what type, why, how often?
alcohol, about once or twice/week.
cigarettes, no more than 5/day. recent thing, purely self destructive.
caffeine, daily.
cookies, maybe twice/month.
tried coke once.

also, i figured this wouldn't be inappropriate, as there have been countless references in other (read: rave) threads. if not, lock/nuke.

caffeine - as much as possible.
Other than that I’m as clean as a whistle

Caffiene - all the time
Alchohol - as much as possible
Marijuana - no more then once a week

caffeine - regurarly

last edited by Wasabi at 06:25:58 20/Apr/04

Caffeine - 2 cups/day
Alcohol - about once every week or two

Other than that I rarely even have panadol.

Caffiene - Daily
Alchohol - A few times a week

I am not stupid enough to do anything else

Caffine - once a day
Alcohol - once a fortnight, if that. At least once a month tho'
Marijuana - tried it about 4 times due to peer pressure (i'm a sucker) but after seeing what it did to a dear friends brain - I won't do it again.

that's about it - i promised my mum I wouldn't ever inject/snort anything nor take any party drugs.

edit: spelling

last edited by Grosby at 06:37:32 20/Apr/04

I am not stupid enough to do anything else

UHHH OHHHHH

1-2 coffees a day
boozey average twice weekly (on my weekends)
eggy's rarely
pot rarely (prolly never again after last time :P)
fags never

coffee daily
alcohol weekly
pot weekly
pills occasionly
phizz occasionly
ciggies, nevar they are dirty and cause cancer :)
bulbs seldomly (bulbinator is bust atm)
diazepam when i have em

Coffee: every second or third day
Alcohol: once every 2-3 weeks

coffee x (hours in day/how long it takes jug to boil).. long story short, lots of it.
alcohol .. every few days
ciggies .. never anymore
grass .. never again
* .. never

edit: spelling

last edited by teq at 07:38:19 20/Apr/04

I don't smoke ciggies. I'd average one beer every two nights (with several on the weekend). I have a small amount of pot once a week.

Other drugs I won't discuss here.

Now I use caffeine and alcohol, coffee about 10 times a day, alcohol prolly 1-2 times a week depending on cash flow.

In the past I used pot, speed and I used to smoke ciggies.

Say no to drugs kids.

Pepsi Max...Pepsi Max...Pepsi Max...Cycling...Cycling can be a drug too right? :]

Alcohol, weekends only and totaly recreational :]

only the finest colombian crack

coffee!!

coffee, coffee and more coffee!!

mmm... coffee..

last edited by Primal at 08:41:20 20/Apr/04

coffee sucks
alcohol sucks
drugs suck

tea where its at!

Coffee at work
Alcomohol at home or pubs/clubs - mostly on weekends
The occasional ciggie
Other things I have done in the past but now I have a serious job I have no time to stuff around.

If you want to post illegal drug habits on a public forum, that's your business. Please note if the feds ever call us up and say "hey, QGL, can you tell us some more about this user X who smokes crack?", well, you're on your own!

I drink (moderately) once or twice a week; I drink tea every day and indulge in cocacola every now and then. That's pretty much it for me; I don't even like taking panadol let alone any other drugs.

Oh, not sure if it counts, but I also take serotide for my asthma (daily).

last edited by trog at 09:21:30 20/Apr/04

Cocaine 5 times per week

pills occasionly
phizz occasionly
ciggies, nevar they are dirty and cause cancer :)

got irony?

Alcohol: 1 bottle bacardi, 1 carton of XXXX/week (except of partying)
Ciggies: 1 pack per week
All that other s*** is bad m'kay?


last edited by infiNex at 09:56:41 20/Apr/04

I deal heroin and cocaine to trog in my spare time.

last edited by Twisted at 10:11:28 20/Apr/04

I'm high on life. Jesus loves me.

jesus sold crack to little kids and the bible is actually just one big acid trip. sif jesus wasnt the king of rec drugs

Are bulbs included in this?

Also, I had a puff of a joint once. Tasted like burning.

alcohol pretty much everyday - no i'm not an alco I just like a beer with my steak and a glass of red with any other dinner.

other than that, never touched a ciggy and did a fair bit of pot in my younger days 15~18.

I also take anti inflammatories regularly due to so many old/current footy injuries

Caffiene
Alchohol
Ecstacy
Speed
Ketamine
LSD
Magic Mushrooms
Amyl Nitrate
GHB
DXM
Codiene
Cocaine
Heroin
2C-b
2C-i
Datura

Yeah thats about it.....btw im being sarcastic.

Alcohol - probably too much.
Caffine - sif even mention it, may as well mention that you have sugar as well.

Nothing else since high school.

trog can we mail this thread to the feds ?

Grog - once a week - on weekends

I have tried these things: used to use every weekend - been thro the faze; bit over it now... but now ive cleaned myself up and am back at uni =) i actually found smokes hardest to quit.

ciggies
weed
bickies
fanta
wizz (bombed, not whacked)
smoked crystl
bulbs
coke

havnt tried and wont try harry or trips.

Drugs can cause hardcore changes in people, from experience i dont recommend anyone who takes hard drugs, to use any more than once a month. Even once a month i think is too much - once every 2 months would be alot safer. Or for example only on REAL special occasions.. perhaps a few times a year (at BDO etc) Which is what im doing..

Drugs can make a good time into a great time, but their are alot of consequences. Users have to be aware of these consequences and keep in control to aviod getting into bad habits which WILL (not may) lead into a s***ty lifestyle.

www.pillreports.com is an awsome site to check out if your an e user. Click on Auz and NZ link at top left and it gives you everything you need to no about pills that are out at the moment; what they contain what effects they produce (speedy ones, MDMA ones, MDX ones, K pills etc). Gives you a rating out of 10 according to strengh and also informs users of 'DUD', 'BAD' or deadly batches. It also has users posting their opinions on certain pills they have had that weekend.

DONT be fooled though, in some cases dealers post their gear up their bulls***ting about their product to make it sound awsome in order to sell them. In most cases users pick up on this and will post replys with what they found. So dont just base everything on one or two peoples thoughts!

anyways thats all :P

Party safe!



last edited by simple at 11:16:56 20/Apr/04

Booze extremely often

have tried or done for while but have now quit
weed
bulbs
pills
speed
coke

Caffeine far too much. Should probably cut down, but...eh.

Why does it taste so good :(

coffee constantly
alchohol constantly to counter effect the caffiene
pot occasionally
pills occasionally
wizza occasionally
cigs suck ass so never
cigars on the other hand kick ass so occasionally mostly whenever i go to a strip joint

ohh and acid once but never again freaked me out too much

last edited by 12inch at 11:21:35 20/Apr/04

well simple pretty much summed most issues concerning drugs. Pillreports.com is a great site and the information is pretty much spot on and it seems like they have every pill there listed.

Fireblood did you go out on DXM? i tried it for the first time 2 weeks ago and it wasn't good for partying! Also it's funny how any body can get the stuff from their local chemist for $10, surprised its still on the shelves.

1 coffee + 1 tea most days.

Would average about 2-3 standard drinks per week (beer and wine).

That's it for me :)

Never tried anything "harder" and never will.

Fireblood did you go out on DXM? i tried it for the first time 2 weeks ago and it wasn't good for partying! Also it's funny how any body can get the stuff from their local chemist for $10, surprised its still on the shelves.

Perhaps you missed the point that i was SARCASTIC!

i am serious guys!

I have done Caffiene! (Lots of it)
and i tried a ciggy couple of weeks ago :O
I had really bad asthma as a kid so i was doped up on drugs for long enough of my life!
Oh and a few bulbs here and there :P

last edited by Fireblood at 12:09:27 20/Apr/04

I'm high on life. Jesus loves me.

I used to get high on life, but I my system built up a resistance to it, so I had to turn to the harder stuff.

Caffiene, occaisonal Alcohol and the very occaisonal panadol.

Over the past month its been like…

Caffeine = Once every 2 days
Alcohol = Once a every 2 weeks

Meh something like that anyway.

Alcohol, not so often...

This weekend it = different.

Weed, daily if not multiple times daily.

Niccotine :(, 3-4 times a day.

Thanks!

Rather not say :)

I used to drink a metric f***tonne of caffeine, from coke and coffee, but now I've pretty much cut it out entirely. Very occasionally (like maybe once every couple of weeks) I might have a coke, if I'm out, or for example this past weekend, as a mixer, but thats about it.

Alcohol, probably once a week, some weeks I dont have any, but then other weeks I make up for it :)

caffine: regulary
alcohol: once a month - i drive heaps
pot: used to weekly but not anymore
anything else: f*** that

Try anything twice you pussies :)

ROFL at the people that wont say :P:P

i guess the feds could randomly check forums, get ur details from this board, come and raid your house, lock you up and you'll get rammed :O ALL BECAUSE YOU POSTED SOME STUFF ON A GAMES FORUM LOL!!

whats next, make sure u dont speak of drug use in servers / icq / msn / emails, they have bots that detect certian words! then log ur IP and get ur details!!!

lol Paranoia will destroy ya!!

=) =)

cops have bigger fish to fry, they are after the big dealers who push atleast 100's. Unless thats some of you people...!!! who have singled themselves out by 'not saying' ;);)

Party safe

i snort nutmeg.

Ive tried most of the well knowns's like LSD (other halluci's), speed's (meth/jelly/ice), mdma, ket, codeine (other scripts) in a flurry of stupidity etc

i only drink occasionaly, smoke ciggies (where did all my energy go?) and take things like speed (evil) and mdma on occasions (once every 2-4 months, i think its good for me to take mdma every few months). I had a stint with ice for a while which isnt really a friendly drug. I stoped smoking pot as well which was one of the best things i have ever done.

Has anyone else just gotten over doing drugs? I started to feel uncomfortable and edgy on drugs and slowly got over doing them (a good thing) but all my friends still do and are still in that high sort of mindframe which makes them harder to hang around when you feel straight and for lack of better words, clearer. I cant imagine my self as a 40 year old drug taker (pot or chems) and would rather slow down now and get a true sense of identity before its too late.

no poll no care

hemerage don't you stick eccies up your arse?

caffeine - essential for work
alcohol - essential after work :D
metropolol 50mg - essential for me to not have a heart attack (apparently)

If you want to post illegal drug habits on a public forum, that's your business. Please note if the feds ever call us up and say "hey, QGL, can you tell us some more about this user X who smokes crack?", well, you're on your own!

where's the love? and sifnt snort crack.
oh, yeah forgot about the dope. hehe, first time i told dad i had a joint, about a week later he dropped half an ounce on my desk. :O ...uh...thanks dad. oh, and fireblood, aren't you forgetting something...?

last edited by z0r at 14:25:02 20/Apr/04

i take effexorXR daily cause of all the stuff i took once upon a time.

it makes me put on weight and i cant remember not having a mildy upset stomach for 2-3 years (how long i've been on it) thou those side effects aren't as bad as others i've heard/read of...

i also like to drink tea (and sometimes coffee, thou not much = anxiety, shortness of breath).

Caffeine, because morning shifts suck
Alcohol, Used to be fairly heavy on it, but ive cut back a lot lately. :(
Partaken in a bit of marijuana on the odd occasion


I rarely even have a panadol unless Im combining it with the effects of alcohol. And thats not something I want to do again for a while.

oh, and fireblood, aren't you forgetting something...?

HOW COULD I FORGET POT!!!

hmm
no alcohol anymore
no ciggies
no weed
not much caffine

tea owns.
e is ok in my books though :)

simple... pillreports.com is full of false info.
check to see if its on ecstacydata.com, its mostly US, but I find AU pills there all the time. if its there it gives you that bit extra confidence of knowing exactly whats in it.

Wtf is with people listing codeine? I take that all the time for headaches in the form of Nurofen plus or Panadeine, but its not like it gets me high or spaces me out, it just makes my headache go away. Is there something I'm missing here?

Also, that whole panadol + alcohol thing has never done anything to me. I've drank alcohol a number of times after taking Panadol or Nurofen or Nurofen Plus, and its never affected me in the least (well, no more than it normally does).

Khel, its the sister drug to morphine and heroine. Its sold over the counter cos nausea and fatigue set in before elation.

Coffee - used to have a crap load, been without it for 3 weeks now
alcohol - sometimes have red wine with dinner, maybe a beer before it.
pot - when i was finished grade12 over those 3 months of holidays before uni. So not for 3 years almost now i guess.
No others, not even prescription meds other than anaesthetic I guess.

hemerage don't you stick eccies up your arse?

Its called shelfing, and he doesnt stick them up there himself, his mates do ;)

As for me
Alcohol - usually big alcho nights 2 times a week
Caffine - prob once a day
Other things - not yet

codeine is an opiate (gets converted into morphine by the brain), Panadines and nurofen +'s only have a small ammount of codeine, not enough to get you toasted unless you extract it removing all the iboprofin and paracetamol leaving codeine.

last edited by cobz at 16:19:36 20/Apr/04

Its called shelfing

or shafting (or plugging)

a mate of mine who is a nurse gave me some pain killers once (i had broken my hand playing cricket)
i dunno what was in them, but he used to work on terminal diseases ward, so he had access to lots of kewl stuff

im guessing they were just stronger codeine doses, but they sure made my hand feel better (and everything else)

wtf is with the panadol + alcahol combos that's being mentioned??? i was under the impression combining the two puts an even greater strain on your liver (bad!!) :S

last edited by Nat at 17:45:46 20/Apr/04

Alcohol - binge maybe once a week
ciggies - haven't had one in about 7 months

I do coke occasionally, used to be hooked on it & use it every day, but now I'm more or less coke free.

coca cola that is you drugged f*****s

wtf is with the panadol + alcahol combos that's being mentioned??? i was under the impression combining the two puts an even greater strain on your liver (bad!!)

yea paracetemol attacks your liver, the usual case is once youve injested too much (ie: some suicide cases) start counting down, cause in 2 very painful weeks youll be dead.
All you can do is hope someone left their liver in the lobby by accident cause a transplant is the only thing that will help you.

people who take hard drugs and pils are weak minded idiots, ive met so many dillusional, slurry voiced, red eyed zombie people that were once considered normal at one point. these chemicals fry your brain, dont kid yourself, that pillreport site is bull s***, the only reason you would go there is to hear s*** you wanna hear. its full of drugged up losers, talking drugged up loser talk to other drugged up losers.

Where do people come up with this bulls***?

There is a very effective treatment that can be given to people who have OD'd on panadol. Once the doctors know that someone has taken too many of the pills, they administer an injection, and the patient makes a full recovery.

edit: haha s***, I didn't even read the rest of the post. I guess we'll see plenty more from this moron now that Today Tonight has just finished.

last edited by fpot at 19:01:52 20/Apr/04

There is a very effective treatment that can be given to people who have OD'd on panadol. Once the doctors know that someone has taken to many of the pills, they administer an injection, and the patient makes a full recovery.

full recovery hey, oh i guess that all that stuff they say about liver damage is false too seeing as though its a sparkling full recovery..

IF you have over a certian amount you WILL die, paracetemol converts into another big named poision wich attacks liver cells and causes massive damage and failure.

The effects of a paracetamol overdose don't start happening untill about 12 hours after all the pills have been taken, sometimes longer. That gives plenty of time to give the antidote, which reverses the effects and you survive with no permenant effects.

And if you have enough of just about anything you will die. Big whoop.

last edited by fpot at 19:21:10 20/Apr/04

acetyl-salicylic acid.
That pharmacol is all coming back.
Is it lysic acid that is the real dangerous metabolite? I can't remember that far, it might come back later, maybe all the spelling too.

And most drugs, at high doses or some at low doses, will have a negative effect on your liver over time. Ironically, that includes most of the anti-rejection or immune suppressant drugs required after organ transplantation.

Would something like an asprin OD have a more immediate and dangerous effect on plateletes? When my father started taking heart medication they warned him about OD'ing on it. Apparently a guy killed him self on them a while ago, there is little they can do for you, and the capillaries continue to dilate until you get something similar to mass brusing and resultant blood loss

last edited by bobbly_bob at 19:27:00 20/Apr/04

Just Coca Cola, like ~1L a day :S gotta stop drinking so much of it i spose

alcohol not all that often

If you want to post illegal drug habits on a public forum, that's your business.

Im sure that everyone here is refering to their weekend in Amsterdam. Now, me:

4-5 pints 5-6 times a week.

ecstasy - depends if i go clubing, but ive made a rule to do them only on weekends, and only every second weekend.

ketamine - yeah. havent done much in the last 6months but will again.

Does anyone use esctasy test kits? Clubs in Holland have pro-labs in them. You test your pills at the start of the night, and if they find bad ones they anounce them over the pa.

last edited by möoby at 19:33:26 20/Apr/04

You are pretty naive if you don't think cops would jump at the possible opportunity to convict someone on illict drug possession... and you have no idea if or when police are on here...

The only things I regularly ingest are alcohol and caffeine, maybe 1 or 2 cups of coffee a day, one in the morning to wake me up before work and the other in the evening to keep me awake until I go to bed around midnight-1 am. Usually after work I will knock over one or two beers, or more if I am particularly s***ty after work.

I once had some ibuprofen-based painkillers and then had several beers and only on my 3rd did I remember that I had taken the painkillers not 2 hours earlier. I stopped drinking and sat around for a while waiting to see if anything bad would happen... and it didn't.

boxhead can settle this panadol OD dispute probably.

boxhead..where are youuuuuuuuuuuu


also, sikgem most people here wouldnt even have many drugs at their house if at all.
oh noes! theyve got $25 of weed in their sock drawer, I'm sure the cops are gonna raid their house for somthing that costs less than the damage they will probably cause searching your house. Its not like anyone is going to admit to having a large quantity of drugs in their possession.


last edited by reload! at 19:37:38 20/Apr/04

heres a nifty site i found on it

it tells you dosages you need to cause necrosis, treatment opportunities and all

not much of late

but usually just alcohol and ciggeretes :)

You are pretty naive if you don't think cops would jump at the possible opportunity to convict someone on illict drug possession... and you have no idea if or when police are on here...

I think it would be the other way...what cop is going to waste hundreds of man hours, trying to track the source of this thread. Find the person off the alias, then search and s*** for the average user!! It would be more effienct to raid a night club where there are dealers ect. Big Fish. Cops turn a blind eye. Its not worth the paper work for a pill or 2.

yeah, and there are easier places to find people taking drugs.

Like uni

but you are forgetting trog is an undercover cop

Londons a joke. Ive had bouncers at ministry of sound take a bag of pills off me, and then they dont even kick you out.

Anthrax.

but you are forgetting trog is an undercover cop

Opps! Londons a joke. Ive had my mates had bouncers at ministry of sound take a bag of pills off me, and then they dont even kick you out.

coffee whenever i feel like one.. not much.. prolly 2 or 3 a week.

alcohol.. f*** im an alcoholic.. actually it usualy depends if theres anything to do on the weekend.. if theres 2 parties.. 1 each night then ill .. usually be drunk both nights? depending on work shifts. no parties = no drinking unless im just having a few rums at my mates place (defi etc)

lol smoked wayyy to many cones in tho holidays at straddie, but before that i'd only done it like 4 or 5 times..

weeds alrite, i always feel really guilty when im bent though, so thats good because theres more pressure on me not to do it.. then again.. theres no pressure on me TO do it.. neways..

had like 3-4 ciggies.. only when im totally para.. when im s***faced i seem to see a smoke.. and just want a smoke.. f***ed if i know why.. theyre f***ing stupid tho..

never done anything else..

i will prolly end up trying some other wak s*** tho

lol existence, you always pay out the ravers for taking e and you do that, you do realise alcohol is much more dangerous than e and your not in as much control.

I don't drink alcohol I heard it is bad for you and I promised my mum I wouldn't.

coffee - well i usually drink like a capachino nearly every day

alcohol - im with pete ^ whenever theres a party or the holidays are on i turn into an alcoholic and drink till i drop usually.

weed - occasionally

ciggies - at parties when im drunk usually

Deathwalker: at least when you drink alcohol you can be 100% sure what you are having.

yeah fpot very true, im not incouraging e taking, ive never done it, i just find it funny that existence says he is an alcoholic yes when people mention e he is like OMFG GAY RAVER GO OD ON E PILLHEADZZ!!1!

dont drink coffee
have a coke a day at work
alchole around a bottle at a party then occasionally back it up the next night
weed - not anymore
ciggees - nope

at least when you drink alcohol you can be 100% sure what you are having.

cept for when people spike it with s***. even then, more people would die every year from alcohol related incidents than die from 'bad' E's

Yeah, and more people die in white cars than in green ones with purple dots, so white cars must be mroe unsafe

*quickly draws purple dots on car*

September 22, 2003

Research news in Human Psychopharmacology: Clinical and Experimental

The world¡s largest study of ecstasy-related deaths discovered that one in six people who died after taking ecstasy had not taken any other drug. "This clears up the debate once and for all  ecstasy alone can kill,” says Dr Fabrizio Schifano, whose work is published in the October edition of Human Psychopharmacology.

The study found that since 1996 there had been a clear year-on-year increase in deaths in England and Wales. "Just show anyone the graph and the message is clear  the situation is getting worse,” says Dr. Schifano, who works at the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths at St George¡s Hospital Medical School, London. There were 12 deaths in 1996 and 1997; 26 in 1998; 40 in 1999; 52 in 2000 and 72 in 2001-2.

Dr. Schifano is also alarmed that so many of the victims are so young. Three quarters were below the age of 29 and 1 in 7 were younger than 19. On top of this, four out of five victims were male. These results paint a clear and alarming picture of increased risk for men between the age of 16 and 24.

Dr. Schifano believes that this increase in deaths is partly due to a fall in the price of tablets from around £16.50 in 1994 to less than £7.00 today. Many of the tablets also contain toxic contaminants that add to the danger.

In addition to the dangers associated with ecstasy on its own, Dr. Schifano is also concerned about the number of people mixing ecstasy with other drugs. "Many people now combine ecstasy with alcohol at the beginning of the evening to get a greater high, then use drugs like cocaine or amphetamines to prolong the effect, before taking opiates or high doses of alcohol to calm themselves down at the end of the evening,” he says, "and it¡s a potentially lethal cocktail.”

Death from ecstasy is not instant. "It takes several hours before hyponatremia (i.e. decrease of sodium plasma levels which can lead to brain oedema) and hyperthermia (increase of body temperature up to 42-43 C) caused by these drugs have their tragic effects,” says Dr. Schifano.

John Wiley & Sons, Ltd

You are pretty naive if you don't think cops would jump at the possible opportunity to convict someone on illict drug possession... and you have no idea if or when police are on here...

well actually we have a few cops who post on this board - isn't psycho a cop??

and rofl at existence, just stick to your west coast coolers buddy.

More people die from overdosing on drugs, than people do from alcohol poisoning each year.

Yes I am aware that more people die from the outcome of drinking, however when talking about simply taking/drinking, alcohol is one of the safest 'rec' drugs out there

last edited by Kat at 21:54:11 20/Apr/04

Actually i beleive weed is... As from what i have read. Dont you have to smoke a f*** load to OD on weed or something?

More people die from overdosing on drugs, than people do from alcohol poisoning each year.

Yes I am aware that more people die from the outcome of drinking, however when talking about simply taking/drinking, alcohol is one of the safest 'rec' drugs out there

and what do u base that on? observation?

last edited by Nat at 21:58:50 20/Apr/04

I think the danger for weed is od'ing on chocolate afterwards.

No not chocolate.......HJ's..you feel as if you are doing to die

last edited by Kat at 21:59:46 20/Apr/04

But do you...?

did anyone know that 'becotide' the preventative for Athsma (the brown puffer) is actually a very short term halucinogen. You'd puff about 10-15 shots into your mouth, then breath in and hold your breath and it'd come on real quickly. Believe me, I was wacked out time and time again on that stuff, and my parents kept wondering why I ran out so quick! :P Not a good thing to do though, cause in actual fact, the residue it leaves in your mouth is really disgusting and bad for you :P. Secondly, I can't say it was really addictive, cause I stopped doing it pretty easily.

did anyone know that 'becotide' the preventative for Athsma (the brown puffer) is actually a very short term halucinogen

Well duh

Hey you thought alcohol was the safest 'rec' drug Kat lol thats just funny.

Dont you have to smoke a f*** load to OD on weed or something?

not one person has ever died from weed. you cant smoke yourself to overdose, cause you would pass out first!

you have a higher chance of going schizo and committing suicide.

Hey you thought alcohol was the safest 'rec' drug Kat lol thats just funny.

You know what is funny? Stupid immature arsehole's who can't read properly and yet still try to be the first one to make a 'joke' and/or flame and just end up looking like a dead set loser

one of the safest 'rec'

people who take hard drugs and pils are weak minded idiots

yor an idiot

More people die from overdosing on drugs, than people do from alcohol poisoning each year.

yor an idiot

ive used becotide before, didnt help my asthma any

actually my asthma now is the best its ever been and im smoking more cones now than i have ever before

to be honest, im convinced asthma is a mental state, unless somehow ive just grown out of it

ive been a chronic asthmatic all my life until the last year or so

long term preventatives never worked, only short term (ventolin)

oh no dont make me look like a dead set loser on these public forums HECK !

Plus -

Safeometer !!!

Weed > Alcohol

my asthma now is the best its ever been and im smoking more cones

sick bro natural remedies, do you smoke with tobacco?

Is that all you guys have? insults? can't have a proper discussion or put your point across you just throw out insults like 'yor an idiot'.

I mean serious, for starts you look like an idiot just by how you spell.

If you don't like what I am saying either prove me wrong or ignore me. Your 'ability' to argue a point is just lame.

Kat, no offense, but he was replying to a broad insult... so umm

Damn got me beat there Kat...




Sarcasm detected...



last edited by dynamite at 22:33:14 20/Apr/04

last edited by dynamite at 22:33:32 20/Apr/04

do you smoke with tobacco?

a tiny bit

i dont like it

it gives me the spins :(

kat, how can you say that alcohol < weed in terms of danger? like ad said, you cant smoke enough weed to die. you green out first. but you can drink enough before you fully feel the effects of alcohol to get alcohol poisoning. i.e. kill youself.
it may be just me, but that seems to point to weed > alcohol on the "safeometer", no?

also, möoby, sifnt bouncers selling that bag of pills after taking them off youyour mates.

yeah, spinning weed with tobacco sucks, tastes worse, kinda what got me started on ciggies.
and seems strange that the admins profess to not doing drugs. i mean, c'mon. if you're the people who came up with the idea of printed "Phat Lewtz"...it just screams out drug money.

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Red Bull - 3 Cans Daily (If on a working day)

Drum Ultra Milde Shag - Roll 15 a day

Weed - 4:20 every day mutha f***ers.

im gonna run you over one day you piece of s***

only if mummy lets your borrow the tarago...

pothead!

kat : the alchol vs illiect drugs debate has raged for years.

im of the opion that its not about saftey at all. its about social attitudes and moralities. every new "tread" goes thru the same cycle of exeptance. think of a few other examples in western culture. mini skirts and rock and roll music. most of us here are too young to fully appriciate it im sure, but we have all heard stories off our elders. Such an out rage!

Now who cares about it?

It can be argueed that these trends will be similar with acceptance towards drugs. Here in the UK, possenion of pot isnt a crimal offence anymore.

Trends like the SA two pot trees for personal use will spread too.

Its my estimate that in 20-30 time, e's will be taxed, regulated and sold at night clubs in blister packs.

it might not be possible to everdose on pot but long term use turns you brain into mush.

I've personally seen a couple of friends and family practiclly turn themselves into drooling zombies from heavy smoking over couple of years.

Nasty stuff.

As for me

Caffine - maybe only 1 cup a week since the expresso machine at work died :(

Booze - usually chug a Hahn premium or 2 after work on friday.

Tried most of the others but personally found the experience fairly hollow and unfulfilling.

I get alot more pleasure from my family and mates.

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btw - 15 page thread

err paragon. no offence but why do you smoke cigarettes?

err, 290. no offense, but why do you ask such a stupid question in this, of all threads?
but i know, cigarettes suck. :-/

If you don't like what I am saying either prove me wrong or ignore me.

you need to make an attempt to prove yourself right before someone tries to prove you wrong (wtf?)

making sweeping statements based on your opinions rather than facts is fine, but be sure to make it obvious that its just your opinion! (wtf again?)

anyway I think I explained myself.

and existence - I don't think it would do much damage if you ran me over with your training wheels :P

coffee: prob 6-10 cups a day. i tried "quiting" once, im so addictated to it.

r, 290. no offense, but why do you ask such a stupid question in this, of all threads?

because he's only like 17 or something. So i'm just wondering why he smokes cigarettes.

As to the Pain killer OD thing, my sis ate a whole packet and while she had a ROUGH night at the hospital (Made her drink charcol? so she spewed up all night) shes all good now.

nah, but i like listening to people give any response they can other than 'it makes me feel cool'

i only started smoking about a month ago after i had sex with my ex who i still love. it is a self destructive thing. so, fully aware of all the crap things about it (no good things about it) i am still doing it. in fact, that's the only reason doing it in the first place.
also, add to the list speed and ghb. forgot. /wonders why
also, fireblood, iamz0r@hotmail.com add me to msn.

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Don't drink,
Don't smoke,
the wrest should be obvious.

your my boy blue

Hahahahaha! This thread won't get any funnier.




























Plz lock.

Ciggies are bad mmkay.
Mary Jane is good mmkay.
Booze is good mmkay.
The rest is bad mmkay. (except the obvious caffiene, panadol etc).

Also,

Trends like the SA two pot trees for personal use will spread too.

Hasn't been like that since '98 according to my local cop shop. Even then it was only 1 plant for personal use. Now your allowed 0 plants, but its only a $150 on the spot fine for each plant up to 10 from memory.

it is still 2 or three plants in canberra. flatmate just moved up, so he should know.

why did jmrs post about me get nuked? all he said was i learnt how to quote. i was pround of that post. : (

long term preventatives never worked, only short term (ventolin)

Get some Serotide up ya - I used to use becotide with limited results, but this Serotide stuff (which is relatively new) is the bomb. I used to have Ventolin at least once a day, now I have it once a month if that.

it is still 2 or three plants in canberra. flatmate just moved up, so he should know.

As far as I know, in Canberra you can legally have 3 plants that < 60cm? I believe.
Heh I know a couple people who grow the stuff, so I could just ask them! :P

Get some Serotide up ya - I used to use becotide with limited results, but this Serotide stuff (which is relatively new) is the bomb. I used to have Ventolin at least once a day, now I have it once a month if that.

ive used beconase, becotide, nuelin(sp), and im pretty sure serotide over the years, no real results, still needed ventolin for immediate relief (particularly after sports)

dunno where my asthma has gone, but im sure loving it being gone

i can sport it up all i want now and never need ventolin any more, except maybe on a cold morning, ill wake up wheezing

heh, i even tried the Buteyko breathing method (no success)

heh, i even tried the Buteyko breathing method (no success)

Did farking WONDERS for me.
Went from all those steriod medications, the ones ya not meant to use long term (possible thats why im short now :() to having pulmicort 2 puffs a day, and ventolin....more regularly now because i am getting lax in my pulmicort applications.
And i dont even practice it much anymore, its mainly just breathing shallow through the nose.

ventolin is the only medication thats ever worked for me

we're not supposed to use that long term either (docs always used to hassle me when i got prescriptions, now the chemists do, well used to when i was still buying them regularly)

the steroids in these medications dont seem to have hurt me much in height/size :)

my friend was a chronic asthmatic person when we was young, he died 4 times( his heart stopped beating) and they revived him...

hes one year older then me, and benches almost double me.. the roids he was on just f***in tanked him up. but hes short as f***.. so sad :(

yar, i did a few hospital trips when i was young fella as well

tis not kewl not being able to breath

perhaps having the pipes relaxes my little bronchial passages, and they relax and let all the wonderous air (and smoke) flow happily

Don't drink,
Don't smoke,

I dont sniff, no coke


:P

the steroids in these medications dont seem to have hurt me much in height/size :)

Prednizone! (sp?)
thats the one i had...lil tablets that taste LIKE SHIIIITTTT Worst ive ever tasted...;)
Made me really chubby and kinda tired.

I'm laughing at all the asthmatics in this thread who smoke and do pot and then complain that nothing works for them.

ahahahahahahah

my asthma was worse when i didnt (ie when i was a child and a teenager)

bulbs are cool

I drink alcho on the weekends, drink coffee about 3 times a week, hardly smoke Pot .. bores the s*** out of me!
and im a bit of a social smoker.
oh and i use crack alot.

we will be sure to have some after thirst while your not there :(

but i want some bulbs.

how are you going to do them without a bulbinator

ill go find another one, or we will just smash the ends off with a hammer and chisle and suck them down with added metal filings goodness

mmmm. metal filings!

heh, yeah, if you can catch them after they fly off due to gass release.

The effects of a paracetamol overdose don't start happening untill about 12 hours after all the pills have been taken, sometimes longer. That gives plenty of time to give the antidote, which reverses the effects and you survive with no permenant effects.

fpot - this is actually not true. While liver damage is not usually detectable by routine tests until about 18 hours after ingestion, treatment for overdose should hopefully be commenced within 8 hours of ingestion. After 8 hours, urgent treatment is required because the efficacy of the treatment declines progressively from here on. After 15 hours post-ingestion, the efficacy of treatment is very limited. So while hepatic damage might not be noticeable early on in the piece, it does not mean there is a large window of time before the antidote (N-acetyl cysteine) is required.

For those discussing the pharmacology of paracetamol - once therapeutic doses have been exceeded, paracetamol starts to be converted to NAPQ1 which is a toxic metabolite and cannot be removed be normal pathways.

While the level of poisoning is dose-related, there is variation between individuals. Your susceptibility to toxicity depends on a whole lot of variables including those with A HIGH ALCOHOL INTAKE, poor nutrition etc.

IV Heroin, Meth and IM Ketamine :D Can't beat those 3 :) and Xanax is good :P

While the level of poisoning is dose-related, there is variation between individuals. Your susceptibility to toxicity depends on a whole lot of variables including those with A HIGH ALCOHOL INTAKE, poor nutrition etc.

Whats a ballpark figure for a poisonous dose? I mean, are we talking a whole packet of panadol at once or what? Like, if I had 4 or 5 panadol at once, is that bad or is that within safe limits?

its bad for anybody to have more than 8 per day, thats when liver damage begins. 5 is too many, 4 might be necessary if you are real big.

50 panadol is about the threshold for death.

Khel, the recommended safe limit for a daily dose is 8 tablets, or 4g. Things start getting toxic around the 10 - 15g mark which equates to about 20 tablets. But it all depends over what time frame you ingest the pills (and what other substances you take at the same time), because that dictates how well your body can deal with getting rid of the toxic bits.

In response to the original question, I have never smoked or done other drugs, I don't like coffee, and I have maybe one standard drink every few months.

I'm as innocent as they come. My body likes me for it.

alcohol

Wouldnt mind puffing a fatty, but only for a laugh

Hrmm, maybe I should stop taking so much panadol when I get migraines. What about other painkillers? Like what about ibuprofin, does it get toxic if you have too many too?

IV Heroin, Meth and IM Ketamine :D Can't beat those 3 :) and Xanax is good :P

lol.f***wit

Technically everything is lethal in high doses Khel. Just be mindful of your dosages and pay attention to the packets which the painkillers come in.

I think the max Mersyndol for a day is 8 (thats 8 in a 24 hour period) and panadol is about the same I believe.

Yes, ibuprofen can be toxic as well (accidental poisoning with these drugs has increased since they became available over the counter). You shouldn't take more than 2400mg per day.

Hrmm, maybe I should stop taking so much panadol when I get migraines. What about other painkillers? Like what about ibuprofin, does it get toxic if you have too many too?

Maybe try a natural remedy, then you can have as much as you want and it won't get toxic.


Cannabis for instance.

ibofprofen is less toxic than paracetamol, they are both used in codeine med's (and other meds like sudafed's) to stop people from eating a whole packet to get f***ed up, they are both pretty nasty substances.

If you get migranes and hate taking paracetamol or iboprofen (like i do) you can easily split nurofen +'s in half like a hotdog bun and eat the sides with N+ written on them only, these sides only contain codeine which get rid of headaches without all the toxic s***, they should split easily because they are seperated, the codeine (N+) side should look convex () and the iboprofen side should look concave )) when split. Codeine is the only painkiller that works for me, just dont eat too many.

and benches almost double me..

wowow he must be superhuman...

unless you meant double your weight in which case cool

whats IM ketamine?

You know codeiene is an opiate, like heroin.

It's very addictive and pretty bad for you in large doses.

Have fun!


Oh and IM means Intra-Muscular ie taken with a needle.

Why do people immediately reach for painkillers when they have a headache? You do realise a lot of headaches caused by a lack of water? I find that if I go and have a huge drink of water headaches can and often do go away. Also, try not looking at the computer so much or sitting around fluoro lights...

Headache + water + sleep = headache gone.

Drugs do nothing

nubbin, I'd like to see those stats, cos I know a guy who would frequently take a pack with a 4-pack of V, never really figured out why but he was a bit strange.

I also had a pharmacist at mater emergency who said I could happily take about 12 a day...

Perhaps the reason he was a bit strange was cos he was ruining his liver. Who would take a whole pack of painkillers with V? I don't get that. You can probably take 12 in one day without any adverse effects - as I said before, it's the timeframe in which you take the pills that affects your ability to metabolise them without building up toxic metabolites. If you took 12 at once(depending on other stuff too) your plasma levels would be in the toxic range.

Headache + water + sleep = headache gone.

Drugs do nothing

thanks Kat and to think doctors have been wrong ALL this time!

Spidz, oh get over it. If you can't figure that I am talking about my personal experience in that post and not THE WHOLE FRIGGEN WORLD, you need to grow up

Headache + water + sleep = headache gone.

Drugs do nothing

That might work for headaches caused by dehydration, but I assure you it doesn't work for migraines caused by a f***ed neck, which is what I'm usually fighting with when I mention "headaches".

The only way to get rid of them is to go to a chiropractor basically and get s*** put back where its sposed to be, but often lately I haven't been able to afford that right away so painkillers at least let me get through the days/weeks until I get a chance to go get it fixed.

Recently, I had a migraine that lasted 16 days, and every single one of those days I woke up with it, and the only thing that got me through the day was nurofen plus, so god bless nurofen plus.

:(

I have had two mirgaines in my entire life and I was practically unable to even go to sleep to get rid of it. Once I did get sleep, on waking it was right there again.

Anyone who suffers from migraines has my complete and utter sympathy

16 day migraine ffs? That would suck balls.

I think I've had a migraine, not too sure. The next day after drinking a s***load I woke up with the worst headache I've ever had. Had tears coming outta my eyes it was so bad. The funny thing is when I finally got back to sleep and woke up later that arvo it was fully gone and I couldn't remember the pain I was in. Sorta like after having the flu and you really can't imagine how bad it is until you have it again.

8-)

khel you should try going to an oesteopath/naturapath (sp?) they do all the adjustments manually instead of using pop guns and s***. from my experience alot better and cheaper in the long run.

have you actually gone to a physio or someone with a real medical degree before you went to these so called chiropractors?

also my girfriends mum is an acupuncturist, a few 12" f***ing sword needles usually fix most things

my friend in grade 7 used to get chronic migranes that made him throw up.

Oh and in junkie news today i was walking past a car and a guy in the car with his girlfriend asked me the time, and i noticed his girlfriend game him a "you idiot" look and tried to cover something in his hand, which was a needle.

His issue i just told him the time and kept walking.

Reload... chiropractors have medical and practioner degrees too mate!

They are good, everything in your body is related to eachother so if you have a cold then it could infact be because your back is out! They do work and it doesnt hurt what so ever, its quite a relieving feeling when your done.

Depends on the chiropractor of course. And i have a good one. Rarely go but!

ok first most prevelent

Insulin 4 times daily (3 times at the moment due to my stuffed diet)

Cigs daily (many)

caffiene (not much once or twice a day occasionally)

pot (when I can get it but not much as I am opposed to paying for it)

speed rarely if ever (few times in my life)

herion never (tried once or twice ever never again)

cocaine never (what am I a money bags)

alcohol regularly

antibiotics ralely or as little as I can take and get better

zoloft on it for a while but not now or ever again

diazepam is for loosers and you might as well take valium

valium a few times as a party drug

panadol and codiene phosphate in emergencies for pain relief

thats it (what the! is this a post or a thiesis)

weed is so grade 9

chiropractors have medical and practioner degrees too mate!

Not true actually. They don't study medicine at all.

Clarify - they don't have medical degrees. They are not "doctors".
Also how does science explain a back problem causing a cold? I would like to hear the explanation.

diazepam is for loosers and you might as well take valium

valium a few times as a party drug

Diazepam = valium.

You = loser.

Haha

Valium as a party drug. Must of been a s*** party. Maybe a sleep-over.

8-)

Hahahah
*snores*

Valium as a party drug. Must of been a s*** party. Maybe a sleep-over.

lol....sleep-over

Haha Nat, your sig is less gay than your last one.

:P

vallium is awesome fun
just add alcohol for instant wackyness
or for mornings after, its a first class trip to lala land

Benzo's are great fun when mixed with alcohol, but you can be sure you won't remember ANY of the night (Xanax is much better than Valium).

chiropractors, sif, here i'll manipulate your back, I probably know more about it then they do!

Like someone else said, it depends on the chiropractor. Theres some incredibly dodgy ones out there, but theres some pretty good ones too.

The one I go to doesn't use any stupid gadgets or anything, he just feels down your back and neck, finds the problems, and fixes them. Hes also not one of those "quick fix" chiropractors that just crack your back and throw you out the door, its more a long term thing where he works on getting your back into the right shape and keeping it there, fixing the source of the problem rather than just the symptoms.

It costs a bit though, and right now I can't afford to really go as often as I should to get long term benefits, so my neck occassionally still decides to go f***ed.

Also how does science explain a back problem causing a cold? I would like to hear the explanation.

Yeah, I've been told that as well, a lot of natural chiropractors espouse the healing powers of their art. They talk about how the nerves going through your neck control every part of your body and if your neck is out and those nerves aren't working at 100%, then bits of your body can start to suffer and you can get sick, and by getting your neck and back into the right shape and letting those nerves open up again, you can fix all sorts of problems.

I dont know if I'm willing to believe that, it sounds a bit like hocus pocus to me, all I know is that it fixes my migraines, so I'm happy.

What a crock. Colds are caused by viruses. It's got nothing to do with nerves.

People pay money to be told that s***?

What khel said is true... Everything in your body is related to eachother. Having certain body parts out of their "normal" position causes small faults in the specific areas and can cause numerous things. My dad use to sneeze heaps when his back was out and get colds, whenever he was worked on it stopped it. EVERYTHING is inter-related to with each and everything thing and every lil mishap effects all different things.

And like khel said, chiropractor i have gone to fixes you over a period and yeah not just crack and goodbye! It DOES work, its in your head it doesnt so you will neve rget the benefits!

I got an even better guy now who knows all sorts of famous people and has worked on all of them too, he isnt a specific anything but uses physio, chiro type exercises, mental and all sorts of s***. REALLY f***en amazing guy!

Im telling you it's true! Certain body parts out of position cause certain outcomes. If something is out then it effects your nerves, your imune system everything! Fact not bulls***.

Deal with it! Certain parts in your feet effect sinus problems and everything minor like that! I get blisters on my feet from being in soccer boots 24/7 and always sniffling. Funny enough the areas where my pressure is placed and hence blisters occer effects the sinus and nazel area.

Fact not bulls***... Deal with it!

Your dad used to sneeze heaps when his back was out because he was probably immobile for periods of time and more susceptible to catching any viruses that were around. Sneezing is a reflex to expel particles within the upper respiratory tract. How does his back have anything to do with that? If you can give me a solid scientific explanation I will belive you, but YOU CAN'T.

Go buy some magnets macca, use them on your feet to 'heal' and then put them on your harddrive please.

Such a load of s***

What he said.

Believe what you want tards! He sneezed cause he had a cold... the cold was brought on because his back was out which caused his imune system to fault.

I never said his back caused the actual cold itself but it did allow the cold to come in the first place. When his back was good he had no colds, it goes then so does his imune system hence the cold.

People are so shallow minded these days. Everything is related with everything these days.

Its the same with me, i have bad skin like dermatitis and s***... when my body is fatigued and stressed in joints ect my skin gets worse! Its all related with physical work and its effect on the immediate body, then its effect on imune and nerves ect ect.

Dont believe it and do what you want! Ill feel a hell of a lot more relaxed and happier then you and be glad i have an "open mind"

he prolly caught the cold at the doctors when he went to see him about his back.

I get sick all the time when I have injuries including but not limited to when I have a bad back. Its because I'm sitting around doing nothing, not because some wacky nerve is out of place.

No way spidz, better go buy some crystals and arrange them in a cirle and sit in it, but make sure you are facing east or your knee will get worse!

i'm coming down with tonsilitis - better go see the chiropractor I guess.

That or just shoved that crystal down your throat.

Twats
I'll vouch for everything my bro just said

Go to a real chrio and they'll fix you up good and proper

Let me guess - you guys are the sort of people who would whinge and bitch when you have to pay a REAL doctor for a consultation, but would happily hand over money to a chiropractor to be told that your dermatitis is a result of your sore knee joint?

PUHLEASE.

Hunter = nubbin and sikgem
I wasnt gonna tell ... but your being a c*******

As for the dermatitis, yeah, I dunno about that
But you managed to bypass everything else he/we said

That's because it's all bulls*** but you clearly believe it and I personally don't see it as my responsibility to try to change the mind of someone who clearly has no idea about science or medicine or the human body. The reason you have to keep going back to chiropractors is that they don't treat the underlying cause, instead, they throw around all this crap about the immune system and nerves that they nor you understand, in an attempt to convince you that they are helping you. But hey, how you spend your cash is your business. If it helps you, good on the placebo effect I say.

f***ing hunter. you are a f***ing clueless moron with a single digit IQ

http://www.medforum.com/jobline-srch/lifeline/articles/nvs00012/article.html

http://info.med.yale.edu/ortho/research.html

The overall objective of my laboratory is to understand the interactions between the skeletal, immune and hematopoietic systems as they relate to normal and pathologic bone remodeling. The focus of the laboratory is directed in the following areas:

Defining the mechanisms of osteoblast activation and differentiation. We are in the process of defining the various types of cytokines which are secreted by bone cells. This includes identifying the differential induction of cytokines by various osteotropic agents. Since certain cytokines are expressed on the cell surface, we are investigating whether osteoblasts express these molecules and are involved in cell to cell activation. Little is known about the expression of differentiation antigens by osteoblasts. Therefore, we are identifying osteoblast differentiation antigens, correlating them with different stages of development and using them to isolate and activate those cells.


The role the immune system plays in bone allograft reactivity. Bone allografts are unique in that they have the capacity to regenerate and are the only transplanted tissue which is mineralized. Our major interest concerns what the recipient's immune system recognizes as foreign in a bone allograft and the characteristics of the subsequent response.


Cytokines in fracture repair. We are identifying the cytokines secreted by fracture callus cells, isolating and characterizing those cells and correlating their secretion with different stages of repair.


High bone turnover in HTLV-1 Tax transgenic mice. Mice transgenic for the trans-activating gene Tax have high bone turnover reminiscent of Paget's disease. We are identifying the mechanism which leads to this pathology.

do some reading you f***ing naive c***

don't be a dibber dobber hemerage

jmr do you actually understand any of what that article says? I never said that there isn't a relationship between the immune system and bones - uh, duh?

I am not sure but are you guys saying that I am someone else (Hunter)??? I have no idea if that's what you are saying but I am a female medical student and I don't know who the crap Hunter is.

are you hot?

sounds fat to me

Umm, a large part of their work is related to development. Alot of those cytokines are related largely to bone and tissue sculpting, and osteoclasts have a very similar control to macrophages...

But getting over a flu is not an immediate immune response, like macrophages are involved in, but is involved in the development of antibodies and immunoglobulins....

sounds fat to me

Sorry to make you look like an idiot Spidz - I think I have actually met you...

2 words - Trog's sister.

lets just all take a step back to where this started - khel gets migranes due to his f***ed spine.

im not tryin to prove whether or not trog actually does have a sister here. all im saying is that nerve deficiencies and iregularities in the spine (and anywhere else in the body for that matter) are related to problems with the immune system thus opening the way for illnesses such as the flu. doesnt mean you get your back cracked and no more hickups kapeich?

Sorry to make you look like an idiot Spidz - I think I have actually met you...

2 words - Trog's sister.

yeah I just got owned....

Edit: sif believe hem again, he dibber dobbed and had no idea. I really did think it was Hunter.

anyway, trog does have a sister and she does study medicine so yeah - she prolly has more clue than most of us.

PS: you still seeing broady?

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you still seeing broady?

Yep!

I am not saying I know everything about this topic. Far from it. I agree that migraines can be caused by neck problems, so yeah, chiropractors could probably provide some benefit in that case.

The immune system is obviously involved in every area of the body. I was just trying to disagree with the point someone made about his dad getting a cold from his bad back.

sorry, didnt mean to call you a c*nt then, hemerage is a bad influence.

fair enough then - I reckon its all bulls***, but I guess I've never had a migraine so I can't comment on that.

funnily enough I just had a knee operation and now my throat is f***ing killing me.

Edit: s*** eh, broad in a long term relationship, last time i saw him he was passed out on the couch in my living room late last year ;)

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get an xray spids

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/20/1082395822759.html?from=storyrhs

=S

don't think they left any scissors up near my throat after operating on my knee...

but yer that s*** is disturbing and it was on the new like 10 minutes b4 i went into pre-op :/

Nubbin you twist words... i didnt say my dad got a cold because of his bad back. I said it was simply all inter-related with it having an "effect" not the course of it. Read first then type! Ohh and understand it too when you read it, dont just believe what you want to see so you can prove someone wrong!

And to the "I bet you are the kind that dont go anywhere and go there and dont get treated by proper doctors" HAHAHA I laugh at you for making such a broad and utterly stupid comment based on nothing, all because you wanted to be a smart arse!

I have been to naturopaths, normal practioners, people that specialise in skin, chiropractors (originally for a dropped shoulder) and this other guy who just studies the human body and its defiences in general who i can ASSURE you knows more then most people and has treated the best of the best for years. I have tried everything, certain things help, certain things dont. Certain things are related to it all to... Like joint stress and body stress do to sport!

No a cold is not caused by your back bieing out or your neck being kinked, it can however be RELATED and effect the severness of it and preventing the lack of strength in your imune system for future references.

You may have a medical degree and im sure u know all about the body and its functions, but do not twist words.

That is all...

but crack's more fun :(

ahaha that pic is a crackup.

also - had my first experience with e last weekend and it was the best time of my life :)

went to the family, awesome club

Nubbin is not Hunter. But that is about all I am willing to say.

also - had my first experience with e last weekend and it was the best time of my life :)

went to the family, awesome club

Now leave the family! and come to a rave! :D fun x 10! (im SORRY REV BUT IT IS! :P)

Plenty of retards on this forum can't accept they are wrong, doesn't make them hunter. Its apparently a fairly common trait.

Weee! I always come in late on the good threads :)

Lets see... was on;
Beta Blockers (briefly cos they made me feel like my brain was half turned off)
Tramal (briefly cos it made me sick - nausea and vertigo)
Imigran (briefly cos it made me even sicker than the Tramal)
Pethadine once or twice when things were really bad.

Now taking;
Sandomigran (and a similar offshoot that I can't remember the name of)
IbuProfen (prescription strength)
Forte (for when the ibuprofen doesn't cut it)

And of course occasional alcohol and daily (heheh hourly!) caffiene :)

In case you're wondering I get migraines too. Wonderful things that pretty much cripple me for anything from 6 - 48 hours. And best of all they're pretty much invisible to anyone looking at you so your boss says "WTF are you on about you slack bastard. Get to work!" :(

"WTF are you on about you slack bastard. Get to work!" :(

that's a bit unfair.. what do you do dude?

i reckon hem and macca have a point, my osteopath has helped me heaps, especially on stuff my gp had no idea about. doctors hate osteo/chiros they (it would appear) are taught different stuff.

my osteo has the qualifications to be seen as a dr (went to nz especially for extra training) and has been a hell of a lot better than any dr; even better than the specialist for my condition :S he (the specialist) seemed limited to what he was taught, and told me a lot of info that was contradicting to what a few high up doctors (that pioneered the op for my condition) and experienced physios had said; and what results had proven.

its probably got a lot to do with the mind as well as the body, but even still the osteo shows me results. i still have no problem seeing my gp, however.

nubbin you may be a med student(?) but id take my professional and experienced osteo over you the majority of the time (but that would probably be heavily influenced by parents etc, what iv grown up with and experienced). dr's and drugs etc arent the be all to getting well, my mum learnt that the hard way. dr's did nothing for her just made her sick, until a dr specialising in natural remedies found she had a lot of intollerences and a fsked liver etc.

sorry if this is all garbled and makes no sense, just my opinion.

ps just occasional caffiene and alco for me :)

viagra

Wonderful things that pretty much cripple me for anything from 6 - 48 hours

It sucks hey, i cant even function socialy when i get them, my friends think im being a rude hardc*** when i get them. (they smoke pot, allmost everything is a sarcastic or offensive attack on them ...they are paranoid and they dont know it)

All i can do is get home as fast as i can (drive like a f***ing maniac), get a bottle of water and rub my forhead in pain while trying to sleep....for some reason Heinekens and Toohies New give me migranes as well...thank f*** Coronas dont.

Alchohol for this body :D

I bet you are the kind that dont go anywhere and go there and dont get treated by proper doctors

sifnt doctors just to prescribe "pills", also med student= NOTHING stfu, want to pretend to have some authority state your name and institution.

the nerves run from the brain to parts of the body. if your spine is out of place, the nerve is restricted and the messages are impeded.

therefore, if the chiro removes the pinching of the nerve(subluxation) the messages will NOT be impeded. therefore the nervous system is working better. if its working better the body can work better to remove problems(disease)

FACT: there are many functions in the human body scientists dont understand.

dont diss therapies that you dont understand, because you DONT KNOW! stfu.

Wow, ad. I'm convinced.

I can feel my aura improving already.

lol

I'll help your aura nF, just let me kick you in the spine.

Ok, just let me put down my herbal tea first.

VSFT, becauseful when you kick him you may put out your back and catch a cold.

That is why my kung fu is so deadly

edit: I mean so healing

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sifnt doctors just to prescribe "pills", also med student= NOTHING stfu, want to pretend to have some authority state your name and institution.

shes trogs sister, medical student, UQ.

oh and i broke my toe before and now I think it has caused diaoreah :/

I can feel my aura improving already.

nF - paladin lvl 12 casts thorns aura, effects whole party

I'm a bludging public servant :P

Koopz, I spose I shouldn't say my boss comes right out and says that, it's always implied - tone of voice, funny looks, snide remarks you know how it goes. They can't come straight out and say it cos that's harassment.

Cobz, yeah I've missed parties and nights on the town because of them and my friends all think I'm a softcock, "Ooh you've got a headache! You just can't stand a night of drinking with us." Except it's more like, "No if I go to a nightclub while I'm like this I'll throw up, fall over and black out... not necessarily in that order."

I try not to drive when I'm bad, I had to at one point and I don't remember about half the trip (10 minutes). Literally no recollection of it, fortunately there were no dints or bloodstains on the car when I got to the doctors office so I figure I didn't hit anything important :D

I found the imagran (or maybe imagrin I can't remember the spelling) worked to kill the headache within about 30 minutes. But after about an hour I'd have really intense nausea and vertigo. I literally felt like I was seriously drunk - room spinning wanting to puke. So that sort of defeated the purpose of taking them :/ Strangely either heat or cold seems to help a bit. Standing in a shower as hot as possible helps and so does an icepack on the back of the neck. But basically the best cure I've got is taking the strongest painkiller I can cos that will let me sleep - then just sleeping it away.

the pinching of the nerve(subluxation)

Did the chiropractor tell you that was what subluxation is? Or did you want to put in a big word to sound like you know what you are talking about?

Subluxation is a partial dislocation i.e. where part of the joint surfaces are still in contact with each other.

I am leaving this discussion now to have some aromatherapy for my ingrown toenail.

Vertigo sucks donkey balls. Proceed :)

I am leaving this discussion now to have some aromatherapy for my ingrown toenail.

roofles

Heh, it's really funny that you're going crazy with new age remedies when what he mentioned has nothing to do with new age.

I suck at England, the message is shutup, what he said wasn't absurd.

I get migranes as a side effect to the contraception I use :O - I take Ibuprofen for that (500mg) the thing is, the tablets look like little pink smarties (seriously, they're hot pink and they are the same shape and size as smarties) O_O and I work in a school and the lid isn't childproof :/ so if I get one of my 'stunners' of a migraines I have to hold up until I get home. Then the Brufen f***s me up for about half an hour (drowsy, slurring words) but then i'm back like new.

And then when I get sinus I have huge bad headaches, such as yesterday, panadol cold and flu works well for that. :D I spent most of yesterday in bed, by midday the boyo rescued me and brought to be Panadol and a Diet Coke so I spent the next half hour with the diet coke up to my forehead waiting for the Panadol to work :P

Surely you can put them in a childproof case for when you are at school? I can't work with a migrane, it drives me nuts-o.

I normally sit at my desk with my head down and suffer silently - or go downstairs and whinge, whine and cry. :/

If I know it's coming on I'll tkae them to work and hide them good and proper (being a side effect to a contraceptive - the migraines are quite rhythmical).. but yeah. :/ not much else I can do.

get the rod grosby
yor boy will thank me for it*







*provided u dont want kids in the next 3 years

I have the rod spook.
In fact my 3 years is up in December :P

Subluxation is a partial dislocation i.e. where part of the joint surfaces are still in contact with each other.

if you could treat your sphincter-neck for just 1 second you might realise the definition you gave is a MEDICAL definition.

Chiropractors use "subluxation" to describe exactly what they treat, which is spinal misalignment.

many elite athletes swear by chiropractic, mostly because they need their bodies to work as close to 100% as possible. most every day chums survive with no real need for chiropractic, so they dont respect it.

Alcohol: Daily
eccy's: once a month
speed: I'd live on it if i wasnt randomly drug tested.
pot: once every 6 months.
cigs: non-smoker
crack/ice: once in every 2 months
trips: When I can get them cheap.
caffine: Daily

Food: 1 Large meal a day.
Work: 12-16hr days 6-7day weeks.

Living life to the full.

sounds like your going to die young actually

Holy s*** Zoix... you get much exercise? Height weight etc plz.

I usually have 3 - 4 massive nights on alcohol a week, but as of this week I am cutting back to max of 2 due to money reasons. I've started drinking coffee and I honestly have never felt better! Cafeine rules me at the mo'.

Nice Zoix, nice :) Get some opiates into that mix and she's all good.

Here's a list :)
nicotine
valium
vicodin
marijuana
ectasy
alcohol
cocaine

More people need to try K and trips :)

More people need to use that s*** the way it's suppose to be used ;)

woman dont like me having trips

plus pills are more fun anyway

there will be a lot less trips around also after the big bust in byron (52 million dorrahs worth gone)

although a trip a few years ago did make for the funniest trip to maccas evar (those smily faces arent lying)

k holes are only fun every now and then as well

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Its supprising reading through all of this.. Seem's the 'computer nerd' stereotype should be changing to 'drugged up computer nerd'. Farking good work peoples ;D I'm doing my share to help the cause.. but I could be doing more.. muahahahaha ;D

EDIT: Also forgot.. back in the day's of school.. tried a 'dexie' (ADD pills I think).. all I can say is i'm glad I didn't pay for them (even tho they were like 50c each aha). Did sweet f*** all.. but this bitch I used to know swore by them :S

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i just like fun
computers are fun
drugs are fun
sport is fun
life is fun

Eye, I think youve gotta have a few to get a bit f***ed up...

Go drink a bottle of Robbotussin (cough medicine), then get back to me :)
(theres a specific one though I think, so dont do it without finding out :D)

i just like fun
computers are fun
drugs are fun
sport is fun
life is fun

Totally 100% Agree :D
Soon when people think of a nerd, instead of picturing a fat, smelly guy with thick glasses - they will picture a fat, smelly guy with thick glasses buzzing off his f***ing head on some good quality MDMA ;) Haha.. not that thats that far away from reality with some of the people I know :D

mmmm DXM
:)

Eye, I think youve gotta have a few to get a bit f***ed up...

Go drink a bottle of Robbotussin (cough medicine), then get back to me :)
(theres a specific one though I think, so dont do it without finding out :D)

I think I had 3? This was at the age of like.. 15? Woulda thought it would of done more then it did. Keke.. we had a PE lesson after.. played lacrosse.. was going nuts.. then someone tried to deck me, so I think I went a little overboard with going psycho :D Tagged this one c*** for the rest of the game, and dropped him every opportunity possible :D I think the teacher caught on after a while, which is why I got told to stop being a little bastard. No s*** :D

Also, RE: Cough med.. is it DXM or something? Some dude on the internet started telling me all about it one day.. was odd to say the least! But from memory there's one chemical you have to try and extract for it to work best?

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Go drink a bottle of Robbotussin (cough medicine), then get back to me :)
(theres a specific one though I think, so dont do it without finding out :D)

Half a bottle of Robotussin DX to be exact. (check with Erowid, that's off memory)

DXM is bad for you, can't you kids just smoke weed and eat mushrooms?

Robitussin DX Extra Strength 100ml bottle, contains 300mg DXM (only active ingredient) which will send you into a mid 2nd plateau trip :D and for only $10 :P

Information (Y)

Half a bottle of Robotussin DX to be exact. (check with Erowid, that's off memory)

DXM is bad for you, can't you kids just smoke weed and eat mushrooms?

Nevah tried M.Mushies.. but f*** i'm becoming rapidly bored with smoking weed. Oh well, gotta be cheering.. i've smoked weed for many many years, and havent spent more then $100 over those many years on gear.* Gotta love having contacts ;)

* thats all up :D

What makes DXM so bad? What does it do to your internals? I actually have a sore throat/cold atm.. so it could be worth investing in a bottle ;D

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DXM aint good ... advise stongly against it

DXM is poor as :( Ketamine does exactly what DXM does at high doses, but much cleaner/smoother and just all round 100% better.

Half a bottle of Robotussin DX to be exact. (check with Erowid, that's off memory)

Half a bottle, will give you symptons but for the full effect you need to take the whole bottle.

you guys got a cold or something?

Mmmm, sure do :D

you guys got a cold or something?

I think I'll choose "something".

182cm
82kg
I run 1km before work
50 push ups and 80 sit ups
I hit the punching bag for about 15-30 minutes also, got heavier gloves 2 weeks ago.
Drink LOTS of milk, almost 1.5 litres a day.(since work pays for it :).

At work atm, its dead, so I thought I would reply.

Are you guys giving homemade rec drug advice for that 'right high'???

Are you guys giving homemade rec drug advice for that 'right high'???

Where in particular?

Referring to the bit about DXM?

If so, then hardly ... drinking a bottle of cough syrup is hardly rocket sience
And its not the "right high" ... its a dodgy high :)

haha fair enough. When it comes ot home made highs, even if it isn't rocket science, I still don't get it. Never tried t.

Most I did was Soda Bulbs, Weed, Cigs, and another drug, which I won't say, as didn't do anything at all (bad stuff) so I don't classify it.

Dont be all good goody .. whatd ya have :)

$10 it was speed
a.) Most people dont notice it do s***
b.) Never have enough :)

I thought you went apes*** at people about bulbs....



Go snort some nutmeg for your homemade high :p
(no dont ... bad ... but works)

or you could scoff down a heap of motion sickness pills as well
but thats bad also