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qmass
Posts: 8076
Location: Queensland
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html
US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.The fact that they sustained no brain damage is a really f***ing awesome sign as its one of the main problems when somones heart stops beating - lack of oxygen to the brain. Imagine how many lives could be saved by removing the 'time to get from scene to hospital' factor. |
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| #0 09:34pm 27/06/05 |
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Skitza
Posts: 6596
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Awesome
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| #1 09:33pm 27/06/05 |
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Hardball, Billy
Posts: 4669
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I thought a dog's body temp was 45 normally?
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| #2 09:34pm 27/06/05 |
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Obes
Posts: 2913
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I was hoping for a pet dog that you couldn't kill unless you had a shotgun to blow off its head ... the ultimate in low maintenance pets.
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| #3 09:35pm 27/06/05 |
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Fish
Posts: 1527
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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^^ then the dog bites you and you become a low maintenance IT worker
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| #4 09:56pm 27/06/05 |
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scuzzy
Posts: 11375
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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here cujo! come here boy!
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| #5 09:58pm 27/06/05 |
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rogue_squirrel
Posts: 235
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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whats the differance between death, and clinicle death?
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| #6 10:00pm 27/06/05 |
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Joanna
Posts: 602
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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meh, too much toying with the natural cycle...
if someone dies they should die.. sounds mean, but where will it stop. i personally do not think this is such a good idea, even if it were to save a loved one of mine.. i would be thankful, but i dunno.. |
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| #7 10:02pm 27/06/05 |
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r_mazing
Posts: 777
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Stick where do u get your info from, asif a dog is that hot.
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| #8 10:08pm 27/06/05 |
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Fish
Posts: 1530
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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clinical death i think is defined as when your vital signs stop for a certain period of time (though i supposed that ppl have been revived from being clinically dead, so that's why it's only clinical). though i could be wrong on the exact defintion.
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| #9 10:09pm 27/06/05 |
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Spook
Posts: 13646
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i reckon stick has teh mad google skillz
http://dogs.about.com/cs/disableddogs/f/temperature.htm its 39 degrees celcius stick lies again, just like when he says people like live guitar music |
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| #10 10:18pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3376
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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clinical death is when your vital signs stop period.(u _may_ still be revived)
death is when your dead. |
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| #11 11:05pm 27/06/05 |
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qmass
Posts: 8077
Location: Queensland
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clinical death i think is defined as when your vital signs stop for a certain period of time (though i supposed that ppl have been revived from being clinically dead, so that's why it's only clinical). though i could be wrong on the exact defintion.Yeah, thats about it. When the body stops functioning your heart stops pumping which isnt as important as oxygen is no longer fixed to blood cells which means anything the heart could pump is now useless. The cells of the body, without oxygen for respiration, start to die and when the cells die they cannot be brought back. In the brain this causes brain damage. So from a possibly revivable state is clinical death. 'Technically dead' edit: its like in the princess bride, only half dead not whole dead or whatever, I cant remember the exact words. last edited by Qmass at 23:06:32 27/Jun/05 last edited by Qmass at 23:12:37 27/Jun/05 |
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| #12 11:12pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3377
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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"The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor.but what about MEC? |
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| #13 11:07pm 27/06/05 |
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Hunter
Posts: 1971
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Whilst this make work on non-sentient creatures, what of those creatures which are sentient (ie us)? Its all well and good that the dog died and was brought back to life, seemingly without cerebral damage but what of its memories? Or its personality?
Also, this wouldn't work on lawyers or politicians... |
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| #14 11:08pm 27/06/05 |
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whoop
Posts: 8677
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I thought clinical death was measured by a number of factors before they will pronounce you dead. 0 brain activity, 0 pulminary activity & 0 respiratory activity, dead dead is just plain eaten by coyoties, 6 feet under pushing up daisies gone.
heard it on some foxtel doco but wasn't really paying attention so I could be mistaken. |
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| #15 11:10pm 27/06/05 |
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cs_master
Posts: 54
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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it wouldn't work on you hunter, you'd need to have a life in the first place, lol
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| #16 11:10pm 27/06/05 |
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qmass
Posts: 8078
Location: Queensland
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Whilst this make work on non-sentient creatures, what of those creatures which are sentient (ie us)? Its all well and good that the dog died and was brought back to life, seemingly without cerebral damage but what of its memories? Or its personality?Thats why they will run clinical trials before making wide spread use of it. And dogs are sentient, they just cant tell you about it. |
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| #17 11:11pm 27/06/05 |
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Hunter
Posts: 1972
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I thought clinical death was measured by a number of factors before they will pronounce you dead. 0 brain activity, 0 pulminary activity & 0 respiratory activity, dead dead is just plain eaten by coyoties, 6 feet under pushing up daisies gone.Judging by some footage of question time, I think science already knows the answer to this - I mean half the backbenchers meet the criteria you just described so obviously we've discovered a reanimation technique :D. last edited by Hunter at 23:12:54 27/Jun/05 |
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| #18 11:12pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3378
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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just keep sufficient distance and you wont need it
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| #19 11:13pm 27/06/05 |
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qmass
Posts: 8079
Location: Queensland
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lol becuase some professions arent alive am i riteHunter, it wasnt funny in either of your posts. stop s***ting up my thread. |
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| #20 11:13pm 27/06/05 |
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Hunter
Posts: 1973
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I'd be more concerned about the brain-dead retards already posting in here... I'm surprised fuknukle can string more than two words together. Wonders will never cease.
Oh and I was referring to the fact that lawyers and politicians are blood sucking vampires who would cease to be without it. And, who are the poor bastards who will form the basis of a human trial? I can't see too many people volunteering to have their bloody sucked out and have it replaced with brine. last edited by Hunter at 23:19:33 27/Jun/05 |
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| #21 11:19pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3379
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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maintain sufficient
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| #22 11:17pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3380
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I want my bloody sucked out
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| #23 11:20pm 27/06/05 |
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nF
Posts: 10731
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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And, who are the poor bastards who will form the basis of a human trial? I can't see too many people volunteering to have their bloody sucked out and have it replaced with brine. Oh don't worry hunter, i don't think you are in danger of an unwanted suck anytime soon. |
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| #24 11:25pm 27/06/05 |
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Hunter
Posts: 1974
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You're about as funny as the 200m hurdles even at the special olympics... ie not funny.
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| #25 11:29pm 27/06/05 |
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Obes
Posts: 2917
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Your posts are informitive and witty as ever nF.
I take it Maxe found those other "unwanted shag" jokes funny, thus you must impress him with more ? |
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| #26 11:29pm 27/06/05 |
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nF
Posts: 10733
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
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Thanks obes.
(Just quietly, does your gf know you drove her car off road?) (lol) |
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| #27 11:44pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3381
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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why?
do you have to ask maxe before doing anything? |
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| #28 11:49pm 27/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3382
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ooaaww i want a bite :)
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HERMITech
Posts: 2447
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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BF2 Voice *MEDIC* - clear *zap* : Now get back in the fight !!!
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| #30 11:54pm 27/06/05 |
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WhiteWolf
Posts: 1646
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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You're about as funny as the 200m hurdles even at the special olympicsnow that would be f***ing hilarious! i can just see now retards trying to jump this hurdles and making retarded grunting noises... am i the only one? :( |
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| #31 12:01am 28/06/05 |
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Hardball, Billy
Posts: 4670
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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O I was way off. Still thought, they got it wrong in the article which was the point I was trying to make. Makes you wonder about the accuracy of the other information;)
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| #32 12:04am 28/06/05 |
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Fuknukle
Posts: 3383
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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hahaha WhiteWolf exactly what i thought.
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| #33 12:07am 28/06/05 |
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z0r
Posts: 1320
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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then the dog bites you and you become a low maintenance IT workerFish wins this thread. Hunter, stop rising to the bait. and you get personal, instead of witty. so it just comes off as bitter, not funny. |
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| #34 01:58am 28/06/05 |
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Makaveli
Posts: 2074
Location: USA
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You're about as funny as the 200m hurdles even at the special olympics Church people don't make fun of retards |
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