Most people here dont follow the conspiracy dramas that rise to the surface every once and a while but the latest one has really fractured the community in a big way.

Alex Jones posted an interview that Charlie Sheen did with Obama dealing with 9/11 and a new inquiry being launched.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president.html

For a few hours after it was posted it seemed to be legit but then Alex Jones posted a disclaimer saying the interview never took place.

This has angered many people and some are accusing Alex Jones of spreading DisInformation and promoting his site at the expense of 9/11 victims and satirizing the 9/11 Truth Movement.

Well its picked up more steam now and has crossed over into Mainstream Media with Charlie Sheen coming out and saying he was behind it with Alex Jones and wants to interview Obama about 9/11.
skip to 4:20 if you just want to hear what Sheen says...




Sen McCains daughter has come out and paralleled Sheens failure to accept the governments version of 9/11 as being like Holocaust Denial.

Now Foxnews O'reilly and Geraldo Rivera have got in on the action and called Sheen crazy and wants him taken off TV.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/rivera-oreilly-smear-sheen-as-crazy-for-questioning-911.html

The only good thing about this post is the idea of Charlie Sheen being taken off TV.

I thought the Nazi's did it.

but sheen doesn't even say anything about 9/11 except that he has some questions n would like an interview with the prez. woop de fukn do. i have questions too about stuff... get krudd on the line stat! :P

demon wants to speak to Rudd!?
OH EM GEE! He must know that Australia really has Neuclear Weapons! Quick hide them.

heheh i should have said i have questions about PINE GAP & wanna talk to the big cheese... faceman would be all over that s***. ;D

ahahaha

shouldnt he speak to bush since he was the retard in office at the time?

they're both part of the same lizard species so what's the difference?

I can't believe Charlie Sheen got up and said Beyonce's presidency was better.

no because he was the original LIAR!@

where as obama might actually have a chance of coming clean

I call Nephilim mind control!

holy s***, bill o'reilly is actually right about something for once...

who would trust any government to do the right thing? the government is not your friend.

that sure is dramatic - the music, presentation and extremely selective quoting really sets it off

...and has crossed over into Mainstream Media with Tom Cruise...

who would trust any government to do the right thing? the government is not your friend.

That's why you need full automatic concealed weapons !!!
Well that and hunting your own meals ...

this was a good film

http://www.impawards.com/1993/posters/hot_shots_part_deux_ver1.jpg

Well he wants Obama to open up a new investigation.
There is a lot of sane people that question the majority of 9/11.
http://www.911summary.com/

Including Commissioners from the Original inquiry.
Hardly nutcases.

shawty!

edit: ps. it's there are you stupid chucklef***

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8.5 words and you needed an edit ? lolz

Ever notice John Howard and Krudd look intimidated or frightened in the presence of the President?
At least these high profile people are pursuing this s***.

Molten rock was still found days after the building came down. This could only be caused by thermite that is used to cut steel beams in the demolition of a building. There is footage of these structural steel beams cut on a diagonal just as they would if they were doing a controlled demolition.
What did they do at the Pentagon after the federal investigators had finished? The covered the entire so called "crash" site with 4' (1.2m) of dirt fill to hide the site from the public.

Get the f*** out with your conspiracy s***. f*** me i love these people that say it should have happened like this or that or whatever, but the fact is, how many f***ing times of the week do you see an airliner crash into a f***ing sky scraper?

i always love all the structural engineers that come out in the 9/11 conspiracy thread talking about how the building just couldn't have fallen down after a plane flew into it

no really tell me more zylox, i'm sure you've learnt alot about highrise structures and what holds them up in your time as a plasterer

FaceMan - Sanity has little to do with holding stupid beliefs. Plenty of sane people belong to a religion.

I wonder if the Pentagon is made with some good old fashioned concrete;


F4 Phantom Jet Hits Concrete Wall at 500 MPH - Watch more Insane Military Explosions

http://nyccan.org/

We, the undersigned Families, First Responders and Survivors of September 11 raise our voice with those from across our country and around the world in support of NYC CAN and the establishment of an independent, impartial subpoena powered investigation into the events surrounding the September 11 attacks on our nation.

We believe a new investigation is our only path forward to the answers and accountability every American deserves and our only path back to the moral high ground upon which our great nation was built.

We unite with NYC CAN and the citizens of the City of New York in support of an unbiased nonpolitical rendering of evidence and fact wherever they may lead and ask every American and every concerned citizen of the world, in defense of our nation and in defense of freedom, to join with us today.



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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

Nano Thermite - www.world911truth.org/steven-jones-on-nanothe


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http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

'Below are excerpts from the lists of questions the Family Steering Committee has submitted to the 9/11 Commission.'

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http://www.patriotsquestion911.com

200+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
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i suppose it's just like the moon landing
if it's a major event in the USA's history, it'll be rubbished and the sceptics will have something to fill their small brains with.

i suppose it's just like the moon landing
if it's a major event in the USA's history, it'll be rubbished and the sceptics will have something to fill their small brains with.

The moon landing is just a stupid distractionary argument in attempt to muddy the waters from actual research and questions the family members themselves have.

We landed on the moon...case closed.

Try researching and looking at the information posted above your reply please.

Molten rock was still found days after the building came down.

Says who?, wheres the link

This could only be caused by thermite that is used to cut steel beams in the demolition of a building.

And you know this how?

There is footage of these structural steel beams cut on a diagonal just as they would if they were doing a controlled demolition.

Why cant beams fail/break in diagonal lines? There was obviously alot of beams and stuff in the WTC, its not plausible that some broke diagnonaly?

Given the ambiguity in the opinions of the Original 9/11 enquiry commissioners, why not just establish a new enquiry with independent judiciial powers.

Obama doesn't need to worry, it's got nothing to do with him.

Molten rock was still found days after the building came down.

Says who?, wheres the link

Molten Metal ... not Rock as that user you quoted said.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3060923273573302287#

This could only be caused by thermite that is used to cut steel beams in the demolition of a building.

And you know this how?

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/gen.php?file=7TOCPJ.pdf - http://www.911blogger.com/node/19761

There is footage of these structural steel beams cut on a diagonal just as they would if they were doing a controlled demolition.

Why cant beams fail/break in diagonal lines? There was obviously alot of beams and stuff in the WTC, its not plausible that some broke diagnonaly?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thermiteonwtccolumns.jpg

Who knows when that was taken but columns don't cut themselves as neatly like that.

Given the ambiguity in the opinions of the Original 9/11 enquiry commissioners, why not just establish a new enquiry with independent judiciial powers.

Obama doesn't need to worry, it's got nothing to do with him.

Exactly.

The Victim's family members, first responders, survivors, New York residents & concerned citizens worldwide want an independent investigation with subpeona power.

And yet it's "CRAZY" and all the b/s about Aliens, Reptoids & Jews being involved really disgusts me and shows the level of intelligence from the people who use that tactic to "argue".

I'm not disrespecting the family members...I'm supporting them.

wait a minute...
Zy are you suggesting that Debris from a building that burned so intensly that it collapsed actually caused another building to collapse ?
Why was it the only one to collapse ? Other buildings were also damaged by Debris.
The building didnt fall over. It went down like a controlled demolition.

The Pentagon did not have walls designed to absorb the crash of a lightweight Jet fighter let alone a fully loaded passenger plane complete with luggage.
Did you even look at the Pentagon ? Whatever hit it went through the first wall. It didnt "disintergrate" on impact.

Photobucket removed my original pic of this.
Yeah sure ... Debris did that.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/ggb777/wtc7an.gif

This could only be caused by thermite

f*** you, I was at home playing Day of Defeat when it happened

The argument for what happened to WTC7 is pretty good, there is plenty of evidence and a logical flow of events. Saying it was specially demolished has less evidence and doesn't have as good a flow of events to explain it.

For the serious and mature people who can handle doing a bit of research I suggest a few films:

Piratebay or Googlevideo them -

9/11: Blueprint for truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4617650616903609314#
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4412090/911.Blueprint.for.Truth.2008.Edition.DVDRip.XviD

9/11: In their own words
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4399917864007973679#

IN THEIR OWN WORDS: THE UNTOLD STORIES OF THE 9/11 FAMILIES is the new, official companion DVD to 9/11 Press For Truth (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481#). Over 2 hours of unseen families’ interviews and rare news clips originally intended for inclusion in the movie ended up on the cutting room floor – until now.

A unique, balanced look at a diverse group of topics includes: Top officials’ whereabouts and changing stories on the day of 9/11; Insider trading before the attacks; War games coinciding with Sept. 11th; A confrontation between the families and FBI Director Mueller; British reports that some of the hijackers named by the FBI are simply wrong; Government whistleblowers’ calls for accountability; The FBI informant who lived with 2 of the hijackers; A Defense Department program that identified 4 hijackers in 2000; The families’ push to receive the Pentagon crash tapes; Bin Laden extradition negotiations after 9/11; The Project For the New American Century.

The Victim's family members, first responders, survivors, New York residents & concerned citizens worldwide want an independent investigation with subpeona power.

What about the Victim's family members, first responders, survivors, New York residents & concerned citizens worldwide that don't want another investigation and accept the official version of 9/11.

The Victim's family members, first responders, survivors, New York residents & concerned citizens worldwide want an independent investigation with subpeona power.

What about the Victim's family members, first responders, survivors, New York residents & concerned citizens worldwide that don't want another investigation and accept the official version of 9/11.

That's their choice isn't it?

And yet it's "CRAZY" and all the b/s about Aliens, Reptoids & Jews being involved really disgusts me and shows the level of intelligence from the people who use that tactic to "argue".

mate if you weren't such a noob you'd know that faceman, who posted this thread, makes posts about aliens, reptoids, jewminati & all the rest of the abovetopsecret favourites on a regular basis. his credibility is zero. hence all the jokes.

sure there may be plenty of garbled information from the time.. there always is with an event so significant & massive. but imo no amount of inquiries will change the bottom line which is :- terrorists hijacked aeroplanes & flew them into some buildings.

seems to me there are people who live on the other side of the planet, had absolutely nothing to do with the event or any way of gethering information about it except via the internet where everyone knows you will never find only truthful details & still it consumes thier attention... nothing better to do with time? :D

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/thermiteonwtccolumns.jpg

lol looks more like its square like the other ones but on an angle and thermite doesnt cut straight anyway

http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/11/1-000-Pounds-of-Thermite-605934.html

but imo no amount of inquiries will change the bottom line which is :- terrorists hijacked aeroplanes & flew them into some buildings.

Yes, of course. Religious students living in caves in Afghanistan controlled by The Taliban were able to travel to America and learn to fly Passenger AirLiners into the World Trade Centers Towers unchallenged by a Military that can respond to a Nuclear Attack in minutes but couldnt stop 4 Civilian Airliners.

That takes an astounding amount of gullibility to accept.

faceman, do you have a job?

How many times have hijacked planes been crashed into buildings? They didn't shoot them down because what normally happens is the hijacker makes a retarded request (like the guy last week who wanted to talk to the President of Mexico about an earthquake he saw in a divine revelation).

Can I ever watch 2 and a half men again after this? hahah

Yes, of course. Religious students living in caves in Afghanistan controlled by The Taliban were able to travel to America and learn to fly Passenger AirLiners into the World Trade Centers Towers unchallenged by a Military that can respond to a Nuclear Attack in minutes but couldnt stop 4 Civilian Airliners.

yeah but no supersonic intercept they couldnt get there in time by the time they
knew what was happening

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_11

10 minutes to take off intercept and shoot down not going to happen

I can't believe Charlie Sheen has sunk this low. I'm talking about 2 and a half men.

Yes, of course. Religious students living in caves in Afghanistan controlled by The Taliban were able to travel to America and learn to fly Passenger AirLiners into the World Trade Centers Towers unchallenged by a Military that can respond to a Nuclear Attack in minutes but couldnt stop 4 Civilian Airliners.

That takes an astounding amount of gullibility to accept.

it sure does. i wouldn't believe that either... so probably something else, which niether you nor i know about, was what actually happened.

I'm talking about 2 and a half men.

Maybe Charlie Sheen becoming a 9/11 conspiracy nut is what killed Spin City.

^ photoshops

RE: How many times have hijacked planes been crashed into buildings? They didn't shoot them down because what normally happens is the hijacker makes a retarded request (like the guy last week who wanted to talk to the President of Mexico about an earthquake he saw in a divine revelation).

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Oh you mean how often do 4 x 757 Passenger Jets get hijacked and flown into buildings with no fighter jets to intercept them with 1 able to penetrate the most secure airspace on this planet and crash into the Pentagon?

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

FaceMan, there are pictures around that show the other side of Building 7 to be SEVERELY damaged by debris ... something the 911 truthers don't ever seem to show.

dont be silly, thats no where near as dramatic as showing the undamaged side falling down in a few seconds for no apparent reason

When in reality the damaged side was on fire for hours, had huge chunks missing, partly collapsed when a beam failed and then about ten seconds later collapsed completely.

FaceMan, there are pictures around that show the other side of Building 7 to be SEVERELY damaged by debris ... something the 911 truthers don't ever seem to show.

SEVERLY really.

Can you show us this devasting damage?

And how does that make a building symmetrically fall into its structural footprint in a nice neat pile 3 storeys high?

Oh s*** guys, here's the truth:
http://i30.tinypic.com/1rvvj4.gif

matt you are retarded.

the douchebaggery is strong in this thread

Just need Kanye West to post now.

Yep it shows the level of research some people do here when they resort to primary school level attacks like "Retard" & "Douchebag".

You guys really showed me! :)

And how did your research of the clip Zy posted go?

Nobody should give a flying ducks ass about 9/11 because there are a large number of still on going conflicts around the world which require the attention of governments. A single event which took the lives of under 3000 people does not warrant so much attention.

We should be looking to stop current conflicts rather than concentrating on the past.

Why should I bother to research (except all already have, because this argument has been done for 8 f***ing years now), for you when you just ignore what we say and strawman some other bulls***.

you won't learn, why bother.

Is this guy a retard? A douchebag? Grow up people.

And how did your research of the clip Zy posted go?

I'm lost for words man...look at how it collapses.

Many steel structured buildings have been heavily damaged by fire and still stand today. If a core column was damaged it would of leaned to one side and toppled over, not a clean symmetrical collapse onto it's own structural footprint.

What about the victims of conspiracy theorists? Nobody ever mentions them and their families. I mean we sit here all peaceful and quiet on our internet reading the forums and all of a sudden we get bombarded by YouTube videos of unknown people post after post.

I mean.. what about me?
You guys know it isn't fair.
Some of us have really had enough and just want our share.
I know it's hard but can't you see.
That really all I want to do is live.
But some people just take more than they can give.

manny badillo is entirely unconvincing

manny badillo is entirely unconvincing

How so? Did you loose an uncle?

He did my friend....

RE: TicMan... it's the topic of the thread, I'm not forcing you to be disrespectful.

This is exactly what happened with the treadmill debate.


Clearly we need to get mythbusters onto this one.

lose*

If a core column was damaged it would of leaned to one side and toppled over, not a clean symmetrical collapse onto it's own structural footprint.

I am not a Civil Engineer with detailed blue prints of the structure with 100% of the facts of the damage that the debris and fire caused so I am not qualified to say how it would fall.

But dude, he read a story on the internet explaining why it should have happened differently so that means he has all the facts.