Check out this highlights reel from Round 4 of the Cybergamer Invitational League

It features Australia's top players and teams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8xfssLIGY

Yeah COD5's pretty mad
i play it online
on the PC of course, cos a game ain't a game without a keyboard and mouse

see that's funny, because there's no such thing as cod5.


also, codwaw is s***.

a game ain't a game without a keyboard and mouse

I hear that brother.

see that's funny, because there's no such thing as cod5.


also, codwaw is s***.

yea its not as good as cod 4 MW or upcoming MW2, but its alright.

These guys are still amazing tho.

Yeah COD5's pretty mad
i play it online
on the PC of course, cos a game ain't a game without a keyboard and mouse

Isnt this the console forum?

Some of us read a different forum http://qgl.ausforums.com which doesn't have categories and just mashes everything together. We're old and we hate change and shake our walking stick at the younguns as they walk by. Just ignore mr console hater.

Right I see its the same forum. Interesting.

even the noobiest pc player could kick those conslols 'pros' easily.

On AusGamers all threads also go into the General Chat forum http://www.ausgamers.com/forums/general/index.php which is essentially the same as the QGL list. The categories are more just for filtering at this point in time.

Anyhow. Welcome to the forums and thanks for sharing.

sorta funny, as games get more complicated visually, videos like that are almost impossible to watch on youtube - you just don't get the resolution you need to really see what is going on.

And yeh, its depressing watching FPS gamers on consoles moving like they're in slow motion :( its a pretty cool vid tho

edit: props gamestah!@#

damn that vid had horrible commentating

f*** off frakture
and yeah, console's are s***.

these 2 posts in this thread from Dint have been the best he's ever made on qgl

speaks nothing but the truth

even the noobiest pc player could kick those conslols 'pros' easily.

Are you saying, if both console player and pc player played against each other on pc? Or both the console player and the pc player play each other on console.

Are you saying, if both console player and pc player played against each other on pc? Or both the console player and the pc player play each other on console.

I think the gist of his point was that if you are playing FPS on a console, you are a moron and therefore must be s*** at PC.

if you interest in full video replays with commentary Gamestah (thx trog) are doing a dozen or so a week, most are live - so the quality is not perfect but certainly watchable.

http://www.gamestah.com/file/search-video

as for the horrible commentary comment, well we all got to start somewhere... its certainly not as easy as people like to think, all are welcome to give it a crack!

lastest files are at the bottom of that list... (in the terms of quality as we had some problems at the start getting the best combination right)

and yeah, console's are s***.

I don't know, some games are just better on a console.

and yeah, console's are s***.

I don't know, some games are just better on a console.

Quite true. Although I have to say for myself FPS's are much easier to control on a PC than a console, I just can't do it on a console to save my life.

unscoped sniper kills make me rage.

and yeah, console's are s***.

I don't know, some games are just better on a console.

Yeah, like Pokemon Snap.

or mario party games.

thanks for agreeing with me guys.

(they're still games and people still play them)

cod5 was frustrating, couldn't get into it as much as i did/do halo3. still was a MUCH better online game than gears2. god that was horrible to play online.

and alot of the maps in cod5 were horrible too.

cod6 looks good though.

infi, what name do you play under? Also what servers are you normally on?
I've been playing on some of the local HC servers for a few weeks now, really enjoying it.

and alot of the maps in cod5 were horrible too

Geez Giri, I'm so impressed at the detail and varity in the COD WOW maps. What didnt you like about the maps? Also, did you play piro all the time? ;p

haha, i've had to stop playing pyro in tf2, been playing soldier alot more. A class that would be useful in clan games :p (pyro is about 20x more fun though).

the variety is there in the maps, nothing against that, i just think they're pretty poorly designed. Most have no natural flow to them, there were alot of very campy areas right ontop of respawns, i can't nail down the reason why now, i'ts been too long since i played it, but i do remember thinking back and thinking how poor alot of the maps were. Not all, some are really decent.

gamestah's commentary is awesome! they used to shoutcast a bunch of our tf2 matches. absolute champs.

giririssss, you're always gonna get s*** maps no matter which game you play. I actually believe COD5 has some of the best maps around. Sub Pens, Makin Day, Banzai, Outskirts all incorporate some very different and well laid out ways to have a fair game for both sides, no stupid camping points and fun for all i reckon.

they talk funny

I usually play on Internode servers ET

i usually play on wodgamers.com standard or hardcore

Console gaming is the only way. Nothing like kicking it back on the couch in front of a 42" full HD LCD.

Console gaming is the only way. Nothing like kicking it back on the couch in front of a 42" full HD LCD.

That's great if you're trying to chill with a game and just trying to have fun, but FPS games aren't about that to me, especially multiplayer ones.

They're about beating other people who are really good at the game. That's not something I can do kicking back on the couch; I can only bring my A game if I'm at a PC, inches from the monitor, wired in my chair on a mouse !@#

troggles knows where it's at.. PC fo' life.

Plus after having a hardcore session of CoD you can flip open redtube and have a hardcore session of private time.

Sounds pretty serious, trog.

I like consoles for the social aspect, chilling out with mates on a couch. But for online multi-player, consoles can go get f***ed. And anyway, isn't the reason for having a TV so you can say to your missus, "Hey your fave show is on!" so you can get some one-on-one time with the computer? :-P

EDIT *fixed*

That's great if you're trying to chill with a game and just trying to have fun, but FPS games aren't about that to me, especially multiplayer ones.

They're about beating other people who are really good at the game. That's not something I can do kicking back on the couch; I can only bring my A game if I'm at a PC, inches from the monitor, wired in my chair on a mouse !@#

exactly

When I cut across from PC FPS to console FPS, after I adjusted to using the control pad I found it was just the same.

Although I've never been leet at the PC or console FPS...

I reckon if COD5 multiplayer, was cross platform you wouldn't be able to tell pc and console players apart.

i reckon i'd f***ing flog you conslol c***s at fps games if it were cross platform

fyi

don't bet on it regank
pc players will always own

I remember there was a game where they did cross platform. They had to patch the game to give the conslols players autoaim and other advantages because they were getting slaughtered, everytime.

i reckon i'd f***ing flog you conslol c***s at fps games if it were cross platform

fyi

Actually there are some halo players out there that would slap you down no matter what you were using.

there is no way you can aim with a s***ty controller as well as with mouse. no way jose.

tis troo!

You'd be surprised how good their aim is in general, alot of the guys who do play proffesionaly with halo use a really high in game sens, with the stick being analogue they can move it quite accurately to where ever they want as fast/slow as they want.

I'm not saying i can, i'm f***ing s*** compared to them, but to rule it out shows ignorance.

I still think that mouse/keyboard is a much better controll mechanism too, for the record. But some people just get freaky good at this stuff.

troggles knows where it's at.. PC fo' life.

u just remember that ticcles when you are purchasing your mac

yeah giri there will those 1% that have the autistic like skills with the controller that we cannot comprehend, but i am talking about the ease of aiming for the general population and the mechanics of using a controller vs a mouse.

The thing is though, console games are made so that it's easier to aim on the conslols anyway. try playing the pc version with a controller, it'd be heaps harder.

could not stand those shoutcasters

I noticed in that s*** quality video that 90% of the shots/kills they make are not even aiming at the targets, the auto aim does it for them. EZ mode.

u just remember that ticcles when you are purchasing your mac

Don't be a hater!@ Although wifey successfully talked me out of it last night.. she used her psychology-magic on me :(

I believe that this will never be settled until it comes to the day which it can happen. This illusion that PC 'gamers' are better at FPS is a total crock....

When the time comes I will gladly go up against any PC 'gamer' in a game of COD.

Consoles are the leet way to game as this is what they are designed for. PC should be used for porn and whatever else it is people do on the internetz

It already is settled to us adults, we know PC's are better than consoles.. it's just little kiddys still holding onto the dream that their 360 is a competitive gaming machine.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It sure is nice gaming on a 42" Full HD TV with my one controller w/headset connected compared to sitting at a desk in front of ,maybe, a 24" monitor where i have to use a keyboard AND a mouse along with third party applications to chat and have accounts for games which I pay on a game to game basis.

Nice to have a once of payment of $70 for a years worth of ANY GAME I WANT !!!

You're too retarded to even be a troll.

CROSS OVER TO REAL GAMING... DO IT NOW!!!


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That's fine, I'll continue to enjoy games on both my PC set-up and consoles (with my enormous TV)

picture is missing the red ring

I thought PC Gamers were the only people who gave out red rings to each other...

I tried playing a console on my huge LCD TV but all the games on offer were crap, and the controls were crap too.

I thought PC Gamers were the only people who gave out red rings to each other...

your boyfriend only told you that cos he's just a giving kind of guy.
ps your gay

It already is settled to us adults, we know PC's are better than consoles.. it's just little kiddys still holding onto the dream that their 360 is a competitive gaming machine.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hmmm mlgpro.com. So actually we have some of the highest paid competitive gamers in the world.

Hows CGS going? wait CPL? wait ESWC? wait.... why would they all be closing down if PC competitive gaming was going so well?.

The xbox-360 console is still in its infancy, plenty of time to iron out the faults.

in its infancy???? it's almost 4 years old! that's grey nomad stage of a console's life!

did i mention my sony is 50" and yet i still prefer to game on my comptuar!?

what do you think of that console* loving ladies


*i play my wii a fair bit, but its more than a console to me and its got the second best controling method for a fps after mouse and keyboard!

ANYONE WHO MENTIONS NINTENDO F%#KIN WII...

DOES NOT HAVE A SAY IN THIS DISCUSSION!!!!

*i play my wii a fair bit, but its more than a console to me

HANG ON..... WTF ELSE DO YOU USE IT FOR???

The xbox-360 console is still in its infancy, plenty of time to iron out the faults

no it's not

ANYONE WHO MENTIONS NINTENDO F%#KIN WII...

DOES NOT HAVE A SAY IN THIS DISCUSSION!!!!

Obes?

consoletroll: deciding the rules of his own discussion.

I believe that this will never be settled until it comes to the day which it can happen. This illusion that PC 'gamers' are better at FPS is a total crock....

When the time comes I will gladly go up against any PC 'gamer' in a game of COD.

Consoles are the leet way to game as this is what they are designed for. PC should be used for porn and whatever else it is people do on the internetz

Well you can feel safe in this claim; your bravado will almost certainly never be tested.

It's pretty likely noone will ever make a multiplayer game than can talk across platforms like this, mostly for technical reasons - unless MS decide to make Live for Windows not suck and people start using it for dedicated servers and they design it in such a way that they can talk to the console clients as well.

I think it's unlikely though - the average PC gamer will s*** on a console gamer. I don't think this is a reflection on skill, it's just a simple limitation in the control method of console-based FPS games. You can't turn as fast, you can't aim as well, you don't have all the key options you do on a keyboard. That's not even thinking about hardware issues (PC gamers will be always able to keep upgrading and play the game in higher resolutions and at better framerates, resulting in a better play experience; I don't think anyone would argue that a more fluid framerate at higher resolutions is more conducive to better gaming (although I guess there's a point that it's unable to be differentiated).

Hmmm mlgpro.com. So actually we have some of the highest paid competitive gamers in the world.

Hows CGS going? wait CPL? wait ESWC? wait.... why would they all be closing down if PC competitive gaming was going so well?.

The xbox-360 console is still in its infancy, plenty of time to iron out the faults.

It is in its infancy! One thing it does have for it that PC gaming didn't have is MS with a (literally) US$1bn marketing budget. Give me $1bn and I'll turn PC gaming into something neat too.

I dunno if it's just me but that mlgpro website takes forf***ingever to load so I couldn't even check it out.

Xbox 360 "pro gaming" has a pretty good chance of surviving for a while, because your next hardware refresh won't be until like 2012. In 2012 PC gamers will be lightyears ahead so it'll be a totally different market - it's good in terms of technology, etc, but it's bad because that rapid evolution means there's little incentive to stay playing the same old crusty games (exception: Counter-Strike, which I fully anticipate will still be getting played).

i think pc gaming is the way to go , more options and customization for starters.

greazy said: 'I don't know, some games are just better on a console'.

I have to agree with you on that. I find racing/sport games more fun on consoles rather than PC.

Awesome. Flashback to a conversation in September 2009!

Welcome, friend.

conslol?

I find racing/sport games more fun on consoles rather than PC.

I don't get why people think this? You can hook up a PC to your 52" LCD whateva in living room and play sports/racing games from the comfort of your lounge with smoother and better graphics.. Is it the effort of hooking up a pc to tv in living room why sport/racing games is deemed less fun than consoles? My cousin lent me GRID for PS3, I played it for 5 min and turned the s*** off.. Wen't back to playing GRID on PC with far better graphics.

The latest racing wheel G27 is compatible with PS3 and PC..

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It's pretty likely noone will ever make a multiplayer game than can talk across platforms like this, mostly for technical reasons - unless MS decide to make Live for Windows not suck and people start using it for dedicated servers and they design it in such a way that they can talk to the console clients as well.

I know this thread is old, but I didn't see this comment from Trog. Cross-platform FPS was done a few years back with Shadowrun on 360 and Windows. It was tested, and the console player got destroyed.

the only thing i think consoles have in their favour is levelling the playing field with online pub play.

if you are all playing on the same machine its only a few minor settings that can be adjusted.
PC pub games will always have that element of better pc better chance of winning.

keyboard mouse will always be better for fps.

Cross-platform FPS was done a few years back with Shadowrun on 360 and Windows. It was tested, and the console player got destroyed.

So badly that the Shadowrun developers had to put in artificial slow downs to the mouse turning and whatnot.

From wiki:

Because of the lack of 'pixel-accuracy' with the Xbox 360 analog thumbstick, the designers have included an aim-assisting technology, which basically interpolates the player's movement and causes the reticle to stay over an enemy player like a weak magnet. In addition, FASA has implemented a feature which causes the cross-hair to expand during quick movements, thus lowering the player's accuracy, making it impossible to quickly turn and maintain accuracy, reducing the potential advantage of playing with a mouse.[6][7] PC players, who have a more sensitive control scheme, are able to turn significantly faster than their controller-using counterparts and would have gained an unfair advantage.

So Consolers got aimbot and PC uses got nerfed haha.

Martz you answered your own question.

I couldn't be bothered hooking my computer up to the TV. they're in different areas of the house, I probably have the cabling for it but no idea where they are. no idea what resolution to set so its clear on the tv.

also: local multiplayer. its just so much easier on a console.

there is no way you can aim with a s***ty controller as well as with mouse

I've been playing FPS games since doom and I STILL can't aim right. I suck so bad and have never improved.

On the "FPS on conslol" issue - I think it's much harder to adapt between games. It's pretty easy to go from one FPS to another on PC, and you can adapt with the mouse. On conslol I find it much harder though.

So console gamers are s*** because they use a platform that makes it harder to aim?
Right...

So console gamers are s*** because they use a platform that makes it harder to aim?

Console games are s***

Yeah the PC has heaps of awesome exclusive titles like... ummm...