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Topic: SUPER; an alternative app to Mediacoder and Handbrake
Pinky
Posts: 3545
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

The download link is harder to find than bloody Atlantis (I had to Ctrl + F and search for 'download' and navigate three pages to the download link) - but this program is absolutely excellent and 100% free.

http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1395/superencoder2.gif

btw, I just Googled this image, but I realise now that it's quite old. There are more options than above, and I'm using MP4->WMV (for PPTX pres.) and I can tell you the WMV converter is not experimental anymore :-)))
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thermite
Posts: 3493
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Everyone knows SUPER.

I'm interested to hear more about mediacoder and handbrake??
Pinky
Posts: 3550
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Everyone knows SUPER.

I'm interested to hear more about mediacoder and handbrake??

Every thread on this forum says otherwise, including the one I made 6 months or so ago. Hence the creation of this thread.

EDIT: I stand corrected:

http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/os/thread.php/2782796
http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/os/thread.php/2669330

And it was mentioned when I asked. How did I miss that?

http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/os/thread.php/2687045
Triamks
Posts: 2665
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I endorse this Pinky thread.
TiT
Posts: 2758
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeh i use to use it however its dating quite old now so i have changed
Pinky
Posts: 3551
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Nah, not old. Last update is 10th June 2009.
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 28750
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Not to be pedantic, but 100% free to me implies that it is open source and distributed under a free software license :P
I'm interested to hear more about mediacoder and handbrake??
DON'T use mediacoder. I used to use it exclusively, but it has changed heaps and is no longer open source. The guy developing it has realised he can make money out of it and has turned it into a commercial application and has drawn the ire of the FSF. See my blog post for more info. It's on the ffmpeg hall of shame.

Handbrake, on the other hand, is totally free, totally awesome, and totally awesome. Not as flexible but does what most people want.
Twinsen
Posts: 452
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Good thread, I'm looking for something like this at the moment, have a whole bunch of stuff which need to put on the iPhone.

Thanks for the app recommendation.


last edited by Twinsen at 10:36:11 21/Dec/09
Midda
Posts: 4360
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Cool, I'll check this out. MediaCoder is so unreliable that I completely gave up on it, and Handbrake, while excellent at what it does, could use some more options. I haven't needed to transcode anything for ages, but I just started to look around yesterday so I could put videos on my new Android handset.
Pinky
Posts: 3554
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

Yeah MediaCoder is terribly unreliable. Crashes every other attempt at conversion. It's not even Alpha-stable in my opinion. If he's trying to make money, tell him he's dreaming until he fixes the stability issues.

Handbrake is great for iPod Touch type work, but SUPER is much better as a general tool.
ravn0s
Posts: 8958
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
err wheres the download link? i cant find it on that page
TiT
Posts: 2759
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.erightsoft.info/GetFile.php?SUPERsetup.exe
Seven
Posts: 1069
Location: Wollongong, New South Wales
I've used MeGUI for years.
tequila
Posts: 4862
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you werent wrong about that bloody link being hard to find
Hogfather
Posts: 4562
Location: Cairns, Queensland
DON'T use mediacoder. I used to use it exclusively, but it has changed heaps and is no longer open source. The guy developing it has realised he can make money out of it and has turned it into a commercial application and has drawn the ire of the FSF

What an evil motherf***er. Do we have his address for a good old fashioned pitchfork & burning?
tequila
Posts: 4873
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
haha hogfather with a funny

I like it
Pinky
Posts: 3562
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

You're spot on Hog. I thought the same when I read trog's post. You don't know what circumstances changed in the dev's life. Maybe he was made redundant and suddenly needed a source of income. Maybe he just decided he wanted to be wealthier than God. Either way, s'all good!

Now, where's some AGN ads that I can go click on...
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 28764
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

You're spot on Hog. I thought the same when I read trog's post. You don't know what circumstances changed in the dev's life. Maybe he was made redundant and suddenly needed a source of income. Maybe he just decided he wanted to be wealthier than God. Either way, s'all good!

Now, where's some AGN ads that I can go click on...
he was already developing the software in such a way that he had a revenue stream:

1) it was ad laden like nothing else I've ever seen. Anything you did would open the official website with a billion ads on it

2) he had commercial support available for it as a service option (although one of the commercial options was a commandline only version which I'm sure would have been GPL violating as well)

3) he had a commercial cloud encoding service --- this is what he should have focused on. I would have been tempted to outsource our encoding to such a service but I wasn't confident about the overall level of support we'd receive based on a few other issues (like the growing cloudiness of the licensing of the software - which as it turns out I was right to be hesitant about it)
3dee
Posts: 4846
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Everyone knows SUPER.

I don't.
Zylox
Posts: 1200
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i ended up with some AVS s*** that was on the same page.... bastards. 45mb down the tube.

here
Bottom of this page!


whoop
Posts: 15118
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I use mediacoder because it's the only program that seems to not hate the video files my PVR spits out, some programs won't open the audio, others can't figure out the video and others that can open both often have the audio a few seconds out of sync by the end of the movie.
koopz
Posts: 8369
Location: New Zealand
Super needs CUDA support.


actually, come to think of it.. all modern day apps that don't have CUDA support need do come over to linux. We still use the humble old cpu to process stuff here. Hey - call us old but we get it done.


meanwhile: http://www.badaboomit.com


hey... things change - I might be wrong

last edited by koopz at 18:59:12 21/Dec/09
Midda
Posts: 4365
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What a f***ing effort. You actually have to go through the page in a certain order. Just following that link that TiT posted doesn't work.
Raven
Posts: 3987
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
DON'T use mediacoder. I used to use it exclusively, but it has changed heaps and is no longer open source. The guy developing it has realised he can make money out of it and has turned it into a commercial application and has drawn the ire of the FSF.

Your other reasons for not using it are valid, but this one's just stupid. Oh no, heaven forbid someone realised they can make a career out of software development! How dare someone make money from hard work! Quick, veto Microsoft, because paying for software is wrong!
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 28769
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Your other reasons for not using it are valid, but this one's just stupid. Oh no, heaven forbid someone realised they can make a career out of software development! How dare someone make money from hard work! Quick, veto Microsoft, because paying for software is wrong!
I was not clear; its not that he's making money out of it - it's that he's violating the FFMPEG license to do so

edit: here's the ffmpeg hall of shame thread; http://roundup.ffmpeg.org/roundup/ffmpeg/issue1162

it's changed heaps since I last looked! stanley (developer of mediacoder) has mixed it up in there and gotten smashed by a couple of ffmpeg devs. He's asking for clarification and they're just saying 'read the license' so I'm not sure what the current issue is, other than they still think he's violating the license. They certainly could be more helpful especially as its clear stanley is not a first-language english speaker.
whoop
Posts: 15122
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
How would you feel if someone was making money off software you'd previously written & given away for free? Yeah I didn't think you'd like it very much.

edit: my comment was to raven
E.T.
Posts: 2311
Location: Queensland
Yeah, we've known about Super for a long time here at QGL :)

A thread from Jan 08

Thread from April 08

A thread from Jan 09

And, I think it was Maxe who told you about Super in this thread from Dec 08.

Its been mentioned heaps more, but you get the idea.



Dan
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Posts: 9862
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's all well and good to rip on Mediacoder because of its GPL violations, but speaking from my own experiences with these all-in-one converters, it's still the one with the biggest success rate on successfully encoding various input files.

Have to work with game trailers, game publishers send those videos out in all manner of formats. Most .mov, .mp4 and .wmv these days, but with seemingly every conceivable codec variation for those three that you can imagine.

SUPER isn't too bad, but its interface (and download page) is complete and utter ass. Takes forever to load the first time and when move the window somewhere else on the screen it arbitrarily pops back to it's preferred positition, it's like a really bad java app without using java.

Handbrake has a terrific interface and is pretty solid for me, but it just flat-out fails to transcode many of the formats I send it's way. Also, it doesnt support avisynth scripts.

Mediacoder however does, and despite being pretty fiddly to make sure all your settings are right, it can at least handle most formats (not everything admittedly) that I throw at it. It also supports avisynth and even basic CUDA (albeit pretty buggy).

MeGUI is great and pretty versatile, but it's pretty cumbersome to set up multiple encodes, cause you have no choice but to use avisynth.

last edited by Dan at 19:42:34 21/Dec/09
parabol
Posts: 5586
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I was not clear; its not that he's making money out of it - it's that he's violating the FFMPEG license to do so

edit: here's the ffmpeg hall of shame thread

Holy f*** I just read that and feel like smashing that dude over the internet through my monitor. His solution to not having to release the source was to rewrite the EULA! wtf.
koopz
Posts: 8371
Location: New Zealand
hey the offer is still there... :P
Seven
Posts: 1078
Location: Wollongong, New South Wales
Handbrake annoys me, it never gives me my desired filesize.

MeGUI is great and pretty versatile, but it's pretty cumbersome to set up multiple encodes, cause you have no choice but to use avisynth.

MeGUI has become better over time, especially due to the one-click encoder. Then queuing is not a problem.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-zA4G7c4UjM/Sy8-wlQFmeI/AAAAAAAAEWU/eXMZvcBbDeU/s400/MeGUI 0.3.1.1056 21122009 82356 PM.jpg
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