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Topic: Video: Innocent guy gets snapped
teq
Posts: 1302
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Source: http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41584

Surgeons General Warning: this s*** gets messy.

Link: define.net.au mirror (car_owned.mpeg) (1459KB)
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d[o_0]b
Posts: 56
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Irhabi
Posts: 1068
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ok works now

Also:

HOLY CRAP!

last edited by Irhabi at 21:13:54 26/Jun/04
d[o_0]b
Posts: 57
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
holy f*** thats dicknasty!


poor dude
Superform
Posts: 1709
Location: Cairns, Queensland
worked when i went to the site... then got it from there...

but u should put a warning on it...

i think the guy gets killed...
Wasabi
Posts: 509
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
For sure he does! thats f***in crazy....poor guy
phathead
Posts: 1490
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
holy hell, thats bad. IF that guy did die, the driver that ran thru the light should be f***ing banned from driving FOR LIFE.
Irhabi
Posts: 1069
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Still i must admit i couldn't but laugh
lmnt
Posts: 1161
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
thats fuqed.

does anyone know if he survived?
[Q]
Posts: 7382
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
ouch. That looked damn painfull. Trying fo figure out whos fault the crash was. Which car had right of way?!?
phathead
Posts: 1491
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yea i just realised that too, but i think the chrysler was in the right because the other car probably wouldnt go through the intersection when that pedestrian was crossing. So the chrysler is in the right imo, but then again i dont have much of an idea.
teq
Posts: 1304
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well by the looks of it, the cars were all stopping .. so the one that kept going through the intersection was in the wrong.

note, the pedestrian could have possibly been crossing illegaly
nF
Posts: 6959
Location: Other International
Is this that same thing that was posted ages ago but not in video form?
teq
Posts: 1305
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The old lady in the mercedes hitting some guy? nah
AvengeR
Posts: 204
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
damn! it's hard to tell what the hell is going on - the first car seems like it is in the wrong yet the car that hits the guy has fair pace up and the guy is just leisurely walking across the street in front of the second car's path.

you would think that he would be trying to put more effort into getting across with a car coming at that pace....maybe that car was going along the inside lane and he thought he would be across enough for it...still that is one time he could have done with more effort into crossing quicker (assuming that he did not have right of way). very odd.
Kaygen
Posts: 4353
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Im gonna think twice now, if i see someone and go "man their face looks like they've just been run over by a car"
Fallen
Posts: 543
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It's hard to tell what's going on without seeing the lights. The cars that are arriving from the top look like they're slowing down for a red light but it's possible they're slowing down out of caution in anticipation of the accident since the car on the right of that pack stops kinda suddenly [you see it shudder].

The car coming in from the right is going pretty quick to slide that far after impact [and to not see/avoid the car flying in from the bottom], too.

I think the car coming from the right went through the red light and the cars coming from the top slowed down either because they saw how fast he was coming and were being cautious, or they had an orange light because the car stopped at the bottom of the screen is about to turn. That would go along with the car that comes from the bottom still having a green light.

In any case, ouch. Poor bugger was scrambling to get out of the way.

edit: Also, it's highly likely the guy was walking leisurely across a big intersection while the walk light was red or flashing, given the action of the traffic.

last edited by Fallen at 23:40:18 26/Jun/04
DigitaL
Posts: 1465
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
woah thats pretty intense.. the video looks sped up a bit looking at the trees in the background. the PT cruiser is at fault. Running a amber/already red light
Booyah
Posts: 729
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Holy s*** man. I dont know how you've got the guts to laugh at that. Pretty horrific if you ask me. No way in the world the guy woulda survived that.

Imagine what was going through his mind that split second he saw the car flying at him. He almost made it across the road too.

hast
Posts: 379
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
almost gets away as well, seems to get hit by the back wheel then gets dragged under
epi.
Posts: 4443
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
he'll be feeling that in the morning

holy hell, thats bad. IF that guy did die, the driver that ran thru the light should be f***ing banned from driving FOR LIFE.


He'd probably be in jail for life ? :)
Booyah
Posts: 731
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Yeah talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Also imagine how unbearable would it be for his mother or his loved ones to watch that video, pretty screwed up :/
WhoopAss
Posts: 6043
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
how real is this? it's not some yankee ad for anti red light running is it?
Reverend Evil
Posts: 8492
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Looks extremely photoshopped to me...not!!

Holy s***. Everyone seemed to get hammered in that.
HeardY
Posts: 10471
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
man that is crazy...

It *could* be fake... not sure
existence`
Posts: 4123
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Rev's frying off his head
HERMITech
Posts: 1175
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
http://www.users.on.net/~thevault/HERMITech/Thread/owned.gif
Macca
Posts: 703
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It doesnt really look too real though... seems to peaceful of a place and too "straight forward"

trees in background look fake too, all swaying perfectly. meh i dunno.

Edit: No one seems to be getting out of their cars to quickly either. Lights a swaying perfect. Suss if you ask me. REAL BAD if its authentic though...


last edited by Macca at 11:15:30 27/Jun/04

last edited by Macca at 11:17:31 27/Jun/04
burt
Posts: 1674
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
how dumb are you to think its fake "oh those trees dont look real enough for me"

that video is final destination sorta s***, his time was up alrite
*Sassy*
Posts: 240
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
looks real to me
the trees are strobeing coz of the poor quality
looks like its windy maybe its a storm and the lights are out
poor dude:/
eK
Posts: 7559
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
man that's pretty harsh, i was like expecting the red car coming towards the camera to hit him or somes***

that came out of nowhere :S
Macca
Posts: 704
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Take it to heart burt u moron... haha big deal i said it looked to "surreal," and questioned its authenticity.

Ohhh noooooo...
Boofe
Posts: 691
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Poor bastard.
Reverend Evil
Posts: 8494
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It could be a fake. Notice when the video starts the kid is already halfway across the road. How did he get there?
nF
Posts: 6966
Location: Other International
Walking.
scuzzy
Posts: 10542
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It could be a fake. Notice when the video starts the kid is already halfway across the road. How did he get there?
I'm going to crush your fake legs with my fake sledge hammer
HERMITech
Posts: 1176
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Ok, who can tell me what colour the traffic lights are?
WhoopAss
Posts: 6047
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
it looks like they're not working, as someone else said. Maybe they're out for a storm or something so no one really knows whos turn it is to go. Still, whenever I walk across a road like that I always look in the direction cars are going to be comming at me from, I'd have started running LONG before then. That's kind of why I asked if it was some sort of advert. Either that guy has no road sense and is really stupid, or it was staged that way. If it's real I feel sorry for him though and hope is loved ones didn't have to watch that video.
Reverend Evil
Posts: 8495
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The kid looked a bit overweight so that's probably why he couldn't move as quick.
clipto
Posts: 1305
Location: Other International
It looks like an advertisement to me.

The way the overturned vehicle's lights flash as they line up with the camera, for the life of me I can't see the ped after he gets hit, very tv friendly, the way the car flips... What is a camera like that doing there at the intersection? Even the way the stationwagon has stopped over the line. I don't know, looks like someone was trying really hard to make it look like your typical intersection. Would explain why the lights dont work too.

But I really don't know, where did the thread creator get the video, is car_owned.mpeg its original title?

Oh btw, does anyone think the ped could of leaped over the car if he put everything into it? I think he could of just made it, even if the car still clipped him he would of come off better.

last edited by clipto at 15:01:38 27/Jun/04
stick
Posts: 2510
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
It could be a fake. Notice when the video starts the kid is already halfway across the road. How did he get there?

LMAO HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHA and I just read
The kid looked a bit overweight so that's probably why he couldn't move as quick.


BAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
nF
Posts: 6968
Location: Other International
Wow, looks like CSI now has a QGL division.
stick
Posts: 2511
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The guy does look like he tries to run at the end though:( Poor bastard.
Booyah
Posts: 740
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My first reaction to that was "oh s*** that's so bad"

Other people's reaction "yep fake".

You know there is actually some authentic s*** out there.

Gronks.
fpot
Posts: 9333
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
nah it's a fake man because (contrived reason here).
clipto
Posts: 1308
Location: Other International
I don't know why you guys are bothered that people baselessly assume its fake. Assuming something is incorrect/wrong/fake until its proven otherwise is a cornerstone of our legal system, just about any scientific process worth its salt, and f*** knows whatever else.

Isnt there some rule that 99% of stuff on the internet is fake trash? I see something similar to that being thrown around this forum all the time.

There was no time stamp on the video either, thats unusual.
Booyah
Posts: 743
Location: Brisbane, Queensland

Well if someday someone records my death and it ends up being called a fake than ill be mega pissed off.
nF
Posts: 6970
Location: Other International
Planning on hitting some skyscrapers eh?
g0t bea[n]
Posts: 257
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nah it's a fake man because (contrived reason here)

Hmm, good point there
Mantra
Posts: 622
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
The mirror seems to be down again... Or am I going to feel ill after seeing it so i shouldn't bother?
Suhaib
Posts: 2025
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
click on the boostcruising link., there is another link.

last edited by Suhaib at 09:13:35 28/Jun/04
Mantra
Posts: 623
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
That's down as well.. was probably too popular for the poor people hosting them or something :)
Suhaib
Posts: 2026
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i downloaded it, just before you posted :)

you just suck mantra!
Mantra
Posts: 624
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
No, my proxy here at work sucks... pfft.. stupid proxy...
BoBa
Posts: 1461
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Looks like an ad of some sorts
Einstein
Posts: 3131
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yeah he's dead

the car at the bottom of the vid ran a red light basically

and the other car anticipated green

unless the switching system is really gay over there, then that's what looks like happened
möoby
Posts: 1983
Location: UK
yeah, looks like the guy ran a red. In the uk, as soon as one set are red, the other is pretty much green. Looks like a US video tho. Cant rember what they where like there.

One thing tho... its a pretty high res video. I guess a red light cam would have high res but would it be filming and not just taking some snaps on a red light run?

last edited by möoby at 18:19:50 28/Jun/04
nF
Posts: 6971
Location: Other International
Just look at the video frame rate if its 30 its american.
Booyah
Posts: 749
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
In the uk, as soon as one set are red, the other is pretty much green

the car at the bottom of the vid ran a red light basically

and the other car anticipated green


Wouldn't it be wise to delay the green light at least 3 seconds after it turns red on the other set of lights ? Like what they do here in australia ? How stupid. An accident of that nature was bound to happen sooner or later.
clipto
Posts: 1311
Location: Other International
Wouldn't it be wise to delay the green light at least 3 seconds after it turns red on the other set of lights ? Like what they do here in australia ? How stupid. An accident of that nature was bound to happen sooner or later.


Or we could set it to 5, or 10, or 20 seconds!
Booyah
Posts: 752
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
umm... 3 would suffice thanks.
clipto
Posts: 1313
Location: Other International
Are you stupid?

Wouldn't it be wise to delay the green light at least 5 seconds after it turns red on the other set of lights? Like what they do in Uzbekistan? An accident of that nature is bound to happen sooner or later without a 5 second delay you know.
Booyah
Posts: 753
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
There's a difference between a 3 second delay and no delay. From what's been mentioned, that accident was a result of no delay after the red light, and the vehicle anticipating the green ran into the vechile running the red (or vice versa). Not many people would try and run through a red light 5 seconds after it turns red.

You f***ing half twit.

clipto
Posts: 1315
Location: Other International
There's a difference between a 5 second delay and a 3 second delay. From what's been mentioned, that accident was a result of no traffic lights being turned on, and the vehicle failing to anticipate the other vechile.

Not many people would try and run through a red light 5 seconds after it turns red.


Agreed, thats why I suggested delaying the lights by that amount!

You f***ing half twit.

last edited by clipto at 20:08:47 28/Jun/04
Booyah
Posts: 754
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
gawd.

0 second delay = accident

3 second delay = Would have prevented the accident

5 second delay = no need, there's the 3 second delay already in place... but if that's not long enough for you than wait another minute there just to be on the safe side.

You f***ing quarter twit.
möoby
Posts: 1987
Location: UK
I guess the time of delay is to reduce traffic. Also, the lights turn red+amber just before green. So you can anticipate a go.

The other thing to rember (well in london anyway) the average speed of traffic. I read an article today that the average speed of a major london road (forget which one) was about 5kms / hr.
clipto
Posts: 1316
Location: Other International
gawd.

0 second delay = Higer chance of an accident.

3 second delay = Might statistically prevent more accidents.

5 second delay = Might statistically prevent more accidents still.

10 second delay = Perhaps EVEN MORE.

The point, is there is going to be accidents on the road. Every so often people demand we go slower, wait longer, where does it end? Don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question.
Booyah
Posts: 757
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
My point is: ANY DELAY IS BETTER THAN NO DELAY FFS.

Also quit copy pastin my posts !

last edited by Booyah at 20:58:56 28/Jun/04
lmnt
Posts: 1168
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
im leaning towards it being real, who would waste their time making a fake and why would they bother.
AvengeR
Posts: 210
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
mate the 3 sec delay here makes a big difference with some of the knobs driving on the roads

RE: clipto's last post

last edited by AvengeR at 21:01:56 28/Jun/04
Redundant
Posts: 1
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
oMg! that is seriously disturbing...


nF
Posts: 6975
Location: Other International
If you drive a gemini you don't need delays.
clipto
Posts: 1317
Location: Other International
My point is: ANY DELAY IS BETTER THAN NO DELAY FFS.


And my point is, a 5 second delay is "better" than a 3. See how silly it, and by extension your suggestion is?

Also quit copy pastin my posts !


I thought copy/pasting your posts except changing a few numbers articulated my point really well.

mate the 3 sec delay here makes a big difference with some of the knobs driving on the roads


AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU WILLING TO SACRIFICE ON OUR ROADS JUST SO YOU DONT HAVE TO WAIT AT THE LIGHTS FOR 2 EXTRA SECONDS?

To reiterate, again, its dumb to increase waiting times, people will just keep wanting to increase them. When the lights are yellow, you stop or continue based on what is safe, when the lights are red, you stop, its simple. If people ignore them now, they will only be more prone to ignore them if we increase waiting times.

im leaning towards it being real, who would waste their time making a fake and why would they bother.


It would make a fantastic road safety add.
nF
Posts: 6976
Location: Other International
Actually i'm pretty sure most lights have a 2 second delay.
Fallen
Posts: 546
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
When the lights are yellow, you stop or continue based on what is safe, when the lights are red, you stop


Apparently over the past few months the police are supposed to have been more stringent in regards to running orange lights. Anyone copped that? I mean, the law always has been [as far as I know] if you have time and it's safe to slow down at an orange light you have to stop, but I've never really seen it enforced.

Doesn't seem to stop people trying to run that orange light in its final nanosecond of illumination.
Paveway-3
Posts: 1201
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
1/8 twit
clipto
Posts: 1318
Location: Other International
Doesn't seem to stop people trying to run that orange light in its final nanosecond of illumination.


Thats because we have a 3 second wait befor the other guys light turns green, so why not run it? But to answer your question I havent seen anything like you mention.

1/8 twit


To avoid confusion, maybe you should edit in "I am a". Better yet, put it in your sig or make a new thread about your self appraisal.

last edited by clipto at 21:24:25 28/Jun/04
AvengeR
Posts: 213
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
To reiterate, again, its dumb to increase waiting times, people will just keep wanting to increase them.


Then why do you keep harping on about 5 sec delays?

Btw do you really think they would show something like that on TV?
AvengeR
Posts: 214
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Actually i'm pretty sure most lights have a 2 second delay.


Come to think of it, 2 secs seems right.
clipto
Posts: 1319
Location: Other International
Then why do you keep harping on about 5 sec delays?


Well you see, my posts were pretty much word for word the same as the other guys, its just that I had demanded even higher wait times with the exact same logic as his. It should of been obvious when I suggested 20 second wait times at the lights. Ideally this shows how nonsensical increasing wait times are.

Btw do you really think they would show something like that on TV?


Other ads shown already have seemed far more graphic don't you think? That being said I dunno, I have no single great reason why I doubt its real, just a skeptic sometimes I guess.

+ 1 vote for Australia already having 3 second delays.
Booyah
Posts: 760
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Look clipto i know what you're saying when you say "BUT WHERE DOES THE WAITING END !!"

But are you telling me if that traffic light system had actually implemented a delay (3 or 5 WHATEVER) than the accident STILL could NOT have been prevented ? how many fatalities do you expect to see on the road before you're convinced the THE DELAY IS GOOD ? Im sure if an accident such as that did happen to someone related to you then you'd be all for any delay no matter how long it would be.

Besdies, go all the way down Cracknel rd until you hit the set of lights at Ipswich Rd and you'll find the delay is almost close to 5 seconds. Maybe more of the same accident did happen down there or something i dunno. If you're so caught about not willing to wait a few seconds than just never go through the same traffic light again.
AvengeR
Posts: 216
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Other ads shown already have seemed far more graphic don't you think?


Dunno the other graphic ones I can think of off the top of my head are the reverse light and dark ones, but that sort of tones it down, this vid was pretty explicit, if from somewhat of a distance.

Now I'm confused about the delay time 2,3 secs or inbetween?
nF
Posts: 6977
Location: Other International
Someone time the lights next time they have to stop, i'm certain its 2 seconds. Also, apparently the reason for cracking down on yellow light runners is cause of all the people speeding up before they go through. Its safer to just roll over the line for a red than go caining through to grab the yellow.
Booyah
Posts: 761
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I think it's 3. Time it next time if you really wanted to know.
AvengeR
Posts: 217
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hmm i remember a mate telling me once count to two at lights then launch it which seems to be spot on (when i have tried it)
nF
Posts: 6978
Location: Other International
You're gay booyah.
clipto
Posts: 1320
Location: Other International
But are you telling me if that traffic light system had actually implemented a delay (3 or 5 WHATEVER) than the accident STILL could NOT have been prevented ?


AFAIK no one has definitively established the state of the lights in this video. At no point have I so much as alluded to if this particular accident could of been prevented, I (baselessly) doubt its even real.

how many fatalities do you expect to see on the road before you're convinced the THE DELAY IS GOOD ? Im sure if an accident such as that did happen to someone related to you then you'd be all for any delay no matter how long it would be.


This is why your argument sucks. I have said this exact same thing in this very thread, in the hope that you would be able to understand how stupid your justification for increasing wait times is, and you just don't get it. Answer me this, why don't we increase wait times for 20 seconds to save lives?
Makaveli
Posts: 1099
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
f*** that's gotta hurt, alot.
Booyah
Posts: 762
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
What you wanna wait another 20 seconds until the light goes red again ? you'll never move off the mark.

Quoting myself:

Wouldn't it be wise to delay the green light at least 3 seconds after it turns red on the other set of lights ? Like what they do here in australia
I was never talking about "increasing" the wait time here in australia but i was talking about the set of lights there in london or whereever it is saying they need introduce the delay there which could've prevented the accident.
fpot
Posts: 9337
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
It would make a fantastic road safety add.
Yeh, I am sure the government would screen a road safety ad where the lights (that they are responsible for) f*** up and cause a death.

Perhaps they should sign you up clipto.
clipto
Posts: 1322
Location: Other International
What you wanna wait another 20 seconds until the light goes red again ? you'll never move off the mark.


Your avoiding a really simple question. Instead of being red for everyone for 3 seconds, they would be red for 20, then green for whatever, then red for 20, how do you justify not having a 20 second wait if it will save lives?

i was talking about the set of lights there in london or whereever it is saying they need introduce the delay there which could've prevented the accident.


Paying attention to the stop lights (assuming they were working), would have prevented the accident, making sure there was no oncoming traffic would have prevented the accident. Increasing the delay of the green light from close to zero by three seconds could have too, but only because the car was passing through the intersection at that specific time, if he was 3 seconds later then theres no reason to believe he wouldn't of passed straight through anyway, knowing full well there was a 3 second delay.

Furthermore, there only difference between a close to 0 delay and a 3 second delay is close to 3 seconds, theres no other difference. I don't know why you say "introduce" instead of "increase".

Yeh, I am sure the government would screen a road safety ad where the lights (that they are responsible for) f*** up and cause a death.


It would of been a practice run.

But seriously they could have different angles showing the lights, or they could just edit it in later, I'm guessing the lights are in fact on, its just the angle of the camera.

Perhaps they should sign you up clipto.


I wouldn't of been able to resist the urge to leap over the car as I previously suggested, I mean really, how cool would that be?

last edited by clipto at 23:21:21 28/Jun/04
Superform
Posts: 1746
Location: Cairns, Queensland
well as a bike rider... i can tell you i never pass through an intersection without looking ... and i dun care what the colour of the light is...


ppl place there lives in the hands of lights or paint on a road...

use your common sense...

paint on a road or a light in the sky aint gonna save your life if someone has ignored it...

natural selection at its best...
clipto
Posts: 1323
Location: Other International
Agreed, except about the natural selection bit, those cars could of been packed with brilliant passengers screaming "dont go through the lights!". Not to mention the pedestrian.
rolo_tomasi
Posts: 122
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
werd superform
typo
Posts: 3339
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
well as a bike rider... i can tell you i never pass through an intersection without looking ... and i dun care what the colour of the light is...



As a Car driver I do exactly the same thing.

The moral of this story is that the majority of people on the roads drive like f***ing morons.
Reverend Evil
Posts: 8502
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Instead of losing points for speeding your should get that amount in fingers cut off. Might teach people to slow down about.
clipto
Posts: 1324
Location: Other International
That would work really well, seeing as they can put fingers back on later, but getting your points back is a bitch.
z0r
Posts: 744
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^bwahahaha
But i agree with revs.
Also, having just watched the video, HOLY f***.
Buck Nasty
Posts: 142
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Its called a farking licence because you are deemed competent to drive. A pause between red and green is the same of what is expected of you when approaching a green light from afar and it is green all the way - it is called "stale green". No bulls*** excuses for running the red!!!
clipto
Posts: 1327
Location: Other International
Its called a farking licence because you are deemed competent to drive.


It's called a license because it designates you as being legally entitled to drive on the roads. Competency has nothing to do with why its called a license.

A pause between red and green is the same of what is expected of you when approaching a green light from afar and it is green all the way - it is called "stale green". No bulls*** excuses for running the red!!!


What the hell are you talking about?
imitation
Posts: 2246
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Interesting side note, to stop people running yellows in ACT there red light cameras also have speed cameras built in, so you try to race the yellow and get done for speeding....ingenious government revenue raising.
Psycho!
Posts: 4096
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
..ingenious government revenue raising.


or an attempt to stop tards killing themsleves or innocent people?
clipto
Posts: 1328
Location: Other International
or an attempt to stop tards killing themsleves or innocent people?


I agree with the other guy's opinion that its revenue raising, but don't you at least think its more of an attempt to not appear soft on speeding? What do you think is more important to "them"?
Booyah
Posts: 773
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Money ofcourse. They've seen plenty of fatalities on the roads and i think they're getting used to it.
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