Sony Managing director Michael Ephraim has commented on the recent news that the Xbox is winning the online battle here in Australia:

"It is coming from such a low base, whatever numbers they are talking about now are inconsequential in the future," Ephraim said. "I understand that our competition is a few hundred network adapters in front of us, not thousands. When you consider that we have an install base of a million PS2’s and 2.5 million Playstations, it is fairly irrelevant. Our competitors don’t even have a third of that install base."

Check out the full story at ARNnet.com.au. Rowr!

haha, lookout it's penis measuring time.

when x boxes or ps2 cost 50 bux with 5 games thrown in they will win the battle with me...


damn consumer whores

Sounds like sony cant hack a little competion

indeed

When you learn to type the words "the", "funny" and "winner" properly, I'll stop nuking your posts.

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huh?

Go Khel! :P

nah, you do

Fireblood

Its an OLD accoutn (read agn id 409) ;) I got SICK AND FARKING TIRED of logging in and out between home and work, so I am using 2 accounts :)

ahahah natslovr wannabe....

i think sony is having a cry

we have sold 0 sony network adaptors at work but ive seen around 5 xbox live boxes sold

Enough of the xbox propaganda please, we dont care.

Oh yeah, well we don't care that you don't care. So there.

Fireblood

Its an OLD accoutn (read agn id 409) ;) I got SICK AND FARKING TIRED of logging in and out between home and work, so I am using 2 accounts :)

k, lazy bastard! :P
I do the same but :)

From my experience, XBox Live is far superior to the PS2 Network stuff. And I'm not saying this because I'm some kind of crazed XBox fanboy, I enjoy my XBox and my PS2, but XBox Live really is a superior product. Its the least painful of the two to install and setup, and it has an actual online presence.

What I mean is there is actual XBox Live servers which you log into which let you manage your friends list, send invites to people to play games, etc. And if the game you're playing is XBox Live enabled, you can actually receive invites sent by your friends to play something WHILE you're playing your current game. XBox Live is a framework and provides a lot of standard functionality that nearly every XBox Live enabled title on the shelf will support. Since the way of joining games, creating games, etc is pretty standard accross the board you can boot up nearly any XBox Live game you want and you'll already know exactly how to play online because it will be using an interface already familiar to you. Sure, it costs a bit of money to go on XBox Live, but $100 for an entire year is really a negligible amount when you break it down. Thats about $8.30 a month, or about $2 a week. And dont forget, because of the XBox's built in hard drive, a lot of games offer downloadable content (new maps, game modes, vehicles, etc) through Live.

The PS2 online stuff on the other hand has no standard way of working and no cohesion at all. Its entirely up to the developers of each game how they implement network support and to what degree. While it could be argued that this gives developers more freedom, it also makes for a wild variance in the ways different games work online; theres no real standard way to play a ps2 game online. Because there is also no centralised server tracking friends and such, you get none of the other perks that XBox Live offers. Sure, PS2 has Central Station, which is obviously an attempt to try and bridge some of the functionality gap betwen PS2 Network and XBox Live, but its really a very pathetic attempt. Central Station is nothing more than an amazingly slow website which you view through a very rough, dodgy browser which is included on the disc you get with the Network Adapter. It took me 3 attempts to even sign up on Central Station because the sign up process timed out trying to contact the server twice, and then the browser crashed the third time.

ahahah natslovr wannabe....

There is only one. Well actually, there's a few, but i'm all of them.

the sign up process timed out trying to contact the server twice, and then the browser crashed the third time.

It's probably running on IIS/ASP.

PS2 online has a reasonable stable of games as well though, as well as the full support of EA, which is nothing to be scoffed at. A number of games are hitting ps2 with online play that come on xbox without it (Tiger Woods 2004, Return of the King and Tony Hawk Underground spring to mind), and other EA titles are just not coming on XBox full stop. EA also have their sports nation thing, which granted, at the moment, doesn't do much, but if they ramp it up it could be more than enough competition for the XBox sports network (XSN).

For me, it doesn't so much come down to the games, because theres games I enjoy on both consoles. Its more about the quality of the product, and XBox Live just screams quality while the PS2 Network stuff screams "tacked on to try and make more money for Sony".

Which EA titles are not coming out on XBOX. When this was first announced that EA wasn't doing live, the 'promise' was there that their titles would still go to xbox just live-less.

they are STILL behind in sales for their online service. haha, good one Managing Director! whoever hired you must be killing themselves right now!

Of course we need to be mindful of the slow uptake of broadband type internet services which are vital for the actual online service to work...

the 'promise' was there that their titles would still go to xbox just live-less.

Well, the only one I know of off the top of my head is EA's Rugby game, which is only on ps2 and PC. I just assumed that since they've done it once, they'll be doing it more often in the future.

developers like EA have the ability to charge gamers to play their games on the servers, something that can't happen on LIVE

But it already does happen on Live. Phantasy Star Online on XBox is played over XBox Live and you pay per month for that. The only difference is instead of the developers having to implement the payment system themselves, it just goes through XBox Live and goes on the credit card you used to sign up for Live automatically.

EA didn't like Live cause they didn't have control, and when they go to introduce monthly charges they don't want to have to give MS a cut.

On PS2 they don't have to give Sony a cut.

Heh, the interesting thing will be to look at whats coming out soon, hopefully, on PS2.

Gran Turismo 4, with, ps2 online support.

Does anyone else forecast a giant increase in the number of users on PS2 Online once that one game comes out?

I know I sure do.

Halo 2 anyone?

Gaylo 2

Yeah, i wrote that one myself.

The first was boring and repetitive. Multi sarked to.

I doubt they could fix all the faults for Halo 2.

The first was boring and repetitive. Multi sarked to.

I doubt they could fix all the faults for Halo 2.

Where im inclined to agree that Halo isnt a great game (except coop, coop rules). There are thousands of xbox gamers out there that love it to death, simply because they never had the fps mulitplayer opportunity that we all had with quake/2/3/etc .

Im of the oppinion that if bungee had have released Halo for PC first as originally intended, it would have just faded into obscurity like so many other mediocre shooters before it (Giants:Kabuto, SiN, Kingpin, Daikatana anyone?)

Regardless, it is what it is, and with a huge fanbase, Halo2 is just as anticipated among the fanboys as half-life2/doom3.

wtf? you can get network adaptors for ps2? I knew about this iLink thing, me and my mate played gran turismo 3 over iLink once. What's the expansion bay on a ps2 for anyway? hard drive? network card? Can you play pc vs ps2 in say, need for speed underground?

If microsoft hadn't f***ed bungee over so hard, then they might have been able to produce a better product.

Halo didn't just fade into obscurity on PC, it crashed and burned.

Can you play pc vs ps2 in say, need for speed underground?

Apparently yes.

wtf? you can get network adaptors for ps2? I knew about this iLink thing, me and my mate played gran turismo 3 over iLink once. What's the expansion bay on a ps2 for anyway? hard drive? network card? Can you play pc vs ps2 in say, need for speed underground?

Not on the newer model's

In Sony's 'great' wisdom, they thought everybody could just use online gamming.
So in the new designs (anything from the sph-500002 (or something) up) doesn't have an iLink port.

In Sony's 'great' wisdom, they thought everybody could just use online gamming.

Or they just wanted it to be cheaper to produce so they could make more money. Sounds like a Sony thing to do.

SOE have made so much money out of EQ that they probably are think online is a good market (can't pirate a game you need a subscription for)

Sony never said their adaptor would be 56k compatible in PAL regions. They have it in the US as a large percentage of US is still 56K and they would lose alot more of the market, and because we are like ~4% of the videogame market, i don't think they would "care" as such if they missed out on the 56k ppl over here. Plus seriously? Do you honestly want to play games online on dialup?

Also voice is restricted to 1 game un like live

voice restricted to one game?

Uh.... Socom has voice support. So does hardware online arena... (by the way, those are the only games of which I have which support voice. there are probably others out there, but I havent heard/played them yet.. :) )

Or is there something stupid that you can only use the headset with one game, period.

Or are you on crack.

Yer, not even i could make sense of that..... The ps2 on certain games allows you to talk to anyone anytime, some don't there are only a select few that do. I see it as XBLive marketed the headset as being able to communicate to ppl while playing on live etc, and just tell developers its there to use etc (rainbow six 3) and sony have marketed to be used WITH games first off (SOCOM) and added voice over "live" later...

when x boxes or ps2 cost 50 bux with 5 games thrown in they will win the battle with me...

Oh, and what is this super-selling console of yours that I've never heard of, the one killing xbox and ps2, eh?

I think Halo merely ended up being another run of the mill FPS because they took so damn long to get it out the door.

I remember having this feeling of awe when I saw the videos of the game for the first time, a couple of years or so back now, whenever it was.

The warthog just jumping over that hill, and seeing the driver and passengers getting jolted around etc, made it look really bloody awesome.

But then, a couple of years passed, the platform it was going to be on changed like twice, and it ended up not so revolutionary.

Halo is still a fun game, even on PC (and I dont get why so many people have problems with the game, I guess I just have a system which the game loves or something *shrugs*), and I still like playing it just to drive the warthogs around and over people. But I digress.

I'm merely hanging out to get SOCOM on PS2 soon, so I can start online gaming in that. Finally bought myself a PS2 after a couple of years of wanting one. Damn parents, take hint, buy games for xmas.

my 2c but i have heard that cheating is rampart on ps2, and games can be patched on x-box...

I've never seen any evidence of cheating on XBox, the only way you could cheat was if you had a modded XBox and directly accessed the files, but then you wouldn't be able to get on Live anyway so its pretty much impossible.

Sure, theres patching programs out there that patch cheats into the games, but they're only for single player, theres no way to load hacks in multiplayer cos the game is running off cd.

s***, didnt realise i typed so much...i should get a PhD for foruming!

You might want to get your elementary in paragraphs if you actually expect anyone to attempt reading that.

Close to on topic:

Cnet has this article up on news.com about how the games console is revolutionising home entertainment. There’s a lot about modding your X-box, even has some streaming video of a non solder mod at work.

http://news.com.com/2009-1043_3-5113175.html?tag=nefd_lede

ET

The thing is so many people do in fact think that Halo IS the best game ever made that's the problem. Halo was so overrated and I agree with the person before that said if it had come out on the PC when they had planned it would have rocked..but the problem was it didn't and it was delayed and becuase of it other games came out that did exactly what Halo was doing.

Halo was/is boring and repetitive, the only thing it had going for it is co-op..which they took out of the PC version..people that bought Halo for the PC should be shot.

*checks the forum URL*

Hrm, it's not gamefaqs or ign, where the hell are they all coming from?

Yer who the hell fkn told them about this forum,

???? please make sense especially if your trying to be smart and abuse someone. Take a deep breathe in and spell properly (says me lol)

http://www.gargano.it/citta/ssevero/band/band.jpg

ok ill say this...halo was a great experience first up



Hmm 'pwned' is all I'll say to that,after reading the first post/description.
You obviously have a very biasedbut srange view,'specs dont mean s***' and something else about 'potential'....WELL that potenial that you dismissed,has suddenly woken up and bitten Sony on the arse :-? I think thats been prooven time and time again,and this Xmas is is the biggest X for Xbox! Theres MANY many titles i love for theyre own different contrasts...Ie.If im feeling lazy,ill boot up my Xbox,or if I want some challenge..(really enjoyed Splinter-Cells-Kola Cell-[ohh,thats downloadable content),However being MS I spose and having the money,the nice makers of Xbox Oz mag have a deal with MS (ONLY deal in the country) to provide offline downloadable content :-) So fear not any non-broadbanders,However,NOT all levels/mods are available..Ie,Theres a few more SC levels aswell yet have to be a Live! subscriber.
The rave about Halo,well I agree it shouldve come on PC first,however we can say that about soo many titles,and ppl will keep saying it,Halo IS a good game,(hehe,love them warthog gfx too)-yet pt.2 will be a big Improvement I hope.

Dan:-You are NOT alone,just have alook at my posts..hehehe,aslong as its factual/good Ill read it...

And finally,Someone mentioned SiN and other older titles,I LOVE that game,cant believe how sooo many games are being overlooked...
A PERFECT example of 'overlooking' a great game is 'Devastation' PC,wich is an Unrea-Enginel Based game by Novalogic (Can hold 2weapons in that game,thats not a unique thingy anymore..hehe),wich i paid for and have on original,and it is REALLY good in all modes,SP/MP/Lan or Online all work GREAT!Touche though,too many good old games missed out is a pity.Its just GREAT that now Xbox has 'caught' up,and literally 'taken over' (I love that word,dnt you?)
HAPPY GAMING!

Jesus christ, people, learn to use paragraphs, sentences, and make your posts easier to read! *points at fragxlr8tor* (and god damn, go back to school and do your English classes again for f***s sake).

In regards to PS2 only having like 2 games compatible with voice, it comes down more to developers implementing voice support in their game, and if they choose to do so. And so what, voice command in games is not a PS2 exclusive (I'm meant to care about this?)

Again, with there being less games having online support, that's again, the developers side of things, not Sonys.

I'm sure Sony weren't smoking any crack when they decided to compete in online gaming with their console.

And I'm not smoking crack either.

I bought a PS2 for a couple of reasons, mainly because I like the PS2 more than the Xbox. GT4 is coming out, it has fun games like SOCOM, GT3 at the moment, and some other awesome games. Hardware Online Arena is good fun as well..

And hey, it's my money anyway, isn't it? It could be a less powerful system, but in my opinion, the games I like which are on PS2, are far superior to anything I've played on Xbox. *cough Sega GT cough*

I couldn't care if it out-sells titles on xbox or not. I dont give a rats arse about sales figures.

All I said earlier on is, that I think PS2 Online will get a fairly big boost in people using it when GT4 comes out, which will have PS2 Online support, as that will be a big game for PS2, much like GT3 is.

Also, my PS2 cost me significantly less than $300. Gotta love being a coles myer employee. Staff discount!

I'll probably end up buying an Xbox later on as well, not because it is better, simply so I can have the best of both worlds. I'll be able to play GT4, Halo 2, and all the fun games.

And some people will enjoy gaming more because they have a better system? I don't think thats the case really.

I put up with a PSX for about 3 years, got it given to me second hand, with nothing more than games like Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo 2, and Crash Bandicoot. I enjoyed playing all of those games immensely. Doesnt matter if it is on, by todays standards, a s*** console.

They are still excellent games. Which makes gaming more fun.

I'm sure playing a s*** game on the xbox must be far more fun, because its on the xbox right?

(and upon hitting the post button, and seeing my post come up, I saw how wonderfully easy it is for people to read... Not all in one giant block of text...)

Ok i will go back and focous on elnglish

Thats just gold! You go focous on your elnglish!

Far more supieror pfft PGR2 is a great racing game (does'nt stang a channce against GT4 tho)

Saying things like that could get someone hurt. I reckon it does stang a channce against GT4. A very big one.

the xbox was $800.00 when it first came out so i dont know why you are giving him s*** for paying $750.00 when he bought his ps2. it was quite sometime before sony dropped the prices of the ps2 when it first came out and im sure that he got his money's worth by playing ps2 games that blew away anything that was available at the time. there are those who are the early adoptors and those who follow the trend later.

f***, i wrote so much, you MUST give me a PhD!

a) Who are you talking to

b) You are the smartest man in the world for writing that much!!!!!1

actually i believe that the xbox debuted at $799 but about 2 weeks later dropped the price to $649.00 and had a rebate which gave out a handset and a game to make up for the price reduction. the game deals didnt happen till towards christmas last year with the xbox deal which gave you sega gt, jet grind radio, halo and dvd remote.

Fragxl8ashkjdhsakd, you do realise that this forum includes an awesome "feature" that allows you to read your post before you submit it, right?

In addition to that you can even also correct any spelling, grammatical or typographic errors after submission, by using the world first highly unstable "edit" button.

Learning to harness these amazing wonders that 2003 has brought us, just might be your gateway to forging a legitimate opinion to present to your gaming peers.

O ye Gods Hitman Steel battalian will shine with its advanced controll pad and its live ability should give other mech games a run :)

Im sorry if this is a joke but fraggay8to Steel Battalion is NOT coming to Australia nor any Pal region (from what im aware of ) as the controller alone is worth more then the Xbox itself retailing at $499.95. Microsoft themselves did NOT bring it into the country and some retailers (like EB) were going to bring it in themselves but there wasn't enough interest at the time to make it worth it

Man, that controller looks so awesome.

Ok i will go back and focous on elnglish when you go back and do maths.

Firstly you said you payed $750 dollars for ur PS2 when it came out now its gone back down to less then 300 bucks

Funny, I never paid $750 for a PS2 when it came out, because I only bought a PS2, for the first time, last thursday. Someone ELSE said they paid $750 for the PS2, not ME.

Like I said, go back to school, and complete English okay?

And cmon, it's not hard for gameboy colour to outsell a PS2, its marketed at completely different people! GB colour is marketed at kiddies who want to play their games of pokemon in colour!

I haven't seen a realistic racing game on Xbox (yet) that even comes close to Gran Turismo 2 (I found GT2 more fun than Sega GT, to tell the truth) .. let alone 3. Sega tried with Sega GT2002 I think it was, and I reckon that failed miserably. PGR2, is more an arcade type racer, if it's anything like PGR1.

Sega GT2002 was the only racing game I really played a decent bit, and I didn't really like it, to tell the truth.

I'll have to play PGR2 to make my mind up on that matter, but I'm pretty certain that from a realism point of view, the GT series has pretty much got the formula right.

God's hitman, I shall give you a gold star for making your post easy to read :D

My comment about "playing a s*** game on the xbox must be far more fun, because its on the xbox right", was because of fragxlr8or saying that people will enjoy their gaming more because they are on a better system.

Not to deliberately pick at anyone who likes Xbox's or anything (and s***, I'm going to buy one soon enough myself, so I can have the best of both worlds), but more to make some stupid point I guess, in that if its a s*** game, just because its on a better console, doesnt make it more enjoyable or anything. PS2 has some games that are far more fun than some games on Xbox, and vice versa.

And hey, if I only crossed the line once, I'm happy :)

Only a hundred or so cars in PGR2? But GT2 had like, 400 or so. Havent counted GT3 yet, and I know that GT4 is near or over the 500 mark.

And bah! Steel Battalion! Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries any day please :) Of course, I only have a PC and PS2, not an xbox :)

(I'd actually quote text, but that just makes my posts even longer... :))

Who could say no to this? (ignoring the price for a minute)
http://www.game-revolution.com/previews/screens/xbox/steel_battalion/steel_battalion7b.jpg

At on cyph's defense, PGR2 is alot more arcadier then the GT series and yes the GT series would be the BEST car sim series out EVER ( or so far )

Well this forums been killed by 'game reviews',reading through it,i 'browsed' everything as they were comparisons of bloody car games...(PS2 and Xbox)
NFS-Underground on Xbox owns them all!! LoL
And more importantly,the BEST thing ive seen in this forum now is the JoyPad....wow,thats just awesome-atic! Must look into it more thanks for the pic of it!
C'mon ppl,BOTH consoles Are GREAT ffs,its basically personal choice...But i must admit atm on Xbox,Im in a definate struggle as i wanna buy like 3 games and yes,they COST like 96bux for a NEW one...
NFSU is just GREAT,im playing it on PC and Id prefer the controls of the xbox for this one! Its one hell of a game,not to mention the other 20 or so other new games,(already reviewed ty guys),and the other 20 or so NOT reviewed,like XIII & StarCraft-Ghost.
Well,ill be happy to buy 1 or 2 games....It does help the industry,and I HIGHLY review ANY game i will pay more than 20bux for...LoL,I recommend ANY1 to atleast play a demo of a game anyway....
Unreal 2-XMP on Xbox NOW! WooHoo.....The thing with PS2,I HAD one,and Sony left me for s***....no matter what they were worth then,its theyre overall/final worth that prooves to be counting the most,and tats why now everyone wants to trash talk Xbox,why,coz MS decided to 'compete' for once instead of overtake? (wicg they did that at same time anyway!)?!?! I say stop bashing either console,I love gaming on any of em,but I DO prefer Xbox,and am very unhappy with how sony treated/continues to treat its users,specially ONLINE where MOST gamers love to benefit from games.
Happy Gaming Folks!

and yes the GT series would be the BEST car sim series out EVER ( or so far )

No f***ing way!!! Colin McRae 2, Porsche Challenge, RWC 2003 for PS2, TOCA World Touring Cars all have a better feel as a simulation goes, as a driving based game GT series is by far one of the most entertaining.

Cyph how can you say there have been no realistic racing games yet. PGR2 and Collin Mc.. 4 have both featured extremeley good/realistic driving engines

PGR2 isn't hugely realistic, as far as driving models go I'd place it as more realistic than Need for Speed, but less realistic and more forgiving than the GT series, but this is why I like it. I never really enjoyed the GT series because it was too realistic. I bought GT3 on Ps2 the day it came out and then played it for like 4 hours and never touched it again. Sure, it looked great, but I just didn't like the gameplay.

I've always loved Need for Speed games because of their arcade style driving and forgiving physics, and PGR2 is like a slightly more realistic version of a Need for Speed game. Taking good lines through corners and such is important in PGR2, but the physics are still "arcadey" enough to let you do crazy slides and bulls*** stunts. In fact, the game encourages you to do crazy slides and bulls*** stunts as you get style points (or Kudos as the game calls them) for doing things like that, which you can then use to unlock more cars and tracks.

yeah, PGR2 only have a bit over 100 cars, but i should have mentioned this b4, these are cars ur actually gonna want to use (minus the Mini Cooper...i mean come on!).

Don't you go knocking the Mini, my mate and I raced split screen last night, and let me tell you Mini vs GT2000 in Sydney any track, the Mini rulez.

Yeah, sif give s*** to the Mini, its great fun to drive around. I was playing on Live a few nights ago in a server with 8 people, and we played on the Nurburgring (no idea if thats the right spelling) track. We played formed 4 teams of 2, with one person in each team taking the mini and one taking the Seleen and the idea was for the winning team to get their mini over the line first with the Seleen acting as an escort and bashing the other teams off the track. You could also get behind the mini and give it a push and make it go faster :P It was pretty awesome fun.

But when you're playing online, the point isn't to take the fastest car in the game and beat everyone, in fact, you'll find very few people do that. Usually everyone agrees on a category (or the host forces a category) and you just choose cars from that category. Wheres the fun in picking the same, fast car every time?

Halo was really important because it demonstrated to developers and publishers that FPShooters could work on a console. This means that I don't have to spend $800 on my PC to enjoy Doom3 & HalfLife2, I can just play them on my XBox.

Colin Mcrae wh??? (I'm kidding, by the way).

Okay, Colin Mcrae series of games.

Sure, they are fun, but they are still arcade style games.

Considering the car turns around the center of the car, and doesnt actually seem to do any real turning based around what the front wheels are doing... I wouldnt say its overly realistic.

It's a fun game, to be sure, but it's on so many platforms that it can't be considered a competitor for the title of realistic driving simulator, which GT pretty much has sewn up.

Enough with the game reviews already....ffs,have you guys noticed that there is like 3-4 of you guys talking the SAME crud about your 'gaming' experiences.

NFS is great on PC and dunno on PS2,BUT i know its ALOT easier to play on Xbox,thts for sure....(MY opinion TY)
LOL...Xbox reviewer,you should A.Have KNOWN better that I was joking, and B.Was Trying to End this crap on car games Xbox Vs car games PS2...ffs....
If Im wrong,shoot me :P im only the messenger...
Let me assure you though,check who you shoot at first ;-) and learn to take a joke..
I came to the forum 2 days,and 2days,ONLY good thing was that Xbox-Controller Pic and post!Isnt thats the 'direction' the forum was goinb,b4 it was attacked by mad car gamers?? lol...No Offence to any of you,but why not just start a new thread,id be all to happy to talk 'games' on this console that console,BUT in the RIGHT forum :-)
'Leave the Xbox out of it mmkay'
I MAY start listening to you,when you stop talking CRAP,call yourself a reviewer? wel,im going to have to see if your an official then,otherwise i dont think YOU have ANY juristiction to TELL ME WHAT I CAN SAY...Got it,If you like,Ill check with your company ?Its only an 'extension' away,understood?

I have to agree with Cheers on that, i personally think the goldeneye is still the console fps benchmark.

Halo was really important because it demonstrated to developers and publishers that FPShooters could work on a console

OMBG YOU SUCK AT CONSOLE KNOWLEDGE!!!

Ever played Goldeneye you retarded loser. HAHAHA Anyway, how come they couldnt get Rainbow 6 3 to work, they had to butcher it into a lame ass 'arcade' version if they wanted to sell any copies to loser XBOX owners.

Ever played Goldeneye you retarded loser. HAHAHA Anyway, how come they couldnt get Rainbow 6 3 to work, they had to butcher it into a lame ass 'arcade' version if they wanted to sell any copies to loser XBOX owners.

Wow, one whole game changed. I could say that the PC sucks because the xbox version of halo is better than it. I won't though, because I am not a f***ing moron.

I always enjoy a good ps2 vs. xbox discussion, but I am not even going to bother partaking in one here, you're all much too stupid (not you cyph).

Goldeneye has been the easiest console fps to control for me. Didnt really like halo's control's. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

halo controls were ok but goldeneye and perfect dark were much easier and you cant say halo was the benchmark for fps on consoles because that is BS. Im not saying goldeneye is good now but it was the benchmark. Id rather timesplitters 2 multi over halo anyday.

p.s halo multi is better on pc

Hey my post obvios=usly worked didnt it...lol,stopped the nonstop car chatter...
Look mate,i didnt take it personally,but when ANY1 states to me 'please leave the xbox out of it,mmkay' then i see that as someone trying to issue me a command ?I dont take 'orders' regardless of what reviewer you are etc....I wasnt even angry ffs,as what I said about NFSU was just a bloody joke,mate your the one that then told me to 'zip it' why? Coz I picked another game other than the ones you were talkin about....
And sif u didnt know i was jokin when i said NFSU owns them all..was like my last sentence after posting a topic about 'too much car talk' etc...
Atleast now theres some 'other' games being looked at...I have nothing personal with you ,please dont tell me what I can/can't write though or i will react,If a moderator didnt want it posted,THEY would have removed the parts they didnt like.
The way you made out,i had committed a mortal sin by makin a joke...Looks like you need a blood pressure checkup :-),LoL,mate off the topic,and is funny coz of this s***,im actually a fitness instructor...hehe,sheesh lighten up....
What did u expect,me to see the 'Xbox Reviewer' and STOP saying anything regarding Xbox coz ill have to watch my back for walking-xbox-dictionary-hitman ? NO THANKS..LoL...
Lighten up...Go Play NFSU On XBOX...
OK,BACK TO THE TOPIC,IF THERE STILL IS 1:-
Being an Xbox 'buyer' i spose/supporter of developmental research into 3D/OpenGL etc Gaming,Im really LET DOWN by NO Live! AT ALL being incorporated into the Original NFSU-DvD.
The EULA states 'EA can add conent at any time with or without notice toend users' ie Mods...they did say it would be a highly moddable game on both PC and Xbox.
I just hope we dont see another episode of SegaGT2002 & Sega2002GT-Online :-/ Id be interested if being an Xbox reviewer,or anyone else for that matter,do you have any solid information or anything about the Live! aspects of NFS-Underground,IF they are truly coming out...
I hope I was 'academic' enough in my writing...hehe
Happy gaming As Always,DS!

why oh why won't people use paragraphs?

I think this thread is officially past its used by date, nobody is saying anything new that hasn't already been said a billion times, so just let it die, thanks.

Ah GoldenEye. Never owned a N64, had a flatmate who bought one. I saw him play some pokemon game on it once before he sold it to a cash converters. Said it was a waste of money.

Well he smoked too much crack. Mario Kart rocked hard.

just because a game has real cars in it, doesnt make it a real simulator (even if the game calls itself the real driving simulator)

GT driving model is pretty basic

id take colin mcrae x over any of the GT's anyday;

WoW this forum still going...I have Only ONE thing to answer,and thats to 'God's [S]Hitman' ,
Anytime you want my address bitch,its here,just email me....lol,you actually 'wanna see who freaks who out more' ,
Your'e a f***ed up guy,but O.K,Ill b all to happy,like I said,lookup my Profile,grab my email addy and ill be happy to meet you anywhere you like 'Bad-Boy' LOL....
Your pathetic ,you killed this forum with your Lame arse Post,its sad to see 'Xbox' attached to your 'sig' as your a class act meaning of the word 'Loser' ;-)
Now is that enough paragraphs?

Now back to the topic..Oh yea,some lamer f***ed it....It went from a GOOD discussion about decent games,to bloody comparisons against N64's...Pathetic...
Khel summed it up bout 4posts ago...

Clarification-Yes we obviously got off on the 'wrong foot' but i seem to notice you just cant help yourself,your opinion is always 'correct',and then you presume to tell people what they can and can't write,and in the signature ,its a lie,you are NO official,so why say it?Pathetic.....YOUR the ONLY person that got off on 'the wrong foot' with me,maybe you should look within,and you saying you'd like to see who scares who etc,Ill happily do it,but didnt you,ike think,'Hangon,I just wrote maybe we got off on the wrong foot,ill leave it there'...you said sumthin positive,followed by a PERSONAL threat unto myself....haha,(wich REALLY makes me and alot of other LAUGH)...
Whos taking they're gaming too serious now eh? I didnt ask you to meet me for a Real time-Dead Or Alive Battle,But like i said ill be happy to oblige,hey,we could even make it a mini-movie,send streaming-video shots of me kicking your arse,(Mafioso Style if you Like even?) into Cyber Space.....LOL
Who knows,It might be the next gen. of Big brother...LoL...
For Everyone ELSE on ausgamers,and those of you really dedicated to games/gaming,I wish you all a Very merry X-Mas and a Happy New Year!

some ppl just have no idea about game son this forum.

y cant we all just get along?

I now have an Xbox. Am I cool maenz!

So you got an xbox AND a DVD burner? you SUX

ps2 is so much better then xbox

xbox cant even read cdr's wat a joke

xbox cant even read cdr's wat a joke

Thats funny because i burn my mp3's to cd's all the time and put them on my xbox

some xbox can but not many

ur one of the lucky ones

Yeah I know Fireblood, I know :D

What the hell is with all the keyboard warriors, take your horrible grammar and f*** off back to Gamearena.

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