FireFox v0.9 has just been released: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

In the past I've been a pretty big IE advocate, but the fact that FireFox is just so much goddamn faster, plus the fact that it is so less vulnerable to the stupid problems IE is, I made the switch to FireFox a while ago and haven't looked back (well, haven't looked back much; there are still some IE-specific things that don't work well).

I'm sure v0.9 will be even more rad, so give it a go. Encourage your more unco friends and family to use it as well; it will save you zillions of hours in tech support trying to teach them how to install Ad Aware and SpyBot after their computer has been reamed.

Update: v0.9.1 has been released - grab it now from the same URL above, AusGamers or BigPond Files (for BigPond broadband users only).

Its fkn heaps faster local and o/s. Also got good downloads from the mozilla page itself, 150-200kb/s

Firefox now comes with the pin stripe theme for Mac which makes it look like a native application. Very sexy.

The newly released Mozilla Firefox 0.8 has a new look on Mac OS X. It is the first Firefox milestone to be released with the Pinstripe theme as the default. Here are a few screen shots.

Stolen from the webpage. It says its for .8 will it work with 0.9?

The 0.9 build for the mac should come with the pin stripe theme default.

Using it now, seems pretty good.

Had to remember my passwords for a few sites though >_<

I've been using Firefox for the past couple of months and only have a couple of gripes with it.

- I can't do my internet banking, for some reason it hates the St George site, I've allowed the popups for it etc and a bunch of other crap but it will never load under firefox so I have to use IE, I've probably just overlooked something but oh well.

- GIF's slow the f*** out of the browser, especially when scrolling with the mousewheel. Thats my biggest gripe.

- Had to reinstall Quicktime to get any embedded sounds to play (sounds like it may be a blessing in disguise but its not)

- PDF's will crash any time I try and open them under Firefox - huge pain in the arse as I have a s***load of PDF's from uni.


maybe this new version has fixed some of my dramas!

- PDF's will crash any time I try and open them under Firefox - huge pain in the arse as I have a s***load of PDF's from uni.

Are you using Adobe reader v.6?..I have used Firefox since v7 and all .pdf's I view open faultlessly using that reader launching from Firefox.

Adobe Acrobat 6.0 Professional

Full version etc

hmmm wierd that is...

hmm will have to update mine when I get home in the morning.

the only thing i really dont like is its not very good for downloading or viewing large image archives.

apart from that its just a browser.

I don't get any problems with PDFs and FireFox

great, it's fixed the bodgey page caching, now it's uber fast

the only thing i really dont like is its not very good for downloading or viewing large image archives.

100% true. Good browser apart from that ;<

PDF's will crash any time I try and open them under Firefox - huge pain in the arse as I have a s***load of PDF's from uni.

with me i only have problem closing pdf, if i open them in FireFox but i just got 0.9 and will test ti to see if i still get that problem, also i am using Acrobat Reader 6

Edit:
just tested it...Nope not Fixed still freezs for about 5-10mins when i try to close the tab(or if no tab just the window) that has the pdf loaded in it, and also dose it if i click back when a pdf is loaded in that window...its a bit of a pain but FireFox still rules, all this means is i have to download the pdf to my hdd instead...and the doesnt really bother me.

FireFox rules everone that doesnt have it get it, get it now.....

last edited by Irhabi at 01:12:26 16/Jun/04

anyone else using opera get awsome lag when typing in the edit page of this place? I can type just fine and the text appears as I type it here, but if I try to edit my post, opera lags to hell. Happens on a few other sites too.

with me i only have problem closing pdf, if i open them in FireFox but i just got 0.9 and will test ti to see if i still get that problem, also i am using Acrobat Reader 6

I used to have that problem but now it is fixed???

I still don't know what problems with pdf people are having. I have never had any problems loading or closing pdfs and I run firebird on both my desktop and laptop computers, and I use firebird exclusivly at uni on both mac and pc. I never have any problems with pdfs.

The only problem I have is with the download manager, but I uninstalled it and re-installed it and now it works perfectly.

I personally hate Firefox!, I prefer net captor

The only big problem I have with FireFox is that the clipboard intermittently fails - trying to do a copy and paste and you end up with an empty clipboard (even if you cut!). As I spent half my day copying and pasting s*** out of browsers, it is a huge pain in the ass. I was hoping this would be fixed in v0.9 but if anything it seems to be even worse :(

It may just be me, but some downloads through firefox seem to be slower than through IE. On a few occassions I've started the same download at the same time (actually giving firefox a headstart) and IE still beats it. It's probably just me though.

We have been using Firefox at work for unsecured terminals .. ie. kiosk style browsers becuase its a thousand times more configurable then IE and its a hell of alot more secure.

I think you are having problems with firefox and pdfs because acrobat/firefox asks you if you are sure when you close them.

I always open pdfs in a new window rather than tab, then you can see the click box if it asks you.

firefox rocks, though i had the same problems with RC2 of 0.9 as i had with the pre0.8 RC's. Hopefully 0.9 fixed them like 0.8 did :)

PDF's will crash any time I try and open them under Firefox - huge pain in the arse as I have a s***load of PDF's from uni.

I had the same problem. Try this:

Tools -> Options -> Downloads

Under File types, find PDF and point it to Acrobat reader (which you should have installed on your PC)

Also click on the Plugins button and disable any PDF plugins.

When you click on a PDF file, it should now download it and launch Acrobat Reader in it's own program window as opposed to launching it in the browser.

man - i installed it today

firebird rocks, nice n fast

(only used it for 3mins)

whats the shortcut key to open something in a new tab, like shift clicking links in ie opens in new window - is there a way to do that into a new tab at all?

Middle-click links, and try Tools Options -> Advanced. Check Open Links in background if you so desire.

Sorry if it doesn't work. I've done some heavy modifications and can't tell whether some features were from plugins or built into firefox.

wikkid, thanks :)

Is there any way to disable the middle mouse click opening new tabs?

i dont see how it can be faster than IE

my ie is way faster than i am already

Is there any way to disable the middle mouse click opening new tabs?

about:config in the address bar, and change middlemouse.openNewWindow to false

Encourage your more unco friends and family to use it as well; it will save you zillions of hours in tech support trying to teach them how to install Ad Aware and SpyBot after their computer has been reamed.

this is blatant stagrrr bashing.

Ok, it IS super fast, compared to what I normally use (Crazy Browser, built on the IE rendering engine) but 1 thing drives me crazy - it doesn't open favorites in new tabs by default.

Any way to change this?

it doesn't open favorites in new tabs by default

One solution:

Get the Tabbrowser extension

then Tab -> Tabbrowser Extensions Preferences

Under Advanced Use, tick Any bookmark

whats the shortcut key to open something in a new tab, like shift clicking links in ie opens in new window - is there a way to do that into a new tab at all?

hold down ctrl and then click on the link also works with you're bookmarks
or ctrl + T opens a new blank tab

last edited by Irhabi at 16:11:55 16/Jun/04

Bah I installed the new version and lost all my extensions, and the theme I was using, and now I can't find the theme again

honestly, who uses theme's on webbrowsers?

Boba does ?

lol booyah :)

Bah I installed the new version and lost all my extensions, and the theme I was using, and now I can't find the theme again

yeah i had an extension that realoaded the page for me every 30sec or wat ever i set it to but now i lost it :( oh well back to manully refreshing the forum..

last edited by Irhabi at 18:44:56 16/Jun/04

Space Ninja: try downloading one of the multiple User Agent extensions that allow you to change FireFox's useragent string and thus fool websites into thinking you're using IE or something. I've found this often works well with internet banking because the sites do a UserAgent check so that you don't use an "incompatible" browser. This is annoying because Firefox is probably the most standards compliant browser there is.

Also Tab Extensions is a must have if you use Firefox, among other things it allows you to set a tab to reload every X seconds.

Also for anyone who's changed to Firefox and liked it, i suggest that you try Thunderbird, it does everything OE does except it does them better, doesn't have the same vulnerabilities becaues it doesn't use the IE HTML core and has in built junk mail filtering which i've found works damn well.

Thanks guys, I'm playing with the tabbing extensions now (as well as a couple of others).

St George banking direct link:

https://ibank.stgeorge.com.au/html/index.asp?redirected=True

(The ?redirected=True part makes all the difference when I try it. I'm not with St George btw but my dad is)


last edited by parabol at 18:45:01 16/Jun/04

Ok, I'm stumped. I've tried importing my bookmarks/favourites from Opera, yet they don't appear. WTF?

Anyone ?
An yes, I've tried the import wizard an it doesn't do squat. Hell, I've even looked at the help files !

It's awesome. The only problem I had was that it wipes all my bookmarks :( Luckily they weren't important.

Also for anyone who's changed to Firefox and liked it, i suggest that you try Thunderbird, it does everything OE does except it does them better, doesn't have the same vulnerabilities becaues it doesn't use the IE HTML core and has in built junk mail filtering which i've found works damn well.

Yeah, Thunderbird is ace.

^^^ Evolution does the job for me :)

So where does one save themes to use with firefox =|

I couldn't get evolution to work with maildir folders, yet even pine could. :(

Also, you just save the theme to disk anywhere you want, then fire up thunderbird, then go import theme and point to the file.

last edited by nF at 20:16:09 16/Jun/04

Firefox we are talking about.. i cant find any option to import themes =/

Goto tools -> themes then in the themes options there is a link, get themes.

Hmm, One site has suggested that I use "BookmarkPriest" which exports from Opera to IE then to use the standard Mozilla import function.

Sounded good until I tried it tho, as it creates a bunch of folders that are numbered an when you click on any of these HTML links, you get sent on a dodgy Google search using Keywords contained in the previous headers...

Dammit, there has to be an easier way

protius-x i know that but when i download them it just says to save them and firefox doesnt open them =/

Well im happy with the download i just got 4.73mb in one second...

Well i find out you have to goto their site and in the help thing there is a small option that lets you browse for the file and click "install". Weird how its not implemented into the program =/

Anyway heres the site if anyone else is wondering: http://texturizer.net/firefox/themes/

last edited by Andrewus at 20:47:32 16/Jun/04

What the hell is all these problems you speak of, I never have any problems with firefox apart from the banking site ones cause they usually pop-up another window which is stupid dev by the bank in my eyes.

That copy & paste error wtf are you talking about i copy and paste all the time without flaw, maybe its your ram again trog :P

If you want to install themes offline, just go to the themes website http://texturizer.net/firefox/themes and save the page. Now you can do it offline if u have dialup.

last edited by Se7eN at 12:01:11 17/Jun/04

Also, when I click on links in IRC it opens a whole new window for them instead of loading them in my currently active tab :(

does it still crash if you leave it running for a few days without using it?

trog that tabbrowser extension parabol linked has a fix for that.

fknsweetass, thanks pk - even opens them in new tabs now, rock on!

Also, when I click on links in IRC it opens a whole new window for them instead of loading them in my currently active tab :(

i like that because more often than not those links distract you off into other lines of browsing anyways.

if not u can nuke em straight away no harm done.

it wont even open for me :|

well my f***ing firefix doesn;t even load, crashes EVERYTIME!!!

back to IE for the moment, it was fun for what a day or so...

did you check for that problem on bugzilla? and post it if it hadn't happened to anyone else yet?

nope - how do i do that?

it gives me a windows xp error log/box thing

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

maens, it doesn't give me an error...

Will take a screen shot for you :)

it does give you an error - it even tells you the exact address it breaks at... give that to the firefox dev team, and they'll be able to track down the exact line of code (and if they can't they shouldn't be on the firefox dev team), and find out wtf is wrong and hopefully whether it's a bug or just a dodgy config issue on your machine (either way it's a bug - it shouldn't gpf because of a dodgy config)

http://www.alsodongs.com/1/firefox_error1.jpg
http://www.alsodongs.com/1/firefox_error2.jpg
http://www.alsodongs.com/1/firefox_error3.jpg

does it still crash if you leave it running for a few days without using it?

Previous versions have taken a little while to start up again when you go back to a sleeping machine with tabs open, but i wouldn't call that crashing.

Looks like an access violation in in the ms C runtime. Probably means a dodgy pointer getting passed to a function.

natslovR - i used to get that - then a gpf after it looked like it was coming back - this was on 0.8 though

HeardY - mail the contents of that textbox with the module info to eldemino@iinet.net.au

eldemino, that's teh thing, I can't actually cut and paste that text :/

Nor locate the file it says it created

Your xp is a tad busted then

Your xp is a tad busted then

Does it come in any other form?

lol

doesn't help me though ;)

Might be time for a format anyways.... !s

just delete ur firefox directory and reinstall - it will probably work.

for the above error:

1. make sure u back up bookmarks.html in your profile. everything else (besides passwords) can be easily downloaded again.

2. delete both phoenix and firefox directories in my documents/application data folders

restart firefox witrh no problems

phoenix is the old profile directory, firefox holds the new profile. as long as you have backed up your profile directory from 0.8 you should be able to uninstall, delete whatever you want until it works.

i also found that installing themes causes a lot of headaches with this version so you may wanna skip it (although pinball is working ok)

as always RTFM can help.

last edited by infiNex at 22:51:22 17/Jun/04

That trick to disable the middle mouse opening new tabs didn't work

nice to know about that about:config page anyway!!

I've just made the switch from IE to Firefox since 0.9 came out and I'm very impressed. Might have to give the rest of the suite a go.

I think there should be an International Standards Organisation for web-browsers that makes all web-browsers display webpages the same way, and doesn't just have support for IE.

Frankly I don't like IE, I want to be able to use other browsers without having to be dependant on IE.

I think there should be an International Standards Organisation for web-browsers that makes all web-browsers display webpages the same way, and doesn't just have support for IE.

Is the W3C what you are talking about?

Anyway, the standards are there. Microsoft chose to support most of them, whereas many of the other browsers tried to be completely compliant. Hence IE displays many pages incorrectly (as opposed to opera/mozilla displaying them incorrectly which many believe)

Many times browser programmers were faced with a choice of whether to keep compliance or whether to mimic Microsoft's broken implementations to make the pages look the same on their browser vs IE.

It's sad really.

last edited by parabol at 11:24:26 18/Jun/04

Has anyone tried Avant browser?

Thats what I use, and it rocks your mums s***stained jocks.

Its especially good for surfing porn. Turn off all javascript, active x, flash and its just pure poontang!

yeah themes are f***ed in 0.9

you wouldn't read about it - firefox decided to work tonight....

haven't rebooted my pc at all either - seems silly

I think there should be an International Standards Organisation for web-browsers that makes all web-browsers display webpages the same way, and doesn't just have support for IE.

At first I thought you were being sarcastic, you describe W3C down to a tee.

Then I read it again.

May god have mercy on us all...

grr smoothwheel isnt supported by firefox 0.9 yet!

this is seriously the best extension and the main reason i used firefox. i hope smoothwheel releases a new version asap otherwise ill have to go back to 0.8 :(

otherwise all is good, the new default theme is nice :)

ps: http://smoothwheel.mozdev.org/ for scrolling bliss

W3C doesn't make standards, they make recommendations.

Well i just found out then when running dual monitors, firefox displays drop down boxes (like right click somewhere or any drop down box) are displayed on the primary monitor, not the monitor that firefox is on =S

The only big problem I have with FireFox is that the clipboard intermittently fails - trying to do a copy and paste and you end up with an empty clipboard (even if you cut!). As I spent half my day copying and pasting s*** out of browsers, it is a huge pain in the ass. I was hoping this would be fixed in v0.9 but if anything it seems to be even worse :(

Really, I don't have any problems :/ I've been using a copy image to clipboard plugin though.

I'm not happy with the update, for some reason it seems slower for me.

especially when it loads pages with images.

I've been using IE this morning and its been running much better :/

holy goddam, firefox is so much faster than IE

better than myie2 as well
i use this now. kthxbi

v0.9.1 has now been released, download it from AusGamers or BigPond Files (for BigPond broadband users only).

last edited by trog at 09:37:33 30/Jun/04

i'm gonna wait for a patch... or for a better version...

8 works for me... and if it aint broke ...

well i just made the change from IE to firefox, and honestly see no real differance, if anything firefox seems slower. also, i have no idea where google toolbar is, i guess i could prbly find it if i looked but i cbf. so i'll prbly go back to IE.

also, i have no idea where google toolbar is, i guess i could prbly find it if i looked but i cbf. so i'll prbly go back to IE.

Its the thing in the toolbars with the google logo on it :)

yeh but the actual tool bar has other stuff, its not just a quick search thing.

For the first time I installed FireFox the other day to see how good it was. I'm quite disappointed.
MyIE2 has from what I can see in reference to flexibility, more options and features.

I'm not normally a person who likes to have HEAPS of options to go though and spend hours figuring out what each of them do...But damn! FireFox has s*** all from what I can see; especially so with things like, ‘Tab preferences’ compared to that of the options available to me in MyIE2.

So in short, this, plus a combination of other factors, like my pictures not displaying...I've concluded for now that FireFox is too tacky for my liking.

I'm also a person to like customising my interfaces fully.
So for now, MyIE2 > FireFox

Firefox 0.9.1 is up now, no news on any changes from v 0.9 tho.

last edited by Psycho! at 01:46:37 01/Jul/04

I'm also a person to like customising my interfaces fully.
So for now, MyIE2 > FireFox

firefox has pretty good costimasition of its interface... its just a bit tricky to impliment... takes a 3rd party plugin called chrome i think... then its very customizable...