Michael Moore, doing what he does best, as he explores the issue of gun related violence in the USA. Everyone should see it. Bowling for Columbine, a black satirical comedy, documentary, and manipulation through editing at its best. Thoroughly amusing and insightful.

And just in case you're one of those people who relies on the opinions of others.

Enjoy :)

Interesting s***.

sifnt 2 free tickets 2 free tickets.. sifnt 2 free tickets..

o yeah. ass.

Advance screenings sunday at the dendy.... 6:20pm. not sure of the other sesh times

mite actually make the effort to go see this

i like michael moores style

I saw this last night, I thought it was very well done, although Moore being the bleeding heart that he is, it gets tiresome at times. An extraordinarily quick 2 hours (for a documentary!)

looks interesting

it's good to see a yank with a head on his shoulders taking the piss out of other yanks

Wow, that looks great. I can't believe I haven't seen it yet.

I love it when the bank gives him a gun for one of their promotions and he says, "Dont you think it's a dangerous giving out guns in a bank?"

Can't wait to see this. Americans can be so f***ed up.

8-)

One interesting anacdote from the movie was that the NRA was founded the very same year that the KKK disbanded.

At the end of the day the film actually achieves something; Moore manages to force K-Mart to withdraw the sale of bullets from all 1100 or whatever stores nationwide!

Anyhoo, it's a must see.

Too many sections reminded me of 60 minutes. Other than that though...

dRanged. Did you stay for the discussion panel?

No, I stayed for the free drinks :)

Heheh ok. The discussion panel was amusing in any case. And the free drinks of course :)

I spoke to a couple of the panelists afterwards, that was worthwhile. The actual forum was pretty ordinary..

the NRA was founded the very same year that the KKK disbanded.

Cue the X-Files Music :D

Might go and see this one if it's screening on the Northside.

sifnt 2 free tickets 2 free tickets.. sifnt 2 free tickets..

Did you win these in the courier-mail? Mum enters those things every chance she gets, she won the 1st place prize for Blue Crush which included a 2 day holiday at a fancy resort i think...

It was a very good film indeed, everybody go and see it. Now.

good film, had a few problems with they way they edited a few of the scenes
but very edumakational and stuff and a very good laugh.

if it wasnt for the fact it was at the dendy id go see it again.

I've heard it's full of inaccuracies and mistakes, which is fine for Mike's shows, but when he's making a doco gotta be a little more truthful.

Supposedly the whole go-in-to-bank-get-given-gun thing is completely fake. he had to go buy his own gun and take it in there to walk out with it.

In case you are interested, Forbes do a quick four point take down in Bowl-o-drama and there's a more indepth look at it on Spinsanity - Viewer Beware.

As inaccurate semi-docos go, at least Black Hawk Down had tonnes of guns and cool helicopter crashes :-)

Very interesting links natslovR
well worth the read.....when u watch Moores stuff u would hope he would be moore;) honest to his audiance......as he dashes corporate America for there practices..

yeah unfortunately he is just a big fat liar like the people he persecutes

ironic in the extremes

Anyone coming out of that movie thinking it was all true and legitimate as it was portrayed, obviously needs a lesson in film making. At least the core ideas/points were true. There are flaws within the forbes and spinsanity arguments too. :)

If the movie makes a few thousand, or hundreds of thousands of people, think more about the topic of gun related crime, then it has succeeded.

Now go see it!

Why would they need a lesson in film making?

I wouldn't write the whole film off because he bends the truth here and there. He is a raging leftie, you do need to discount some of what he presents (he is an entertainer afterall) You'd probably find some of what you (and I) consider to be bleeding lies to be simply a matter of perspective, from where he sits.

As TreeOfLife says the overall emphasis and direction of the documentary/film is legitimate. I especially liked Chris Rock's suggestion that bullets should cost $5000 each ;)

because every documentary has a point of view to present and you'd be hard pressed to find a completely honest, objective doco. To make a film interesting for certain audiences, certains things need to occur, certain views to be focused on, and in this documentary's case, the 'leftist' view is one being pushed (so much so that it itself becomes humourous). As i said in the first post, editing at its best, and it's too true. Without such 'manipulative' editing, i'm sure the film would have came across as far weaker and less interesting. Thus if you came out of the film thinking it was portraying the ultimate truth, then you need to realise that film is all about manipulation of the audience, no matter the genre. Skepticism is sometimes your best friend. :)

On a somewhat unrelated note, nothing is better than having your point of view confirmed, and i would say most non-US (or self-loathing US) audiences would be cheering (physically or mentally) throughout the entire movie. And yes I'm generalising :)

(yes i was harsh saying one would need a lesson in film making. Just trying to manipulate the reader. :)

ill just let someone else smack down micheal moore...

check out this article which points out some of the facts and (mostly) fiction of the movie and kinda shows he isnt exactly the peoples man

from the australian here...im going to go eat moore hamburgers

I thought the movie was great. I don't care how accurate is was. It gets the message across that guns are bad. Who needs a f***ing gun anyway?

Heheh, that article reads like it was written by someone who was really personally hurt by the whole movie. I'm sure if we could see the author whilst he/she was writing it, we'd see someone furiously bashing at a keyboard, steam coming out of their ears (along with boiling red teapot-shaped head), whilst copy-pasting and then paraphrasing from other articles already written on the subject. The points are even in similar order. :)

Exactly treeoflife. Whoever wrote that for The Australian needs to lighten up a bit, for f***s sake. I'd like to see them write a movie or doco.

im completely for gun reform...i dont really see the point for having them, but im just pointing out that michael moore is a plain and simple liar that manipulates people. Id rather people see what kind of person moore really is than just accepting him at face value, which in moore's case is very misleading.

Just as wrong are reviewers' standard lines about Moore "taking on big business" and "standing up for the little guy". Moore usually stands up to the little guy, bullying sales staff and humiliating small-town folk. At the cinema where I saw Columbine, a typically open-minded and compassionate inner-city crowd giggled indulgently as Moore (aided by sneaky editing) made fools of police, PR flacks, the unemployed, the undereducated and the working class.

Millionaire Moore – who is to working class as French is to resistance, despite once spending one entire day on the Buick assembly line in his hometown of Flint, Michigan – is waging a class war, but it's against the rubes and hicks he claims to represent. They are mere joke fodder in his deceitful Playschool morality play.

yeah that is true. Would be interesting to know what/how Moore really thinks. Goes for most prominent public figures.

also ill come to your house and you can pay me $7 and ill rant about lefty, anti-american stuff for 2 hours...that way you dont have to see the movie PLUS you dont even have to leave the comfort of your own home

I didn't have to leave home to watch the movie.

8-)

But can you make it as amusing as Moore did? I mean, i got to see the WTC collapse on the big screen after all...

(warning this post may offend sensitive readers)

I think bending the truth to piss americans off is great! Cos americans are dumb!!

heh nice rev

also tree keep laying that bait down! :D hey did you play q3ctf for a while there?

I played maybe 5 rounds ever (usually at the same time with alot of ag people on the server). I play ra3 way more (10-20 mins to pass the time). I use to duel a bit before i realised i need to practise to be decent. :P

That article in the Australian article was written by Tim Blair. You can read his blog here. He has a stong dislike of Mike Moore, but nothing out of the ordinary for a right-wing anti-anti-war blogger.

If you follow his blog, then you'd find the Australian article to be not over the top at all.. He doesn't need to settle down you are just reading him wrong.

i'm sure i'm going to express this poorly but here's a shot. As far as i can see the innacurracies listed in that article are minor nit-picking things, they don't even dint moore's hypothesis. This Tim Blair tard seems to have missed the point entirely, either willfully or just because he doesn't have the capacity to see the big picture moore was presenting.

What moore was trying to prove that America's problems aren't just the fact that they all have guns and a lot of them, it's the fact that they have a culture of fear and violent retaliation combined with gun ownership. Really Moore wasn't idolising the Canadians he was using them to show just how stupid the American mindset is, the best example is of the woman who said her house was broken into and people vandalised it while she was asleep, when asked if she'd have attacked them she just looked at him like it was the dumbest question ever asked and said no. I guarantee 70% of Americans would have said they'd shoot him without hesitation.

As far as i can see Blair has fixated on the superficial content of the doco (ie. the columbine backstory) which was though enlightenting not the point of the movie at all, it was simply their to act as the stage in which Moore operated.

I don't think Moore is a genius and throughout much of the movie he came accross as a drama-queen. But it's not easy to present a hypothesis like he did in a medium where it is accessible to millions.

Hmmm, that was pretty good Denny.

I also thought the story of the mother who's son shot that girl in grade 1 was pretty sad. I love watching cool doco's like these. Another good one was that One Day In September about the Munich Olympics. Some crazy-ass s*** happened back then.

Speaking of One Day in September. People criticised the way the government and law enforcement was portrayed as it was apparently inaccurate. Some also complained that it was too one-sided and that the view of the terrorists needed more film-time and exploration. It wasn't objective enough... Duh. But it sure made the movie better.

also all teh nit pickings in that article can be argued on what the money was actually used for, and as for the bank scene not being real, so what, i went to the movie expecting a laugh not a f***ing serious documentry, that scene was in there purely for that.

I must admit I loved the film and even with its inaccuracies it does raise a lot of noteworthy points. However the one bit that had me a bit downcast, despite the end result, was the pressure put on K-mart to stop selling handgun bullets in its stores. To me it seemed like Mike was using those two surviving kids from Columbine to further his own agenda, just like every other politician or interest group (insert the Simpson’s cry of “oh won’t someone please think of the children!”).

i thought the end with charleton heston was just sad. heston couldnt give a flying f*** about hosting NRA rallies immediately after columbine and that other one when that little girl got killed, didnt know anything and didnt want to know anything.. typifies an american.

his responses on why there are more gun murders in america were about on par with pauline hansons intellect