some reason when i picture dan i get an image of a bald, grey haired man whos always stressed.

i guess wrestling is pretty funny though.

It sounds like you are mixing up storyline with game progression. The storyline of 7th guest and 11th hour was rather good. I still rate 7th guest as an awesome game.

I was joking then :P

Also, I've never understodd why sub-par is used to describe something bad. Isn't sub-par good :/

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I called you ignorant because you referred to a very basic description of the plot outline as a storyline then proceeded to insult the writers of a story you have not read, viewed or otherwise expierienced in any way.

Odie, keep shooting for that rainbow, tiger.

I called you ignorant because you referred to a very basic description of the plot outline as a storyline then proceeded to insult the writers of a story you have not read, viewed or otherwise expierienced in any way.

Well, I have played doom and doom2 you know, and this is a remake (apparently) so I experienced them in some way.

I guess it is possible that they are just releasing that vauge description but in actuality, they will have a decent story there with good characters and some nice twists and turns, but I'd be willing to bet money that they don't. My prediction is that it will just follow the usual pattern, kill the zombies, get through the door and kill the boss at the end. Do you think I am wrong in saying that?

What do you think it will be like? Just take a guess.


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i've heard it's not gonna be like that at all. It will require you to think about your next move not just jump in the room and shoot anything, other wise you'll get smashed.

i've heard it's not gonna be like that at all. It will require you to think about your next move not just jump in the room and shoot anything, other wise you'll get smashed.

If you are playing with the keyboard.

Sign up for Jesus and save your souls from this filthy game!

:)

p.s if you want a really good laugh go check out the 'fan mail' link of this page. awesome stff. People like this really do make the world a fun place to live in.

last edited by Psycho! at 07:50:58 19/Jul/04

The fan art is even better.

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oh i'll keep shooting for something alright dan. i'm suprised you didnt bold that just to be .. well you.

i cant believe i bothered to visit that ban doom3 bs.

Haha nice Psycho

Their reasons for not releasing it on DVD are complete ass. Oh well..

http://www.grimstar.com/doomflop.gif

and you'll be fine while he dies of ulsers.

What's an "ulser"?
Isn't that like some city in Ireland or somthing?

Ulcer then. jesus be picky.

well, it looks like the 6800u is the way to go.

is anyone else at all concerned that nvidia dont seem to have drivers for it yet?

is there an eta on the drivers that anyone knows of?

so is there a dvd version or what?

The next mail is from "labby@pokemon.com", he wrote:

"PIKACHU I CHOOSE YOU!!!"

At first I didn't understand what this email meant, so I decided to ask one of the children if they knew. I was told it is a Pokemon character, which is a cartoon on television. Upon doing furthur research, I've found that this Pokemon cartoon is negative for our nation's youth as well. I won't get into detail as to why I think this, but I think it causes our children to detach from reality. Our Heavenly Father would not permit us to commit such sins, so please keep children away from this cartoon.

haha

more mirth (props to psycho)

The game was made to scare people, and to show them the awesome powers Satan can use on people's minds. It does it so well in fact, that playing this game could cause people to worship Satan!

its been ages since a game was so good it made me worship satan!

heheh I think the cats out of the bag...JC=John Carmack = Satan!

How clever of the old devil to use the Lords initials to suck us all in to his evil plan.

carmack is definitely satan... every time i see him in an interview he looks younger than the previous one! ...twilight zone music...
bring orn the doom3 i sez! i gots phat computer upgrade monies that have been burning my pockets for a while... orrrrrrrjeh.

The Tweaker site is streaming the full two minutes of the Doom3 intro music. Heavy stuff.

hehe yeah Christians suck, oh and fpot; your on, I got $5 that says that the makers of this multimillion dollar game will have put 5 mins aside to make a half decent storyline. ( even if they didn’t wana fork out the cash to make a DVD version, but think about it.. how many people have DVD drives ? I don’t )

I got $5 that says that the makers of this multimillion dollar game will have put 5 mins aside to make a half decent storyline.

okay, but I get to decide if it's a good storyline or not :)

i actually like the sound of that. who is that artist? he has some big names in his list.

lets hope there is also a lot of slow ambient stuff.

I got $5 that says that the makers of this multimillion dollar game will have put 5 mins aside to make a half decent storyline.

Implementing a decent narritive isn't a 5 minute job. If it was, every single form of entertainment would be able to tell its narritive piece with style grace and nobody would get the wrong impression ... ever.

The sad truth is that many people think that implementing narritive is easy, and never develop during the process of whatever it is they are building. Which funnly enough explains why so many games are s***.

Fpot: when the time comes I think we will have to get a poll on the issue; I’m not loosing $5 just because u can’t admit you’re wrong.

Typo as a man who likes his literature (I’m assuming) I think at least u would appreciate that "put five mins aside for a story line" is not literal, I am aware it takes more then 300secs to write a half decent storyline.

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well we'll see hey. i dont have high hopes for it, no matter who wrote it.

but think about it.. how many people have DVD drives ? I don’t

this coming from someone who has a sig with a picture of a game that is ONLY available on dvd.

mounted dvd iso? dost i smell warez? :P

Fpot: when the time comes I think we will have to get a poll on the issue; I’m not loosing $5 just because u can’t admit you’re wrong.

The point I was trying to illustrate and you couldn't pick up on was the bet you proposed was impossible, because whether a storyline is good or not is totally subjective to opinion.

The reason I don't think doom3 will have a good storyline (and I've said this numerous times now :/) is because of the seven games preceding this that have had s*** storylines that didn't intruige me for one single second.

storyline is irrelevant in a game like this anyway, I'm sick of f***wits going on and on about half lifes story, WHAT f***ING STORY? it's story can be summed up in about a sentence, the one thing it did was apply that story well, with atmosphere and pacing.

And the description of doom 3's story is virtually identical to that of half lifes.

Scientists experiment, open portal to bad place, bad things come, fight bad things, go to bad place for big finale, the end.

storyline is irrelevant in a game like this anyway, I'm sick of f***wits going on and on about half lifes story, WHAT f***ING STORY? it's story can be summed up in about a sentence, the one thing it did was apply that story well, with atmosphere and pacing.

Why is it 'irrelevant' in a game like this? It's a game that is solely focussing on single player, I'd say it is pretty f***ing relevant myself. And yeh, hl had a s*** story. I was always puzzled by people who said it was good because from the second I played it I thought to myself that it was exactly the same as doom or quake. The marines coming in to clean the situation up was a nice touch, though.

Examples of games that have a good storyline are System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, which was an absolute cracker worthy of a movie or novel with the sheer depth of character and world interaction.

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the difference is HL incorporated realistic things into the game which people could relate to eg. Earth, scientists, cops (stuff like that) therefor giving another dimesion to the storyline in that respect. This leads to better gameplay (3rd party characters to interact with/co-operate with) and in the long run a better game.

whats the bet we get a QGL LAN announced within a week of doom 3 coming out :D

do you still doing writing akeizm?

but... but... Quake had a storyline that was described in one paragraph of a text file that no one ever looked at ... & it was THE BEST GAME EVAH MÆN! BEST GÆME EVAHHH!!
*demon puts his hands over eyes n ears... lalalalalalalalalalalala best game evah!!!1

quake may have been a good mp game (I hardly played it) but it was a s*** sp game, and that is what it was meant to be.

if anyone is interested u can listen to the doom3 theme song here

http://www.actiontrip.com/link.phtml?http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=2058541&Mytoken=20040718162555

sounds very much like Tool

sounds like average

gimmie the Quake 2 soundtrack any day

Mr Red I’m assuming u know that the game is Farcry and maybe u should do some research before accusing me of braking the law, far cry comes in a box set of 5 cds.

and fpot I do understand that a storyline is something that is up to opinion, that would be why I suggested an opinion poll.

Seeing as reports indicate that a lot of the info passsed onto you the player is via your PDA and that you pick up snippets of info, emails ect between people who were in the station I sort of hope it works like System Shock 1&2..let some plot elements and the 'real' story behind things evolve as you complete each objective ect.. Seeing as they had the 7th guest guy on board to write a story I am also hoping it has a bit of depth and a few twist. Either way it will be a huge cashcow for Id.

In the video phsycho posted i think the guy is talking in it, he says "In this game you'll be able to go through peoples emails and such etc etc".. And he also says "You'll also find out that the portal was open dilleberately by a mad scientest and that he wants to transport the monsters to Earth". Well thats what he said..

so the theme isnt by tool? doh!!!

some more doom3 theme music

http://d3c.ngz-network.de/download.php?view.28

I'm not sure if it's been posted already, but here are some more details on doom3 multiplayer:

http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/531/531027p1.html

---Top Ten Reasons Why Doom 3 Isn't A Satanic Influence---

10. Doom 3 actively encourages the killing of demons. (do we really need another 9 reasons?)

9. Anyone running Windows has already sold their soul to Microsoft, which far outranks Satan.

8. Doom 3 will include an occult filter called "uninstall.exe".

7. All potentially influential young people of today have already been turned to Satanism by Harry Potter.

6. Repeatedly killing friends in deathmatch mode will take our minds of the occult symbols.

5. The delayed release of Doom 3 may indicate that we are, in fact, already in hell.

4. Due to a CD-only release, game installation is expected to finish well after the second coming of Jesus.

3. Gordon Freeman will save us in time for Christmas.

2. The risk of morbid obesity and vitamin D deficiency far outweigh any risk of damage to the soul.

1. 92% of beta testers are reported to have exclaimed "OH MY GOD!" while playing, whereas only 6% exclaimed "OH MY PRINCE OF DARKNESS!". The remaining 2% called upon various other god(s)/godess(ess).

hehehe funny ^

retard.

Official Doom3 Benchmarks:

http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQy

"I can now say with confidence, if you are playing any of the newer 3D games that have come out this year, the odds are that your system will provide a great DOOM 3 gaming experience in terms of IQ and video performance."
- excellent =oD

i just tried to purchase this from amazon, but they refuse to ship it international. will have to use mail forwarding service or wait the ten days

Australia is shipping it at the same time as the US - the week starting August 2.

http://www.users.on.net/~dwegner/Pics/doom.jpg

Bring...it ...on! oooh yeah...

where does it say that ? (i want to know i'm not having a go) I thought it was being released in the rest-of-the-world on the 13th, and that we were included in that like England.

I work at the AU office - we put out a press release saying it would be then (ie week of August 2) but I guess most places ignored it/thought it was just a reprint of the US release. Anyhow, we wanted to make sure that Australia got it at the same time as the US so we sent someone out to the US to pick up the masters and are already well into replication and on track for that week

does anyone know how much Doom 3 will cost ?

around $100 one would assume.

Games market has it for $81.95.

Generally stuff I have ordered thru them arrives the day of release or the next morning depending if release is a Friday, then you might have the excrutiating wait of a weekend involved.

Exactly 9 days 1 hour from now it will be released.


http://www.ua-corp.com/

Phwoar nice Psycho, free shipping and they do direct deposit too.

Games Wharehouse are just as good and reliable too, have used them a fair bit as well.

Sweet, Thanks for the link!

That link of yours is $70 or so delivered.

i preordered from Psycho's first link, so if anything goes bad i know who to go psycho at :)

http://www.gamehead.com.au/product.php?productid=72954&cat=&page=1

gamehead $78.85
$4.95 delivery all around aus.

I pre-ordered from Electronics Boutique and snuck a peek at their To Be Released schedule folder. Doom 3 for PC was down for around the 2nd or 3rd of August (can't remember exactly, early anyway). I assumed they'd just recorded a vague date based on the US release, but perhaps it is coming out here early after all.

How sad is this: Sometimes I stare at my Doom 3 Active Destktop countdown swflash like it's all I'm hanging out for in life. Still, you gotta laugh. :D

go to the store on the day, buy it. a whole lot easier.

yeh right...I like waking up in the mornng and having the fastway guy walk up and hand it to me at my front door.

I had SOF2 and RTCW on the morning of release...like an hour before EB even opened and wihtout the 20k round trip.

:)

After D3 and Gay-Life2 come out will we ever get this excited about a game release again?

yeh right...I like waking up in the mornng and having the fastway guy walk up and hand it to me at my front door.

Let me guess - you then call work stating you have a 'nasty stomache bug' & don't see yourself coming in the next 2 days? :)

After D3 and Gay-Life2 come out will we ever get this excited about a game release again?

Duke Nukem Whenever, I mean Forever! :p

Yeh, s*** yeh...its called STALKER!

After D3 and Gay-Life2 come out will we ever get this excited about a game release again?

Since Quake 4 will be using the Doom 3 engine, I would expect the development cycle to be a little shorter. So that's one game that could be hyped up for the near future. Though I can't imagine what they're going to do with the Quake series. Bigger explosions, maybe? It never struck me as having much of a plot.

I think the exciting things coming up will be the non-hyped releases. After D3 and HL2 come out, it's gonna be mod heaven. The tools they're releasing to developers are like nothing seen before. But you do have a good point as far as this current excitement build-up goes. I think the delay of HL2 has left a lot of people salivating for the next big release. Doom 3 has incredible technology, incredible prequel popularity, and incredible release timing. The last thing I remember being this hotly anticipated was, um, Windows 95 I think (seriously).

I take it you don't approve of "Gay-Life2"?

Well, I finally got my promo poster.

http://afk.sagamers.com/d3.jpg

I still feel kind of cheated.

last edited by DrFrag at 03:48:28 27/Jul/04

say anything bad about d3 or especially hL2 again, and i smaka ur face! :P but seriously... shut up!!!

This is sorta doom3 related i guess...

I'm having major troubles finding someone who can supply 2x 6800 ultra agp cards (for 2 machines, not sli incase anyone thinks im silly).

Does anyone here know if anyone has any in stock?

u should probly just try ebay or somethin dude, easiest way.

say, ur from brisbane right? im in brisbane now waitin for my house to sell. whats ur computer got?

ummm, im not sure i understand what you are asking.
if you are after specs, my current pc is an athlon 2400xp with 512mb ram and a ti4200.

I have an athlon64 3500 socket 939 box with 1gb corsair something or other very fast ram sitting in my room, but it has no video card yet and thats my problem.

I want the machine completed for when doom3 comes out, and it looks like having a 6800ultra for it in around a week is an impossibility

ohhh, sic, hurry and get that dam video card :P ur gonna need it for d3, but it will be sooooo worth it...

Less sig more Doom 3!!!

ohhh, sic, hurry and get that dam video card :P ur gonna need it for d3, but it will be sooooo worth it...

Your sig is about 5 times too high and the words are "YOU ARE" not ur.

Also you're is acceptable.

ur gay dan

Borgarden where u live?

Either way, I take it no-one knows where a couple of 6800 Ultra cards would be available in brisbane? Even getting a GT is impossible by next week it would seem.

Anyone?

so sad borgarden, go back and continue to watch ur anime porn

Since we are all on the side of bragging, my e penis is this big


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heh sorry, hows corsair
TWINX512-3200XL for some more info.

This is sorta doom3 related i guess...

I'm having major troubles finding someone who can supply 2x 6800 ultra agp cards (for 2 machines, not sli incase anyone thinks im silly).

Does anyone here know if anyone has any in stock?

Work your way thru this thread over at OCAU. Lots of retailers expected arrivals dates and such in there. One guy who post is a Nvidia distributor and he pops in now and then to inform people of which stores he has just made or is about to make a shipment to. Good luck as pre-orders seem to snap them up in a few hours but you might get lucky.

anime is cool, so shove it dude, there was anime way before there was decent games on computer, so leave my sig alone, its only a temporary one anyway. and leave my spelling alone, its faster to type, so u can also shove it. oh, and i live in brisbane right now whoever asked...

Actually that Nvidia Dist. just made a post on the last page (page 29 at the moment) of that thread regarding avilability of Ultras and GT's. Not looking good if you are after an Ultra.

Here dude, I fixed your sig.

http://www.members.optushome.com.au/gpahl/man.gif

:P, moo moo...

next time i want ur (yes ur! i said UR damit!, suck my D***!!!) opinion i will ask for it...

next time i want ur (yes ur! i said UR damit!, suck my D***!!!) opinion i will ask for it...

Shut up you annoying c***

anime is cool, leave me alone WAAHHH WAHHH

hahaha you child

man, im pissin everyone off... :P get over it u nerd.

With all the retarded s*** you are posting, you'll probably just be banned soon.

Then we'll be over it.

Borgarden, wecome to the QGL forum. Its a scary place enjoy your stay however short lived it may be.....

fpot comin up to the 10k mark there buddy...you're smokin!


*edited for grammatical propriety.

:)

last edited by Psycho! at 14:16:30 28/Jul/04

Allow me to try and get back on track...

It is "You're" not "your".

=)

In other news, this just in from Planet DOOM. Doom3 wont run on win98/SE ect..

Well there have been rumours flying around lately that DOOM 3 would not be able to run on computers that have Windows 98 or Windows 98SE as their operating systems. Since we here at planetDOOM dislike rumours in all shapes and sizes, we went straight to the horses mouth so to speak and asked Activision themselves. The reply we got was that it is confirmed and indeed true that DOOM 3 will only run on Windows machines that have windows 2000 or XP and not lower. So there you have it, looks like some peoples upgrading woes just aren't quite over yet.

sif you would be using it anyways..

Yeh f*** who the f*** uses those dated pieces of s***.

hey just out of curiousity would you rather play doom 3 on xbox or pc.

PC...

I'd say the xbox would be your cheaper alternative. The PC although would be the better choice to go with for all the other goodies.

Great... now voodooextreme report that amd have dropped prices on processors...

this pc purchase is becoming annoying, now not only is my vid card ludicrously unavailable, but my processor price has dropped as well.

goddamnit all to hell.

hey just out of curiousity would you rather play doom 3 on xbox or pc.

PC wins easily.

pc...

outdated. Also kind of expiry... didn't MS cut of support for the win9x OS's? Or was that just win95?

Sigh, as of 10am american time yesterday doom3 has already been copied and put out to major warez channels.

f***ing warez monkeys asif leek a copy of doom3, everything else.. yeah alright... because there not worth paying for but cmon doom3 is so worth the 80$

The only way you could know that is if you have played it... warez monkey!

Sigh, as of 10am american time yesterday doom3 has already been copied and put out to major warez channels.

f***ing warez monkeys asif leek a copy of doom3, everything else.. yeah alright... because there not worth paying for but cmon doom3 is so worth the 80$

Really....? ;)

i'd be interested to know your source of that info.. cause last time i checked, it hasn't been released by any major group yet.

holy s***, I had that dream last week too!, and yeah it was scaring the piss out of me in my dream

yeh I think you're telling porkies mate. I havn't heard news about that yet either.

Just came back from Indro and was in EB talking to the guys there about it. They have been told they will be getting their stocks delivered Monday ready for Sale Tuesday. Its a goer!

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=22818&category=main

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=197042&st=0

New trailer (bout 18MB)

http://www.fanta.dk/news.asp?nid=1CF3D054-9BBF-4B5D-BE67-AB147CAB97A4

ahahaha

haha dais, seen that over at 3drealms forums too =).

No i hate to say im not telling porkies i have seen it being played in perth at some netcafe's here. The owner of the cafe has paid for certain memberships to some warez forums in america and germany ect and they have had a fully gold version of doom3 for 3 days now mirrored.

The original mirror of the game came from a high up games distributor near the production level.

Some game store owners got their hands on it this week before anyone else in the US, here are some screenshots they took;

http://www.ironnerd.com/temp/

http://photobucket.com/albums/v373/supervillainx/

theres a doom 3 beta on the boards

Cobz: neither of those sites are from game store owners. They are both from people that have bought the game in a store in the US that hadn't yet received word to not start selling it until the 3rd.

Fuk they werent wrong about it being dark.
Time to turn the gamma up.

Time to turn the gamma up.

But that would be cheating...

"Apone! .. I can't see anything in here"

Thats why you have a torch. You cant see as far or as wide and it means that monsters can sneak up on you in your periphery and scare the living f*** out of you... it adds to the atmosphere.

sweeeeeett time to get it i think =) =) =).

I know I'll be pumping up the gamma. My monitor's dark enough as it is.

""its not released in the warez scene though.""

cracked by Prolong - Doom3 currently being transfered by over 28,000 ppl. on one source alone...
These ppl don't waist time...

I just got an email from Berlin Wall that Doom III has arrived and my copy can be collected from 8:00 am tomorrow at either of their King William Street (Adelaide) stores.

Me and a few mates are turning up early at the 45 King William St store (near corner of Hindley & King Willam St). I'll be there from about 7:40. I'll be the one in the shirt and tie (damn those work dress codes!) with a big toothy grin on his face.

PS: I do not work for Berlin Wall, nor am I related to the owner or staff.

there has been alot of doom 3 threads lately, and to be honest, i think it looks absolute s***

but i think that about most games, especially ones with aliens

Sigh, as of 10am american time yesterday doom3 has already been copied and put out to major warez channels.

doom 3 was on the net befor it was even released in australia.. but i didn't check when you made that post so :D