It's out! The full change log is now available - here's a snippet looking at the major changes

Sniper:

* Added new sniper rifle replacement, The Huntsman. Instead of a sniper rifle, you have a bow that allows you to move around faster while firing, and fire more quickly than the sniper rifle. Works better at medium range than the standard rifle
* Added new SMG replacement, Jarate. If thrown on an enemy they will take more damage for short period of time. Also extinguishes flames on yourself or allies
* Added new SMG replacement, The Razorback. Will protect you against a single spy backstab, and stun the spy for a short period of time. Comes with a 15% move speed penalty for the wearer
* Standard sniper rifle now shoots through friendly players
* Added 54 new Sniper voice lines
* Added 35 new Sniper achievements

Spy:

* Added new revolver replacement, The Ambassador. First shot is very accurate and will cause a critical hit if it hits an enemy's head. Accuracy is poor for a period after that
* Added new watch replacement, the Dead Ringer. When armed, you will appear in all ways to die to the first damage you take from an enemy. You'll be cloaked for 8 second after taking this damage. Upon de-cloaking you'll make a loud, distinct sound
Added new watch replacement, the Cloak and Dagger. Your cloak meter is only depleted when you move, so you can stay invisible indefinitely if you're standing still
* Added 70 new Spy voice lines
* Added 34 new Spy achievements

There's a massive stack of other changes, so check the full list for the details. Bounce Steam, update, enjoy.

BAM!

Time to hammer out this assignment quickly.

Then payload race time!!!!

yeh cant wait will be playin tonight...

add me on steam _TiT_

no sniper melee replacement? lame :(

* Standard sniper rifle now shoots through friendly players

:O!

Missed that.

Very good news, makes the sniper much more powerful on 24-32 player servers.

* Standard sniper rifle now shoots through friendly players

:O!

Missed that.

Very good news, makes the sniper much more powerful on 24-32 player servers.

that sort of s*** is exactly the reason I don't play TF2; its so newbed up I can't just can't it seriously.

Yeah that's f***ed, I loved standing infront of team mate snipers and they'd be like "boo hoo I can't shoot because of that a****** soldier" and then I'd be like "wtf are you complaining about? look.. my rockets go right through team mates, no problem!" ehehe. Oh well at least you can still crouch at the snipers feet and give him the s***s that way.

that sort of s*** is exactly the reason I don't play TF2; its so newbed up I can't just can't it seriously.

What?

Teammates always seem to walk directly in front of perfect headshots.

It's a good fix, just like Smokers fix in L4D being able to tounge through common infected.

TF2 is not meant to be taken seriously trog, it's one of those mindless games when you just wanna mess around with stupid s***.

How many achievements do you need to get the first weapon on sniper? Isn't it 10 (11 if you could the achievement for getting 10 achievements)?

I was laughing so hard in that spy update list. He is so imbalanced now it's frankly quite hilarious.

The new sniper deaths are pretty cool to watch. and dispensers giving more than max ammo is a great idea.

So, apparently some people are getting weapon unlocks without achievements.

I have no idea how, but I was dominating 6 people, got a fair few achievements for spy and sniper, and at the top of the game, so it's definitely not a points/domination/achievement thing.

Some people were saying you picked them up?

The backstab is quicker now too, it seems to prime itself when you're behind someone even with your cloak on.

it seems to prime itself when you're behind someone

The trick is to stab them before that animation comes up.

been playing for afair bit this arvo/tonight and not 1 weapon has dropped

Same, I played for 3 hours, not one weapon new or old. Meanwhile I'm getting arrows and piss thrown at me.

I got natascha again, f***ing useless whore she is.

nothing useful :(

How did you get it frakture? did you see it? does it get stored in your inventory?

got 2 sandmans and 2 natasha. boo

Haha so everything is f***ed. That's awesome.

It just randomly came up after I died one time.

It's a bit messed up, I hope they put some things back to the way they were or at least improve them in the next patch:
1. You now find new and old items as you play, instead of through achievements
^^ Crap, so basically being rewarded with unlocks is random. Nice going.
2. Spy disguise and weapon UI doesn't show up in mini mode anymore. I'll have to switch to full hud to get disguise notifications. (with disguises quick bound to keys 1-7 it's helpful to just hit one quickly and then read what you were disguised as)

Also, scoreboard changes, it's hard to tell whos's what and who's dead nowadays due to: 'Dead players draw slightly darker in scoreboard' & 'Converted class labels to class icons'

Yeah this patch is pretty bad imo. I "Unlocked" 5 weapons i already had ffs. But i got lucky and got the cloak and dagger which is so f***in awesome.

I'm also disappointed with the unlock method.

Nothing is more frustrating then seeing other people get something, then finally when it is your turn BAM! your given a fkn Sandvich or something.

Wait I don't get it, you have to unlock the item and then find it to use it? Or just simply find it?

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2535

"That new system watches the amount of time that players are playing TF2, and gives them a chance to find items at regular intervals."

They've turned it into some weird RPG-FPS.

What the jesus:Some of the next things we have planned are:

- Item trading. This is why you're finding duplicates.

- Giving players a method to influence the system so they can work directly toward getting specific items.

- Adding more rare items like the hats.

lvl 6 heavy lfg!
wtb empty jarate jars!

Actually after playing for a bit and getting the ambassador, it's not so bad. If only they had implemented the trading system with it at the same time. At the moment it's pure s*** because you'll get 10 items you already have and 1 you don't have and you can't trade it with others.

Pipeline is officially the greatest map ever, for any game.

Valve have really outdone themselves!

Also, scoreboard changes, it's hard to tell whos's what and who's dead nowadays due to: 'Dead players draw slightly darker in scoreboard' & 'Converted class labels to class icons'

Complete and utter s***, looks crap and as you said makes identifying s*** off the board harder.

Surely there's an option to change it back?

last edited by CHUB at 11:51:05 23/May/09

bah got the update this morning now when i try to connect to servers it says server is enforcing particles\water_dx80.pcf and disconnects :/

edit: guess ga servers havent been updated. others servers work fine

last edited by ravn0s at 12:39:54 23/May/09

hacker

Actually after playing for a bit and getting the ambassador, it's not so bad. If only they had implemented the trading system with it at the same time.

guess you have been lucky, 9.1 hours and not one drop yet, old or new.

I picked up 2 new ones I had'n't had in 2 hours of play, with that alone I've caused 3 ragequits by informing fellow players of that.

I just want the hats

gonna sell the hats for money.

I've played like 10 hours since the update came out, and so far all I've got Ambassador (and I only JUST got that on the last map I played). It's retarded, with all of the spy achievements I've earned so far, I'd be on my way to the third milestone by now.

theres been a couple of updates since its been out. hopefully theyll tune it up pretty quickly

- Item trading. This is why you're finding duplicates.

- Giving players a method to influence the system so they can work directly toward getting specific items.

- Adding more rare items like the hats.

World of TeamFortess?!?!
Way to turn a good game into pure s***.

World of TeamFortess?!?!
Way to turn a good game into pure s***.

Yeah, f*** off Valve.

It's a FPS, we want to kill people.

i cant tell if you're being serious chub :/

I'm serious, get that s*** out of the game.

Played a couple more hours this morning... then got the Bonk drink again :S

I have 800+ hours in TF2, how much longer do I have to play to get new unlocks? :S

I prefer the old unlock method, even if the made it so you couldn't get multiple of the same weapons through random unlocks it would be better.

I possibly wouldn't mind random unlocks if it only gave you what you didn't have.

This trading system though (from reading TF2 forums), seems like it's setup so no matter how long you play, you won't get all the unlocks.

You will need to trade.

Which is hilarious because the trading system isn't implemented yet!

Hence the frustration :S

Trading....
Level X item...

Lame.

Played for awhile and got a few unlocks that I already have.... back to not playing TF2 for another few months, GG to valve for messing it all up.

lol most of the ga servers are empty because they havent been updated.

Fixed cloaked Spies being able to taunt attack

awww.. that was the most fun part of the update!

Taunt killing engineers and their buildings while invisible ftw.

bah got the update this morning now when i try to connect to servers it says server is enforcing particles\water_dx80.pcf and disconnects :/

I renamed ClientRegistry.blob to cClientRegistry.blob, and forced a 'verify integrety' check. that seems to have fixed it here.

as someone said, there's been a couple of updates since - could be related.

3rd party maps show water as bright florecent pink now :/

lol most of the ga servers are empty because they havent been updated.

you'd think the server would auto-update like the client.

meh

you'd think the server would auto-update like the client.

Server console need to be killed in order to perform an update.

And the updates come out randomly (No patch Tuesday here)

Just got my 3rd Axtinguisher. What a load of s***.

I got an item (Flare gun :S), in spec mode.

Didn't even do anything.

Just awarded me an unlock that I already have.

Retarded.

I wonder what they were thinking. Valve weird me out cos they can be so f***ing awesome but can also be simply spastic.

i got cloak and dagger while speccing, actually, im speccing right now! hopefully will get the jarate soon, looks fun.

Would you be able to just start your own server and sit there to get the weapons?

This is f***ed I can't get anything :/

Seems Gamearena need to install s*** at thier end now cuz anyhting with water in it dosn't work with the new update because of that water.blog error.

f***ing sweet, got another Bonk too. This update had the potential to be the best one yet by a long shot, but they f***ed it. :(

Would you be able to just start your own server and sit there to get the weapons?

yes

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=871697

GODDAMNIT



I've played for a total of about 5 hours, and haven't gotten a single f***ing unlock.


I want the jar already :(

had my own server going for about 3 hrs lastnight. didnt get anything

I've played for a few hours over the weekend, got fairly lucky. Got a handful of old unlocks, 2 Huntsman, Ambassador, and the Cloak and Dagger.

The Huntsman is pretty fun to use, you can kill so many people just by aiming at corners. But in terms of standing far back and sniping, the rifle is much better.

The payload race mode is pretty fun, If only they released another map with it.

The updates pretty cool cause ppl just get there weapons in like 30 mins cause they go in an achivment server so it acually makes em play i think its a good idea considering i accidently deleted my sandman and i got it bak . same with 3 uber saws and 2 sanviches its just kinda s*** that u can also get old ones like u know
if u have all the weapons on other ones it should let u get old ones

god damn these free weekenders, sometimes I feel like I am the only one playing.

I spawn with like 2 or 3 blokes, and by the time I'm at at the front line they've all wandered off somewhere.

last edited by thermite at 11:47:57 24/May/09

The updates pretty cool cause ppl just get there weapons in like 30 mins cause they go in an achivment server

actually instead of people grinding achievements, all they are doing is joining servers with no idle kick and leaving the game running while they do something else.

I still don't understand what the go with this s*** is? So randomly the weapons will be given to you permanently? Or do they reset every time you play?

Sounds s***.

Definitely Thermite.

One guy thought I was a spy yesterday, followed me for ~90 seconds, putting shot after shot into me... then when I got to there base (was going backway, he followed me the entire time), he gave me away within seconds (still shooting me).

He wasn't a griefer, just a f***ing nub.

I still don't understand what the go with this s*** is? So randomly the weapons will be given to you permanently? Or do they reset every time you play?

Sounds s***.

Sort of random, partially based on time. Majority of people get them at certain time intervals, but some don't, Valve made it this way.

Yes they're permanent.

last edited by CHUB at 11:51:34 24/May/09

this thread is a waterfall of tears

I left my game running overnight spectating in an achievement server woke up and had gotten the flare gun, which i already had, cloak and dagger which i already had and the ambassador which i already had.

The only new thing i've got is the ambassador, which seems pretty s***.

The only new thing i've got is the ambassador, which seems pretty s***.

what?? thats pretty much all ive seen spies using because its so op

OP? i must be using it wrong

rav: yesterday it was bugged, today the fixed it and it doesn't do s*** all.

what did they do to it?

just got dead ringer and kritz again :/

It's useless even if it did work. Just gives you a critical shot if you hit the head, but after the first shot it gets a lot less accurate. I thought it's going to be like a minisniper.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6817/e9a8f1a6a7e2535f76abe0c.jpg

last edited by reload! at 18:39:49 24/May/09

Aw 88.198.6.169:27017 is down :(

I'd pay those guys a grand to find out how they did that



last edited by koopz at 17:39:47 24/May/09

We realised our idea was retarded, but instead of changing it or even implementing it properly, we're going to do what Korean MMORPG's due and make you idle to boost player numbers.

err... you know you can have every weapon and every unlock in 20 seconds if you're an admin don't you?



I'd post how they do it but I still can't nut the s*** out :/

I have a radical idea - how about Valve just unlock all of the weapons for everyone that's bought the game (not free weekenders)?

They could then make a web site that lets people pay $29.99 to buy some stupid rare hat drops that nobody wanted in the first place.


last edited by Dazhel at 00:07:06 25/May/09

im loving this unlock system. 3 dead ringers!!

whinging helps. I have 2 out of 3 unlocks for both spy and sniper now.

what the hell does the hat do?

Nothing, you just wear it.

I got the soldier hat (helmet), has a pack of ciggies and a playing card (ace?) stuck in it.

I got the Demoman fro while spectating yesterday. Sure, that was cool, but it doesn't quite make up for the 4 Axtinguishers, 2 Natacshas, 3 Bonks, 3 KGBs, 2 Sandviches, 3 flare guns, 2 ubersaws, and 2 Sandmans that I now have.

Give me my f***ing Spy watches!

i'll trade you the hat for both spy watches....oh wait valve haven't implemented that yet

i've got the spy watch.

never play spy

want uber saw, and natascha.

also, i hope all you spectating bastards die in a fiery hell!

logged onto the node 32player server, and half of the people were speccing. same for the 2fort server.

this is s*** as. I just like to have a game now and then and i want all the weaps - i dont want to have to play 100 hours to get them. and it just makes me want to play even less when i cant use the cool new stuff that everyone else has.

imo sniper with piss jar + hunter bow will dominate

yeah I've totally been put off playing knowing that if things were normal and the rewards were based on my efforts I'd have 2 spy unlocks now, but instead I have none, and people who idle and play like crap but have a lot of time get all the weapons.

i would have preferred they waited until they had the trading system done before giving us this update.

also, i hope all you spectating bastards die in a fiery hell!

Haha, I left mine open on a server today too. Won't say which one so boba doesn't kick me like a c***.

Haha, I left mine open on a server today too. Won't say which one so boba doesn't kick me like a c***.

I do believe someone is looking into a mod to kick afk spectators =P

Are they stupid? Just make your own and idle in that, left mine running last night now i have every unlock in the game

tried playing on a 24 player server with 17 people spectating?

Make me unkickable!

Are they stupid? Just make your own and idle in that, left mine running last night now i have every unlock in the game

If I hosted my own server it would keep losing connection to Steam/Steam Cloud so I didn't want to risk wasting 9hrs.

last edited by reso at 11:09:26 25/May/09

Damnit, all that "playing" and all I got was another pair of gloves.

You didnt want to risk wasting 9 hours when you wouldnt be playing anyway? :)

And risk the chance of missing out on getting s***ty dupes? NO WAY!!!!!!

I'm surprised TF2 doesn't have a call vote option.

Are they stupid? Just make your own and idle in that, left mine running last night now i have every unlock in the game

I scored a good tip from someone that's worked for unlocks:

play the classes that you use the least. I got 4 weapon unlocks in an hour while mucking around in a couple of Surf maps, and not really killing anyone :/

talk about random...







last edited by koopz at 19:36:50 25/May/09

Or you could do this:

Just play the game and let the new weapons come to you. Stop stressing over it and stop saying that by now if the old system was in place you would have every item because the current achievements are much easier the the previous ones.

http://upshizzle.com/gallery/albums/October_2008/17Untitled.jpg

This is f***ing stupid. I had all the previous unlocks before this patch too.

Oh sweet, Just got another ambassador !

Haha, mine looks pretty similar, except replace all those watches and flare guns with heavy boxing gloves (Oh and I don't have any new unlocks except for the razorback).

:~(~~~~~

last edited by reso at 10:51:18 26/May/09

just use the weapon unlocker and stop your tears

ive gotten the pyro hat. it's a little twirly thing. kinda goofy.

just use the weapon unlocker and stop your tears

Nice try, but that doesn't work anymore.

Whats the point in having multiple flare guns or whatever?

RIP TF2

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/549/85309149.jpg

Somehow i have 4 Hunstman...

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4535/79880527.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/633/45067318.jpg

The funny thing is, you guys are only complaining about the fact that you aren't getting unlocks, or you're getting too many.

The unlockables you use are like 1/10th of TF2. It's a $20 game, stop whinging , and play.

ctd for trading.

which hasnt been implemented yet. The demo one is awesome, its this little afro.

p.s i still think (agree) that pyro = scouts mum

last edited by greazy at 15:15:56 26/May/09

But I really want all the hats! :)

I just want the feign death :(

I GOT THE BOW, IT'S s***.

Just got my 3rd Kritzkreig

Along with the hat unlocks, there will be other items of clothing coming in the near future.

This is a leak of the sniper outfit:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6301/884d62b06780bd994b08917.png

f***ing lol @ the sscreenshots of a surf map itt

Why yes i play surf maps~

qmass that looks like a crappy reskin

i was hoping valve had posted today saying how bad they f***ed up and this is what they are doing to fix it.