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Topic: Another New computer Thread
Fireblood
Posts: 6393
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sorry guys :(

But hey i thought, why not! ;)

Bascially i might be getting a new computer, father wants to get one before end of financial year (yes tomorrow).

About 6 months ago i was lookin at getting a nf7-s with a 2500 barton.
I see that both of these products are still around!
Would anyone recommend anything else? The nf7-s only has 2 ddr400 ram slots....not that im going to need more than that.
It has SATA support, which i probably wont be using anytime soon as i just got a new 120 gig WD. (So i could copy all the s*** from my old one and send it the f*** back!)
The main aspect i was interested in when i was looking at it a while back was the onboard sound was apparently pretty damn sweet? s*** at the moment i use onboard AC'97 sound, its pretty farkin s***, but i dont really notice too much. But hey if i can get better sound quality then yeah for sure! :D
What do you guys reakon? Any new items that i could find useful? What kinda cases do you guys recommend?
Thanks guys! :D

edit: yeah should said that hey....i dunno....probably 1k tops. Id probably get a Vid card...maybe a 9600XT or something for 280~, nf7-s: 140, CPU: 150~, Some sort of decent-never gonna f*** with me ram.

f***...thats adding up fast :(

oh and Definately no HDDs! :) Got a 120 gig gonna be coming back soon on RMA.
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Nailbomb
Posts: 1240
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
What are you looking at spending on it?
Darius
Posts: 2001
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
1000 with or without monitor?
Fireblood
Posts: 6394
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Yeah i dunno :S Im doing a few calculations and its gonna be f***ING hard to do with montior. try to do with monitor.....but if not..meh
Leon Trotsky
Posts: 482
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ok, MAYBE go ASUS for motherboard as people on OCAU have had problems with Abit, but that could be just them. I personally think Abit are sweet.

Here is what you should have a look at

2500+ 135.00
NF7-S 139.00
Kingston 1Gig Kit PC3200 (2x512) 335.00
Volcano 12 55.00
Case 80.00
GFX Sapphire 9600XT 256MG 299.00
700 bucks. Then overclock your cpu to 200fsb (easy to do with 2500)

And thats $1045
Odie
Posts: 455
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
they've only had problems with them because they do love to push them very hard. as do i. :)
Fireblood
Posts: 6395
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ill probably do a bit of overclocking....but not to extreme levels! :P

Not too keen on the volcanos, its in my room and i need to get some sleep at night! ;)
1 gig of ram? meh, i dont really mind, 512 does me fine at the moment. I dont even really need to upgrade, dad wants a new computer so im like "oh umm i wanna upgrade...you can have my computer :D"
Darius
Posts: 2003
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
ok nothing special here and it came out to 1467 but you can cut down on some htings


cpP428f800 INTEL P4 2.8ghz 800FSB Retail Box 285
ASUS P4P800-E DELUXE Wireless AN 1394 USB2.0 197
2X KINGSTON 512meg DDR400 (PC3200) 179 358.00
ANTEC Sonata, 380Watt TruePower 189 189.00
SeaGate 120 gig 7200rpm SATA 144
SAPPHIRE ATLANTIS ATI RADEON 9600 XT 256meg DDR TV / DVI out. 289 289.00



(ps. amd sux0rz ballz0rz)

last edited by Darius at 15:18:11 29/Jun/04

pps. (keep that in mind)

last edited by Darius at 15:18:23 29/Jun/04

last edited by Darius at 17:08:52 29/Jun/04
Reverend Evil
Posts: 8509
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
NF7-S boards are awesome.

Running both SATA and normal HDD's on it. The only problem I'm having is sometimes I get that popping sound when playing games or mp3's. I dunno if it's it the onboard sound or my speakers but for 99% of things it works great. Also cant work out how to install that firewire adapter. I've plugged it onto the mobo and it doesn't work. Gone thru BIOS and I cant see anything in there that I should turn on. Never use firewire anyway so I can live without it.
orbitor
Posts: 5861
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Whatever you get, just make sure it's got an AMD cpu in it ;)
shrapse
Posts: 2668
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Reverend Evil what version nForce drivers are you running?
Leon Trotsky
Posts: 484
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Darius, your config is odd, becuase why not use 2 256meg dimms for dual mem?

Darius
Posts: 2005
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
because 1gb of memory is nice and is what i have :) to make it cheaper 256 would suffice

oh i also meant to put in 2 X 512 sticks

last edited by Darius at 17:08:38 29/Jun/04
Paveway-3
Posts: 1205
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you'll be sorry, you might upgrade and then still not be good enough to play doom3 or hl2
Fireblood
Posts: 6397
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What me? ^

Anyone got ideas on d3 or hl2? Apparently the sys specs arent going to be too hardcore anyway....so wtf.
Fuknukle
Posts: 2332
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
only has 2 ddr400 ram slots.
er ive got 3 in mine.

also the board is awesum,
the sound prob is just a simple driver issue, cant remember how i fixed mine sorry :(
hmm firewire works fine on mine. there is a firewire option you will have to enable in bios.
ok nothing special here and it came out to 1467
hahaha....

seriously dont bother with 2x256 ram. your _way_ better off going 1x512 and upgrading later for another 512 for dual channel.
dual channel doenst make that much difference.
but if you can, then go 2x512 straight up, its just a money thing.

last edited by Fuknukle at 18:44:34 29/Jun/04
Fireblood
Posts: 6399
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
seriously dont bother with 2x256 ram. your _way_ better off going 1x512 and upgrading later for another 512 for dual channel.
dual channel doenst make that much difference.

Thats what i was planning :D

er ive got 3 in mine.


yeah 3 slots....only 2 go at 400mhz apparently...not big deal :P
Fuknukle
Posts: 2333
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nah all 3 are 400mhz
only 2 go dual channel tho :)
revision 1.0 and 1.2 you are correct, however revision 2.0 is where it all changed.
edit:
3 x 184-pin DDR-SDRAM for dual-channel and up to 3GB's, PC2100, PC2700 & PC3200
(DDR266, DDR333 & DDR400)
linky


last edited by Fuknukle at 19:13:55 29/Jun/04
z0r
Posts: 747
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
noooo, not 9600's
mate has a 9600 and gets way less fps than my 9500. newer model works worse. go figure.
Andrew
Posts: 1904
Location: Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
I've just built a PC for my parents. P4 2.8, ASUS P4P800SE, 512Mb RAM(in dual channel configuration) and a 9200 + case.

Paid just under a grand for it all, but that had a DVD Burner + 80Gb SATA drive in it. DVD Burner was $146 and the drive was $110

If your going to buy Intel, go for one of the P4P800SE or Deluxe boards, i picked up a P4P800SE for 160, and im suprised how quick it runs.

(I Had a squiz on THG a couple of nights ago and was suprised that the P4P800 Deluxe nips at the heels of the P4C800 Deluxe. ASUS did the naughty and managed to get thet 865 to do things that intel claimed only the 875 chipset could)

orbitor
Posts: 5864
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
AthlonXP 2500+ $135
Abit NF7-S $139
1x Kingston 512MB PC3200 $159
ATi 9800SE $259
Antec SX1040-II (with 400W supply)$166

Total: $858

Then you have some dollars spare for a monitor.
Deadly-Fly
Posts: 2080
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What Orbitor said but if you want to spend a little extra on the vid card get a GeXCube 128M Radeon 9800 PRO for $379

Or get a GeXCube 128M Radeon 9600XT EXTREME AGP Video for $289. Faster than most other 9600XTs.
Fireblood
Posts: 6400
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Hey guys, thanks for the response!
Intel are probably a bit too exy for my price region, and i think id rather get a better vid card and same speed cpu than a "better quality" cpu.

Anyone wanna explain the differences between the 9600XT, 9800 Pro, and 9800SE.

Are they all decent cards? Can they run the latest games? Reakon they could run doom3/hl2?
Deadly-Fly
Posts: 2081
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
9800pro > 9600XT > 9800SE.

However some 9800SE's can be 'unlocked' so they run like a 9800pro but there's no guaranties. 9800pro won't have any probs with Doom 3 or HL2, 9600XT and 9800SE will run both games but not as well as the 9800pro.
Fireblood
Posts: 6403
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Umart have got:

Radeon 9600XT 256M Sapphire Outofstock $299.00

Radeon 9600XT 256MB PowerColor Outofstock $270.00

Not a bad price imo. For a decent card.
Morphous
Posts: 1
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland
Go for the Asus A7n8x-E Delux they are a good motherbourd for the price and go AMD all the way. Another thing have a look at the XFX FX5700-XT with DDR3 in it it's a pretty fast card and gose harder then the XFX FX5900Pro So good luck with your PC

Have fun MOrphous
Deadly-Fly
Posts: 2083
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
From umart
Radeon 9600XT and 9800XT Cards Discontinued 17/06/2004
As the new model Radeon cards have just hit Australian shores the older model cards are not shipping any more. If you have an order in the store for one of these cards please contact one of our friendly staff.
I'd look at getting the vid card elsewhere, umart have never had a very good range in that area anyway. No other retailer I've looked at has mentioned anything similar.
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