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Topic: Gayness of Cheating
§PLAT
Posts: 1489
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ive just been on a TPG cs server and some f***tard was using the wallhack. it brought to mind two things

1) HTF do you get around all this valve anti cheating software

and

2) what drives people do be so f***ed up? i dont see how getting a high score makes people happy. I dont know- obiously they have no f***ing lives and get their jollys of wining by cheating

its a f***ing joke.. complete bulls***..
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eXemplar
Posts: 231
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this is just repeating wat other people have already said but anyways,

i think we should line all cheaters up in a row (sort of like a nazi death camp eh?) and take careful aim with an awp, so as to save money and time on the lmae people of gaming.
WarT
Posts: 8443
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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§PLAT
Posts: 1490
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I know its been around before. there are threads that keep reapearing.. you know how it is.

But is there any definitiave way to stop people f***ing cheating!

if we cant get rid of them we mose well beat them at their own game, and all cheat so it becomes a little liek leagalising pot
eXemplar
Posts: 234
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
like cs has a tk kicker. this should be used in every game in future. and ban after 3 kicks or something
thrax
Posts: 819
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
There is no possible way of getting rid of cheaters, it's just a matter of time before some person finds a way around the Quake 3 protection.
Pharcyde
Posts: 3094
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they already have thrax
eXemplar
Posts: 235
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i wouldnt be surprised if someone hasnt already. but q3 is generally not playde by lamers isnt it?
dais
Posts: 3817
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Er they already have unfortunately.
WarT
Posts: 8444
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i know there is ogc for quake 3
a few people have been using it in urban terror lately
eXemplar
Posts: 238
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah well i dont cheat so i dont know
Shotty
Posts: 2478
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
But is there any definitiave way to stop people f***ing cheating!
There is, get a decent admin, and they will kick people (or ban their won addresses. Also, created private games to play with your friends, just like people are doing in bf1942.
Zekts
Posts: 494
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
cheating is for people who cant play te game properly... why would you wanna cheat otherwise, unless you are a gay retard that gets pleasure at wrecking other peoples games..
Twisted
Posts: 6420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

it brought to mind two things
1. Because they can?
2. Why another thread on this?
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4499
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

what drives people do be so f***ed up? i dont see how getting a high score makes people happy. I dont know- obiously they have no f***ing lives and get their jollys of wining by cheating


You have missed the point. A good chunk of them dont care about their score, only the wierd cheaters do, the ones who use the same nick and play in wars and s***.

The big majority of them do it because they find it fun. Chances are they do have a life and just sit down and have a bash on the computer every now and then. Others just do it to 'Rage' you, like your doing just now, AH HA HA you fell right into the cheaters trap.

Now, you coulda just banded the server together and votekick him out...
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4500
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
O I forgot, then there are the people who are playing normally and are just good, that people call a cheat. Simply because they cant belive that another person is beating them in such a way.

EvisceratoR
Posts: 2219
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
exactly toll...

I mean people say they "have no life" this may be the case in some instances but you are saying they cheat rather than play the game to death to get good at it ? Hmm let's see free skill available for a bash now and again at the computer and watch people get cut at you or spend aaaages getting good... I know which one sounds better.

Go get a console.
Loki
Posts: 1621
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hehehe family got a PS2 the other day (was between PS2 or Xbox [mainly for the DVD playback].. went with PS2 cause know ppl with PS2's to leech games off :D )
Morgish
Posts: 2863
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
1) HTF do you get around all this valve anti cheating software
hehehe, thats a funny one
Rubba-Chikin
Posts: 1565
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
a big step towards no cheats or a lot less cheating in CS would be to have "pure" servers like Q3 does,
but for some reason valve are too gay to accept that solution and refuse to implement it.
teen
Posts: 6018
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I know a guy who cheats at CS, he doesn't take cs seriously or anything, he doesn't even pretend he's playing for real, he just does it because it's fun.

He's british.

Hunter
Posts: 6579
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
1) HTF do you get around all this valve anti cheating software
The fault is not entirely with the game - Microsoft has a lot of explaining to do.
Farseeker
Posts: 685
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fella at my school cheats - says he recently joined myg0t, cheats regularly on GA servers under different cdkeys and aliases - he says he does it because it's fun to piss people off. he's promised me he'll never play on AusGamers servers, so im happy :P

He's asian.

EDIT: I know his phone number, icq, msn, email and where he lives if anyone's interested ;D
Rommel
Posts: 1910
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He's asian


is that relevant?
Sandman
Posts: 455
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Haha Daniel, would that be Nan by any chance?
§PLAT
Posts: 1491
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Intresting comments.. but


Now, you coulda just banded the server together and votekick him out...


Thats what we tried to do but somehow he had a way not to get kicked out. i dont know how, he just did.


He could just have been good

Well thats what i thought but - We were playing melica (sp) and i was in the vents and he head shotted me. Everyone saw it. And also he had a score of 24 and everyone there wasn't above 5. wall hack of the centuary


1) HTF do you get around all this valve anti cheating software ....
The fault is not entirely with the game - Microsoft has a lot of explaining to do.

I dont see how a game developed by Valve can have anything to do with microsoft..


I really dont care if people cheat out of curosity - but when it f***es my game up and it becomes unenjoyable, then i draw the line there
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1620
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The fault is not entirely with the game - Microsoft has a lot of explaining to do.


Even if it isn't there fault!

The biggest problem here is thanks to asus for showing everyone how to hack drivers.
fpot
Posts: 6150
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
haha, melica. Go to school or something.
§PLAT
Posts: 1492
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha, melica. Go to school or something.
i get spastic with spelling sometimes. its weird.. you ever not been able to spell a word then you wake up the next day and you can spell it

at least i knew that the spelling was f***ed!
fpot
Posts: 6152
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
But that was really shocking... :P

Meh I am over it.
fpot
Posts: 6153
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Also, you probably just got owned by someone much better than you.

I get accused of wallhacks and aimbots all the time.
WhoopAss
Posts: 1435
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah, it's probably not a cheat in the game as such, rather hax0rd drivers. I used to have them just to see what all the fuss was, made it almost impossible to see the walls so I dunno htf ur meant to move around a map. Fortunately I hate windows 98 and I don't have the 2k version so ur all safe :)

Note: I can quite accurately track people thru walls at close range just using sound, ur welcome to watch me @ qgl if u want but I'm sure it's not that hard if I can do it. Just get a decent pair of headphones & sound card with eax/a3d or whatever.
§PLAT
Posts: 1493
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Dont tell me that you havn't ever been totally spastic with a work for no reason! come on!
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4504
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

but for some reason valve are too gay to accept that solution and refuse to implement it.


Probably because they would have to totally re-work thier engine, and spending that much time/effort/money goes against their long term plans..


Thats what we tried to do but somehow he had a way not to get kicked out. i dont know how, he just did.


Probably because not enough people voted, Good Work to CS for having no player feedback for Votes. Only the Votemap has a little tiny bit of feedback, you can look at how many votes a map has using listmaps.

I'd really like to be able to go to developers and kick them in the arse and say OI do these simple little things and your game/engine will be much better..
§PLAT
Posts: 1494
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Half life is a dinasour. the simple fact that its still around (and popular) deserves a f***lead of credit

Anyone played CE or RTCW latley? EXACTLY! i have forgot bout them already!

bi_channel_subwoofer
Posts: 669
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
1st: i dont know how to cheat
2nd: i dont even know how ppl cheat or what the cheats do or are 4 CS
3rd: i was accused of using a aimbot?
4th: i play only on optus servers
5th: i call ppl cheaters when there score is over 30+ and the average is much lower


and finally

cs is gay but i play it cause i can ;)
dangles
Posts: 2439
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
get accused of wallhacks and aimbots all the time.


sif your good enough to get called a cheat i mean really how slow do u aim?

dangles
Posts: 2440
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
:P
fpot
Posts: 6154
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
hah, whatever dangles :P
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4508
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

5th: i call ppl cheaters when there score is over 30+ and the average is much lower



This is one of the greatest problems. People calling other people cheats, not due to evidence, but just because they think they do.
I'm sure if people stoped acusing people of cheating left right and center the problem will be less then what it currently is..
dangles
Posts: 2443
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i was on 30-3 today, and the next person on my team was on like 8-4. I didnt get called a cheat. But i quit when Pharcyde stepped out the double doors on aztec and awped me with his arm.
dangles
Posts: 2445
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** i hate that.
§PLAT
Posts: 1495
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah but when you are in a position where you know that no one can see you (like wat i described above)you so know that they are using cheats.

I got accused of cheating on QGL just cus i wrote the wrong thing in a reply.. remember it? thats how touchy people are
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4510
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
He obviously didnt use his arm to shoot you. Remember everything you see on your client viewscreen is a PREDICTION of what the server sees, they wont always match. GET OVER IT.
dangles
Posts: 2446
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah i know toll, but it is annoying how cs doesnt line up :P
§PLAT
Posts: 1497
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
does anyone care to explain how a module works in psudocode? i cant be f***ed starting a new thread
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4513
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What do you mean a module ?
bi_channel_subwoofer
Posts: 671
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
my mate useed to do something to the models in CS. instead of seeing the actual skin of a ct or t it was 2 boxes, one was a lighter colour than the other and one was for the head and one was 4 the body. it was like he turned the detail down on just the skins... weird.

what command does this?
Hemerage
Posts: 2526
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no commands ... itd be a custom model
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4522
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer so your Aimbot can lock onto the colours of the model much easier. Old versions of aimbots used colour detection to find the models..

Now they just use info that is sent across the network to find were a player is..
bi_channel_subwoofer
Posts: 678
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its not a aimbot. just no skins so it made it eaiser to find the head, it wasnt cheating but it was... kinda


MEH
§PLAT
Posts: 1499
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
modify game = cheat
bi_channel_subwoofer
Posts: 681
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
smacked me down
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1624
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Anyone played CE or RTCW latley? EXACTLY! i have forgot bout them already!


I belive the plain truth is that CS players are filled up with whiny cocksucking fags, and when ever the rest of the gaming populations finds a game, we get a week or two before its filled up with whiny cocksucking CS fags who ruin the total enjoyment of the game.

The brilliant minds including, TKers, people who don't understand basic gameplay elements (LIKE CAPTURE THE f***ING SPAWN POINT d*******!), d*******s who want to be pilots but suck ... even if that means blowing up other people in planes if they missed out.

These people where very rare in begining of the online gaming world, and good times where had. Now they are inundate servers with there faggyness. Turning mature players away from servers.

Of course then the servers are just filled with whiny cocksucking fags (because everyone else has gone to do something else) they all retrete to CS, because now it is evident that the game isn't fun anymore, because everyone is being a whiny cocksucking fag to other whiny cocksucking fags.

Now the brillance of this statement is that it only offends CS players who are whiny cocksucking fags (the majority of CS pllayers). So if you post having a huge cry about my statement, we know that you are one of the people who generaly make online games suck wang.
Zekts
Posts: 502
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Go typo!.. preach it brother
Loki
Posts: 1622
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hahahaha typo... so full of hate!
§PLAT
Posts: 1500
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Someone needs some anger managment..

I dont give a s*** if they whine, bitch, or are cocksucking f*****s - all i care about is that they dont use aimbot!


how can you cheat in CE anyway?!
eXemplar
Posts: 253
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you probably can cheat in ce but not many people actally play it so they dont ge all the cs kinders and stuff.
§PLAT
Posts: 1501
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i might give it a go then!
it still doesn't have the Zang of cs tho, you cant get in their face and press a degel up to their forehead.
eXemplar
Posts: 255
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
this is all i can seem to find on ce cheating

http://codename2.topcities.com/Downloads.htm
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1627
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Someone needs some anger managment..


Actualy that wasn't angry typo ... although it may have been resentfull typo.


I dont give a s*** if they whine, bitch, or are cocksucking f*****s - all i care about is that they dont use aimbot!


You don't realise that you are included in the whiny, cocksmoking faget selection.


how can you cheat in CE anyway?!


If you read my post again, you will notice I was talking about just being cocksmoking whiny fags who play CS ... You don't have to be a cheater to be a cocksmoking whiny fag.

At least serrious cheaters just shut the f*** up and play. Even if they are dodgy bum bandits.
Greazy
Posts: 972
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah your right o_0
§PLAT
Posts: 1508
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
o...k
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4532
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
funny thing is typo, your bithcing and whining about people being bitchy and whiny..
§PLAT
Posts: 1514
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think its more than bitching and whining maby there is a deep hatred inside him towards anyone under 30?
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1628
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
funny thing is typo, your bithcing and whining about people being bitchy and whiny..


And I am doing so in the proper forum (no pun intended). This is a forum to discuss ideas...

I think its more than bitching and whining maby there is a deep hatred inside him towards anyone under 30?


Anyone under 30? You mean I hate myself?

anyway ... all both those posts did is show again that your both the tards of the gaming universe.

Hashy
Posts: 223
Location: New South Wales
That site has cracks on it, I don't see his post lasting long :)

I gave up with counter-strike at version 1.0; not because of the cheaters as much as the idiots. I didn't really encounter definate cheaters as long as I played the game - I don't know how many there are now.
§PLAT
Posts: 1515
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well the ppl on tpg are quite nice actually.. i dont see how the words "haha" and "lol" and "nearly man" and "good s***" signify that they are whining little s***s, and as typo puts it, the tards of the universe. I think you have to have a serious look at your sterotyping. Maby you see little 14 year olds acting like wankers, fine.. they are tards but that doesn't mean that anyone who plays the game is a f***witt.

Also, do you know me and Tollaz? I dont remember meeting you.. ever. So how can you call us tards? again, typical sterotyping.
eYe_kAnDy
Posts: 2720
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Toll is three-times the man you'll ever be.
Rommel
Posts: 1914
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
To Arms kandy!
Primal
Posts: 636
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use the "Please shoot me" cheat...

Quite fun, you should try it... :P
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1629
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well the ppl on tpg are quite nice actually.. i dont see how the words "haha" and "lol" and "nearly man" and "good s***" signify that they are whining little s***s, and as typo puts it, the tards of the universe. I think you have to have a serious look at your sterotyping. Maby you see little 14 year olds acting like wankers, fine.. they are tards but that doesn't mean that anyone who plays the game is a f***witt.

Also, do you know me and Tollaz? I dont remember meeting you.. ever. So how can you call us tards? again, typical sterotyping.


Hahah

I think its more than bitching and whining maby there is a deep hatred inside him towards anyone under 30?


Tool.

Toll is three-times the man you'll ever be.


Hahaha I'm sure you know exactly "how much of a man" he realy is.



bi_channel_subwoofer
Posts: 686
Location: Brisbane, Queensland


Hahaha I'm sure you know exactly "how much of a man" he realy is.



LOL!!!


eh?
[_cRaYmAn_]
Posts: 25
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Being a spammer like me is okay. However cheating is obviously for people lacking something in the l337n355 department! Being the crap CS player that I am I hate cheaters ruining it even more for me. But we mustn't forget the people who are actually good at CS who are constantly blamed for cheating and are banned from servers under false conviction. Playing CS in 512x384 @ 20fps is quite normal for me and on 28k it looks like all ADSL players are cheating! NOT WHINING, but bottom line is cheaters suck, and CS has gone downhill ever since. Who would you prefer; A crap n00bah like me who is easy to hit and kill before I can even see you, or a cheating bastard who will kill you through a wall on the other side of the map!

DIE CHEATERS!
§PLAT
Posts: 1516
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Understood.. but your name sucks loose the @$(*@$^%@(* bulls*** or get flamed :P
Hemerage
Posts: 2534
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what kinda of s*** computer do u have crayman which can only run cs @ 512x384 res

f***... even a gf4MX can pull 30
*giggles*
[_cRaYmAn_]
Posts: 26
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

It's gettin late, but I'll reply...
I have an Aptiva that has been slightly upgraded by myself. I am a hardware expert with little funding (aren't we all!) and strangely enough I WANT to change my name, but my account is frozen, no joke. I can't change anything at all, but at least my post count hasn't reset again!
§PLAT
Posts: 1517
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Your proud of your post count? Ahhh your cool, everyone else is being wankers so ill be different and ill be nice.
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1630
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
our proud of your post count? Ahhh your cool, everyone else is being wankers so ill be different and ill be nice.


Calling everyone wankers, and then proclaiming you are nice is a contradiction.
[_cRaYmAn_]
Posts: 30
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Hmm, was gonna reply, but my computer crashed (not uncommon for IBM's), don't be jealous Typo, EVERYONE likes cRaYmAn, must be the name!
Silent-bob
Posts: 938
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the majority of CS players i know in person are good blokes, so maybe you should try speaking to some before you generalise them.

i mean its quite blatantly obvious you hate CS and the people that play it, why would you write a f***ing essay on it.

i mean i dont care about you and your generalised opinions, but atleast im not writing an essay on why i dont like your opinions.
Primal
Posts: 640
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
All cheaters are losers...
Fish
Posts: 261
Location: Other International
modify game = cheat

not really. I played tf long long time ago, and used to give the characters new skins. not to make them more visible, but just so that they'd look cooler. And with cs (before it turned into the gayfest that it is now), I'd change the guns to other models (and none of them spiky ones either) just because I prefer one rifle to another... Just how and why you modify the game....
§PLAT
Posts: 1529
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Exactly Fish.. i modified the sights of the rifle and all i get now is a rather large non transparent grey box where the sight should be. Cant use rifle sights now. not happy. lol
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4550
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Well, I hope you guys have tried the modify your gun model/sound experiament.

Replace your Scout firing noise with a much beefier noise, such as the AWP noise, then run around with it and see how you go..

Do the same with Glock, replace it with a beefier looking/sounding gun and see how it goes.
Or for better effects (for me anyway) is to grab the p228 and get its models and sound changed to a Deagle or something tough, it feels like the gun does more damage and so you are more confident with it, which usually means you're more likly to spend a little extra time aiming it up (more confidence) so it will seem to do more damage then usual.

Try going the other way, grab your AK and make it sound like a pea shooter then watch how it seems to take more to kill people (seems).

By changing your models and sound you can give yourself a better or lower psychological advantage, not too much, but it is still there.

So if you havnt tried it yet, grab at least the Scout and p228 and change em to be much tougher looking AND sounding, then watch the frags come in, for a while then you get used to it and treat the guns like normal (I think).
Tpyodemon
Posts: 1660
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the majority of CS players i know in person are good blokes, so maybe you should try speaking to some before you generalise them.

i mean its quite blatantly obvious you hate CS and the people that play it, why would you write a f***ing essay on it.

i mean i dont care about you and your generalised opinions, but atleast im not writing an essay on why i dont like your opinions.


No just little statements.

§PLAT
Posts: 1532
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Typo.. you really have to talk to someone about your rage
Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4553
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
?

You lost me there.
Hemerage
Posts: 2599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
modify game which gives an unfair advantage = cheat


Too true Tollaz0r!!!!! thats why i suck on other ppls pc or at Lan cafes :D

My scout sound atm is beefy and i f***in pwn with it :D
Same with the deagle

Im using my own custom model which i made for cs and its not bad i reckon :D
(pity the dude who did the animations is a retard and f***ed the shoot animation :@ ... the chamber bit pops out the side when you shoot .. i mean wtf!)
http://users.bigpond.net.au/mkill/deagle1.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/mkill/deagle2.jpg
My model... someone else did the texture (Guriammo from CSS)
§PLAT
Posts: 1533
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
fakin nice. you shold replace the rifles with like artifical legs to give u a humourious phych advantage :P


Tollaz0r!
Posts: 4554
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Like Dukes Mighty Kick.


He Mighty Kicks with his right leg. And you can select Kick as your weapon. That used the left leg.

O the funnies at kicking and mighty kicking at the same time...
Corrupt
Posts: 321
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well lets see you want to understand while people cheat

reason: they can see thru walls so they feel they are powerful and it is this feeling that they cheat for...
simple if you can't figure it out try it yourself... maybe against some bots on your own pc ?
§PLAT
Posts: 1535
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ill be right. I already play against realbot AI, and they are as hard as online players but i feel no need to cheat.

Its like in GTA3, i had a hell load of phun playing that.. then i found out that cheats and it became to easy to finish everything. I dont see any need to cheat, even against bots.
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