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GeNociDe
Posts: 8
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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While copying from CD-rom my CPU useage skyrockets. actually mostly to 100%. this makes watching movies annoying and .. well anything to do with my CD-rom chunks along.
some1 mentioned that this http://members.optushome.com.au/odie84/cdgay.jpg has something to do with it. the PIO mode. how can i fix this?! any help appreciated. |
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| #0 07:13pm 27/08/02 |
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Morgish
Posts: 2868
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
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try changing ide cable and update ya ide controler drivers.
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| #1 07:37pm 27/08/02 |
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Erik-the-Red
Posts: 169
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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make sure it's not in PIO mode. make sure it's in DMA
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| #2 07:38pm 27/08/02 |
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StopShootingMe
Posts: 1599
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Is your CD-ROM on its own IDE channel? If not is it slave or master? See if DMA is activated. Actually, DMA shouldn't affect anything in this case. Ignore that :)
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| #3 07:39pm 27/08/02 |
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Boxhead
Posts: 3357
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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what version windows?
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| #4 07:50pm 27/08/02 |
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Hunter
Posts: 6585
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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As has already been mentioned, it sounds like your drive is running in PIO mode - which basically relies on the CPU to control the data transfers over the bus. By default, Win2k and Win9x don't enable DMA for CD-ROMS, and no doubt XP probably doesn't either.
Go to: Control Panel->System->Device Manager->IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers then go right click the channel your CDROM drive is on, then go to advanced settings and then see if DMA or PIO is enabled. |
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| #5 08:07pm 27/08/02 |
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dangles
Posts: 2447
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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are u guys stupid didnt u look at the screenshot he took, it blantantly says its running in PIO mode.
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| #6 09:23pm 27/08/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 11
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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1stly i would just like to say, did ANY of you open the link i posted? heh.
my cd-rom is on my secondary channel and PIO mode IS enabled. i want to disable it. but CANT. for those who are too lazy to click the link |
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| #7 09:25pm 27/08/02 |
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dangles
Posts: 2448
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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| #8 09:26pm 27/08/02 |
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Denny
Posts: 1627
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Genocide: check out your BIOS to see if that particular IDE channel (Secondary Slave) is being forced to use PIO.
Also if it's any old drive it's very possible it can only use PIO mode. |
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| #9 09:26pm 27/08/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 12
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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ok. heres some more info.
win2k service pack 2. asus a7v133c. diamond data cdrw 30*6*4 is the cd-rom. i'm running the latest via 4 in 1's. this started since around about my last win reinstall. there is no option in the bios to force any pio mode, although the boot screen does report the drive is running in mode4 (whatever this is. PIO?) as far as i can tell i cant change it from anywhere. |
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| #10 09:34pm 27/08/02 |
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WhoopAss
Posts: 1439
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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man I don't think ANYONE saw the picture. I laugh at you all.
I'm sorry but I don't know how to fix it I just thought I'd mention the tardness of some people. Check your BIOS settings, maybe something in there is set to PIO, if you have power DVD run it's little dma check utility thingo to see if it is set to DMA and if it's not, try setting it. Other than that, I don't think an IDE cable would make much difference since my cd rom says it's on DMA and it's only an old IDE 40pin/40 conductor, it's not a 40p/80c ATA100 cable. edit: I shoould have refreshed before I posted :( |
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| #11 09:59pm 27/08/02 |
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Hunter
Posts: 6588
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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are u guys stupid didnt u look at the screenshot he took, it blantantly says its running in PIO mode.I'll take the latter thanks Ken. |
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| #12 10:23pm 27/08/02 |
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Hunter
Posts: 6589
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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this started since around about my last win reinstall. there is no option in the bios to force any pio mode, although the boot screen does report the drive is running in mode4 (whatever this is. PIO?) Mode 4 is PIO, maximum transfer rate of 16 MB/sec. Speed plus. |
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| #13 10:25pm 27/08/02 |
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dangles
Posts: 2449
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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how can he fix it?
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| #14 10:29pm 27/08/02 |
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Rubba-Chikin
Posts: 1571
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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seeing it says DMA if available in both boxes and is set to PIO, maybe the drive is too old like someone suggested?
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| #15 10:30pm 27/08/02 |
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CaPt0
Posts: 2214
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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I had exactly the same problem Geno, try getting new firmware for your Cd-Rom and it will fix it. I had to flash my Plextor from 1.02 to 1.04 and now it works perfectly in DMA rather than pio
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| #16 10:39pm 27/08/02 |
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dangles
Posts: 2452
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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it used to run in dma mode before, if u also read stuff u woulda found that out also.
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| #17 10:43pm 27/08/02 |
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Hemerage
Posts: 2522
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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and he told u the fix .. now go fukin fix it
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| #18 10:43pm 27/08/02 |
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cyph
Posts: 2269
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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By default, Win2k and Win9x don't enable DMA for CD-ROMS, and no doubt XP probably doesn't either. Weird, I never had to change anything to make win2k use DMA on my cd burner. |
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| #19 10:44pm 27/08/02 |
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dangles
Posts: 2453
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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honestly half u guys dont even know what u are talking about.
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| #20 10:46pm 27/08/02 |
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Hemerage
Posts: 2523
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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neither ...
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| #21 10:46pm 27/08/02 |
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Hemerage
Posts: 2524
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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then why the f*** did u come here if u
#1: dont think anyone has a clue #2: cbf trying out a possible solution |
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| #22 10:47pm 27/08/02 |
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dangles
Posts: 2454
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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grrr, if u guys actually read the posts u might know what i am talking about.
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| #23 11:00pm 27/08/02 |
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Hemerage
Posts: 2525
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeha ok it has worked b4 .... something has obviously changed
how bout u try what capto said then come back if it didnt work |
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| #24 11:02pm 27/08/02 |
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CaPt0
Posts: 2215
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Mine used to work in DMA also until I added 4 more drives to my machine and change motherboards from an Asus A7M266 to Asus A7V266-E. Once I had this new configuration my plextor just would not go out of PIO.
I spent a day trying to work it out then decided to check plextors site for a new firmware and found a new one. Sine then it has worked perfectly. |
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| #25 11:06pm 27/08/02 |
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HeardY
Posts: 4111
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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thanks guys one of my cd roms was pio, i changed it, it works better now :)
also what are the dma modes? i have 1 hdd on mode 4 and 1 on mode 5 also i have a raid board and a hdd on the raid ide chan, can i find out what dma mode that runs? i assume its dma 5 = ata 100 or something?? thanks /me is noob at these hardware things |
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| #26 11:21pm 27/08/02 |
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CaPt0
Posts: 2216
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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mode DMA 4 = ATA66
DMA 5 = ATA100 |
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| #27 11:24pm 27/08/02 |
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thrax
Posts: 821
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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yeah thanks for the help on that, I was having the same problem myself!
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| #28 11:29pm 27/08/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 14
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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thx to every1. specially capto who went out of his way for me. i havent fixed it yet. mainly because i am BONED. ta.
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| #29 11:42pm 27/08/02 |
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HeardY
Posts: 4112
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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thanks capto - but all my drives are ata100.
strange, something to look into i guess |
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| #30 12:10am 28/08/02 |
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HeardY
Posts: 4113
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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doh! i just researched the drive, its only ata66 this is a few year old 20gb drive its 7200rpm but only ata66 :(
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| #31 12:15am 28/08/02 |
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Denny
Posts: 1641
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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i tried to help :(
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| #32 01:33am 28/08/02 |
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HeardY
Posts: 4115
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
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denny: you can help again ;)
also i have a raid board and a hdd on the raid ide chan, can i find out what dma mode that runs? i assume its dma 5 = ata 100 or something?? tell me, tell me now! :P |
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| #33 12:56pm 28/08/02 |
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Hunter
Posts: 6592
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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seeing it says DMA if available in both boxes and is set to PIO, maybe the drive is too old like someone suggested? Actually, a box came in today, and to cut a long story short, we installed a new 52x CD-ROM and surprise surprise it would only run in PI0 Mode 4 - no DMA. But wait it gets better - the old 40x ran perfectly fine in UDMA/ATA 33! |
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| #34 08:07pm 28/08/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 20
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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the firmware update fixed it, although really that makes no sense since i havent changed ANYTHING to make it run in PIO.
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| #35 08:11pm 28/08/02 |
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DeePer
Posts: 2537
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
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What a cool thread, you guys set this up nicely. GeN asks for help, dangles tells everyone that is attempting to help GeN to get f***ed.
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| #36 09:58am 29/08/02 |
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Chod
Posts: 687
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Weird, I never had to change anything to make win2k use DMA on my cd burner. Cyph is exactly right. In win2k all drives are auto set to what you have set in your BIOS. If you have a look in ur bios (well most latest biosii) you will find DMA and PIO modes. You can select what you want in there. Default is DMA. However in win98, it simply uses PIO unless you tick the little DMA box thingy in ur drive specs. I just worked that out the other day when my gateway was giving me hassles. Oh and my burner will not work in DMA. Its very old so i assume the old drives dont really have support for DMA :(. Need to buy a new one someday... |
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| #37 10:08am 29/08/02 |
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Hunter
Posts: 6601
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Cyph is exactly right. In win2k all drives are auto set to what you have set in your BIOS. If you have a look in ur bios (well most latest biosii) you will find DMA and PIO modes. You can select what you want in there. Default is DMA. Wrong. I have UDMA/ATA 33 set for my CDROM in the BIOS and Windows 2000 defaults to PIO mode. This is the case and has been the case on a heap of other computers that I've installed Windows 2000 on. |
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| #38 10:18am 29/08/02 |
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Chod
Posts: 688
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Strange...
Every time i have installed win2k my install detects whats in the BIOS and sets it in the settings in win2k?!!?!?! I set my burner to PIO a while ago and it detected that. I set my new hdd to UDMA 5 and it detected it too! I have installed win2k about 3 times, always detected my bios settings. |
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| #39 11:35am 29/08/02 |
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Gunman-187
Posts: 67
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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OMFG!! YOUR SO f***ING COOL, WHEN I GROW UP I WANT TO BE YOU!@%R#@%*
not. |
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| #40 09:56pm 30/08/02 |
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GeNociDe
Posts: 34
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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go away idiot
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