This story on news.com.au tells the sad tale of a bus full of Islamic children in Brisbane had stones and bottles thrown at it this morning. Its quite amazing to see how far the impact of the disaster has spread, and it is terrible to see this sort of negative attitude and racism so close to home. I'd again like to reiterate that racist comments on any AusGamers forums or hosted sites will not be tolerated and would like to think that most of the gamers out there would never be involved in anything like this.

Beating up on school kids will achieve nothing ffs - I hate stupid people.

unfortunately, stupid people are unavoidable.. there are always a few of them. you cant escape them.

Most of the rednecks were already pretty pissed off at the muslims about those rapings in sydney, like threats to burn down their temples and stuff, this will only add to it.

Islamic students who were cheering as television images of the plane crashes played at a Queensland university library yesterday.

IM not a racist person ( normally) but I say hit the f*****s, tahts just blatently wrong, if they want to live here, then they shouldnt be cheering s*** like this, its f***ed up

at least beat the ones that think its a good thing

man i reckon
they come live here, then think they are still islamic. what a joke.

-Eds-: agreed

You can't deny some ones religion/ancestry, but yes, cheering etc is just wrong, every dog has their day I suppose.

Some of the things said on talkback radio have been unbelievable. :(

Would you cheer if the big, bad, boogie-man Saddam Hussein was bombed/assassinated?

I know I wouldn't be, but I bet if it happened there would be some people on here cheering the fact.

I don't condone people cheering on acts of slaughter, but neither do I condone people attacking another group of people based on their ethnicity.

Nobody up to this point has any proof of who organised/committed the terrorist acts in America on 9/11, so people should stop acting in such a knee-jerk, or just plain jerk, manner.

Yeh, its wrong from both sides :(

what good comes from hitting them
you should ignore them

if they break the law, let the law deal with them

i understand that jim, but you have to understand where those ppl are coming from.

What happens if someone they know was in the tower?

the fact that they dont have proof makes it even worse.
as if you would cheer the death of anybody. i definatly dont think anyone would be cheering if some crazy american crashed a plane and killed 10000 afghani's. these people that cheer should be shipped back to their f***ed up country, where they can sing and dance all day long.

People like tat are just f*****s

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Ad,

Are you seriously suggesting that when America retaliates Americans won't cheer?

They cheered when fleeing conscripted soldiers were carpet bombed in their thousands at the end of the gulf war. So why not this time around?

I know non-Islamic Australians that are avid American haters. Like many other people they feel that America is the cause of an awful lot of injustice and suffering in the world. Hearing of the terror being taken back to the USA will have at least brought a smile to their face, until the level of human suffering caused dawned on them.

Go have a read of this article. It starts with the following quote from Amnesty International:

"Throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman, or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed, or 'disappeared', at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame."
-- Amnesty International, 1996

Australia isn't an actively christian country. I don't know about you but i haven't been to church since i was given the choice, i don't say grace before meals, pray nightly or ask my god to forgive my sins. Expecting muslims to convert to a religion very few Australians even actively practice is just stupid! They have their own faith, let them be. Australia is multi-racial and multi-cultural. Let's not change that as it's what's so great about living here - diversity!

The problem is that these people came to live in our country where we have a normal day to day life that they should try to adhere to. Instead they come in thinking that we should change to be like them and thats when all the problems start.

it's the thinking that doing something physical to someone as a punishment is the right thing to do, that causes such acts in the first place

doesn't matter whether they know someone in the buildings or not

yeti, that is not where the problems start - the problems in question start when people make the decision to physically assault another person

yes, now americans would cheer, as it would be just revenge. but if it were to happen previous to this attack, by, say an american terrorist, there wouldnt be any cheering.

maybe not change there religion, but to show some f***ing respect, and YES, america will cheer if and when those f***ers get shot in the head, I will cheer, because what they did was not kill soldiers, which is tragic enough, but they killed innocent women children and men, they started this s*** storm, and they WILL get whats coming to them.

I think that ppl that smile about this are sick f***ing monsters, and as far as im concerned, are no better then the ppl responsible for this.

Lets face it... If saddam was slaughtered it 'could' be justified, but the destruction of 10,000+ innocent ppl cannot.

Those that cheer deserve to have bottles thrown at them. The people that died in NY and Washington weren't the cause of their problems. So what have they achieved?

And tothrow bottles at islamic children is pathetic. Because they are Islamic, does not mean that the condone what has been done. It should be frowned upon much the same as the harrassment of protestant and catholic school children in Belfast that we witnessed recently.

I always remember a story my mother told me. She was sitting on the beach with her parents when she was about 11 years old. Just near her was this wog family eating this strange warm food out of some sorted of 'keep warm' hamper.

Being a good christian Australian girl she'd never seen food like that which these wogs ate. What was Australia coming to?

Yeah where would Australia be now without Italian and Greek food. I cook pasta every second night. Eat pizza twice a week. And lasagne!!! Are you seriously saying people shouldn't bring their cultures with them when the move here, and should completely convert to a meat and 3 veg Australian lifestyle? I hope you are f***ing kidding. I could not imagine anything more bland and boring than a multi-cultural Australia that was lacking all the wide and varied culture and I haven't even mentioned scumptious Thai food and their friendly and helpful life styles! And that's just the food they bring!

eds, are you assuming that this attack on the US was unprovoked? how can you possibly know who started it?

and cardguard, anyone who suggests that physical retaliation should ever be used is incredibly short-sighted

I know non-Islamic Australians that are avid American haters.

well as IF you would hate anybody. that is just totally stupid. and hating american people.. that is even more racist. hating someone because of the country that they live in, and because of their government.

Hearing of the terror being taken back to the USA will have at least brought a smile to their face

o dear. smiling?? over poor innocent people killed.
well that, by itself is just pathetic. they will just hate the entire of the usa, instead of the leaders that may have caused their country problems in the first place. and if they are so patriotic why dont they just head on back to their country.

and Ad, mebbe thats because the Americans do not feel that they are being repressed.

The PM of Lebanon last night urged ppl to realise that what has occured in NY and Wash. is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of everything that Islamic and Muslim people have EVER believed. He noted that Islamic and Muslim fundamentalism is far different to Radical Islamic and Muslim fundamentalism.

The people who have done this can be identified as rebel groups, not religious groups or national belonging.

they are allowed to bring their cultures. they should just at least try to assimilate. and if that involves keeping their mouths SHUT, when something happens that they agree with, and we dont, then so be it.

im not saying it wasnt unprovoked, but i cant see anything justifieing s*** like this, and natslvr, im not saying drop their cultiures, im saying show some respect for the country your living ins culture, which i beleive for us, is not to fly planes in to buildings and slaughter inocent ppl, i mean, you say about attaking a bus of students, is pathetic, so is killing 3 year olds by flying a plane into the building their in.

The action they have taken is inexusable, and if i see anyone in the street cheering or smiling about it, ill take a lump of metal or something and f*** them up, becuase thats just WRONG.

What you have to relize is that it just doesnt effect america, it effects the whole world, we have lost ppl over there, doing a f***ing TOUR ffs, they have done nothing wrong, many differant nationalitys were killed, our stockmarket is f***ed.

what im saying is, is that if they want to live here, by all means have a culture, but when australians and australia allies who are INNOCENT DIE, then show some f***ing respect and dont be cheering, also , it was a high school bus that was attacked, and on it where teenages that cheered when they saw americans and australians DIE, if i had known , i would be right up front tryting to hit one of those bastards with something as well.

anyone who suggests that physical retaliation should ever be used is incredibly short-sighted

anyone that suggests physical retaliation should never be used is wrong

Yeah bit harsh but i frown upon it. I wouldnt throw a bottle, but I would have my views known to them.

then why if they are so against this kind of destruction, do they crack a grin when they hear about it on the tv. total hypocrites.

Eds no islamic ppl in australia have flown planes into our buildings which suggests that mebbe they do respect that.

Not all were cracking grins... And like I said that was the Lebanese PM. its wrong to assume that they are all glad it has happened.

The action they have taken is inexusable, and if i see anyone in the street cheering or smiling about it, ill take a lump of metal or something and f*** them up, becuase thats just WRONG.

Why would you f*** them up?

i agree 100% with trog, except i just get f***in pisses when ppl come to this nice land and start rasical gangs and all that f***ed up s***

Ad + edz: you are just completely stupid.

Millions of ppl in the middle east have died due to America... Just because CNN or NBC or CBS didnt cover the carnage there doesnt mean it didnt happen.

For people who's families have been completely destroyed by America, would be cheering at this. I know I would. If an enemy of mine get's hurt, i cheer, simple as that.

In my opinion, America had this coming. If they got the stupid asses out of the Middle-East, and mind their own business, this s*** would have never happened.

Due to the power hungry Americans, so many millions of poor innocent people are dying (that includes their own people).

Muslims didnt attack, non-muslims did. Anyone person who has killed another person is NOT a muslim.

I'm not saying that this attack was good, this attack makes the Middle-East just as bad as the Americans.

No one has a right to play god and end anyone's life.

If you look at both sides of the story (not just wot CNN are feeding you) you would realise how bad it has been for the Middle-Eastern people.

btw, there is only a real small minority that was cheering, the rest of the population held vigils for the lost civilians.

Ads: who the f*** made this country a 'non-islamic' country? YOU have no right to say that Islam is not allowed here. NO one has the right to say that this country belongs to a certain race of people.

In my opinion, if America starts bombing the Middle-East (YET AGAIN), killing more innocent people, then they are FAR worse than that group of terrorists who attack NY.

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Good to see Ausgamers taking this stance against racism..

To bad they don't take it on putting down gay people as well.....

An offical Ausgamer page makes comments like "If you act like a homo you will be punished etc etc blah blah.."

A few of my friends have seen it, and have written letters to Telstra about it..After all looks pretty bad for them, when a page with statments like that on it (and no its not a forum page) says at the bottom "In association with Telstra"

In my opinion, if America starts bombing the Middle-East (YET AGAIN), killing more innocent people, then they are FAR worse than that group of terrorists who attack NY.

thanks for removing any doubt that you are not stupid

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stfu faget

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you sound completly irrational

haha, beaner is a homo

An offical Ausgamer page makes comments like "If you act like a homo you will be punished etc etc blah blah.."

as f***ing if it says anything like that

Come - on, thats just W***G.

someone put political incorrectness on the forum rules

Americans will cheer if they kill Arabs, you watch and see...

I agree with what's been said before is that if muslims want to live in Australia legally, they should at least act like Australians - otherwise, what's the point in coming here? Stay over there if you want that way of life.

Eds you are such a terry toughnuts!

terry has nuts?

Goa'uld: wot is an australian supposed to act like? a christian dude? a non-religious person?

*sigh* grow a fukn brain mate... Who are u to make judgements on how people should look or behave? Why dont you act like you have ur own culture isntead of copying wotever America is doing u unoriginal mofo.

Are the muslims hurting YOU in anyway by practising their religion? I dont think so... This is a free country, and that's wot makes this country great. We don't need useless judgemental fagets like yourself in this country.

That taliban group is not a bunch of muslims, they claim to be, but they arent. They're just a group of sk's with too much spare time and money.

ffs, you dumb kunts say "arabs are uneducated that's y they're f***ed up". By these comments posted here by Ad, Edz, and Goa'uld, it shows that arabs ARENT the only dumb kunts around.

fukn rednecks.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/09/12/mideast.reaction/

read that..

Only ONE country town in Palestine cheered.. ie the dumb uneducated redneck arabs.

The media has made it into something huge.. "all palestinians are cheering out in the streets" pfffffffffffffft.. wot a load of f***ing s***...

In my opinion, anyone who cheers at America's retaliation (except for the families who were destroyed), is a complete moron with no fukn dick.

u stole this country from the abo's

that sounds a little racist

well some arabs have done good stuff like Khaled mardem-bey (sp?)

Stole? EXCUSE me you f***ing idiot but WE did NOT steal this country. Go read a few history books before you start accusing anyone of such crimes you moron. Rather than go into details about the attitudes of that time I will tell you right now that the convicts who landed here WEREN'T HERE BY CHOICE. And those who came here to settle came here in peace. In fact you will find quite a lot of white people were sympathetic towards aboriginals. One such man is Tom Petrie. Go read about him idiot.

I can't believe you just said that WE f***ING STOLE Australia. GET A CLUE. Where do you come from EH? I notice you say "u stole" but you don't make any mention of where the f*** you are from mate. Don't you DARE accuse us of such things.

here here hunter

Let it be known I don't have any problems with Aboriginals myself, nor do I have problems with people from any country. HOWEVER when they do things like this, my tolerance wears VERY thin.

Stole is quite a strong word, I apologise (I was annoyed at that other dudes post), but the point I was trying to make is that this country belongs to EVERYONE who lives here, no one has a right to say 'That person is practising his/her religion! go back to your own country!'. That's just not fair. Children being attacked by people pissed off with terrorists, that's f***ing crazy.

And I'm as Australian as anyone else.

the multiculturalism in australia is an excellent thing we have going, but there are certain races that f*** it up for everyone.
The lebanese rape our women, and purposely beat up australians in the city (i have seen MANY of my mates beaten up by lebo's).

Now, why cant some of these islamic nations behave more like the italians? The italians f***ing rool! They are a very affectionate people, and their food is just f***ing great! they also merge into a society very well, and take the best parts of their own culture with them.
Unlike the islamics, who dont respect anyone else (which is what their religion is all about, respect), they dont converge with any other races other than their own, and they frequently make EVERY other race feel like a minority. Try living in Altona, its a f***ing s***hole because of all the lebanese people that live there!

I am not racist, but i do beleive that when a minority group migrates into another country, yes, they should take parts of their culture with them, but they should also embrace their new country, instead of complaining about it, and not incorporating ANY of their surrounding culture.

Muslims didnt attack, non-muslims did. Anyone person who has killed another person is NOT a muslim.

Oh don't use that excuse I've herd the same thing from christians and it's just a lame excuse. The fact is that warped versions of the muslims ideals fuel these terroists. Just as warped versons of the christian ideals fueled the crusades, witch burnnings, etc.
In conclusion religion BAD!

Well said Hunter.

If you're going to accuse the first 'white Australians' of "stealing" this country, then I'd suggest you go and read a few more history books and find out about peoples like the American Indians, the Jamaicans, the Indians etc, etc

What would you have them do? Stay on a tiny little island forever so that even today we'd have abbos running around Australia with spears and bark huts? Good werk...

As if America deserves anywhere near as much s*** as they cop :\

OK - I really have been trying to keep back my feelings about this all, but frankly I think this situation can bring the worst and best of humanity, but as for the people discussing Australia, SHUT UP.
Australia is a country based on freedom of any person living inside of this country that is a law abiding citizen. I'm so sick of this crap that people believe that if they're originally Australian they get special treatment or people that move here and get citizenship think they're somehow superior. i'm sick of this crap in the world.

As for Religion. Well.. quite frankly, I worship a f***ing toy hamster as a god. Why? because nearly EVERY religion has used holy wars as an excuse to KILL another human.. the only main religion i can think of that hasn't is true buddhists.....
Its completely f***ed and it won't end here. A word to anyone that believes America if it retaliates on the middle east or the route of the troubles.. i have one thing to say. I KNEW SOMEONE ON ONE OF THOSE FLIGHTS.
Its purely barbaric that the hijackers saw what they were doing as a spiritual win, THEY MURDERED COUNTLESS FOR A POINTLESS REASON..

Ok.. maybe if it was a military structure.. and there were a few civilian casualties.. it could be a little better justified.. BUT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER? I don't see any real source of evil eminating from a building in New York... same as I don't see any coming from civilian buildings in Afghanistan etc.

Another thing that REALLY gets to me, is these people celebrating at the DEATHS of fellow humans. People say its cause it was a spiritual win/to show america was vunerable.. i say to those people that they're f***ing gutless arseholes. - maybe they should cut they're own arm nice and deep and see the blood that flows from it is exactly the same as the American blood.

true though i guess.. you cannot deny America has done some bad things, but things are always given a cause to why they happen, or so i thought.. the cause of the MASSIVE loss of life was basically pointless.. apart from reducing the world to anger and a global feeling of such a loss, what happened achieved nothing.. and what do the attackers say? it was a religious win.. its not a terrorism war we're fighting, its a holy war.. and its f***ing stupid.

as to whats happened the past few days, i have one word for it all, disgust... Disgust at why people would do such a thing, disgust that humans use this invisible shield of religion as a reason to MURDER.

I think Sascha Konietzko put it best : "lets stop praying for someone to save us and start saving ourselves"

the act of these holy "saints" was purely gutless and wrong.

no country deserves to have their civilians killed, especially without warning.
at least the us government gave warning of the bombings in the gulf war, and were even TRYING NOT TO SHOOT CIVILIANS, unlike these f***heads (whoever they are), who PURPOSELY killed civ's, and they deserve to pay, and i dont think the us wants to wage war, but i think they dont want anyone to stop them from exacting revenge on those responsible, even if it means going thru an entire populace, they will get their revenge, thats how pig-headed the yanks are.

u stole this country from the abo's

You say that as if the Aboriginals are the only people who've ever been vitimised in history. The fact is that countless races have oppressed other races through history. You don't hear many of them complaining!
I don't know why you're being such a dick as I understand it people in this thread haven't said that people should drop their culture totally (at least the sensible ones) or stop practicing their religion. They have said that they should adjust to our lifestyle and not treat Australia like their homeland.

BTW natslovR I like Meat and 3 veg.

Any c***s who hate muslims, christians, jews, etc... can come worship me.
I won't make you kill anyone, except maybe in DoD or TFC.

Oh and we're going to steal Australia from the Queen and give it to the people. And then we'll take over the planet and make it the best f***en planet ever.

But we won't kill anyone. Just put submliminal messages on the TV and s***.

k thx bi.

ye, like i said, they should adapt slightly, not keep their own lifestyle

nahhhh, goa'uld mate, u got it all wrong! the only way we can 'liberate' this country is to start our own terrorist group called 'The Bringers of The Federation', and go around killing millions of people around the world, just to prove that we have power, and are willing to use it, and that we want our country to not be under a monarchy.
yeah, lets all prove that we are inhuman by grouping together like the f***heads we are, and killing innocent civilians, then we too, like the Tamil Tigers, and other terrorist groups, can give our countries a bad name.

n/b: that was sarcasm!

hahaha, just saw on the news, how all the islamic churches have been dessicrated and s***, yeah, the islams were complaining about how its unsafe for their women to walk the streets, well, now they know how it fukn feels ! its been unsafe for OUR women to walk the streets for fear of being raped by a f***ing lebo!

err..dont be a racist man..at least call them Lebanese if your gonna pay them out

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im not racist

Well maybe not..but at least refer to the Lebanese and Lebanese not 'lebo's' one of my good friends is of lebanese background..saying they all try to rape australian women is wrong..although some do i may admit

yeah, and the Islamic Youth representative was assuming that all australian people try to harass islamic women in the streets.

What gives you people the right to say who should die based on their actions??? NO ONE - YOU DONT HAVE THAT RIGHT!!!

So all you people who are saying lets kill those that are cheering - grow a sense of rational!!!! - sure their fuct in the head, but let them be, until they cause trouble they have every right to be here!

That isn't racism - thats irrational idiocy in my eyes!!

Hey Beaner - go back to to goatse.cx where you belong.

yeah, but who really gives a f*** wot WE think, its up to wot this war-hungry f***er of a president wants, and if he's anything like his father, itll be BLOODSHED!

Sometimes it DOES take violence to solve problems, but not usually. Some ppl are just too stupid / fanatical to respond to anything else.

unleaded u fukt up this table!

argh!!
someone broke the forums
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f*** man
Not closing a would NOT skew the table @ All.

It all started with you picturs of women.
copying code from frontpage again are we?

no, joo dope, it was ok, and had fukt up before i changed my sig

LMAO!
Some how a pic of that chick has managed to find it's way up with the QGL logo..

hmmm.

yayyyy, holly shall ruuuule the wooorld!

The sad fact is that the president and all the other 'politicans' have to resort to bloodshed.

I mean if BUSH was to end this problem calmnly with no nuking etc - he'd be basically commiting professional suicide.

Do what satisfys the people in the short term.
You see this again and again.

that pic's probably going to get a nuking

nuked it lyself

NrKy - you are one sick f***!
Or whoever posted that image.

Some of you f***ers play CS too much, I think it's warped your rather limited brains.

The QGL forums have hit an unprecidented low.

ohh and btw it's bin laden not ben laden.

fuk sake...

the lebanese arent the only kunts in the entire world that rape women...

grow a f***ing brain u sk ffs

i didnt amke it, i found it

"yeah, and the Islamic Youth representative was assuming that all australian people try to harass islamic women in the streets." -nrky

yeh.. just coz a few leb guys raped a few girls doesnt mean the whole f***ing entire population of lebs and arabs rape women...

omfg u guys are such hypocrits

yeah it's bad taste.

and u thought I was a sick f***???

yeah, fhm has an article on hijacking, f***ing tasteless indeed!

omfg u guys are such hypocrits

Talk about the pot calling the kettel black you whinge about us overgenralising and then do it your self ya dick.

gayed up thread

very gayed up

btw that pictures is pretty clever

Forums are gayed up too

the fourm index is fixed now.

woot I reached 400.

Yeah the CS pic is cleaver but I don't think it should be visible on the fourms.

LoL Goa'uld! you clown.

do that again and I'm going to jump on you with my stomping boots

hehe, term, like ur sig image

I love some of the utter hypocrisy being expressed here.

Everyone here is deploring the horrific act of violence perpetrated on the States, no question. Some of us however then follow up with comments about how they would f*** people up (for 'smiling' about the tragedy).

Isn't this type of reaction what has made the world a f***ed-up place to live? If nothing else the US represents the core bastion of democracy. By denying people the right to free speech via threat of violence (no matter how repugnant or ignorant their views are) aren't you little better than the people who condone such terrible acts, and arent you acting counter to the very system you seek to defend?

People complaining about people with Islamic beliefs entering 'THEIR' country. I didn't realise Australia was postmarked as being Christian. That must have come as a nasty suprise to all the buddhist people living here as well, not to mention our Jewish population.

Shouldn't the Aborigines be kicking everyone out now, after all, when this country was invaded in 1788 the invaders didn't follow local custom, nor did they assimilate into the population.

People claiming the US has never killed men, women or children deliberately? Wake up, people like Hussein deliberately place nmilitary targets amongst the populace, and the US doesn't always manage to be that surgical in their strikes. Do you ever think that the US backed Israeli forces also never take innocent lives in revenge of their own innocents slain by the Palestinians?

Morons (naturally Hunter has to come into this) claiming that this country wasn't taken by force. Here's some reading for you, ignoramus, read up on the Mabo decision and research the concept of Terra Nullis. Don't divert this topic with your irrational attention seeking bulls***.

Gang rape? Never happened before the lebanese gangs (most of whom were BORN IN AUSTRALIA LIKE MOST OF YOU) perpetrated them, did they? Try reading about Anita Cobby, well the details that have not been supressed from the HORROR. Fine young aussie blokes did that. I guess all aussie blokes are animals then.

Where do people get off thinking that they have some divine right to be outraged and aggreived? The Koran hardly tells people to go out and destroy people in their multitudes any more than the bible. Get some perspective. Believe it or not, not every person in the world who isn't from a western country wants blood running in the streets.

PS Beaner, you've proved that you're nothing by low life scum to even try putting your petty SGL bulls*** agenda on such a topic, may you burn in hell you hypocrite.

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Lotsa Nuking going on ....

SBK - In case you're wondering, it's spelt Protestant.

SBK, you're a typical ignorant child.

The world is larger than the borders of your suburb.

Australia isn't YOUR country.

Accept the fact that horrific crimes, like the criminal stupidity that you in your ignorance preaches, can and are committed by more than just one race, colour or creed.

Your comments typify what is wrong with our society, a lot of big mouthed wankers acting like hardc***s who do little to move things forward, and seem determined to make this place go back to its white australia origins.

Get used to it - that Chinese guy talking in Mandarin to his mates has JUST THE SAME f***ING RIGHT to consider it his country as you do yours. How dare you make generalisations about an entire race of people, despite what protestations you reply with I BET you don't know too many Lebs. Just like your typical white aussies, there are decent normal hardworking people with pride in being Australian amongst them - sadly, as you demonstrate, there's also bound to eb a healthy supply of ignorant animals in their community also.

If you don't like Australia and what we stand for then f***ing leave - stop bitching about the composition of our population, because whether you like it or not, and whether you understand it or not, "Australia" os more than just you and Paul f***in Hogan mate, so get used to it.

Get some national pride indeed, you pitiful ignorant fool.

If you fight fire with fire you're gonna get burnt.

If America retailiates they are gonna get it back twice as bad. If you beat up a muslim boy for smiling, you're no better then then the a******s who killed thousands of innocent americans.

Why? Because its all based around Hatred. Hatred is what makes his world so terrible, because people decide that they hate people based on pretty stupid things. Differing opinion, different race, different religion, different beliefs. Look at these very forums - people have made sworn enemies based on the difference of opinion. Its even worse when you base this hatred down when you don't even know all the facts... or you dont even know the person.

Think about it - Why do the Iraqi's hate the Americans and vise versa? Because both have adverse ways of life that threaten to break the other one. Both think that theirs is right and are prepared to fight for it. They hate each other so much that they have lost a sense of humanity and value for life of each of their people. Same goes with the Palastinians and the Israelies(sp?), difference of opinion and religious beliefs has pushed them into war - were hundreds of innocent people get gunning down everyday, youths taking to the streets to protect their families.

Our world will continue to be f***ed over more and more until we get over ourselves and stop f***ing hating each other for the pettiest little s***. Because its always the small things that grow to piss us off isnt it?

the whole thing makes me sick..i dont consider myself a racist person but i dont trust a lebanese or arab person and even aboriginal at that as far as i can throw them and that impression has been made due to experience.for example there are some communities in sydney a normal aussie person wouldnt dare to walk down because there is a pretty good chance they would get hasstled or hurt by lebanese or islamic people...in their country it is the women who are raped by the men that are put to shame
everyones entitled to their beliefs and culture etc but u go to their country and build an australian church or school or whatever and see what happens
i believe our country is very tolerant of these people and half their problems here stem from the name they have made for themselves
a friend of a friend sent aid out to the tampa liner where the boat people are and apparanetly they were all cheering about what happened in america
what is this world coming to..

Yeh, I personally don't think I want anyone living in my country if they're going to cheer when innocent people are killed, no matter where the innocent people come from.

lots of people do stupid things - cheering when innocent people are killed is just one of them.

it's wrong, but there's nothing you can rightfully do about it other than try and legally attack the people doing it, or try and avoid people like that altogether.

Jim, I reckon if I attacked YOU, I'd feel better

peace, brother

Hey, take that hippy s*** to another room before you enrage a cartman clone!

I think i'll take this time to say i'm utterly pissed off about some of the crap that people have posted on this topic, on the other hand a lot of good opinions have been shown and i think the general thing thats come outta it all is i think a lotta people are saying things can't be classified by their country (the people that died in the WTC are no different to ones that die in israel or other places, this was just on a much larger scale, either way theres gonna be problems)

Also I think most have said something about is how people consider Australia, frankly I think if we as people can't adjust to the laws and living styles (which lets admit it, are very easily to live by) then people should leave this country. I have no problem with people speaking a different language here, i have no problem with people of different religions here. I DO have a problem with people that cheer at people leaping to their death from the 85th storey of a building, i also have problem with these rapists and murderers, and not all of them are from other countrys that have come here, quite an amount are Australia, still doesn't make it right whoever they are

karmacoma you said: (sorry don't know how to quote)

"Millions of ppl in the middle east have died due to America... Just because CNN or NBC or CBS didnt cover the carnage there doesnt mean it didnt happen.

For people who's families have been completely destroyed by America, would be cheering at this. I know I would. If an enemy of mine get's hurt, i cheer, simple as that. "

I think it's important for people to be able to distinguish between who is an enemy and who is not. I presume it was the US military who perpetrated these acts, and not the average Joe American. If the WTC incident was supposed to be some form of 'revenge', then it was more a blind lash out in anger - an action that resulted in little more than the perpetuation of the murder of uninvolved civilians. The Pentagon on the other hand is something of a different matter (note this is objective analysis).

I don't think it is right to apply such blanket classifications of 'enemy' - the WTC attack killed innocent people. Granted those who cheered may have been justifiably furious, but I've always felt one should try to rise above it, not sink below.

What will the US reaction be? Retribution no doubt. I hope that those in charge are able to keep their heads screwed on, wade through the blazing rhetoric, and not serve to perpetuate this hate and anger further.

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Aren't there 300 Pakistani's missing?

100 from England, 100 from NZ, 90 from Australia...

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Gobo: totally agree with you..

Sacredsperm: Pakistani's are muslims, i reckon there will be over 1000 muslims who died in that (including muslims from other countries)...
So to blame this on 'muslim' ppl is wrong.. you should blame this on 'insane terrorists'.

Ads: Millions of INNOCENT people in the middle east died because of the lack of skill americans had in hitting the CORRECT target...

The pilot of the second plane was the type of skilled pilots they need to get the terrorists.

dude
how about you provide some evidence to back up your argument. you are pulling facts out of your ass. what you reckon doesnt count.

f***ing well said of the previous post karmacoma ! and i would like to add more : usa goverment kill ppl by put sanction in those countries they don't like because of "dictatorship" or "communism" and it only killed innocent ppl not the one they targetted. Look at Iraq, ffs does it hurt Saddamm after 10 years ? how may innocent ppl died in vietnam and cuba after 20 years of sanction ?
For those who cheered with the news were simply cheer for the attack on USA in general sense and they didn't have live tv to see the terrible images of ppl jumped out of windows or children died.

Ads: Millions of INNOCENT people in the middle east died because of the lack of skill americans had in hitting the CORRECT target...

Yeh, I'd like to see some backing up of this particular comment - I find it hard to believe that the Americans killed millions of middle east citizens by missing the target.

Yeah, the sanctions were only for, like, building biological weapons and stuff.

And I doubt its just the USA who put the sanctions on...

And further more, I'd think its more Saddam's fault that he can't feed his people, but then again, weapons *are* expensive :|

*ahem*

karmacoma: you're missing the POINT. i took it as implicit that those people were innocents. the idea i was trying to make is that those killed in WTC were also innocents. i figure that those who cheered the WTC attack obviously condoned it, and if they think it was a blow against their 'enemy' (as you suggested) then i think they need to sit down and have a bit of a f***ing think.

innocent people were killed. their friends may cheer such revenge but the mass murder of MORE innocents on the 'other side' is disgusting. such actions only serve to perpetuate feelings of anger

Trog,

Here's some examples of America missing or miscalculating the target that resulted in immense suffering. Of course, these don't detail resulting deaths but as you can imagine they would have a huge impact on the people that relied on these resources.

The US did retalitory strikes against the Sudan after some bombing of something american somewhere a few years back. They blue up a medicine factory. The owner of the factory was recently (last year or the year before) awarded compensation by the US government to the tune of several million dollars after taking them to court for having his factory blown up, workers killed and loss of his income.

US Missiles destroy baby food factory - When an embargo is in place this not only results in the death of persons present at the site...

That's just two of MANY examples out there.. i'd find more but my work day is now over :-)

Well if the US said that they were going to bomb the place so the workers could get out then they'd get shot down. Anyway it's not as if the US lke bombing inocent people it looks bad for starters.

Might I add what Stormin Norman had to point out.

In desert storm, US often placed their own men at risk to avoid involving civilians, these gutless bastards have deliberately gone out and attacked a a group of buildings knowing that they would be full of people and that it would be rush hour at the time of the strike. Im sure the americans did deserve what they got, just not the ppl that got it. And the americans in most some cases arent involved for power, they are involved because they have the power and countries that are being oppressed by pricks like Saddam in Gulf war need their assistance.

Abo is short for aboriginals, lebo is short for lebanese and homo is short for homosexual just like aussies is short for australians.

Towel heads, coons, f*****s etc are degrading.. dont be confused.

These terrorists arent that religious.. If the WTC is a symbolic hit then it wouldnt need to be full of ppl, they could have done it at night or outside working hours. I agree that the pentagon or white house is/would have been symbolic.

Taking out the WTC would have the same symbolic significance if it were empty when it collapsed. The trade centre was only hit because of the sheer numbers of people it would kill. Otherwise it would have occurred at a time when less ppl would be present. The pricks wanted the cameras to see the second plane hit and they have achieved it. Whoever did this will go down for sure, but I am unsettled when I guess what else might happen when he knows that his days are over.

The thing i dont understand about these fukn ignorant rednecks is how they can go out and bash muslims for no reason...

ffs.. go bash the f***ing terrorists not 'INNOCENT' people. Because by doing this you're JUST as bad as those terrorists.

fukn hate retards

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It is sad that people have gone to bash muslims. And religion in general. And a heap of other stupid things :(

Yeah god/allah/budduh/purple monkey dish washer so saved those people from the plane crash

satan, god is allah.. allah is just an arabic word... *sigh*

by bashing innocent muslims is like bashing every white american just because charles manson was a psycho.

I know but the way people talk about allah you'd think they were two diferent gods hell the religions aren't that different AFAIK. but who needs religion not me.

/Que clever cover of "Who need the Quiki Mart" with Quiki Mart replace by religion.

"World Socialist Web Site"? I somehow don't feel incredibly inclined to take those reports that seriously!

Religion has definitely caused far more suffering than good in the world. Countless wars, terrorism, the inquisitions, the pogroms. Then there's lesser things like child abuse partially as a result of celibacy, oppression like that seen in Afghanistan, abortion clinic bombings, and other unnatural restrictions placed on people especially regarding sex.

But unfortunately people really believe these stupid myths so we just have to try dealing with it.

why the f*** you guys stickng up for the arabs?
HELLOO!!!!!! the arabs TRIED to kill civilians, the yanx AVOID killing civilians, BIIIIIIIIIIG DIFFERENCE!

and dont say "the yanx got wot they deserved", no country deserves to have non-military installations destroyed, especially without warning.
and dont say "but the yanx bombed tha japs", they gave warning first! they said sumthing like "if you dont cease your attacks on us, we will be forced to use nuclear weapons against you", yet the japs still kept at it.

LOL! The World Socialist's print the most ridiculous crap. They think just about everything non-socialist is some evil, capitalist conspiracy.

i saw someone had written "go bach the terrorists, not innocent people", so why cant someone say that to the terrorists?

So hurting innocent people makes up for hurting innocent people does it NrKy? If I bash you up does that help make up for the terrorist attacks?

snitch, try it and find out :)

snitch, since when did i make up the rules of engagement?

hahaha how can you blame ppl that had nothing to do with it?

unless they're cheering. then you should be suspicious, but if they're here and they didn't do anything, like little school kids who CERTAINLY lack the capacity to do such things, WTF?!?

so how exactly is saying that anything non-socialist is evil (who tf said that?), any different to saying that anything non-islamic is evil, or anything non-catholic is evil?
religion is all bulls***, and im still not sure wtf people kill in the name of religion for? its all bs to me, and dont even think about quoting any s*** from that evil-little-bit-of-toilet-paper-that-fits-in-ur-back-pocket-for-easy-access-when-u-wanna-take-a-dump book with the red cover (no, not the works of marx), the b.... the biiii.... eeeeek! i cant even say it, it hurts my throat emitting that evil word!

whos the motherf*** who disabled my sig? f***ing wanka! holly vallance kicks your arse!

Yeah let's all go bash some people at random. The tragedy in the U.S. calls for it.

If I saw someone cheering at what happened, I'd have trouble restraining myself from physical violence. But what NrKy said is beyond stupid.

You're becoming more and more incoherent NrKy. I'm having difficulties understanding what you're trying to say.

The World Socialist's, ha commies just what the world needs.
Nrky I don't think ever Arab in the known universe is out to get America. Just a few get that in your cock, dick brian.

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LOL @ your attempt at diction, your sentence structure, and the fact that you didnt make any sense at all.

* NUKED *

by me :D

"NUKE THE KUNTS!"

"Nuke who?"

"NUKE THE TERRORISTS!"

"Who are the Terrorists?"

"dunno... "

You f***ing terrorist loving admins who keep nuking everyone can go and f*** yourselves you towel headed f***s.

Bet if i said, "nah f*** america, they derserve it" you'd leave it here.

Poofters.

/me gives up arguing with a bunch of fairy, f***** hippies.

Shut up SBK you dickhed

why is it that admin has to be such f***sticks. I mean do they get a kick seeing the little red nuked signs.
the f***in idea of posts is so that people can say what they think whats the point of posting someting
if it gets nuked
SBK you rock

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