hi in the next couple weeks im get new puter so i came up with this..

Intel Pentium 4-2.8GHz 800FSB Socket 478 CPU

ASUS P4S800 Pentium 4 Motherboard

512Mb DDR PC3200 RAM

1.44M Floppy Disk Drive

80G Western Digital 7200rpm HDD 8M cache

17" Samsung 785MB Flat CRT Monitor

Xsonic ATX Case silver/beige/black

Windows PS2 Keyboard

LiteOn 52X/32X/52X IDE CD Writer Kit

Altec Lansing 621 Speakers

$1370 from computer alliance

i cant really go over $1400
i got network card, sound card, vid card already and mouse

hows this sound

get a really decent power supply, don't get a cheapass one if that's what comes with the case, better to get a case without a PSU and buy a good PSU seperage.

id buy it from the back of a truck before computer alliance
try umart for better prices and service

sif Intel, Buy AMD

I brought a cheap $45 case and power supply 18 months ago 300watt it runs a duron system with stock fan, 1 hdd and 1 cd without a problem, most problems will only occur if you run heaps of devices off the power supply and say the monitor as well.

As for your system, do you get a graphics card with that?

tomshardware (yes, i know they can be bought) had imo a good article about choices when buying a new chip.

the question - is intels price difference worth the performance difference. In all, no - not at all!!

They recommend a 2600+ which easily pumps to a 3200+ with a 200fsb which would really squeeze that extra juice for performance.

Recently I've been wanting to get a p4 for the HT thingo, but the price is just such a turn off. Also the 'relatively new' (or as new can be in today's world) VIA KT600 chipset is pretty schmiko too, most with onboard sound,nic,sata and ect. A dual mem controller means little unless your gonna get two sticks of memory.

So just for the sake of it, check out the prices of a 2600 and a good motherboard for overclocking (i think ASUS A7n8x was a fav, but gigabyte kt600IEEE one is good too, and no onboard vid so you can chuck a vid card in, an if $$ is no thing, then pay 30 more and get epox which i hear is the bee's knees of the kt600 boards)

oh, and yes - umart, cheapest in almost everything and very good service (thou i'm sure some of you have had bad experiences)

In case your that stupid, he already has a graphics card....

im with superboss
amd > those other brands

In case your that stupid, he already has a graphics card....

DOH!

ya i got a gf4 ti4400 cant be bothered getting a new vid card this one will do.

ill have a look at umart, its just computer alliance had that thing on the site where u select the parts and it adds it up for you
but then if i said GAMEDUDE you would probably all rape me and turn this into a tech shop war/gamedude flame thread :P

id easily shop at gamedude before computer alliance

actually, id go without computer parts rather than shop at computer alliance

the system looks good to me :D

up the ram to 1 gig, geil ram is good, get a matched pair ram as well i.e. twin ultra..

most problems will only occur if you run heaps of devices off the power supply and say the monitor as well

Monitor sockets on the back of a power supply are pass through.

I second the recommendation of a quality power supply for a powerful PC like the one you are going to get. Antec and Enermax are high quality brands.

I brought a cheap $45 case and power supply 18 months ago 300watt it runs a duron system with stock fan, 1 hdd and 1 cd without a problem, most problems will only occur if you run heaps of devices off the power supply and say the monitor as well.

A P4 2.8 is nowhere near a duron system

I would third a decent PSU, especially as a p4 system would be a lot more exxy than an AMD system to replace if the PSU decided to eat it all :)

Power Supply Antec 300W SOL
hows this sound ? is 300w enough ?
ill probly have 2 hdds + the burner and floppy thats about it maybe a dvd drive later on

i added this and im proly going to get it from umart now because its much closer and cheaper

price now is $1337 thats pretty 1337

i added this and im proly going to get it from umart now because its much closer and cheaper

my work here is done

300W is enough. i ran a yumcha 300w power supply that had

• p4 @ 1.8volts
• 2 hard drives
• 2 optical drives
• 2 neons
• 2 banks of leds
• 3 fans
• about 4 PCI devices
• 3 usb devices

but that really isn't recommended without a good power supply

a 300w antec should be fine. because there's 300w, then there's 300w antec/enermax

Same as others have suggested , get a good PSU. I recently bought an Enermax 550w jobbie to supply heaps of juice for the 9800XT and my god its rock solid, you could power a small town with it. $$ but very much worth it. Antec tru blue 480w are cheaper and reportedly also excellent psu's.

heh, 550W is sufficient to run a high-powered 12V compressor (ala Vapochill) as well as a fully kitted out PC :P

A quality 300W should be enough, otherwise 350W or 400W would provide a bit of headroom.

rofl 500w power supply

its only a sticker man

Intel S478 Pentium 4 2.8GHZ 800MHZ FSB CPU $334
Gigabyte 8IPE1000 Pro2 865PE Motherboar $155
GeIL 512M PC3200 400MHz DDR SDRAM $145
Panasonic 1.44 Floppy $22
Seagate Serial ATA 80GB 7200RPM+Free SATA Power cable $131
Liteon DVD+CDRW Combo Drive 48X48X24X16 $89
Samsung CRT Flat 17 inch 785MB $219
Mitsubishi PS2 Keyboard $25
Deluxe 350W ATX Midi tower case $75
Altec Lansing 621 Speaker system $209

Price =$1404

Meh intel is for hardcore development and extreme multi-tasking other than that an AMD would do you fine.

AMD Athlon™ XP Barton Core 2800+ CPU Retail $232
Gigabyte 7VT6001394 KT600 Motherboard $115
GeIL 512M PC3200 400MHz DDR SDRAM $145
Panasonic 1.44 Floppy $22
Seagate Serial ATA 80GB 7200RPM+Free SATA Power cable $131
Liteon DVD+CDRW Combo Drive 48X48X24X16 $89
Samsung CRT Flat 17 inch 785MB $219
Mitsubishi PS2 Keyboard $25
Deluxe 350W ATX Midi tower case $75
Altec Lansing 621 Speaker system $209

Price =$1262

Amd system.

corrupt that system looks good although you could spend a little bit more on the mobo.

Why spend more when those are perfectly good mobos?

I don't subscribe myself to the philosophy of spend spend spend.

I subscribe myself to the philosophy of spending only as much as little as possible as long as what I buy meets my requirements.

Those motherboards will do absolutely everything that guy needs.

PS I hate asus (Quality that is overpriced)

Gigabyte Quality and Performance that is well priced.

SATA Power cable
whats that for

Serial ATA hdd power its an extension on the back of the hdd for the molex to plug into.

where does it plug into ??

1 end into HDD
other end into your normal power cable

i guess i better step in and defend CA, but only becuase i have a mate who works there. Me personaly i went to a guy in springwood to get my parts for me. pretty danm good too.

http://members.optusnet.com.au/daniel.foy/lg_zz_sata.jpg

that is what it looks like MaD_CoW.

ah k thx .. i know how to put a computer together n stuff i done like 15ish but never seen a hdd with sata stuff whatever lol