Hi All

XCape will be holding a Warcraft 3 league sometime in April. There will be 2 events in this league: 2 V 2 and 3 V 3. The league will run for 16 weeks with the top teams going into double elimination playoffs after the 16 weeks. The total prize pool is $15,000.00 and at this current moment it will be:

2 V 2
1st prize - $4000.00
2nd prize - $2000.00

3 V 3
1st prize - $6000.00
2nd prize - $3000.00


The total prize pool is subject to getting 32 teams for 2 V 2 and 26 teams for 3 V 3 and a 80% attendance rate per week of the league. Prize will go down if team limit is not met but prize pool will go up if exceeded.

Points will be scored for winning as well as losing. Something like the NRL ladder system.

The starting date of the league will be finalised depending on the response to the league.

There is a $20 registration fee per person per event (discount for registration fee will apply if joining both events) and $10 per week per person for the 16 weeks (this is unlikely to change and also there will be discount on the weekly payment if you join both the 2 v 2 and 3 v 3 event). It works out to be $180 per event for the 4 months for a prize worth more than 10 times the entry fee


Call us now to register your team!
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Yik-Loong Lee
XCape Pty Ltd

Ph. - (07) 3870 8100
Mobile - 0403 172 872

Email - XCape@internode.on.net
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Address - 'Clements Arcade' 51 Sherwood Rd, Toowong, Brisbane 4066
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Xcape are also putting in a bit of there money for this aswell,.. I dont think they make any money off this,

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Pick up your game nudgee... ;) :D

142 players (32 teams of 2 and 26 teams of 3) by $20 entry fee = $2840

142 players by 16 weeks at $10 per week = $22,720

Total = $25,560

They're making money :P

ha, they must be running a business :D

good league though, sure alot of ppl would love that cash :D

The entry fee has been thought out carefully. It is going to cost $20 per person to register yourself/team. Than it is $10 per week per person for the league. (you will be playing at least 3-4 games a week)

It works out to be $180 for the 16 weeks (4 months) for a 1st prize prize worth more than 10 times your entry fees.

1st prize for both events works out to be $2000 per person in a team

2nd prize for both events works out to be $1000 per person in a team.


It is true XCape will earn something from this league, as Khel said, we have to recover back administration cost, electricity, rent, etc. this is to cover our expenses so we don't go into the red for running this league. We hope to have this league every year and would greatly appreciate all your support.

Ah, dont get me wrong, I wasn't trying to give s*** to XCape or anything, this looks like a pretty awesome tournament and the prizes are quite good considering they only have to be split 2 or 3 ways (thats some uber phat lewt!).

I was just owning that second guy who posted :P

oh yeah! god damn it! i keep over reading stupid things like that

Fkn swoit. You can count me there with a team (fkd if i know who atm) but, VERY NICE work there Xcape. Thumbs up to you guys :)

yeah this will be awesome.

Im guessing all the matches will be held at the netcafe, but with 3-4 games a week attendance could be hard to get all teams there at the same time.
Would it be at night?

What date does the league begin?
My partner is on holidays til the end of jan...

Also, whats the discout if joining both leagues?
$30 for both?

EDIT: also another suggestion, to get a lot of teams to join and encourage new competition, may I suggest altering the prize money down to 5th? With only 1st/2nd getting prize money a lot of people wont enter because they wont have much of a chance. I suggest a split like this maybe -

2vs2

1st - 3000
2nd - 1500
3rd/4th/5th - 500

3vs3

1st - 4500
2nd - 2250
3rd/4th/5th - 750

(1st $1500 each, 2nd $750 each, $250 each for 3rd/4th/5th)

Yes it means a bit less money for 1st/2nd but its still a good amount of prize money, and with the extra placings it means the teams that aren't pro will have a shot at some prize money as well.

What does everyone else think of this idea?

^___________^ KEKEKEKEKEKEKE!!

dude, i wish i was a good wc3 player

Please also note that if you leave the prize money sorting as it is, and you dont get enough teams, it will most likely be reduced to what I suggested anyways, except without the 3rd/4th and 5th placings....

What Swat said.

For I am a wise, wise man.

Considering the number of good teams that are likely to put in the dedication, perhaps having a 3rd as well would make it fairer.

This sounds good - I was planning to quit War3, but now I have to get back into high gear.

What toll said.

We will look into the 3rd, 4th and 5th placing prizes. I was thinking of putting a prize money for those places. Will work something out and let you all know.

After considering everyone's suggestion, especially swat0r :) I revised the prizes. How does this sound?:

2v2
1st Prize - $3000.00
2nd Prize - $1500.00
3rd Prize - $500.00
4th Prize - $500.00
5th Prize - $500.00
6th Prize - $200.00 + Free Membership & 10hr XCape prepaid card
7th Prize - $200.00 + Free Membership & 10hr XCape prepaid card
8th Prize - $200.00 + Free Membership & 10hr XCape prepaid card

3v3
1st Prize - $4500.00
2nd Prize - $2250.00
3rd Prize - $750.00
4th Prize - $750.00
5th Prize - $750.00
6th Prize - $300.00 + Free Membership & 10hr XCape prepaid card
7th Prize - $300.00 + Free Membership & 10hr XCape prepaid card
8th Prize - $300.00 + Free Membership & 10hr XCape prepaid card


What do you all think of this new prizing structure??

I prefered the old one. I think a lot of people will be willing to put in a lot of effort to be competitive for the first prize. I think if you want to generate as much interest as possible. If your going to have a leauge over such a long period of time, I would of thought you need to have very keen people, not people who will be happy to get into the top 8.

Also if you dont get the numbers, then the prizes will have to be cut across the board, and that will make all the prizes even less. Pretty soon people will be looking at it thinking, "f***it its not worth it anymore", especially those that were previously happy to just be in the top 8.

sif, if there are only 2 prizes, u wouldnt get the s*** warcraft 3 players like me playing cause its a waste of cash when u know u wont get close to winning anything. However if there is a prize for at least 8th then some people wouldnt mind going in even knowing they wont win!

I like the new prizes!

Well this is what im saying, in order for the leauge to be successfull i would of thought you would need players that are willing to be there every week. If you get a bunch of "s***" players in there that arent really as keen, are they going to reliably show up? If the prizes get cut down because of attendence, and the 8th prize is either non existent or really reduced, are the "s***" players still going to come? 8 prizes seems like a lot, especially considering they may be reduced.

I just want it to be successfull, this is going to be mad.

Any thoughts on a 1v1 leauge?

I like those new prizes too, like Bad said, it gives people who might not necessarily be able to win the opportunity to still pick up a prize. And if you have 30 odd teams then getting in the top 8 is still a pretty impressive feat, its not like people would just be able to cruise through and score a prize, I reckon there'd still need to be a fair amount of participation and work on the behalf of the players.

So the first prize is a bit smaller, have a cry, its still $1500 each ffs. For playing a GAME. Geez, some people are never happy.

Uh, as far as I can tell you didnt address any points I made.

getting in the top 8 is still a pretty impressive feat, its not like people would just be able to cruise through and score a prize

Well thats what im saying, your going to have to be prepared to put in a lot of effort in order to pick up a prize. Do we want people in there who are happy to pick up 8th? Especially considering you might not get the numbers? Then all of a sudden 8th prize is dropped, and you lose more people from the leauge, because you were marketing for people who arent neccessarily going to hang around.

I reckon there'd still need to be a fair amount of participation and work on the behalf of the players

Thats what I said, people will need to be keen on this comp, and if your marketing for people who are only showing up so they can score say, eighth, then your in a postion where you have people in the leauge who are prolly gonna be ok with just chucking it in.

People will have to be organised and keen to show up for this comp. At the recent 3v3 game at (cybergames maybe?) 2 teams didnt even show, and they had already paid, if 1 guy bails, then the team is over, and you lose 3 people all up.

So the first prize is a bit smaller, have a cry, its still $1500 each ffs. For playing a GAME. Geez, some people are never happy.

Was this directed at me? I never made any comments on the first prize. I didnt see anyone who did. For playing a game? lol, I sure as hell wouldnt want you in my team, I can see you telling me now "its just a game", and we did really well to get as far as we did, but you cant show up tonight, and geez, im never happy. Anyway I think thats the attitude that derails this kind of thing.

There is 4 months till this leauge starts, I only know of 1 team that plays 3v3 and 2v2 much, and thats wang, so as far as im concerned, there isnt anyone who is interested in this kind of competition that cannot win it. Its ridiculous to say your happy with 8th, when you can go for first. If you are going for first, you will stick with the leauge.

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wierd i thought someone replied to me, maybe another thread

getting in the top 8 is still a pretty impressive feat, its not like people would just be able to cruise through and score a prize


Well thats what im saying, your going to have to be prepared to put in a lot of effort in order to pick up a prize. Do we want people in there who are happy to pick up 8th? Especially considering you might not get the numbers? Then all of a sudden 8th prize is dropped, and you lose more people from the leauge, because you were marketing for people who arent neccessarily going to hang around.

I wouldn't realy say a lot of effort.
The fact is with only a 1st and 2nd prize, you wont be able to get 30 teams entering.
Going down to 8th place you will get a lot more and should be able to get 30 teams.

There is 4 months till this leauge starts, I only know of 1 team that plays 3v3 and 2v2 much, and thats wang, so as far as im concerned, there isnt anyone who is interested in this kind of competition that cannot win it. Its ridiculous to say your happy with 8th, when you can go for first. If you are going for first, you will stick with the leauge.

its not ridiculous at all. Why? because its pretty obvious which team is going to get 1st/2nd. I hink you'll find a lot of the competition is going to be getting 3rd and less. The teams will aim for it, yes, but even if they only get 8th at least they are getting their costs payed for a fun tournament. Otheriwse they would have no chance at all at getting 1st/2nd and hence wouldn't even enter!

You make a good argument clipto but I still believe that its a better idea going for a bigger spread of prizes.

Otherwise you'll end up with maybe 10 teams max, those who may have a chance at actually winning something in which case the prize money is going to be much less than what it would be if you used the revised prizing structure and got 30 teams.

In much like cs, you cant expect a lesser team to be able to rock up and compete with f0 or nK, those teams win all the comps and if you restricted the prizing to 1st/2nd not many teams would enter because they are simply not on the same playing level. Same goes with wc3.

EDIT: oh all these edits are f***ing up my post now clipto:(

There is 4 months till this leauge starts, I only know of 1 team that plays 3v3 and 2v2 much, and thats wang, so as far as im concerned, there isnt anyone who is interested in this kind of competition that cannot win it

I wouldn't say that. We may have the only dedicated interest in it, but that doesn't mean people wont start practicing it to be competitive.

I mean look at you guys you dont play those game modes and you just rock up and win every comp and beat us anyways.

my thoughts on a solo league?

no way. I hate solo and so does the rest of wang. Why? its not that we *suck* at it, we all have semi-decent levels. The reason is because its all frustration.
Solo is all about cheese and it can drive you crazy with anger. Makes us hate the game.

2vs2 and 3vs3 aren't nearly as bad because you cant get away with the same s***.

Even if I had a shot at the prizes I dont think i'd enter because its not really any fun to play.

Of course solo is very competitive and I know you'd probably get enough players to enter providing you used the revised prize money sortings.
Just voicing my opinion regarding it.

We may have the only dedicated interest in it, but that doesn't mean people wont start practicing it to be competitive.

Thats what im saying, we have 4 months to practise, and there is only 1 good 3v3 team (that I know of, wang). People will practise, they will be competitve, and theres no reason why they wont have a shot at first thats as good as anyones.

I think solo is the way to go for a leauge. I find its really hard to get 3 people together and playing together, and staying together, I dunno how the cs guys do it. I assume they do it because they have to. What if you want to join the leauge and dont know 2 other guys to play with? Or cant practise with them? As I said the 3v3 comp has 6 people no show, that could of been merely because 2 people bailed.

I also prefer 1v1 personally, most people I know dol, if your playing for money as well as for fun I think its the way to go, and I think it would be more successfull.

its pretty obvious which team is going to get 1st/2nd

Thats bulls***, name the 2 teams please. Also this is FOUR months down the track. For a huge prize. You cant tell me people wont start really getting into this game.

you cant expect a lesser team to be able to rock up and compete with f0 or nK

Well lets look at the prize structure for the TB comp, I dunno what it was, I would of thought it was more similar to the first proposed prize list. Also teams like Nk and f-0 are more solidified, and more likely to win. Can you even name a 3v3 team other than wang? I cant.

You make a good argument clipto but I still believe that its a better idea going for a bigger spread of prizes.

Well im not saying i have all the anmswers, im just giving my opinion thats all.

Theres no doubt i would go with the option that got the most people in the leauge, and KEPT the most people in the leauge, i just think its the first one. Especially considering its a 3v3 comp, where there are NO dominant teams established. Even wang only got third in the last 3v3 comp. Also there is 4? months till this leauge starts up.

Thanks for all ur responses to the league. Gives me things to think about how to make this league a memorable one and a good one. I will consider everything you guys put up, just hope I will make the right choice and give you people a league everyone talks about :)

Mad, well with that outlook im sure you cant go wrong and you'll make a solid decision.

Thats bulls***, name the 2 teams please. Also this is FOUR months down the track. For a huge prize. You cant tell me people wont start really getting into this game.

MT will. its not bs, its fact. You have won EVERY other comp in EVERY game type (solo/2vs2/3vs3).
Dude we already are really into wc3, you're just a better player than us and theres nothing we can do.

I dont have a problem with it, you deserve it, im just trying to explain as to why a bigger spread of prizes would be more appropriate.
Also note I will be entering regardless of the prize money, I'm thinking for the teams that aren't on the same level and have no chance in taking 1st place.

I dunno man, I really think your exagerating. MT doesnt even have a 3v3 team, there are 2 members based in brisbane, and I have nfi who we will get as a third. I have no doubt we will grab someone, but I mean come on, we dont even have a team, as things stand now we could be entering the 3v3 comp with a trained monkey.

Also at the 3v3 comp over at cyber room there was another 3v3 team that kicked ass, they came second. They knocked us into the loser brackets, then we came back in the finals and beat them. At the end of the day the score was even against them. Also wang came third, I think wang is good but they only came third at that comp, and I dont even know who that 3v3 team was! They could of played that game for a fortnight for all I know.

you're just a better player than us and theres nothing we can do.

I hold my opinion that there is no 3v3 team that cant compete, and take first. Right now there are no established 3v3 teams, and the best team I can name got 3rd in the last comp. Add to that the point there is 4 months till this comp starts, and you have one hell of a competitive leauge. The team that came second didnt lose a single game till the finals, and who were they? Prolly guys who have been playing for a very short amount of time, got 1 strat, and got really good at it.

Also another thing to note it doesnt matter if we can beat you every time, if we cant do well against everyone then we dont even make it to the finals.

me and clitpo or whatever really suck @ 2v2 aswell, we just got lucky big time @ the bunker's competition. so relax man, you got 4months practise b4 hand and we are definately beatable.

The team that came second didnt lose a single game till the finals, and who were they? Prolly guys who have been playing for a very short amount of time, got 1 strat, and got really good at it.

no actually, we (wang) just got a very bad draw. We never got to play the team that came 2nd otherwise we woulda whooped em.

OMFG IM SO IN IT =]
I think that second prize listing is 100x better for the War 3 community =]

same draxy.
You want to encourage people to play not cut them off by giving them no chance at all at prize money.

no way. I hate solo and so does the rest of wang. Why? its not that we *suck* at it, we all have semi-decent levels. The reason is because its all frustration.
Solo is all about cheese and it can drive you crazy with anger. Makes us hate the game.

solo shows how well you yourself can actually play the game, most people are inclined to 2on2 because it seems easier..

but i don't know anyone unfortunately that could probably beat clipto in solo atm :P

so the money it most likely go to him, go away sickness :P

I don't think MT are unbeatable =]
I think they practice harder than most players though. The "they have already won it" attitude is just unsettling. I myself have caused a few upsets in the past, and Im not an elite player. I will practice alot harder with this little incentive, and my creed shall be "DOWN WITH GLADE!... and maybe clipto" ;]
Sif Jake isnt going to be your 3v3 partner, or did he actually leave war 3?

no actually, we (wang) just got a very bad draw. We never got to play the team that came 2nd otherwise we woulda whooped em.

I never said anything about your draw. We lost to them, if your so confident you would of slaughtered them thats great, but we lost to them, yet we are so much better than you (so you say). Seems to me that the best players are not so obvious after all.

You want to encourage people to play not cut them off by giving them no chance at all at prize money.

It really makes no sense at all to claim people have "no chance" at winning, its like you havent read anything I have said.

Once more :) There are no dominant 3v3 teams. 4 months down the track things will get even more competitive.

I think a key attribute for a competition is to get players that are competitive. I dont think people who are willing to settle for 8th will neccessarily hang around for the duration of the leauge.

If you keep the prize money high, then people will start practising now. They will see the leauge through to the end because they have put so much into it, and they want first place.

Jake is in Canberra, and Glade alone has beaten me many times, and of course so have many others :)

Really guys, you have 4 freaking months, quit selling yourselves short, 8th prise? Look at all the big online comps, how the f*** could anyone expect to win with any certainty? They cant, but they are all hugely successfull. The best comps, have the best prizes for 1, second, and MAYBE third.

I totally agree, there are no dominant 3v3 teams. And 2v2 is still iffy. I reckon you should stop worrying about how good other players are, and try to better yourself. The only limitations are those you place on yourself.
I hope we get more unknown clans in there, they will prolly kick our combined asses too =]

Also Please dont run it on the Easter sat-sunday as I go camping every year fromt he friday to the sunday =] Small request, otherwise tell me what to do if I miss one of the rounds. Hope my partner doesnt kill me.

i didn't say MT was unbeatable... but bloody hard.. and i know only a few people in brisbane with good solo recs which are clip and fanta :P

Lucky it isnt solo then =p

Lucky it isnt solo hey?

We lost to them, if your so confident you would of slaughtered them thats great, but we lost to them, yet we are so much better than you (so you say). Seems to me that the best players are not so obvious after all.

you lost to them on a gay map that no one had ever played before and wasn't meant for competition.

I only think you own us in solo, I think moth and I have a good chance of winning the 2vs2, and the 3vs3 with jerds. Thats why I said i'd be entering regardless of the prize money decision.

Also, as we said the strategy you guys happened to pick for the 3vs3 was, and is (so far) the only counter to the strategy we've developed. Unfortunately on the day we couldn't think a way around beating it, and so we lost.

reckon you should stop worrying about how good other players are, and try to better yourself.

im not worrying, I just thought it would be better for the wc3 community if the prize money was divided to include lower place rankings.

You see this is a wc3 league, except it doesn't have division.
The CS league TB run has 3 divisions each with 1st and 2nd (and 3rd?) prizes for each division, so in essence its the same as just going down to 6th place or whatever.

Really guys, you have 4 freaking months, quit selling yourselves short, 8th prise? Look at all the big online comps, how the f*** could anyone expect to win with any certainty? They cant, but they are all hugely successfull. The best comps, have the best prizes for 1, second, and MAYBE third.

Because they have diversity. You're looking at the best players from all over the world.

We're talking about gamers in brisbane, over 16 weeks of competition...


I think we should at least have a 3rd place.

you lost to them on a gay map that no one had ever played before and wasn't meant for competition.

Nevertheless they beat us, and they beat everyone else they played as well, except for 1 game. You never played them, so you can only guess how well you would do. IMO it would of been a competitive game, and looking at the performance of both teams in the comp if anyone had the upper hand I would say it was them.

I think moth and I have a good chance of winning the 2vs2, and the 3vs3 with jerds.

I agree, anyone can win this leauge, yourselves included.

Because they have diversity. You're looking at the best players from all over the world.

I thought they were successfull because they had big cash prizes for 1st place, and this attracts the players. Despite the fierce competition, people feel they can win regardless (and of course the game is mad).

We're talking about gamers in brisbane, over 16 weeks of competition...

Ok, well I think I have made a valid point that anyone can win this leauge, because there is no dominant team in Brisbane.

I think we should at least have a 3rd place.

Yea some sort of "token" third place seems like a good idea, I always thought that was what the second prise was for, you came so far, you got second, you deserve something, I dont think that should carry down to eight.

I think its the first prize that will draw the numbers though, it always has been befor, I see no reason why it wouldnt this time, and I honestly think you guys havent supplied one. It will also get people more competitive at this game, and they will be more likely to stick with the leauge.

i got no 2on2 partner in brisbane :((

Nevertheless they beat us, and they beat everyone else they played as well, except for 1 game. You never played them, so you can only guess how well you would do. IMO it would of been a competitive game, and looking at the performance of both teams in the comp if anyone had the upper hand I would say it was them.

By watching them play and the strategy they used, we would have been able to defeat them easily enough. As I said before, we lose to you guys because the strategy you picked happened to be the only counter we've seen so far to our strategy.

I thought they were successfull because they had big cash prizes for 1st place, and this attracts the players. Despite the fierce competition, people feel they can win regardless (and of course the game is mad).

you mis-understood what I meant.

I mean that the reason that so many people enter, is because that its an online comp anyone from anywhere in the world can enter, and so the competition is huge and very tight because there are the best players from all over the world any of them have a chance at 1st place.
Rather with this league match there are only the best players in Brisbane, the competition isn't very broad.

Right now everyone on this forum have in some way played each other. I would be looking at promoting this league to alot of international students, so we will see a variety of people who haven't played each other before. There is still 4 months to this league, so anything can happen. Most of you I know from my previous competition, all of you have a chance at 1st prize, 2nd prize etc. All of you are good.

Remember, it is a league, so even if you lose in the 1st round, 2nd second, etc, you still have a chance to go into the playoffs. And anything can happen in the playoffs. You could be the last team in the playoffs but win the finals! you never know unless you try :) dont let negative issues stop you from aiming at 1st prize. Even if you lose or dont make it into the playoffs, you will have my respect and everyone elses (I hope) for giving it your best shot.

You keep repeating that, but you just dont back it up with anything. 3v3 games are inherently simple to play, if you started a 3v3 team now from scratch, and kept with it for 3 or 4 months you would be competitive against just about anyone.

Also saying that you would of beaten those guys, when you had never even played them, is unreasonable. For all you know they had a brilliant strategy for use against you guys, not so unlikely considering you are the best known team. Or maybe they were just better microers. I mean they only lost ONE game, you cant have any IDEA how they react to different strats based on that.

Yea marketing for the international crowd is a good call. They could make up the core of the leauge, I wonder what prize structure they would go for the most.

Yer, should be great.
Ignore those two, the second prize listing is fine.

They are both "fine", the question is which one is better, better being the prize that draws the most people.

The second is better. Simple as. More people will enter. And in the end its not about a huge 1st 2nd prize, its about a good game.

Then why have any prize at all :)

Fact is, you get the good games, because you get the most amount of people entering. In the past, the best comps have been the ones with the best first, second, and third prize.

The difference between prizes is good enough. If you only have first and second and possibly third, people like swat0r and the rest of wang wont enter. At least the posibility of winning something is still there with the new prize listing.

Maybe have 1st-4th and have something like MVP awards and stuff?
I dont know, I dont like the HUGE first and Second prize option. Prefer it spread out a little.

Then why have any prize at all :)

Then you wouldn't have entrance fees and all would be well...
Also, prizes are there to make it competitive.

Didnt the wang guys say they would enter regardless?

I think for a tourney to be successfull you need people entering who are competitive and think they can win. The higher the prize money for the winners means you get more people in the tourney, if you get people who are ok with eighth, they wont neccessarily hang around. This is getting ridiculous :) im constantly repeating myself and you guys arent addressing any of my arguments.

Put it this way. To us, it appears as if you want a Huge first prize cause your greedy =]
I dont agree with the 1st and 2nd making it more competitive... it'll just make it more annoying when you finish the season in the top eight lose two rounds in the finals and know your effort/cash is all for nothing.
Id rather compete to get into the finals to get a place. 1st would be good.

Please note, the greedy thing is just how its coming across, you may not be =p

ok.....whos going :) if theres actaully a good team going then i wont bother :P please no gosu's :)

so the prize money is of the new revised one? wehre u get money even for 8th place?

is the map list decided?

No nothing completely decided yet =]
But a few people are suggesting things.

I think for a tourney to be successfull you need people entering who are competitive and think they can win.

Then you wont get many teams entering.

how many GOOD 2v2 teams are there in brisbane or surrouding area?

That we know of?
Well there are a few.
I mean, there was a surprise at the bunker when the RiPs 2v2 team surprised everyone with their skills. And at the 3v3 comp there was a korean team that did very well too. Its a shame it wasnt a best of 3 finals =\
And in a few months, who is to say who hasnt improved alot.

muahahahahahahahaaah *evil grin*

Reminded me of daffy duck.

Greedy? Well as said befor, if they dont get the numbers, the prize money will be reduced. If we dont get enough people maybe there wont even be a tourney. So everything I have said is geared towards getting the most people in the tourney, who are prepared to play the whole way through.

If I was greedy, then I would just go with the suggestion that we get lots of little prizes, then people who are happy with 8th would enter, and it would be easier to clean up. With my first suggestion, I may win nothing, especially considering I dont even have a 3v3 team, but im going to go the whole way, and give it my best shot regardless, and I think thats the atittude the players in the comp need.

If you have people in the comp who will whine and moan because they are playing the "best" 3v3 team, then quit, how can the comp be successfull? People should be happy to play the best ranked team, so they can knock their ranking down when they beat them.

I dont think its lotsa little prizes. Maybe have less prize spots... maybe. But No less than 4.
Divy it up anyway you want, but if there is only first and second, it would make the weeks of effort and money spent pointless.
I know a few(4-6) people who would enter the comp if there were 4-8 prize slots, so Im leaning towards that option. Nothing will really change my mind from that.
So Im bowing out of this discusion.

either have more prize rankings, or simply divide the competition into divisions.
Have like 2-4 weeks in qualifiers or whatever, and then sort the teams into respective divisions. Say 3 divisions each with 1st and 2nd placings.

Ala the bunker TBGL

If the competition were to be divided into divisions, how would we judge if someone belongs in A division or B division???

How do we know if an experienced team will not join the noob division???

run qualifiers.

Also, you have the best divison with the most prize money and scale it down to the lowest division.

Hi All

Haven't replied to this post for a while, been away for 2 weeks. Must have thought that this league might not go ahead :P
Register your team now! for this league. Lets make Warcraft 3 something big in Brisbane!!


Here are the details:

Dates
League Start Date - 31/03/2003
League End Date - 27/07/2003

Registration End Date - 24/03/2003

Duration - 16 weeks plus 1 week playoffs and finals

- Each team plays once a week, either on Monday, Tuesday or Thursday night.


Cost:
- Registration fee $25.00 per person per event (non-refundable)
- $8.00 per person per week per event (Discount applies if joining both events)


Structure
- Ladder Scoring System
- Winner get 3 points, Loser get 1 point
- Prize money for the top 6 teams per event


XCape Address
Clements Arcade, 51 Sherwood Rd, Toowong
(Opposite 7-11 & next to Commonwealth Bank)
TEL: (07) 3870 8100
MOBILE: 0403 172 872
EMAIL: XCape@Internode.on.net


• Prize money is conditional upon getting more than 25 teams per event and a 80% minimum attendance rate each week. May be adjusted if these conditions are not met. Prize money may also jackpot if more than 32 teams are competing.

so did you make a decision on the prize money or did you decide to leave it unchanged?

and you decided to stick with 2vs2 and 3vs3 rather than solo and a 2vs2?

hmm I might be keen to enter the 2v2 comp - but only if I can get a good partner who is willing to practice.

My battlenet a/c - thend currently lvl 13

top level 16 and top ranking 140 in the world. Sporadic playing over the past 3 months led to level drops.

If anyone who is a good player is keen, email me at afitchett@optusnet.com.au

Id probly be interested....If Hemerage doesnt wanna ill get someone else :D

Ill be signing up for 2v2 with my new warcraft III partner. Expect to see us in there soon Xcape =]

Prize Money has changed. There is 6 prizes for the top 6 teams in each event.

2 V 2
1st Prize $3000
2nd Prize $1500
3rd Prize $ 800
4th Prize $ 400
5th Prize $ 180
6th Prize $ 150


3 V 3
1st Prize $4500
2nd Prize $2250
3rd Prize $1200
4th Prize $ 600
5th Prize $ 270
6th Prize $ 225


Hope to see you all soon for the league. Help spread the word so that there is competition :)

We have decided to stick with 2 v 2 and 3 v 3 swator.

If this league goes well, we might introduce 1 v 1. We decided to stick to these 2 events due to the response of our last Warcraft competition.

Excellent =]

say hi to JULIAN for me loong!

good news, ill be signing up

I think for the next league you'd wanna do a solo and 2vs2 tho, because Qld has most of australias best solo players, of whom would be dismayed at the absence of such a common competition type.

Will keep that in mind swator. Lets see how this league goes! :)

Looking for a 2v partner.
I've had a few offers so far, but I will team up with the best player available.

email jerdiv@hotmail.com
with your record and "WAR3" in the topic.

Oh, I just read the last post...

Only 1 game per week?

I think it should be 2. A lot of people will have to travel far for this, and when a game might got for only 12 minutes...

A best of 3 each week =]

I wonder how good moon-glade and the others are going to be. They have all been playing beta for a while now. And it doesnt affect your normal war 3 game a little.

yeah draxy....i used paint to put in the "h" its the only non genuine letter