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Topic: kentucky fried cruelty
EviL..
Posts: 197
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
During my travels around the internet i stumbled across this video on the peta website. for those that don’t know PETA, thay are a radical vegetarian organization . you can visit there web site here http://www.peta.org/ . being a vego myself i can appreciate what these people are going on about but i don’t really endorse the way thay go about it. I don’t believe that there is anything wrong with humans eating meat, i just have a problem with some of the methods that we obtain the meat. Anyway this is a video that shows how KFC in America farms the chickens that go into the bucket. Its hosted by pamela anderson and its an interesting watch though not for the faint hearted. http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=pam_kfc_long&feat=pam_kfc_long&pos=fp4

again, i don’t support peta, although i do agree with there views on ending the torture of animals, thay have a far to unrealistic view on vegetarianism

BTW. in Australia Steggles provides the chickens for KFC and thay use a similar method to that which is shown in the video.

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exo
Posts: 7457
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yum!
Grosby
Posts: 3187
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
PETA are as bad as any other extremist group - they twist things around until they have "facts" and use scare tactics.
Reverend Evil
Posts: 11563
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
That video was hilarious...not!
Denominator
Posts: 388
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah its not realy that bad in australia. But you do know they do allmost exactly the same thing with cows now its just a bigger shed.
WreckTim
Posts: 128
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they are just chickens. u hippy.
Hashy
Posts: 2158
Location: New South Wales
http://www.kingskid.blogspot.com/images/bigpot5.jpg

Sponsor a vegetarian folks
WreckTim
Posts: 129
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
more ppl would read this if u changed the thread to

"Pam Anderson KFC Video"
Obes
Posts: 2816
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I like being on top of the food chain.

If we stop eating animals then they will rise above us on the food chain we can't have that.
Skyhawk
Posts: 1336
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
This is my daughter Janice stan. She's obvulating.
Imperial
Posts: 268
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I aint no tree huggin hippie by a long shot, but that s*** is f***ed up, sadism in its finest :S
WhiteWolf
Posts: 1608
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
FEAR THE PROPAGANDA!
Spook
Posts: 13558
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hahah
asif you would eat the chicken from kfc

ONLY THE FILLET/ZINGER BURGERS ARE SAFE


signed
former kfc cook
Jim
Posts: 3303
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
obvu-what?
is that something that happens with obvaries?
ravn0s
Posts: 2729
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i thought they cooked cats in america
Crizane Tribal
Posts: 420
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ha ha, that took me a second try to get that, Skyhawk.

Go the south park quotes!!!!
IncrEdible_vEgetable
Posts: 247
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yes former KFC "chef" here too.
The chicken is pretty dodgy. Although I have eaten it a few times since, I was strictly a burger boy on the very few occasions that I frequented KFC.
But as long as you know that the gravy in the Potato and Gravy is scrapings from the bottom of the fat fryer mixed with water, and the chicken is pumping more steroids than Ben Johnson at the 84 Olympics, then it's up to you.

Having said that, I must admit I have eaten it recently.

I feel dirty.

Hold me.
Tiny
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it is rather cruel but like the others said, thats just the food chain, given the chance im sure an uber race of chickens would gladly breed us for kentucky fried human. furthermore, humans are meant to eat meat, its unatural not to do so.
Midda
Posts: 474
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Personally, I can't get enough dead bird, tastes great!
sLiNky
Posts: 285
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Im with you Midda!
Obes
Posts: 2821
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Eat the chickens or the chickens will eat us.
EviL..
Posts: 198
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yer, i dont have any problem with people eating meat at all, i just choose not to, and have a squeeky clean bowel for it :). but i was just wondering, would any of you have a problem with paying a fraction more for your chicken, beef and dairy if it ment that the animals didn’t suffer on the way to your plate ?. one thing i hate is judgmental vegetarians thinking there somehow better than everyone else.
Obes
Posts: 2822
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think by definition every vegetarian thinks they are somehow superior.

ps. In my experience, most people can't stand vegetarians becuase they are essentially fusspots with attitude.

Atleast I understand where the concept of halal food comes from (it was a religous public safety measure) even if today saying pig is dangerous is kind of a bit whacky.
Midda
Posts: 475
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
i dont have any problem with people eating meat at all, i just choose not to

Tehn you'd be about the only vego I've ever "met" who doesn't have a problem with me eating meat. I've not spoken to a single vego who didn't say something like "omg, how could you eat those poor animals? You're so cruel, blah blah blah."

Yet, they don't have a problem with lions, tigers, etc, hunting down antelope and eating them. Now why is that?
Loki
Posts: 6059
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
You're meant to eat meat -.-
z0r
Posts: 1293
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
actually tiny, there are a few things which point to humans not really being built for eating meat. the shape of our teeth for example is more condusive to eating plant matter than sharp canines of predominantly meat eaters. also, carnivores have a markedly shorter digestive period than us and a large steak will take a long time to break down, effectively sitting in our stomachs for longer than it should.

if there is anyone here who could speak on this who knows more about it ie. med student/dietician?

edit: btw, i love meat.

last edited by z0r at 13:51:29 18/Jun/05
Midda
Posts: 476
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Pffft, who cares. I want my dinner plate to be piled with some dead lambies, chicken, and a big f***in T-bone.
Skitza
Posts: 6564
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Vegetarians... sigh.
hast
Posts: 595
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If we were meant to live off vegetables then you wouldn't starve to death by eating cabbage.
Idol
Posts: 83
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
PETA - People for Extortion Terror and Abuse
z0r
Posts: 1295
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
that's rather good idol.
maxe
Posts: 10653
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
brain turned off at "PETA"
BoBa
Cainer
Posts: 1915
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
so much for the PETA

PETA employees charged with animal cruelty
shad
Posts: 1106
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I'd pay a little bit extra if they treated the chickens more cruely.
ctd
Posts: 4001
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Our little friend Evil obviously hasnt heard of the food chain...

*que simpsons food chain picture.
Slappercx
Posts: 1785
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
if god didnt want us to eat meat. he would not have made cows out of them
sLiNky
Posts: 288
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Well i watched the video before. I went out shopping 5 mins ago. The video was a little off putting...............But not enough. God i love KFC!!
defi
Posts: 2423
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
im off to kfc now
step
Posts: 859
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
We are meant to have a healthy mixture of both. For all those vegies saying we shouldn't eat meat, they should be shot.
Triamks
Posts: 980
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
So it's a fact that the gravy is made from the scrappings of the fryers? I work at HJs and when I was getting trained to clean/filter the friers the manager commented that it looked a lot like the gravy at KFC. So if that is fact then that is pretty disgusting and I'll have to think twice about eating in future. Then again I hardly ever eat there anyway so I think I'm safe.
shad
Posts: 1107
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I hear vegetarians are a rich source of meat.
qmass
Posts: 8054
Location: Queensland
hey, corn fed chicken is good, why wouldnt corn fed humans be also.

That video was pretty nasty, the beak thing sucks. I gotta say, those guys were awesome at throwing those chickens into the crate. The slits are barely wider than the chickens and they barely missed.

You think about how much it would suck for the birds, but imagine working in a big ass chicken hut. If the birds suffocate on ammonia and s***, so do the workers. It would be stressful as f***ing (haha, obviously I meant 'f***' but Ill leave it there cause the typo made me laff) with all the noise, constant wing flapping and generally depressing environment. Im sure that if i worked there id get pretty insane and stop giving a f*** about the chickens too.

last edited by Qmass at 18:08:25 18/Jun/05
existence`
Posts: 5571
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the video made me f***ing ill

sick f***ing barstards, if i ever saw a c*** beating on an animal like in that movie, i would smash his f***
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 2067
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mmm i feel like eat KFC!
I hear vegetarians are a rich source of meat.

ROFL

last edited by Irhabi at 18:19:43 18/Jun/05
Obes
Posts: 2825
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Shad they are flavourless, they sort of taste like chicken... Not enough iron in their diet.
BigZub
Posts: 3283
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah i have a friend who used to work in a chicken place.


whats happened in that video is what pretty much happens in the place he used to work at.

he also said they were very weak, like literally you could snap their necks without trying.
Fish
Posts: 1519
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
But as long as you know that the gravy in the Potato and Gravy is scrapings from the bottom of the fat fryer mixed with water
well, that's the basic technique to making a sauce... deglaze the stuff on the bottom of the pan with some liquid (anything from water, stock or wine) and then use something to thicken it...
sLaps_Forehead
Posts: 1933
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hey did anyone see A Current Affairs story about the hormones they pump into Chooks to make them grow faster??

Anyway they had these two chicks (1 on roids the other normal) that they filmed over 6 weeks etc. By the end of the 6 weeks one was twice the size of the other and can only be described as an 'uber chook'.

Ive now officially sworn off chickens for good, cos I dont want that f***ed up chemical s*** in my body.
Booyah
Posts: 3791
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
and that is why, my friends, i only eat halal meat.

Everything is slaughtered by hand, nothing is stunned nor electricuted, blood fully drained, and nothing is certainly stomped on.

Suckers.
ravn0s
Posts: 2732
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs.
Midda
Posts: 478
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
Chilliiiiiii baby back ribs.
qmass
Posts: 8057
Location: Queensland
well, that's the basic technique to making a sauce... deglaze the stuff on the bottom of the pan with some liquid (anything from water, stock or wine) and then use something to thicken it...
Sauces generally come from stock or drippings. The s*** at the bottom of a deep fryer is not either. You can hardly compare the nice brown action in a fry pan to whats in a deep fryer.
ctd
Posts: 4004
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The sauce you get on a nice steak at a restaurant is just excess meat scraps chucked in a massive pot kinda like a 'stew'. Anyway its nothing new, still tastes good eh.
qmass
Posts: 8058
Location: Queensland
actually, its not at all.

You are talking about jus. Jus, for steak in this case, is beef stock (made from beef bones (with some but not a whole lot of meat which can be roasted first or not, boiled in a pot with vegetables, non starch - because starch makes the stock cloudy will contain nine times out of ten onions, carrot and celery as well as other stuff, its called mire poire) and then the stock is reduced many times over until when you pour it out on a plate it holds its shape rather than runs everywhere.

It is IMPERITIVE that stock is made from bones, becuase the collagen in the bones is what thickens the jus. Its obviously very diluted in stock hence boiling it down to remove most of the water. Its why when proper jus is refridgerated it turns in to jelly and youll often get jelly forming on the top of a bucket of stock when its been in the fridge for a while.

Having been an aprentice I know about making stock :cry:

edit: Forgot to mention that before the stock is reduced to make jus its strained so that its only the liquid.

last edited by Qmass at 02:22:39 19/Jun/05
Khel
Posts: 10026
Location: Wynnum, Queensland
Ah, I always wondered what jus was actually. Now that I know, I can avoid it, because beef jelly just doesn't hold any attraction to me.



qmass
Posts: 8060
Location: Queensland
well its not jelly. Its a liquid/runny/sauce when its served. Anything above pretty damn cold will melt it. For this matter, most 'decent' gravies for eating with roasts will also turn into jelly when refridgerated. Gravy is a similar thing. Its just thickened stock/drippings. If I can remember its called jus lie in french. I have totally forgotten the french terms for most things now because I havnt worked in kitchens in over a year now. Cooking f***ing blows, im back doing science again :(

Jus is seriously awesome. If you dont try it you are stupid becuase most good food is kind of weird stuff. Soup is essentially based on the same thing as jus. So its the same thing.

last edited by Qmass at 02:57:11 19/Jun/05
Obes
Posts: 2830
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
qmass don't try to educate the unwashed masses into trying good foods. Let them run in blissful ignorance.
rogue_squirrel
Posts: 228
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f***ed up, i reakon this is worse though.

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=covance_main&feat=covance_main&pos=fp1
Midda
Posts: 482
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
rogue_squirrel, that s*** is f***ed up
Cr@ckerJ@ck
Posts: 699
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah this PETA group are also are up in arms about australian sheep farmers using millsing(cutting the skin from around the sheeps ass) to keep the sheeps rearends clean and not get fly blown.They have successfully stopped a number of stores in the US from selling aussie wool products.

/meanwhile thousands of children die in 3rd world countries from disease....sad.

Whats next? Animals having more rights than humans?
ravn0s
Posts: 2733
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
damn thats horrible. poor little monkeys :(
TufNuT
I like eel pie
Posts: 2072
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah the tubes were f***ed up but i lol'ed @ monkey in the pipe and monkey chasing tail; in the cage
stinky
Posts: 800
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Chickens in Aus are not fed Hormones, they are given heaps of antibiotics but not hormones or steroids.
Denominator
Posts: 393
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
bulls*** they are given hormones and steroids I just finnish building a mixer at a plant that makes chicken food.
Booyah
Posts: 3793
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
acetame is like a chicken on roids.
Obes
Posts: 2839
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mm why doesn't mr sanders cook monkey ?
ravn0s
Posts: 2735
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
what goes around comes around

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=dead_pigs

last edited by ravn0s at 19:35:01 19/Jun/05
shad
Posts: 1112
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Fear is one of the colonel's secret herbs and spices.
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