With the newly introduced bigpond AUP monitor, what is the continued purpose of limiting us to 60k/sec, if we're gonna go over the aup limit, does it really matter if we do it in 3-4 hours or in a few minutes? Perhaps some excellent BPA management skills are kicking in, being able to restrict someone to leeching f***all to stay within the aup, and being able to charge a mcs***load for anything over 60k/sec. I for one think that telstra need to address this issue.

I whole fartedly agree Terrence, but you'd think they would have thought about that by now.

Perhaps they think that because we're used to 64kb there's no point giving us more freedom so that we can hammer out our AUP faster.

s***c***!

phwoar, such a witty yet informative response from bub, gg bub

i think telstra users are being scewed by the royal scew driver.
optus very quick up to 1mb/sec
telsra let me get this at 60k/sec hrm
how gay is that
takes me 3 times as long as optus to get the same file

ox·y·mo·ron (ks-môrn, -mr-)
n., pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr, -mr) or ox·y·mo·rons.

A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence, a mournful optimist, or Bigpond Freedom Plan.

so BPA is an oxymoron?

No, "BPA Freedom" is.

Yeah, stuck on a 12-18 month contract, having your speed capped, as well as having a download AUP... that's my idea of Freedom... umm... riiiight. :)

Well I can understand the contract bit, you can't really blame them for that, thats just business. But yeah, the cap is a bit painful at times. I dont mind having an AUP slapped on me, but I do agree with cainer: why not just take the cap off and if people want to blow their entire AUP download limit thing in a few hours, then let them. And if they go silly and download too much, kick them off, might actually improve the service a bit if they whittled away some of the leechers...

oh .. and munkey its s***kunt you foulmouth faget LOA player

hahah LOA hahahaha

I am with optus, so Neerrr.. :P

no one said any thing about optus so f*** off

and uncapped UPLOAD tooo

I suppose the cap helps ease stress during peak periods. You don't have 90% of people using all their limit in a few hours. It'd probably completely screw the network up or something.


PS. Was playing quake today with 200 ping and 20% pl on BPA. Not happy.

optus has no problem so why should telstra
oh wait i forgot they suck
and my settings and tweaked connection get me 45 to 65 ping to optus
mwahahah
and i'm on non docsis

sif you wouldnt be on docsis

WOW! 45-65 ping!!
woohoo :D
i get bout 20-40 most of the day/nite on bpa

isn' the cap more there because if you had too many people downloading at max speed at one time it woudl lag the whole network severly? imagine the load on teh network at peak time if everyone leeched at that speed,it woudl be considerably more, obviously more than what the network can currently handle.

i say again optus has no problem so why should telstra

actually, i dont think removing the cap would degrade performance. If the user average is close to 50mb per day, then a minority of uncapped users downloading at high speed isnt going to effect everyone elses downloading ability. Optus have basically the same bandwidth that telstra do, and theres seems to be better performance on their network then the telstra one. It is a 155mb+ back bone in australia, so a minority of leechers using big k/sec isnt going to effect latency to australian game servers.

umm well this may have something to do wif it
1/1/01 - Current O@H Members 10,767
1/1/01 - Current BPA Members 42,894

hmmm gee i f***ing wonder

oh and cainer - it would effect latency due to TCP Packets (normal data) taking prioroity at the routers to UDP packets (gameing data), so it would increase the lag cause it's not how much data u can transfer, but how quickley u can transfer it, and more packets means more waiting at the routers.

true, i guess i falsely assumed that telstra network was up to providing a high speed low latency service, with only a small number of users downloading fast at any one time

you gotta remember telstra make huge amounts of money and spend none

Capital growth concerns highlight a need to limit expenditures... anybody knows that :)

that almost sounded intelligent dave

The downstream cap's required because the network doesn't have the bandwidth to support everyone downloading at up to 10Mb/s at any one time.

telstra pretty much sucks cock bigtime...

why would you need to put a restriction on a network as big a telstra's??

if optus were to put a cap on there stuff, i could understand, but telsta has found yet another way to infuriate its cutsomers

anywhoo, optus is better.

(i actually have dial-up and know ppl who have optus and telstra)

they could always raise the cap to 2mb

is that mbits or mbytes ?

Telstra and Optus can both go f*** themselves.

I'm done here.

pick one

Corpse, the BPA network has to be shared between ALL BPA Customers, BP Dialup customers, Corperate links(fddi etc etc), Hired Lines, and other ISP's using the Telstra Backbone. Optus's network was funded by "@ Home" a US based Cable and DSL company wif big bucks, so they got a kickass network to start wif, and ALOT less ppl on it, telstra provide a good service considering the logistics of it.

its not like optus are newcomers to the inernet thing squarky, they already had a substantial network before they introduced their broadband, they had a 155mbit backbone running parallel to telstras as well, they assumed mpx and they owned* dingoblue(not sure if they do anymore) so, they already had the infrastructure. i believe @home provided the expertise to start up the cable internet network, and are also in it as a joint venture between them and optus. @home didnt provide any .au bandwidth, and now that optus have SCC bandwidth to america, they have a quite substantial network now. Before cable, the telstra backbone was so far underutilized it wasnt funny. Im not saying that if everyone on the network were downloading at 10mbit per sec that it wouldnt suffer, coz it would, im saying that, if the user average is 50mb per day, over a period of 24 hours, then it could cope with the minority downloading at their peak for a few minutes/hours at a time, as most of the subscribers arent even using their modem most of the time, judging by the daily average. i think the bottom line comes down to telstra being able to charge alot more for more bandwidth, which is the underlying reason why theyll never remove the cap, at least not in the near/medium future.

all very good points, but i remember one night when the aDSL service was being intoduced, the telstra firmware for the cable modems didnt get received etc etc and everyone was running at full speed for about 3-4 hrs
within the 1st hour the pings went from 30-40 to 300-900, and i tried d/l and my speed was about 100 - 400k/s.

If they leave the cap BPA is a High(well...) speed, low latency net work

If they take it away, is becomes a high spees, high latency network, and the gamers will be out whinging again like last time the pings were fux0rd.

if oputs had the same number of customers, it too would have the same problem.

well the last time we were all uncapped from memory it was during the fux0rd ping area (hang on the ping still is fux0rd) and the ping actaully improved

the plot thickens...........

keep stirring it and add some more liquid it will thin out again

Just for the record, cainer, DingoBlue got bought out a month or two ago by of all companies "AGL" - (Australian Gas Light (or something like that))

Anyway, how much better is DOCSIS anyway...

atm docsis is very good coz of the limited number of ppl on it, seeing as its not on the old network, theres more bandwidth to go around, but primarily atm its better coz of the smaller number of subscribers on it, but i believe once the whole network is migrated across, itll be the same as it is now for us poor gimps on the old network (my ping rox btw, 50 pings to optus, 10-20 pings to qgl :)

optus pings are only good to certain places, BPA is basicalls < 100 pings on all good servers where o@h pings are lowen on their side of the cable, but if(like most) servers are on other networks pings can go to like 200-400 where BPA is still <100

wtf? Is BPA corrupting data or something?

rubber- wtf???

i think he's referring to you posted the same thing about 8 times