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Topic: WTF is up with iTunes/Apple censorship?
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2580
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
OK so one of the best Smashing Pumpkins songs ever; The end is the beginning is the end, is flagged as "explicit" in the iTunes store. WTF? What, exactly, is explicit about the lyrics of this song. For those who are not familiar with it:


The sewers belch me up
The heavens spit me out
From ethers tragic I am born again
And now I'm with you now
Inside your world of wow
To move in desires made of deadly pretends
Till the end times begin

Is it bright where you are
Have the people changed
Does it make you happy you're so strange
And in your darkest hour, I hold secret's flame
You can watch the world devoured in its pain
Strange

Climb my ribcage to
The replays run for you
Unhook my lights to peek behind the flash
For I am crystal chrome
I am shatter dome
I am Kremlin king of angels avenged
To destroy the end

Is it bright where you are
Have the people changed
Does it make you happy you're so strange
And in your darkest hour, I hold secret's flame
You can watch the world devoured in its pain

The zeppelins rain upon us
The guns of love disastrous
A shadow lies amongst you
To defy the future cast

Is it bright where you are
Have the people changed
Does it make you happy you're so strange
And in your darkest hour, I hold secret's flame
You can watch the world devoured in its pain
Strange
Strange


What is explicit about this?
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FaceMan
Posts: 1125
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Try listening to it backwards if you dare.
Raven
Posts: 3707
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Try listening to it backwards if you dare.

Why? Will it reveal the truth about the moon landings?
The GuVna
Posts: 924
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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quite explicit
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16557
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Im guessing they banned that song because it makes no f***ing sense whatsoever
Spook
Posts: 25360
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
maybe thay banned it because its a horrible song?
Insom
Posts: 2975
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
my guess is that they only label entire albums as explicit/clean, that song just got caught up in it
Hyperslide
Posts: 192
Location: Melbourne, Victoria

meh its itunes ...expect nothing less ...sorry to bag it for all the apple fans.
While the hardware is great Itunes is just .....
Reverend Evil™
Posts: 16558
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Hmm

I just searched for it on youtube and the version I heard doesn't match the lyrics posted here

EDIT: Ah, I see there's two versions. Actually didn't mind the original one. Sounded damn cool.

last edited by Reverend Evil™ at 09:02:11 18/Jun/09
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27172
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Sometimes the explicit warning stuff is managed by the label or some other third party, and sometimes songs are misclassified as explicit.

This isn't censorship and it's wrong to label it as such because it dilutes the meaning of the word and makes it less clear when real, actual censorship takes place.
crazymorton
Posts: 755
Location: Gladstone, Queensland
busy day guvna?
whoop
Posts: 14091
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I've seen clean/explicit warnings on songs by The Corrs. I've come to the conclusion whoever runs the iTunes store is an idiot.
kappa
Posts: 1112
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That song reminds me of the old Batman movies. Well that and Seal.
The GuVna
Posts: 925
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yep spent all day typing that, didn't use the first backwards words web page link off google search at all.
natslovR
Posts: 6199
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
Explicit on music is like an R rating on a thriller - it's advertising.

What was the last G rated thriller you saw? Or M rated porn?
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 2581
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You're right, Trog. Using the word 'censorship' was going too far, and I apologise unreservedly. I should have said 'classification' or something. For what it's worth, I was drunk when I posted this thread (weee, drunk on the internets!).
trog
AGN Admin
Posts: 27189
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Don't apologise to me.. .apologise to all the people that died because of what you wrote here. their blood is on your hands
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