I noticed over the years there's been a fair bit of 4x4 chat around here so I'll ask here.

So, I joined the dark side and bought a 4x4. The bug is starting to bite, have already ordered a better TC, lift kit, some tyres and am looking for a bullbar that doesn't have a 999999999999% markup (I mean really, $1500+ for some metal tube welded together?).

Anyone got some recommendations on where I could go to get my toes wet? Preferably easy/mild as the only experience I've had so far is driving a Scat on the beach on Moreton.

Oh, and I bought a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Yeah yeah yeah, I don't intend on going too hardcore with mud and whatnot so I think it'll do me fine.

Drive on the Bruce highway if you want a bumpy track.

while not completely ruling out the idea of dirty markup, bullbars now require substantially more R&D because they need to work in with the airbag system in modern vehicles

as for local tracks.. those are slowly getting smothered by housing development but the bush between vennor drive and upper ormeau road at ormeau still has a nice mix from easy to doosy, there's still a few minor tracks at the back of springfield/bellbird park I think and some out at ripley

might find more info here http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/forum17.php

Cheers for the site but damnit they have a Jeep section and now I'm side tracked reading all the threads in there haha.

A search on these forums found a few QGL 4x4 trips, any of them on the horizon?

yeh if I get me finger out
bit busy moving hose etc atm

Moving that hose can take time!

I was pretty drunk in the back seat when my mates drove me into some place near ipswich.. probably just on the left of the cunningham highway a few km from ipswich motorway intersection.. Like i said i was drunk, and i'll tell you right now, when i was covered in mud after jumping out into 2ft deep mud to wind a winch out to a tree, i wasn't happy.

Actually i was pretty happy, i was laughing my ass off.

Glasshose Mountains is awesome.
Ormeau is always good but not easy/mild... well maybe if you stayed just to Vennor road.
Back of Springfield is getting smaller and smaller by the day and is pretty much gone.
Back of Comptom road is shutdown for good now.

http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/index.php for all your AusJeeping needs, they do regular SEQ runs you could tag along with. Range from beginer to hard to WTF thats Crazy. Careful though, some of them love the mud.

I own a TJ Wrangler and go out with a few guys fairly often (some from here) but not recently as my TJ is a little bit broken, should have it fixed and in Brisbane in about 2 weeks though. Coming up to Summer the days we go out do tend to reduce a bit.

doing cape york in May 2011 ! start packing

It bit me hard too, my 3" lift kit just turned up today from cal offroad, Jim will tell you that it can't go over 2" alas I will prove him wrong!
So paveway and I have got that to install on the weekend, trying to get it high enough to fit some bigger tyres under it

like Jim sort of said with the bullbars already, they are worth it .. i mean you can get away with a cheap one but when it comes down to it holding up to a front on collision, you'll be glad you paid $2k for it

$2k worth of damage is nothing for a small front on accident either, bend your radiator support and break a headlight on a modern vehicle is easily $2k with paint and panel work

If you're still learning how to drive it, I'd recommend doing some tracks just off the beaches around SE Qld

theres a few tracks that go from tin can bay road back to the beach
different levels of difficulty but none are so tough your average 4x4 wouldn't make it through, one of them takes about 2hrs to complete and theres a few different places where you can take the easy, medium or hard way up

by TC do you mean traction control? if so, scrap that all together and wait until you get so angry with getting 1/2 way up a hill that you go home and order twin diff locks

get a uhf, you'll soon get angry with replacing b82rez in your handheld types because of accidentally leaving them on when you get out of the car

What sort of car do you have tequila?

I'm thinking I'll just go 2" lift and if I have any issues I'll just chuck some wheel spacers in and cut the guards and put some flares on for bigger tyres.

By TC I meant Transfer Case. The Grand Cherokess have some funky mechanical traction control thing inside the transfer case that dies pretty easily. Mine is fubar and it's cheaper putting a stronger transfer case in then replacing the broken bit. As an added bonus I get 2hi, 4full time, 4hi offroad, 4lo instead of just full time 4hi and 4lo.

I'd absolutely love doing Cape York. Would love to see the entire top end. Have been starting to amass camping gear, haven't been in years so my gears all missing or broken now heh.

http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/index.php for all your AusJeeping needs, they do regular SEQ runs you could tag along with. Range from beginer to hard to WTF thats Crazy. Careful though, some of them love the mud.

Ahh yep, I signed up there the other week. They're a pretty helpful bunch. Actually I think I'm going to buy an ARB winch bar off one of the guys from there. $800 second hand v $1500 new heh and it's air bag approved.

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nah I said that if you start going too far over 2-3" with IFS you simply rob yourself of downward travel cos you're just closing the distance between the control arm and the bumpstop. you'll find that out when you fit it though, don't take my word for it :)

unless you put in a drop system, which then opens you to another whole ball of gay that needs addressing

ah yes, go buy this months 4x4 Action magazine and watch the dvd, theres a guy with an insane jeep that he's replaced the transfer case amongst other things

I've got a hilux, unfortunately it has independent front suspension but .. I'm moving on with my life..
I can get about 3" lift out of it by dropping the front diff down to compensate for the cv angle increase with lift

I've now got bilsteins front & rear and basically what I'm trying to do is fit 33x11" or 33x12" tyres under it, giving me a total of 4-5" more clearance under my front diff
lifting suspension on IFS vehicles does lift the diff, which is about the only benefit of IFS

I took my side steps off on sunday and im going to build some rock sliders out of mild steel pipe soon, in an effort to save my sils from being KO'd
my old man is also helping me to fabricate a tow bar & rear step (w/ spare wheel carrier off a stub axle for longer trips)


+Jims response

yeah I know Jim, it'll still be better than the standard setup off road though
I've got 4" adjustable bilsteins which I only intend to run at 3" and a 1" drop diff kit

I could have spent the same money and done the drop bracket setup but then you have 0 suspension benefit, just extra height above your tyres .. which yes, is gay

worst case I can get some new control arms from the US which were designed to fix the IFS down travel problem, but I'll see how I go after this weekend
I'm more interested in getting the big tyres on first

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yeh I'm gonna get rock sliders one day to protect my sills

yeh I'm not trying to say anything against putting a lift in, just clarifying the can't-go-over-2" thing

a 2-3" lift is great

There are a bunch of 4WD parks around brisbane:

Springs - Quite rocky with tracks ranging from moderate to Vehicle write off.

Levuka - Mostly Mud with hill climbs through dense forest.

City View - Fairly Rocky caters from soft to extreme.

Janowen - Mainly black soil open easy to moderate tracks with the occasional rocky hill climb.

To name a few.

Sundown National park is also quite nice for a weekend camp/drive but is fairly tame.

We went to Janowen on the weekend which is up on the cunningham range and had a blast destroying a 60 series. Unfortunately it didn't break.

Make sure you always go with atleast one other car incase you get bogged or run into trouble and if something looks tough, walk it first and use a spotter. Try and do some rust proofing before driving on the beach as it'll kill most cars before engine/mechanical failure especially around the windscreen, guards, roof channels and drain holes underneath your car. If you're literally wanting to get your feet wet, extend your diff breathers and don't submerge your car past the air intake.

Also get RACQ ultra-care, if you can get your vehicle to the road and say "what ever failed" happened on the road they'll tow you home for free. Can save you many hassles.



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City View isn't really there any more is it? Scenic Rim took over (Not the same guy from City View even though 1/2 of Scenic rim includes old City View areas)
Rover Park is another good one, but 3hrs drive from Brisbane.
LCMP is good too, but again further drive.

Except maybe Scenic Rim most of those places are best for the weekend (or even long weekend) where as Ormeau/Glasshouse you can still get quite a bit in even if you only go for the day.

We're heading down to Levuka in October but i'm not going to have my Jeep back before then :/ I get to Nav it up for a change.

nah pedo-view is closed now I think
scott loves janowen

Yeah city view was shut down and re-opened under Scenic Rim Adventure Park. We've done Springs in a day leaving early Saturday doing all the tracks our vehicles were capable of doing. But yeah you can't go past Glass House Mountains and ormeau for day trips.

At levuka there's a water hole that has deep written on a sign in front, it isn't lying. It's pretty well bottomless.

landcruiser park

http://www.landcruisermountainpark.com.au/

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yeh i need to get out on a easy 4wd track with my suzuki grand vitara

just need to fit some AT's on it - any recommendations? Want something slightly larger than stock (235/60/16)...maybe a 235/65/16 or a 225/70/16?

bfg make an a/t in at least one of those sizes, good lookin tyre and plenty of ppl have a good run with them

if the offroad stuff is gonna be once in a blue moon, something a little less aggressive would prolly be better though:
http://www.coopertires.com.au/tyres/atr.htm

or my favourite brand mickeyt:
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/tyres/baja_radial_atz.htm

talk to ryan at fourbys whichever way you go

maxis 771 "bravo" or mickey thompson atz
I'd be using ATs too but I decided to just buy a new set of steel rims and put mud terrains on them for when I go away, leave my HTs on most of the time

http://unix.org.au/~brett/hilux/bilsteins/bilsteins.jpg

boo yah!

Yeah, if you don't go out all that often and dont mind spending some time changing tyres I really suggest a second set of Muddies on Steel rims.

My daily drivers are BFG Muddies and they make a bit of noise on the roads. But I have a very short drive to work, so it doesn't bother me much. I would definatly suggest any BFG or Mickey Thompson. If they are going to be a second set I might also suggest Federals ( http://www.federaltyres.com.au/suv ) but they have a fairly soft rubber, great for off road wheeling but they will wear quicker on the roads. Cheaper then BFG and MT's.

I'd go up 2in if it could fit in your wheel arch without fouling anything (254/65x16) but i'm not sure about what you can fit under the Suzie's. 2" might be a stretch on stock suspension.

235/75 apparently fouls on full lock so needs to be smaller than that. I thought about getting say a 1" lift via a coil spring spacer or something but not sure if i want to do that.

Jim: ta, but what is fourbys? these guys? http://www.fourbys.com.au/

yep

this is handy too when you're shoppin for tyres
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

heh yeah i know that calculator well from various tyre-related track-racing shenanigans with my s13. i even know what offset is, yes i'm serious.

handy, you might find you can get bigger tyres under it with a lower/higher offset, depending where it fouls
i had to get 0 offset steelies to run 33s

orbs you should get some 33" muddies

for the s13 amirite

yeh i need to get out on a easy 4wd track with my suzuki grand vitara

Well, if you're bored in a few weeks (I've got the front drive shaft out atm due to the fooked bit in the transfer case) and want to give it a go with a nub I'd be up for it.

don't forget TEQ, you can put in a DIFF drop kit for the front about $179, to fix up some of the CV angle if you have any issues.

I just went on a great trip last weekend with the local 4wd club, The new Hilux was well represented.

I was amazed at how much more clearance the guy had that just removed his running boards had than mine.

So they are next to come off, other than that the biggest complaint is the droppy front end, i dont find the rear to be such a great big issue atm.

Are you going to install the Lift kit yourself? or are you taking it to a mob to do?

Given your in queensland also dont forget this mob >> http://www.superiorengineering.com.au

up at burpengary, carry most the same kits that Caloffroad place does. and localy, so its not far to go pickup

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go up to Tewantin and jump on the barge for $6
head up to Teewah along the beach and go up the middle track to tin can bay road and then turn left, drive for roughly 5kms or so (i really cant remember) and turn left again, there's another track that takes you all the way back to Teewah beach

http://unix.org.au/~brett/hilux/teewah/may2009/resize/IMG_0732.jpg
http://unix.org.au/~brett/hilux/teewah/may2009/resize/IMG_0733.jpg
http://unix.org.au/~brett/hilux/teewah/may2009/resize/IMG_0734.jpg

real basic stuff but like i said but you'll have the option to tackle harder parts of the same track and its all one way, so theres no worrying about people coming back the way you're coming up
if you do get stuck theres usually someone else not too far away to help

I'm down for a trip if we want to organise a few fellow QGLrs


3x0dus yep I've got the drop diff kit here sitting next to the new suspension
I'm doing it myself this weekend, going to drive it for 500ks or so and then tighten it all up again, take it to get an alignment
I was shocked when I took my alloy steps off and I was amazed at how much higher it looked too, but in reality its still pretty average clearance underneath

I got an ARB winch bar recently and it comes with a really basic bash plate, driving through the middle track on moreton it was basically a sand plough
these new 4x4s come out with tyres that are just too small imo, 1" higher is all they really need to not look/drive so pansy off road

Given your in queensland also dont forget this mob >> http://www.superiorengineering.com.au

up at burpengary, carry most the same kits that Caloffroad place does. and localy, so its not far to go pickup

yep I actually went to see them cause I went to school with a guy who works there
they couldn't really tell me much about the kit and told me to call the guy who they buy them off, i ended up just buying it straight off him because it was less hassle

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don't worry
on the trip i went on the new triton and the new navara guys all spent some time bending there running boards back into shape.

Mine just got some scrapes so wasn't half bad.

Im pretty sure your a member over at newhilux.net forums i think its avenger 4x4, they have some decent underbody protection which looks nice, (like full underbody coming soon aswell).

Take plenty of pics if you have an offsider when doing the change over.

I really goyta get mine lifted before we go the way of NSW/VIC where it looks like its No Lift Period unless engineered.

Oh and dont forget to check your brake lines with the lift, on Full flex you might rip your break lines out on the rear.

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yep I take photos of everything, bad habbit of mine
I'm glad I live in QLD again heh - my lift and wheels are probably going to be illegal but if you dont draw attention to yourself you're generally ok

all im going to do with my rock sliders is get 12 bits of plate steel (6 per side) with 4 holes punched in each corner, bolt them to the chassis with high tensile bolts and then weld mild steel piping to the plates, out under the sils, weld another bit of mild steel on top of those and get some pipe bent to finish off either end
remove, sand blast, powder coat, wallah i've saved $500+ on ARB rock sliders

i bought an extended brake line with the suspension, i knew that would be a problem
its only the rear that causes problems but i might replace the fronts too just for the nice feeling of braided lines
http://unix.org.au/~brett/hilux/bilsteins/IMG_0822.JPG

shackles, leafs, shocks/springs and new bushes, drop diff kit and braided line
i have to remove my mudflaps front & rear, might need to manipulate the inner guard a bit too

should all be worth it, i'll post a pic on the weekend after its done

what are you driving exodus?

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07 Hilux SR V6
lol nice pic, IronBaby suspension =]

ah nice, how does the v6 go offroad and did you go auto or man?
I went turbo diesel w/ 5spd and i have no complaints, I could have had the auto for next to nothing but wasn't sure how good the auto box would go with serious business 4x4ing

thats Jack, he loves the hirux ;)

apparently the auto's arent tooo bad, they are crap on sand tho.

alot of people find it hard to tow anything without putting on a transmission cooler aswell.

I went the manual, Love the v6, fuel wise its not that thirsty its actualy pretty good 11-13l per 100km on highway(does slightly better fuel on 120km/hr then 100-105 go figure) around town about 14l/100 depending on how stop start.

Off road no complaints, it has heaps of power the max torque is the same as diesel, and pulls max torque around 2400/2600 rpm.

I believe the v6 has a slightly different gear ratio for first/second then the diesel, i can prety much sit in low 1st/2nd and idle around most stuff without applying any acceleration but just like the diesel if it needs it it has it on tap.

On the recent trip i got to have a look in the engine bay of the Triton, geeez you don't not wanna be the man having to pay when something goes wrong with it out of warranty, and as for space to put anything (dual battery compressor if wanted to upgrade lockers etc).

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yeah my old man just had a gearbox replaced in a 2.99 year old Triton under warranty, I'm surprised they are giving them 5/10 year warranties on powertrain

Next Event: QGL 4x4 Day

^^

that 5/10 year warranty is a crock of s***

the 10 year powertrain bit is only 30000km more than the 5 year warranty

somehow your powertrain is in it's own time bubble where it ages at half the time the rest of the car does...

Maxis Buckshots (mudders) aren't too bad, I've found them better than the BFG mudders but aren't as good as the MT Baja Claws but much cheaper.

Bigger tyres make a huge difference 4wding however be aware that driving with mudders on the beach sucks.

I'd also be interested in a 4x4 event.

what's wrong with muds on the beach out of interest, I've never had an issue

once you deflate them which you should regardless of the type, they're all much of a muchness. last fraser trip I was even too lazy to swap out the simex pedes, even those were fine :)

Jeep does fine on the beach with Muddies, but Luke really notices the difference in his Challanger between his Scorpians and BFG Muds.

I think that the Pootrol is just so fat and heavy it doesn't matter what you're driving on in the sand :p

heh maybe

the theory goes that the MTs dig into the sand and make it work harder
in theory HTs or even slicks would be the best thing on the beach

dare you to get 24" cromies for around town

haha i might as well
im going to have to do something about the stock tyres because they're going to look a bit dicky with a 3" lift

The main problem you get is when you're trying to get into and through cuttings, your MT's will try and dig thus slowing you down while your AT's/slicks will just spin on the top allowing you to keep your speed. They do help distribute the load seeing they are usually wider though.

I've tried driving up a heavily rutted beach cutting with both AT's and MT's, got up first time on the AT's and couldn't get through at all with the MT's.

Scooter, you missed the time I took down Luke on the beach in the Paj.

I climbed the hill with ease first time and it took Luke like 5 goes. It was hilarious. He blamed the tyres, naturally.

Heh, Where was I that time? Already at camp with a cold beer in hand?

I really dont notice the difference in the sand with the Jeep, but thats because it's as light as f*** and barely even indents into the sand. I also usually let my tyres down from the start and not just if I start having trouble.

so, when the fuk is the next QGL 4x4 day going to be again!?
I havent done the lift kit yet on the commander, so nothing too extreme for me. Just want to get te fuk out and do stuff.

a few weekends from now?

yeh that'd suit me
gonna be packing and moving house over the next couple of weekends

yeah this whole having kids thing has sucked a bit of time out of my weekends, need a bit of forward planning these days

where do we want to go?
I havent done much 4x4ing around SE-QLD other than along the coastal areas

are yours SR or SR5 rims teq?

stock tyres on SR5 rims, I'm putting the muddies on basic steel rims

http://hilux.org.au/wiki/index.php/Brett/SR5


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ormeau

im down for that, is it more rocky or muddy?

rocky

ima try and get these rock sliders fabricated before we go then
i like my sils

Jim likes his seals, loves the way they sound when scraping over rocks and pretty much orgasms when he can feel the crunching coming up through his seat.

my sills are specially shaped for passing over bumps without making as much contact as they used to

Haha your sils ROCK Jim, I love that s***!

This trip might be worth me getting a roadie and paying my $1000 rego :|

yow :(

Awww, I looked under the Jeep and there's no skid pans at all. Guess I better add that to the list.

Your Beemer is a V8 too isn't Jim?

nah 3 litre 6
changing it over for a V8 early next year tho :D

is it a hippie diesel v8

nah it's a 4.4 litre 408kw petrol
awwyeah

ah the new X5 M?
you probably can't get a lift kit for that, get the 200 series Sahara imo

X6 M yeh
sahara, teehee

but the x6 is so ugleh :(

that motor is sweet though.

I'd rather that motor in a land rover disco.

nah it's a 4.4 litre 408kw petrol

Really? Do they feel like they have that much power? All the ones I've TAKEN OF AT LEGAL SPEED NEXT TO FROM A SET OF LIGHTS have gone quite slow. If so, I'm impressed, Euro SUV's are starting to get some balls. What kind of gear do they have underneath? AWD or 4x4?

my 2.8l patrol sometimes is hard to get off the mark... died going up a hill the other day. would clogged injectors be the cause of this? air filter & fuel filter are fine...

Really? Do they feel like they have that much power? All the ones I've TAKEN OF AT LEGAL SPEED NEXT TO FROM A SET OF LIGHTS have gone quite slow.

there aren't any on the country yet, but their 0-100 time is 4.7 seconds which is reasonable given they are a fat 2300kg

you might've dragged a regular X6 V8? which is 300kw, 0-100 in 5.4
or an X5 V8 with the older 4.8 litre, 6.4 seconds 0-100 or something

most of the ones you'll see getting around will be the older 3 litre diesel though, closer to 8 or 9 seconds 0-100 :)

they're awd

would clogged injectors be the cause of this?

could be, or could be the pump

Jim is reliving his childhood days as a street racer

I'll race your X5 up a sand dune for slips, y0

after 150,000 kms, would the injectors likely to be clogged? injector clean with shellite recommended?

take it to a diesel mechanic would be my recommendation, they'd know the common problems with the 2.8 motor

nah it's a 4.4 litre 408kw petrol
awwyeah

that is some serious mumbo, jimbo

its on tap for when the kids REALLY need to get home from soccer practice in a hurry

and holden need 7 litres to make 3/4 of that power

lolz

yeh, although in all fairness bmw are using twin cheaty turbos to get that
torque curve is pretty sweet too, 680nm from 1500rpm thru to 6500

oh twin turbo v8 petrol?

f*** me

yeh this is it here http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/x6m/2009/allfacts/engine/m_twinpower_turbo.html?prm_action=x6

you gonna get a fuel card to go with that thing? :/ combined consumption of 13.9L eh? I doubt that's very real world :P

that beast is gonna own the road (at least around the schools anyway).

nope, but I'm moving out of the mulga to indro just 1 or 2 k's from work so that'll chop roughly 80k's a day off my driving :)

don't drive a kilometre to work you mong, walk! :P

what is this 'walk' you speak of

ah, i see how you can afford such a nice car, by moving to west side slums!

yeh it's come to that :(

f*** if indro is a slum, what the f*** is salisbury

a wasteland?

salisbury is like a country town, just its outer inner city

I'd still go the 200 series but hey, I don't have any kids that need to get to soccer yet :p

a 200 series will still be good for soccermum by the time your kids need it :D

hopefully his kids won't be playing horrible soccer

yeah no

Man, why do cars hate 4x4's so much? I swear no one lets me in in the Jeep but they do in the Soarer.

You shouldn't need people to 'let you in' while your in the Jeep.
You're in the Jeep, you Let them not be run over.

^ exactly.

Woah Jim I bet your dripping into your seat just thinking about that twin turbo V8, I kno I am!
Sif Indro is the slums, its hella expensive there, because it's a great place to live.

We bought a house in Karalee, wanted something with space without the million dollar price tag.
Kept looking till we found one that made me smile.

I am petey I am
if we were in the same room, we would be dripping together

We'll be passing your house a few times tomorrow Fn.
If you're keen head down to the boat ramp (on Park road) like 2min from your place. Walk ~50m past the carpark and we'll be there Skiing.

Or just stand in your back yard and wave :p

We should like totally webcam Jim

oohhhh now you tell me, I was away all weekend in Midgee(sp?) no mobile coverage WTF, on an organised dirtbike ride! 130 kms both sat and sun. Was awesome, somehow I did an upside down starfish and DIDN'T fall off :O Totally didn't mean too but my ktm tried to kick me off, but I man handled that s*** back into line. Imagine doing a handstand, holding onto the handle bars at 90kmh. SCARY!
I left friday, got back late sunday so I didn't your post :(

Let me know next time you all should pop around for tea and cookies :)

can you make it tea and scones, cookies upset my stomach

http://unix.org.au/~brett/hilux/liftkit/jackedup19.jpg

Just for you, Jim

<3

just came back from landcruiser park. f***ing wee

edit:
although they do need to update their map. top left corner of the map, there should be a f***ing red zigzag.. we almost f***ed ourself real bad

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I must get up there one day, how long did you stay for?

680nm from 1500rpm

phwoar
that thing would get out of the hole pretty well

yes. many potholes in soccer field carparks

went up friday, came back sunday. cost $105 (f***ing insurance and s***), and used about 60 of fuel bris>lcp>4wding>back to bris.

what am I lookin at teq? the sharp downward angle on your wishbone? :)

although they do need to update their map. top left corner of the map, there should be a f***ing red zigzag.. we almost f***ed ourself real bad

there is isn't there? cruiser climb or the top test track?

the top test track is nothing but a flat track. the yellow zig zag that went up, was so eroded, and also went down. either that or it doesn't exist anymore...

that just gives me more up travel :p

crankin

I haven't been out there for about 12 months vbcoder
must be one hell of a dustbowl atm with this dry spell

yeah really dry up there. had to travel about 20m behind the car in front for the dust to die down.

fireban as well (it didn't stop people, which is fine with me providing it's small).

Well, my "I'll just buy a cheap 4x4 that needs a bit of work it'll be cheaper" thing isn't working out too well haha..

Got a set of lifted Old Man Emu springs and long travel shocks. (A mate runs a tyre shop, got to do the lift with decent tools, a hoist and an air gun, made it so much easier and scored a free wheel alignment too)

Got a new transfer case that lets me run 2hi 4 full time 4 part time and 4lo (a bit in mine was stuffed, was cheaper to upgrade then replace the bit)

Just ordered 4 new trailing arms. (After the lift I started getting death wobbles, all the bushes in the trailing arms are rooted, hoping this'll help out)

Replaced 2 CV boots.

Replaced a front wheel hub assembly.

Had Aircon regassed.

Replaced two tyres.

Upgraded the stereo.

Replaced the handbrake shoes (has 4 wheel discs but handbrake is on a separate drum thing, they where fubar)

Replaced the air struts for the tailgate.

Still gotta replace all the sway bar bushes, find a nice front and rear bar, fit the UHF, buy a set of offroad wheels and tyres, get a winch and probably some skid pans.

It's sitting a bit higher now though (The full after photo makes it look lower then it is I reckon)

Before:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs258.snc1/10521_130307120447_726330447_2948701_8001963_n.jpg

After:
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs117.snc3/16459_175169895447_726330447_3365123_6101542_n.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs097.snc3/16459_175162260447_726330447_3364891_1056972_n.jpg


last edited by Syco at 21:33:55 12/Nov/09

needs rubber

nice one