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Topic: water cooled PC's (pic's inside)
bi_channel_subwoffer
Posts: 534
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
wow.
http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/Intel/Northwood/P42533@4244.gif
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HeardY
Posts: 3735
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
foollly leeet!! bro

also using win me, well thats what it says in screenie :P
Exocet
Posts: 2918
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Sik boiz!

What have they done, covered everything in a protective film and just have computer parts submurged in water?
bi_channel_subwoffer
Posts: 535
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
its a water cooled system
HeardY
Posts: 3741
Location: Sydney, New South Wales
crap


nice guess exo
skizm0
Posts: 55
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
rofl.. water gg
Exocet
Posts: 2923
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not wanting to flamewar, but what's a 'subwoffer'?
Stu
Posts: 339
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
a subwoofer for a dyslexic person
Fireblood
Posts: 819
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
LOL wish i had the money to risk my computer like that.....but its f***ed enough already
bi_channel_subwoffer
Posts: 536
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
i fond some pictures along the same lines as this computer with a simlar setup:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~eel/got/fase2/Dsc00037.jpg

http://mashie.glassbil.net/casemods/pics/syrinix_r2_06.jpg
http://www.filias.com/pc5.jpg
http://www.planetunreal.com/teamorbit/shadowtemp/watercool/wat2.jpg
i like this 1
http://home.attbi.com/~ManSoNN/Case/Dark1.jpg

and BTW: a bi-channel- subwoffer is a basic sub woffer with 4 connections 2 the speaker, 2 for left, 2 for right. therefore getting the base from both left and right channels.
bi_channel_subwoffer
Posts: 537
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
notice in the 1st and 2nd pic there anrnt any fans
Exocet
Posts: 2924
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I...I....

*sigh* I give up
Skitza
Posts: 617
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
you sure its water cool.. and not LNO2 cooled??
bi_channel_subwoffer
Posts: 539
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
yea, lno2 cant flow through plastic/rubber pipes can it
???

anyway heres some more crazy stuff


http://pyrology.clanpages.com/pics/bong.final.jpg
http://www.filias.com/pc4.jpg
http://theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/032102/bongatlan.jpg
http://www.planetunreal.com/teamorbit/shadowtemp/watercool/wat1.jpg
Draffa
Posts: 1410
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
fark! Where are youn finding these?
Skitza
Posts: 618
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hes getting them from the hardforums
StopShootingMe
Posts: 1537
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Some of those setups are silly. 'Specially that guy with the 10 or so 90 degree elbows, he'll be cutting his flow rate to s***.

Neat looking, though.
Sandman
Posts: 380
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
nice, I could do with one of 'em :P
HerbalLizard
Posts: 334
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I reckon thats crap water cooling has it limitations. Yeah it looks filth and all, but imagine haulling all that s*** to a lan, pc would be house bound for sure. All it really takes is a well thought out air cooling system. There are so many f***ing problems with water cooling and refrigeration setup's t for one they cost heaps! Two they produce condensation, no matter what sort of dehumidification you tend to use. Three they can leak. Electricity and water don't mix well. Mind you if you want to prove how big ur penis is by way of water cooling be my guest.
SquarkyD
Posts: 3104
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
and BTW: a bi-channel- subwoffer is a basic sub woffer with 4 connections 2 the speaker, 2 for left, 2 for right. therefore getting the base from both left and right channels.


no thats a twin coil subwoofer, it has 2 voice coils and can be run at 2ohms off a single channel by wiring the coils together.

u could amp it twice as well but they are not designed to be run as left/right because 99% of bass is centre biast.
Suhaib
Posts: 3350
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
hhhehe true herballizard. I reckon its not worth all the trouble get a mini air-con system for your comp that should be worth it.
Rubba-Chikin
Posts: 1382
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not true, an inline setup can all fit inside your case, with the radiator bolted onto the top or back of the case.
All that is only going to add a couple of kilo's max to your system weight.
If you cant handle an few extra kilos here and there u need to go do some exercise!

The only time you are going to get condensation with watercooling is when you are working with water near freezing point, or peltiers, which isnt very often, and usually only for the hardcore fellas.

Watercooling is pretty safe as long as you know what you are doing and dont use cheap crap parts.

I would watercool, the only thing thats holding me back is the cost of it all.

The biggest advantage you are all missing here is that its virtually SILENT compared to an air cooled system packed with deltas, and even so the watercooling is going to perform better than that air system anyday.
HerbalLizard
Posts: 336
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^I'll agree with that however there are always the inherant risks with it. They tend to leak after a while so yeah I had one myself. although not inline, so have serval mates of mine. I ended up getting rid of it. There is far to much f***ing around with them and they are high maintenace.

I could go on for ever about the disadvantages of such systems. Yes they are quieter than a air setup. They cost a fortune, $600 for mine after I got all the gear imported from the states before it was commerically avaible in australia.

If you want to put one of these systems into place you need to look at how big ur case is how much power is it gunna chew, does the pump use mains power, water block size and flow rate + puwp size and flow rate, plus it needs to be either all copper or all alloy.Algae is a major problem.

But the best way to troubleshoot leaks is to use a UV dye and spot it with a black light.
pilsudski
Posts: 520
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
my computer is watercooled and my last one was also watercooled, i only got a leak once becuase i used cheap taps for my 3 tap system, now its all properly done

it doesnt weigh much at all either, the heaviest thing out of my computer is the case itself, anyhow the whole thing weighs 25kg which is probably as much as hunter weighs

totaly portable, quiet, safe and well performing
Suhaib
Posts: 3355
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
How much did it cost you all together>
bi_channel_subwoffer
Posts: 541
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
no thats a twin coil subwoofer, it has 2 voice coils and can be run at 2ohms off a single channel by wiring the coils together.

u could amp it twice as well but they are not designed to be run as left/right because 99% of bass is centre biast.


then explain my subwoffer? (sorry about the focus)


http://www.msnusers.com/mypicture?user=4263~3AAAAA4AAE2G*huEY*avrtCFTvK3ImUlNMo4mTBRaCxQm8Qfq05Q6ckw$$~3AAAAA5AAGr28cvBveGcsTkq4*sXjCLlsUVGIiBaW!rMo$


pilsudski
Posts: 522
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
waterblock $145
Tubing $21
Radiator $105
2 x 120mm sped variable fans $70
Pump $130 (?)

add in 30 - 40 for postage of the stuff, $25 to get the radiator repaired when i drilled through it in 4 places, and the price is a little over 500 i think, oh and the full tower case about 140 cant remember
Rubba-Chikin
Posts: 1384
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
theres something id like to know,

what the f*** is a subwoffer??

theres such a thing as a subwoofer which is a speaker designed for low frequency output, or primarily for bass in other words.

a typo once ok, but its spelt W O O F E R
its not that hard, get some basic english skills already.
Loki
Posts: 1316
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^^ hahahahah yeah "woffer" was startin to s*** me as well.

The posting name "bi_channel_subwoofer/woffer" is pretty f***ed up as well...

I'd STILL like to know wtf you are doing on this thread granted you're so 'cool' and not a 'nerd'... *sigh*...

It's rhetorical so don't bite and start a flame war, I shall delete this post if it does anyway.
monkeymajik
Posts: 193
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
If that first overclock is even real...which i seriously doubt, it would be liquid nitrogen, vapochill, or a huge peltier sandwitch. No chance in hell that is a straight water cool.
Draffa
Posts: 1411
Location: Sunshine Coast, Queensland
Re water and electricity. Water by itself is a piss poor conductor of electricity. It's the impurities in the water that do the conducting.
Morgish
Posts: 2543
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
nothing there is over specail. i dont know why u are all so inpressed.
StopShootingMe
Posts: 1538
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
^^I'll agree with that however there are always the inherant risks with it.

All the risks in water coling are manageable given sufficient planning. Most of the people who get leaks, catalytic corrosion, algae problems etc.. are those who didnt pay attention and do some research, were stupid, or who opted for cheaper parts coz they felt they were just as good as more pricey stuff.

Moral of the story: "It is a bad workman who blames his tools".
sKryBe
Posts: 1270
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
There are heaps of water cooling setups scattered all over the web. The one that impressed me most was the guy who put his PC in a bath of Flourinert and cooled it with liquid nitrogen.

Although I must say if the screenie is real getting a PC to 4GHz with just water cooling is pretty impressive. He must have an exceptionally large penis. Like all american men.

I'm starting to seriously consider water cooling as an alternative. I prefer the refridgeration systems like vapochill or kryotech but they're seriously expensive, not to mention not so easily mod-able. At least with water cooling you can bolt it into most cases. Cool PC had some nice watercooling kit that I was thinking about. But honestly I can't bring myself to put water anywhere near my PC case. Maybe come summer I might change my mind...
orbitor
Posts: 2224
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
the first one HAS to be liquid nitrogen. a few weeks ago someone posted a 3.7GHz P4 overclock on OCAU, and that was with some serious liquid nitrogen stuff, so this would have to be as well.

Note that processors do wacky s*** at these insanely cold temperatures, for instance their caches can stop working.

What i'm trying to say is that liquid nitrogen cannot be used as a practical cooling solution.
Rubba-Chikin
Posts: 1385
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
not to mention how much it would cost to run a PC 24/7 on liquid nitrogen
Gavmo
Posts: 2653
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
I...I....

*sigh* I give up
Excocet realises that stupidity is to hard to battle.
Morgish
Posts: 2546
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
pilsudski : get msn !!
StopShootingMe
Posts: 1540
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
not to mention how much it would cost to run a PC 24/7 on liquid nitrogen...

Prolly not as much as you think :) A decent price is 13c per litre. Its the hassle that prevents people from using it as a long term solution.
sKryBe
Posts: 1274
Location: Brisbane, Queensland
Not to mention the risk of spilling it on your lap and freezing your dick off... ;)

One of the biggest concerns they expressed in the article I posted was how to chill it at a reasonable rate and not freeze your transport medium (ie: the flourinert). They found when cooling it too quickly you cracked components and rendered them useless. And the second problem was the flourinert turns to jelly which in turn can't be pumped...

Their second experiment used dry ice instead of liquid nitrogen and apparently was more successful. It's a bloody interesting read.

And I reckon yeah it would be a hassle. If you wait 12 months you'll probably be buying (or able to buy) a 4GHz CPU - so why piss about trying to supercool one and OC it now? Aside from the penis size enhancments.
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