anyone recommend me any good new hardcore hip hop?

i like m.o.p, gravediggaz, wu-tang etc. no girly r&b crap like bone thugz plz.




ps. flame on.
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bep monkey bus
longest yard soundtrack is maddest
jin album 2005 (dunno what its called)
akon album 2005 (dunno what its called)
kayne west album 2005 ditto

Eminem?

taleb kweli - get by

Dont no about hardcore...Maybe some Ill Bill, Necro or the first Getto Boyz album.

If you want some great hiphop checkout Sage Francis's "A Healthy Distrust" or Mr Lif's "I Phantom"

Geto Boys
Gangsta NIP (lol)
NWA
Paris
Plus solo albums from groups mentioned above.

Mr Vegetable will no doubt post a comprehensive list.

no girly r&b crap like bone thugz plz.

Not even, bone thuggs rock. Latest bone thuggs album "Bone Brothers" - Not as good as the old stuff but still good.

I guess you would like:
The Game - The docomentary.
Young Gunz - Brother from another.
Michael Buble` - Its Time (lol)
Common - Be (not gangsta)

lolol micheal buble is on your list,

and like, woah, kanye has a new album out!

Yeh Kanye's album aint as good as his first one though.

Mike Jones - Who is Mike Jones
and go all the ones g0t_bean mentioned.

... sorry I cant help you, as I dont listen to s***.

You listen to yourself talk all the time.

zing

Yeh Kanye's album aint as good as his first one though.

his new album is actually his old one.

There was a bootleg that came out a few months before "College Dropout" that was basically an unfinished and unpolished version of "Freshman Adjustment".

Theyre both pretty damn awesome, just slightly different styles and production levels.

lil bow wow, yo

By hardcore Hip Hop do you me Gangster hip hop ??

If so get some
Cypress hill
Royce Da 5"9
Nas
Pitbull
C'n'N (Capone an Noreaga)
Get Some of the Wu-Tang solos like
Gza - Beneath The surface
Rza - Birth Of A Prince
Method Man - Tical O: Prequel

Hope im some help :)

Itchy Trigger Finger Niggaz

NOW SAY THAT REALLY FAST.

Smoke shibbah shibbah some shibbah shibbah.

OK so you want hardcore and new...

Not really sure what you mean by hardcore. I mean, the term can be applied to some hip hop, but it is thrown around a bit loosely these days. I take hardcore, as far as hip hop goes, to mean the style of hip hop that is non-mainstream and does not contain r'n'b overtones. In other words it would incorporate 'real' or pure hip hop ie. no half-stepping crossover s***.

Having said that the newer albums (last 12 or so months) that fit this description would be things like People Under the Stairs, Lyrics Born, Edan, Nas etc.

All that new 'crunk' music, and Ludacris, Fabulous, Benzino, Jay-Z, s*** isn't really my thing. If you really want to get into some new s***, go to Butter Beats or Rocking Horse records and flip through the new vinyl. That's where it's at.

But if you want a bit of a list of cool s*** to check out in the meantime, old new and in between here it is:

Latyrx, Common, Digital Underground, Ice T, NWA (Ice Cube, Dr Dre, MC Ren, Eazy-E) Geto Boys (Willie D, Scarface, Bushwick Bill, Big Mike) 5th Ward Boys, K Solo, Busy B, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Kool Moe Dee, Melle Mel, Afrika Bambataa, BDP (KRS_1), Run DMC, Beastie Boys, Slick Rick, Original Concept, Treacherous 3, Juice Crew All Stars, LL Cool J, Black Sheep, Schooly D, A Tribe Called Quest, Blackalicious, Company Flow, Wu-Tang + solo albums, Hieroglyphics, Sir Mix-a-Lot, Public Enemy, Paris, Professor Griff, Notorious BIG, Tupac, 2 Live Crew, Tuff Crew, UTFO, Whodini, Above the Law, Big Daddy Kane, Eric B and Rakim, Jurassic 5, Fat Boys, Kokane, Kool Keith, Ultramagnetic MC's, Lord Finesse, mobb Deep, Rahzel, De La Soul, Pharcyde, Cypress Hill, Gangstarr, Special Ed, Poor Righteous Teachers, King Tee, Rob Base and DJ EZ-Rock, Jungle Brothers, UGK, Brand Nubian, Too Short, Ant Banks, the list goes on..

If you need more info ie. which albums are the better ones etc gimme a yell. But seriously, if you haven't checked out any or all of the above i would urge you to give em a listen. A lot of different styles there, but I like em all.

hahha
u didnt even mention dr octogon/analogue brothers/koolkeith

Kool Keith, Ultramagnetic MC's

Nah I remembered them. Well I figured Dr Octagon/Analogue Brothers is Kool Keith, but yeah he does rawk in those incarnations too.

I have Dr Octagon, Black Elvis/Lost in Space and the album with Keith holding the rat burger on the cover (name escapes me atm) by KK and Ultramags on vinyl.

alright
u can have some props then;

kool keith is awesome!

Yes Kool Keith is one crazy cat. He is pretty out there in terms of his lyrics/delivery sometimes, but somehow it seems to work.

Blue Flowers, I Run Rap, Supergalactic Lover and Waiting List (DJ Shadow/Automator Mix) are some of his cool tracks, but how can you really pick from such a great back catalogue.

Ultramags are some of my fav old school s***

Mystikal


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IncrEdible_vEgetable how can you not add Ice Cubes solo stuff.....plus ICP!!!

NWA (Ice Cube, Dr Dre, MC Ren, Eazy-E)

I'd say that listing means the solo albums from the group.

We could have an Eminem and ICP show down.

i like eminems work

im also entertained by icp filmclips and webstories about them

im so easily pleased

You should see Big Money Husslers then....If i wasnt such a huge ICP fan i would have stopped watching it.But it had Mick Foley in it so it was cool.

Yeah I listed the members from NWA and Geto Boys who have had solo albums :)

But I totally agree, Ice Cube has probably made the most consistently great hip hop albums of all time. I was just listening to Death Certificate today and that album is one of his best I reckon.

And yes, I did forget ICP. Great Milenko and Jeckel Bros. f*** yeh.

Just picked up ICP's latest one today...."The Calm".Only 8 tracks but theres a couple of great ones on it.

Yeah "My Summer Vacation" is one dang fine tune.

Jedi Mind Tricks

Naughty By Nature for the oldskoolers!

Yeah 'Yoke the Joker'

So many favourites..........

Yeh Tanaka I had Great Milenko on high rotation there for a while. And the Jeckel Brothers has some killer tracks on it too. I wondered if they'd make any more albums after they finished their 6 albums in the Dark Carnival series.

Now tell me this...the Mike Clark from ICP...that isn't the same Mike Clark
that plays in Suiciadal Tendencies is it?
Their earlier stuff isn't as good IMO, but that's probably more to do with the money spent on production. I wouldn't mind checking out their new one though.


And yeh Naughty By Nature..that's one I forgot.

You down with O.P.P?
Yeah you know me.

Unsure about Mike Clark issue,but as for their albums,after Shangri-La the 6th Jokers card,they released Hell's Pit which they also claim to be the 6th Card,but making it the 7th.The just released "The Calm",the 8 track cd i mentioned earlier,and in 2006 they are releasing "The Tempest" which by all accounts,should be a full album release.
Apart from the "Jokers Card" series,they also released another 3 cd's-
*Insane Clown Posse Mutilation Mix-Greatest Hits (That Never Were Hits)
*Tunnel of Love
*Bizzar
Not to mention Dark Lotus,the group they formed with Twiztid.
As you can tell i am a fan =)

i was at the kool keith concert a couple of months ago representin what? my left and my right.

it was mad fun, he threw porn out into the crowd at the end. and he did two different versions of blue flowers.

i dont know if this is potatold or anything but a nice little number by MC chris called fetts vett is available at www.mcchris.com. its a rap about boba fett and is worth the bandwith in my opinion.

oh yeah that dude is totally awesome.

if you like mc chris check out www.frontalot.com for MC FRONTALOT. his starwars song is Yellow Laser Beam and it totally makes me chortle.

lyrics are as follows

met her at the star wars convention
did I mention, she was looking for love?
had to call her bluff, lady you don't mean how that sounded
(the thousand-pound dude in the 'no fat chicks' shirt's astounded)
thought she'd take it back, revoke, rescind, rewind, retract
ya heard me, she said, I want any man here
to descend in the cave where you conquer the fear
and I'll steer you to side of the force that you choose
somebody's man enough here -- now who?
This girl, now you have to understand,
would not look out of place on the arm of an attractive man
so the geeks in attendance got jaws on the floor, one extends his
saber but he tripped on his cloak, I stepped to the front then I spoke
I ain't spitting game, look I got a wookie hat on,
but these guys here are used to gettin' spat on
by girls, see you put em in shock.
And this ain't the right con to quote mister spock
but it's highly illogical to me. Girl looked in my eye, said is your mind free?

Cause I got something for you
it is shiny, it is clean
Come on up and I'll adore you
with my yellow laser beam

sitting in her room upstairs,
watching her wind up the buns in her hair
I declare that I'd like to be luke,
unless that's a little bit too perverted for you
I could be jaba, a jawa, an ewok, when we talk "oo ga la gee bla!"
wait -- I seen all the flicks, all the books that I read,
don't remember any character tied to the bed
but that's all right, I'ma just pretend that I'm encased in carbonite
and why that's a nice gold bikini, you make that?
shows off what you got, make no mistake that's
one fine view of chewbacca you're giving me
lower that down here, we could be living the
linguistic lifesyle of the protocol droid.
(Here comes the part where I'm not overjoyed)
Fire! She said, and before I could scream
got a steaming mouth full of yellow laser beam

Deltron 3030

All that new 'crunk' music, and Ludacris, Fabulous, Benzino, Jay-Z, s*** isn't really my thing.

Fabulous and Jay-Z crunk? f*** no. Fab is borderline and Jay-Z is Jay-Z.

Crunk == Lil Jon, Yin-Yang Twins and Ludacris to a lesser extent

the jay z and linkin park mixes are so dope, i listen to that papercut/big pimpin mix daily. i wouldn't say its crunk though.

Yeh you're right Jay-Z isn't crunk, was just lumping him in with "new" artists.
He's actually got some ok tracks, but I just prefer other stuff.

I gotta say though Linkin Park is a band I just don't like at all. Sports metal crossover bands like LP and Korn are kinda boring to me. Probably good for teenagers with angst and such, they get old really quickly. I simply find their approach to music making shallow and they are unlistenable after one or two songs. The only good crossover rock/metal-rap hybrid is and will only ever be, Run DMC and Aerosmith "Walk This Way"...end of story.

dude the linkin park/jay z stuff is hands down AWESOME. i was skeptical at first, but you HAVE TO LISTEN TO it. especially big pimpin/papercut.

OK I'll give it a whirl.

gangstarr.

thats the stuff!

memphis bleek/young gunz new albums are both pretty good, same with jadakiss's new one

umm oldschool cormega/nas/az is well worth the listen

and of course, how can you forgot Big L !!

hey lithios isn't guru from gangstarr playing in Brisbane.....damn I think it's TONIGHT!

at some place on adelaide street.

Check it out. I think it's only about $15 too. It's in the latest Scene magazine.

http://www.inthemix.com.au/whatson/show/21836/

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no problem - lil scrappy

mad clip too.

Vanilla Ice - Ninja Rap

Gangstarr
Lloyd Banks
Young Buck
DMX

Kurupt & DPG - 'Kurruption' 'Dogg Food' Space Boogie' 'Streets is a Mutha' 'Dillinger & Young Gotti'
Dr. Dre - 'Chronic' 'Chronic 2001' 'DETOX' <-- when it's released
Young Buck - 'Cashville'
Lloyd Banks - 'Hunger for More'
All G-Unit mixtapes
Westside Connection - 'Terrorist Threats' & 'Bow Down'
The Game - 'The Documentary'
213 - 'The Hard Way'
2pac - 'All eyez on me' etc
Ice T - 'Power' 'Rhyme Pays'
Warren G - 'Regulate - G-Funk Era'
Snoop Dogg - Anything

If you didn't notice I like Westcoast rap.
Ice Cube is probably one of the greatest rappers ever, however Dr. Dre is by far the most talented member from N.W.A., from a production point of view. Dr. Dre would have to be the most successful Producer in any genre.

50 cent is the only black rapper I listen to nowadays. I like eminem's old s***, but his newest album was childish and frankly an embarresment. D12 world had some good tracks. For a futuristic head trip, Non Phixion. Get futurama and drug music, you'll see what I mean.

Eminem hasn't got the raw appeal he used to have. Too much money destorys any rappers credability. 50 won't be far behind. You can't rap about struggling and gangbanging when u live in a 10million dollar house.

Ice Cube is probably one of the greatest rappers ever, however Dr. Dre is by far the most talented member from N.W.A., from a production point of view. Dr. Dre would have to be the most successful Producer in any genre.

Agreed.

I prefer Dre over any of the other members. His style is so smooth, production immaculate and his delivery is always spot on. You can crank it up and it never sounds 'noisy' just phat :)

Ice Cube is also one of the best. However he lacks the refinement of Dre. Not that that is a negative quality just a different style and sound.

Eazy E? Well he's Eazy E - pushin up daisy's, with something like 10 kids cruising around and some disappointed hoes. He was really the hanger-arounder, never really had much to contribute. Except the cussing.

Easy had some dope rhymes, s*** just went too f***ing sour. Money.

Yeah, Eazy-E was great when Ice Cube was writing his rhymes and Dre was producing.

His solo albums while feuding with Dre are pretty forgettable. Eazy-E was pretty much a novelty rapper for NWA, in much the same way as Flavor Flav was a sidekick to Chuck D's awesome delivery and perfect tone.

As much as these two rappers added something to the groups they belonged to, they certainly weren't really MC's in their own right.

Although I agree that Dre is the greatest producer who ever lived, I prefer the les smooth but more expressive rapping of Ice Cube. Two totally different styles, so you can't really compare, but I think Cube has gone outside the bitches, blunts and guns mentality and as such has a wider range of subject and vocabulary. I agree about the production, no question about that.

Cause when i frequent the spots that i'm known to rock
You hear the bass from the trunk when im own in the block.

One of my favourite lines is by Wu-Tang
'Life is like video footage, hard to edit, with directors, that never understood it'

omg!


HES f***ING PLAYING TONITE AND IM MISSING OUT!

DAMN YOU FULL TIME JOB


I saw that gig on inthemix.com and didnt pick up on the fact it was guru from gangstarr, i thought it was some random dude :(


so not happy bout that..

$%(&Q@*&@#$(*&(*!@(*&$(*!@&$(*&&!

yeah dre's not bad, bit of an eye-opener though when you start hearing all the 70's/80's funk tracks which hes sampled


theres a few on san andreas for you that have it, see if you can spot em.

Not as blatant as P.Diddy's attempts

hahaha yeah true!

ice-t is playin brisso soon as well!

i should clarify myself, im not doubting dre with what i said, just saying, some of the hottest tracks ive heard.. california love for instance, the riff wasnt his..

that said, tracks more than just a riff, and i dont think i could put together anything as hot as that!

Ice-T heh?

Is he bringing along the CSI crew to bust some crooks as well?

Never seen Ice-T so it could be worth a look, he also has some premium tracks to his name. 'I'm your pusher' anyone?

I hate ice-T. From ghetto shootin pO-leece hater to mr sherlock holmes fighting crime.

and the biggest let down, he's not even black.

Yeah it's a shame a few of them have sold out to s*** movies and TV rolls :(

I saw Ice Cube years ago when he came out with Cypress Hill,now that rocked (what i can remember)....

I think the one thing that stands out about Eazy-E was his voice,you just knew it was him,much in the same way of Ozzy Osbourne's voice (not talking about the stuff from the Osbourne's show,but further back)

B-Rad G - Malibootay

Yeh I was at that Ice Cube/Cypress gig.

Twas a bit hazy....err cos it was so long ago...yeh

I'd say the haze was from the big bubba we twisted up before we went in, oh yes and the length of time ago..... it was.

Vanilla Ice - Ninja Rap

OK,can anyone give me a reason why I shouldnt flame Acetame for mentioning this crap??

Flame him anyway.

Immortal Technique

GZA - Liquid Swords
Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
Hieroglyphics - Full Circle
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Mauraders

for the funnies - MC Chris, MC Hawking

Another one I forgot (I'm sure there are heaps) is The D.O.C, who was originally involved with Dre and NWA.
His solo album, No One Can Do It Better is like another funkier NWA album. Dre produces, and all the crew appear on tracks throughout, but perhaps the best is the posse cut that closes the album, The Grand Finale.

The D.O.C unfortunately had his career cut short when his vocal chords were severed/damaged in a car accident. I have a feeling he may have had something to do with EFIL4ZAGGIN, but I haven't heard anything for a long time.

Still, if you haven't already heard or own this album, and you like Dre etc, get it.

Disappointment impossible.

Oh yeh, and Jeru the Damaja. And Black Star. And Mos Def. And Taleb Kwali.
Oh and I know it's not rap, but Mixmaster Mike's latest album is also highly recommended.

d.o.c dropped an album couple years back called 'deuce'

With all this Ice Cube talk does anyone have any WSC albums?
Too $hort deserves a mention.

The Gangsta, The Killer and The Dope Dealer...

http://images.ausimages.com/upload/2005-06-17/TN_0013852.jpg


Yeh I have the first one on vinyl---"Bow Down"
It's a great album, particularly the title track, and the awesome "Hoo Bangin".
I think I have a 12" of "Bow Down" somewhere, but unfortunately it's a radio edit version.

Check this out if you're into WC.
http://westsideconnection.org/indexnews.aspx

Also Spook the name of that Kool Keith album is Dr. Doom---First Come, First Served. I just found it.





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get necro even if its not hardcare hip hop.. some of his songs are awesome